I know. There are plenty of examples. It’s actually funny.
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I know. There are plenty of examples. It’s actually funny.
It all depends of course. If it's a high crime area I would cross the road whether they were black or white. Would I care how they felt? Not in the least, since I'm looking out for numero uno in that area.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:46 amI'm with you 100% on taking care to avoid an "incident". We don't walk down a darkened alley by ourselves...tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:30 amI worked in NYC for 2 decades, the 80s and 90s, catching the dubious end of the Koch admin and then the Dinkins mess. I traveled on foot and subways at all hours of the day, in good and bad areas, and I wasn't packing like Bernard Getz. Looking back, I was probably quite lucky not to have had any incidents. Would I cross the street or change train cars if I felt there was a chance of something happening? You bet, unless there was a cop or two (or back then, even a Guardian Angel) visibly in area, which was rare. Am I racist because of that? No F'ing way. That's called self preservation and has nothing to do with the color of anyone's skin.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:54 am On a black person calling the police, you are again misunderstanding the challenge for black men and boys. It's not that the caller is racist, it's that they are more likely to perceive danger when the man or boy is black. This is true throughout the society, in all our messaging, and we see black police at times with these same reactions. And it doesn't matter whether the black boy or man is where they should be, dressed appropriate to their environment, driving a nice car...etc. A black person is less likely to have these perceptions of danger, but it's not a guarantee.
This doesn't make a you a "racist" and no one suggested otherwise.
Now if you're walking down a main Ave and see a group of kids walking toward you, bouncing a basketball, do you notice their skin color? Does it make a difference to your sense of concern? do you cross the street if they're black but not if they're white?
Do those boys notice your reaction on their way to basketball courts behind the church?
… in my case it afforded me the opportunity at a young age to see the evil of segregation and the legacy of slavery in rural Virginia. At the same time it afforded me the opportunity to understand what it was not and the massive hypocrisy on all sides of the subject. A truly peculiar institution.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:38 amI, too, have a bunch of Confederacy and sympathizers and then Jim Crow in my family tree. Even a top cat in the KKK. I don't know how many owned slaves, but certainly some, both the New Orleans side on my mother's dad's tree and my father's southern Maryland and Virginia roots.
Can't say I'm proud of any of that lineage, but we make our own choices today and are responsible for them, not the choices of our ancestors. My ancestors' choices don't make me feel guilty, but certainly it was part of my upbringing to become conscious of this background, the reality of it. To my mind, there's actually an advantage in having such a background to confront. One can't just pretend it away...
On the other hand, some folks choose to pine for the Lost Cause and proudly fly the Confederate flag, heck some twisted souls get a swastika tattoo too.
And some just call others 'woke' as a pejorative, for actually caring about having our society make more progress on race and equity.
all choices.
The school in question has been closed to the public for several months. I don't know how suspicious is suppose to be defined in this situation. Myself, I could not have cared less about who the yutes were or why they were hanging out in the car in front of the school. For whatever reason the person at the school called the police. If you see something, say something. The person at the school could have easily went up to the yutes car and ask them if he/she could help them out. Since they were there with gym bags a logical conclusion would have been that were there for some sort of athletic activity. I get the confusion. In this instance, for some god foresaken reason the cops that showed up are the bad guys and the 2 yutes were in fear for their lives. The simple solution for everybody... just don't call the cops about anything... problem solved and nobody has to be afraid.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:33 amThis happens to often...MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:24 am Keep closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears guys.
It's a heck of way to keep from learning anything.
6x6, let's indeed hope that the police were great with the boys...but nevertheless, would this really have even happened if they were white?
Standing outside a gym with gym bags?
Caller: I saw two black guys with bags standing outside a school. It didn’t look right.
Dispatcher: “Did they have weapons?”
Caller: “I am not sure, they looked suspicious”
Dispatcher: “thanks”
5 minutes later, someone is dead.
I would like to know how many times the police have been called to Walt Whitman HS because two kids were waiting outside with gym bags.
This is a conversation for you southern boys to have. My family was Yankee clear to the bone and we kicked your rebel arses all the way to Appomattox Court House.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:59 am… in my case it afforded me the opportunity at a young age to see the evil of segregation and the legacy of slavery in rural Virginia. At the same time it afforded me the opportunity to understand what it was not and the massive hypocrisy on all sides of the subject. A truly peculiar institution.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:38 amI, too, have a bunch of Confederacy and sympathizers and then Jim Crow in my family tree. Even a top cat in the KKK. I don't know how many owned slaves, but certainly some, both the New Orleans side on my mother's dad's tree and my father's southern Maryland and Virginia roots.
Can't say I'm proud of any of that lineage, but we make our own choices today and are responsible for them, not the choices of our ancestors. My ancestors' choices don't make me feel guilty, but certainly it was part of my upbringing to become conscious of this background, the reality of it. To my mind, there's actually an advantage in having such a background to confront. One can't just pretend it away...
On the other hand, some folks choose to pine for the Lost Cause and proudly fly the Confederate flag, heck some twisted souls get a swastika tattoo too.
And some just call others 'woke' as a pejorative, for actually caring about having our society make more progress on race and equity.
all choices.
Okcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:04 pmThe school in question has been closed to the public for several months. I don't know how suspicious is suppose to be defined in this situation. Myself, I could not have cared less about who the yutes were or why they were hanging out in the car in front of the school. For whatever reason the person at the school called the police. If you see something, say something. The person at the school could have easily went up to the yutes car and ask them if he/she could help them out. Since they were there with gym bags a logical conclusion would have been that were there for some sort of athletic activity. I get the confusion. In this instance, for some god foresaken reason the cops that showed up are the bad guys and the 2 yutes were in fear for their lives. The simple solution for everybody... just don't call the cops about anything... problem solved and nobody has to be afraid.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:33 amThis happens to often...MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:24 am Keep closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears guys.
It's a heck of way to keep from learning anything.
6x6, let's indeed hope that the police were great with the boys...but nevertheless, would this really have even happened if they were white?
Standing outside a gym with gym bags?
Caller: I saw two black guys with bags standing outside a school. It didn’t look right.
Dispatcher: “Did they have weapons?”
Caller: “I am not sure, they looked suspicious”
Dispatcher: “thanks”
5 minutes later, someone is dead.
I would like to know how many times the police have been called to Walt Whitman HS because two kids were waiting outside with gym bags.
It went well because there was civility and discipline between the two side....the way it works 99 percent of the time. Good thing there was not a bomb in the gym bag...b/c you know the school could have been named something unpopular.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:04 pmThe school in question has been closed to the public for several months. I don't know how suspicious is suppose to be defined in this situation. Myself, I could not have cared less about who the yutes were or why they were hanging out in the car in front of the school. For whatever reason the person at the school called the police. If you see something, say something. The person at the school could have easily went up to the yutes car and ask them if he/she could help them out. Since they were there with gym bags a logical conclusion would have been that were there for some sort of athletic activity. I get the confusion. In this instance, for some god foresaken reason the cops that showed up are the bad guys and the 2 yutes were in fear for their lives. The simple solution for everybody... just don't call the cops about anything... problem solved and nobody has to be afraid.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:33 amThis happens to often...MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:24 am Keep closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears guys.
It's a heck of way to keep from learning anything.
6x6, let's indeed hope that the police were great with the boys...but nevertheless, would this really have even happened if they were white?
Standing outside a gym with gym bags?
Caller: I saw two black guys with bags standing outside a school. It didn’t look right.
Dispatcher: “Did they have weapons?”
Caller: “I am not sure, they looked suspicious”
Dispatcher: “thanks”
5 minutes later, someone is dead.
I would like to know how many times the police have been called to Walt Whitman HS because two kids were waiting outside with gym bags.
"tiny deniability"???6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:42 amI see what you did there. Called me a redneck Nazi with some tiny deniability.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:38 amI, too, have a bunch of Confederacy and sympathizers and then Jim Crow in my family tree. Even a top cat in the KKK. I don't know how many owned slaves, but certainly some, both the New Orleans side on my mother's dad's tree and my father's southern Maryland and Virginia roots.
Can't say I'm proud of any of that lineage, but we make our own choices today and are responsible for them, not the choices of our ancestors. My ancestors' choices don't make me feel guilty, but certainly it was part of my upbringing to become conscious of this background, the reality of it. To my mind, there's actually an advantage in having such a background to confront. One can't just pretend it away...
On the other hand, some folks choose to pine for the Lost Cause and proudly fly the Confederate flag, heck some twisted souls get a swastika tattoo too.
And some just call others 'woke' as a pejorative, for actually caring about having our society make more progress on race and equity.
all choices.
This entire scenario should have been NBD no harm no foul on anybody. Then one social media post and our local fishwrapper gets involved and suddenly a huge issue materializes out of nothing. If I believe our local FLP fishwrapper this young man and his friend are now traumatized for life. I hope the young man never gets pulled over for speeding. I wonder what kind of basket case he will be then?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:12 pmIt went well because there was civility and discipline between the two side....the way it works 99 percent of the time. Good thing there was not a bomb in the gym bag...b/c you know the school could have been named something unpopular.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:04 pmThe school in question has been closed to the public for several months. I don't know how suspicious is suppose to be defined in this situation. Myself, I could not have cared less about who the yutes were or why they were hanging out in the car in front of the school. For whatever reason the person at the school called the police. If you see something, say something. The person at the school could have easily went up to the yutes car and ask them if he/she could help them out. Since they were there with gym bags a logical conclusion would have been that were there for some sort of athletic activity. I get the confusion. In this instance, for some god foresaken reason the cops that showed up are the bad guys and the 2 yutes were in fear for their lives. The simple solution for everybody... just don't call the cops about anything... problem solved and nobody has to be afraid.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:33 amThis happens to often...MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:24 am Keep closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears guys.
It's a heck of way to keep from learning anything.
6x6, let's indeed hope that the police were great with the boys...but nevertheless, would this really have even happened if they were white?
Standing outside a gym with gym bags?
Caller: I saw two black guys with bags standing outside a school. It didn’t look right.
Dispatcher: “Did they have weapons?”
Caller: “I am not sure, they looked suspicious”
Dispatcher: “thanks”
5 minutes later, someone is dead.
I would like to know how many times the police have been called to Walt Whitman HS because two kids were waiting outside with gym bags.
What do you think the point is?
my opinion but if we don't see each other as equal, we can really never reach the goal of being equal.Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:36 amThere are a lot of black racists out there. The press and people like to act as if it is just a white thing.6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:25 amTake a number a get in line.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:24 am Keep closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears guys.
It's a heck of way to keep from learning anything.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6753362/b ... rre-stunt/
So then they call you Bunny?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:06 amThe Wire, thus why I called it a "Hamsterdam."Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:55 amDid you think that up, or did you watch season 4 of The Wire?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:39 am Was thinking how to solve some issues. How about we start creating "Hamsterdam's" and CHOPs in abandoned city blocks in cities like Detroit Philly/Baltimore?
May be worth the effort - Give landowners the option to sell to the the city under emminent domain and the City can then takes the property off the areas in need of police patrol. Give the police/drug addicts/criminals all a breather?
Move all criminal activity to one cordoned off area, and civilians can avoid if they don't want to be subject to lawlessness.
The caveat is adding barriers to entry- a registation process to ensure participants know what they are entering and that they waive the city of liability.
Thoughts?
With modifications...
Tell me that cop lost his job.
He is just doing his job....what if that guy had turned out to be a gang banger or dope dealer.....it happens in Bryn Mawr, PA all the time.....why is this dude complaining.....the video is hilarious. He’s supposed to submit. Out walking his dog and in the front yard with his two kids....decent neighborhood....
Because I practice the maieutic method, which is why I first asked. But in typical fashion....you often take issue when asked a direct question, not sure why that is.
No sign that he did. Name Garrett Lindley, and he also shot a woman in 2016. Lawsuit was filed last summer against him by the black man in the video. I cannot find any indication that it was settled, or that there is a verdict yet.
Gotta make that budget!