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Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:37 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:52 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:10 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

It’s silly. I didn agree with Obama’s broad generalization that everything rich folks and was bc of govt, it s bs comment suggesting their would
Be no govt in an alternative which isn’t realistic enough to set up that sort of idea.

It was used out of context to paint him a particular way. It’s like Republicans suggesting that Hillary Clinton was calling all supporters of Donald Trump deplorables. She was talking about a particular subset of supporters which is in fact true.

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/you-d ... -unedited/

I basically said the same thing Obama said years ago. The United States Government helps set the stage for people to be successful. If people don’t believe it, go try to do it in Cuba, Russia, Argentina, Chile or any number of places where there isn’t robust government participation in private enterprise. Hell look at the SBA and what their programs have done for people.

We started our ENTIRE 25 year operation with a small SBA loan that we paid in full years ago.

SBA loans? If folks didn't know? The program turns a profit for the .gov. because they charge fees. Not a big profit.....but it's an ENORMOUS economic engine for America.

There are SO many .gov programs that cost the US taxpayer a rounding error that generate massive ROI. Instead of stepping on that accelerator, we pull back. Idiotic.

Years ago I used an SBA loan as part of a financing to help a son buy a business from his father. He told me for years how that financing changed his life as well as his children’s. It wasn’t a major buyout but it has some leverage on it and the SBA helped. Also used a USDA guarantee to help start up a co-op grocery store in an inner city location as part of a mixed use development project. Why someone would be upset about saying the government helped set the stage for a lot of personal success is beyond me. It’s one of the great things about the USA.

Don't get it either. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if small government worked? Third world countries with small ineffective governments would be killing it economically, and all these socialist-capitalist nations (UK, EU, US, Japan) would be waaaaaay behind them economically.

Instead? We're the shining beacons of the world. Must be a coincidence.

Also must be a coincidence that because we don't have universal healthcare that we spend twice what the UK spends on health care (% of GDP), yet America's poor's life expectancy is dropping like a stone. The private market isn't working. I wish it was, but it ain't.

The sooner that Republicans read Old Salt's post, aggressively telling me that aviation in America doesn't work without government training...and apply that idea to health care? The sooner we'll have an economic boom because businesses like mine are no longer on the hook for paying for very expensive, yet very sh*tty health care.

Think about what that would do. Ask a working class American what would happen if their health care was taken care of, no hassle.

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:53 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:37 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:52 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:10 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

It’s silly. I didn agree with Obama’s broad generalization that everything rich folks and was bc of govt, it s bs comment suggesting their would
Be no govt in an alternative which isn’t realistic enough to set up that sort of idea.

It was used out of context to paint him a particular way. It’s like Republicans suggesting that Hillary Clinton was calling all supporters of Donald Trump deplorables. She was talking about a particular subset of supporters which is in fact true.

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/you-d ... -unedited/

I basically said the same thing Obama said years ago. The United States Government helps set the stage for people to be successful. If people don’t believe it, go try to do it in Cuba, Russia, Argentina, Chile or any number of places where there isn’t robust government participation in private enterprise. Hell look at the SBA and what their programs have done for people.

We started our ENTIRE 25 year operation with a small SBA loan that we paid in full years ago.

SBA loans? If folks didn't know? The program turns a profit for the .gov. because they charge fees. Not a big profit.....but it's an ENORMOUS economic engine for America.

There are SO many .gov programs that cost the US taxpayer a rounding error that generate massive ROI. Instead of stepping on that accelerator, we pull back. Idiotic.

Years ago I used an SBA loan as part of a financing to help a son buy a business from his father. He told me for years how that financing changed his life as well as his children’s. It wasn’t a major buyout but it has some leverage on it and the SBA helped. Also used a USDA guarantee to help start up a co-op grocery store in an inner city location as part of a mixed use development project. Why someone would be upset about saying the government helped set the stage for a lot of personal success is beyond me. It’s one of the great things about the USA.

Don't get it either. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if small government worked? Third world countries with small ineffective governments would be killing it economically, and all these socialist-capitalist nations (UK, EU, US, Japan) would be waaaaaay behind them economically.

Instead? We're the shining beacons of the world. Must be a coincidence.

Also must be a coincidence that because we don't have universal healthcare that we spend twice what the UK spends on health care (% of GDP), yet America's poor's life expectancy is dropping like a stone. The private market isn't working. I wish it was, but it ain't.

The sooner that Republicans read Old Salt's post, aggressively telling me that aviation in America doesn't work without government training...and apply that idea to health care? The sooner we'll have an economic boom because businesses like mine are no longer on the hook for paying for very expensive, yet very sh*tty health care.

Think about what that would do. Ask a working class American what would happen if their health care was taken care of, no hassle.

The cost for just blood work is $770.00. How a person survives without good insurance is beyond me.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:56 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:53 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:37 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:52 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:10 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

It’s silly. I didn agree with Obama’s broad generalization that everything rich folks and was bc of govt, it s bs comment suggesting their would
Be no govt in an alternative which isn’t realistic enough to set up that sort of idea.

It was used out of context to paint him a particular way. It’s like Republicans suggesting that Hillary Clinton was calling all supporters of Donald Trump deplorables. She was talking about a particular subset of supporters which is in fact true.

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/you-d ... -unedited/

I basically said the same thing Obama said years ago. The United States Government helps set the stage for people to be successful. If people don’t believe it, go try to do it in Cuba, Russia, Argentina, Chile or any number of places where there isn’t robust government participation in private enterprise. Hell look at the SBA and what their programs have done for people.

We started our ENTIRE 25 year operation with a small SBA loan that we paid in full years ago.

SBA loans? If folks didn't know? The program turns a profit for the .gov. because they charge fees. Not a big profit.....but it's an ENORMOUS economic engine for America.

There are SO many .gov programs that cost the US taxpayer a rounding error that generate massive ROI. Instead of stepping on that accelerator, we pull back. Idiotic.

Years ago I used an SBA loan as part of a financing to help a son buy a business from his father. He told me for years how that financing changed his life as well as his children’s. It wasn’t a major buyout but it has some leverage on it and the SBA helped. Also used a USDA guarantee to help start up a co-op grocery store in an inner city location as part of a mixed use development project. Why someone would be upset about saying the government helped set the stage for a lot of personal success is beyond me. It’s one of the great things about the USA.

Don't get it either. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if small government worked? Third world countries with small ineffective governments would be killing it economically, and all these socialist-capitalist nations (UK, EU, US, Japan) would be waaaaaay behind them economically.

Instead? We're the shining beacons of the world. Must be a coincidence.

Also must be a coincidence that because we don't have universal healthcare that we spend twice what the UK spends on health care (% of GDP), yet America's poor's life expectancy is dropping like a stone. The private market isn't working. I wish it was, but it ain't.

The sooner that Republicans read Old Salt's post, aggressively telling me that aviation in America doesn't work without government training...and apply that idea to health care? The sooner we'll have an economic boom because businesses like mine are no longer on the hook for paying for very expensive, yet very sh*tty health care.

Think about what that would do. Ask a working class American what would happen if their health care was taken care of, no hassle.

The cost for just blood work is $770.00. How a person survives without good insurance is beyond me.

They don't. They literally don't. Which is why Americans are dying in this asinine system of ours.

Meanwhile, my family gets great care. Had a Canadian journalist in last week to interview me. He said "I can't wrap my head around the fact that Americans think it's acceptable that the poor and working class don't have access to medical care."

Amen.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:45 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:42 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:06 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:31 am Okay boys and girls now that the Republican and Democrat circuses have left town time to get down to business. Kamala Harris is trying to do something very interesting. She has almost overnight attempted to morph into a conservative Republican. She wants to shut down the southern border like the iron curtain shut down Germany. She has had an epiphany and now is advocating for a smaller government and doesn't want the government telling Americans what to do. So the government will no longer be telling me what kind of car to drive, what kind of stove I can use, what kind of furnace I can use to heat my home, what kind of dryer I can use to dry our laundry and so on and so forth. Do I believe any of this ...heck no I don't. An avowed extreme left wing progressive will never allow smaller government ever.

Let's move on over to team trump. There is nothing new over on the right wing side. trump isn't trying to campaign on any issues as of yet. He is more concerned about how the Dems are cheating him. Who ever is in charge of running his campaign must be totally frustrated. The horses are off and the race has started. Time for team trump to start hammering the opponent on her many weaknesses. I suspect her complete failure at the southern border is her Achilles heal. The opponent has an embarrassing record as DA of San Francisco and AG of California that has the majority of law enforcement leadership in California ready to throw her under the bus.

Where are you getting the notion that “the majority of law enforcement leadership in California “ dislike Harris?

Did she have a successful record of prosecution of violent crime? Sex offenders? Cartels?
Did she have success as AG against big banks? Education scammers?

What’s the beef?

I agree that Dems are likely to continue to regulate. But let us know when you actually get told you can’t buy a gas powered car. For real and not by your Chinese news feed.

But you are right that the Dems have adopted a lot of the language and policies of libertarianism. That used to be aligned with Republicans but MAGA has blown that up. Wide open lane for Harris.

I got that idea by reading interviews from law enforcement folks in California who disagreed with her policies as DA and AG. There is one sheriff who was upset that he was used in a Harris campaign ad without his knowledge. All you have to do is a quick Google search. You can draw your own conclusions just as I did.

There was animosity towards Harris for refusing to put the death penalty on the table when a San Francisco police officer was assassinated. You may disagree but I don't think Kamala Harris will by and large receive much rousing support from law enforcement in California. If the Republicans are not as stupid as I think they are there will be law enforcement people from California popping up in ads that will not be very flattering towards the Kamala Harris record as both DA and AG.

"Boudreaux, who recently ran for Congress and lost in a special election, ran a campaign ad featuring former President Donald Trump supporting law enforcement"

yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of MAGA in law enforcement, whether in CA or elsewhere...but that's not remotely "a majority of law enforcement". though I'd think it's like most of the country a 45:45 sort of thing. But one would actually expect in normal times for the GOP candidate to have a 60:40 advantage in law enforcement, maybe even higher...but times are a changing...the majority of law enforcement are in favor of common sense gun regs, and assault weapons ban, and tough penalties for gun trafficking. And the Dems are on that side now. And she actually does have a significant record in prosecuting bad guys and companies successfully.

Harris just went further on the border matter than Biden saying that despite the MAGA/Trump fecklessness, if the Dems get control, she'll call for the conservative Lankford border bill to be brought back up and passed and she'll sign it...Biden hasn't made that pledge and Dems generally want to get some additional concessions...but that's an important and specific pledge that actually is supported by big majorities of border agents. I think she understands the politics of this and will follow through.

We will find out what the Republican strategy will be in the coming weeks. You don't believe Harris is vulnerable for her and her bosses failure at the southern border. After 3 and 1/2 years of doing nothing all of a sudden come election season now they want to do something. I think the Republican machine will hammer Harris mercilessly over the Biden administration failure. The fact the Democrat machine is feverishly putting their spin on it tells you what you need to know. I believe Harris is incredibly vulnerable on the issue at the southern border. IMO you pick your opponents weakness and you keep poking and jabbing at it. The Republicans strategy has to be directed at convincing those independent voters that Harris is incapable of dealing with the southern border.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:09 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:45 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:42 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:06 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:31 am Okay boys and girls now that the Republican and Democrat circuses have left town time to get down to business. Kamala Harris is trying to do something very interesting. She has almost overnight attempted to morph into a conservative Republican. She wants to shut down the southern border like the iron curtain shut down Germany. She has had an epiphany and now is advocating for a smaller government and doesn't want the government telling Americans what to do. So the government will no longer be telling me what kind of car to drive, what kind of stove I can use, what kind of furnace I can use to heat my home, what kind of dryer I can use to dry our laundry and so on and so forth. Do I believe any of this ...heck no I don't. An avowed extreme left wing progressive will never allow smaller government ever.

Let's move on over to team trump. There is nothing new over on the right wing side. trump isn't trying to campaign on any issues as of yet. He is more concerned about how the Dems are cheating him. Who ever is in charge of running his campaign must be totally frustrated. The horses are off and the race has started. Time for team trump to start hammering the opponent on her many weaknesses. I suspect her complete failure at the southern border is her Achilles heal. The opponent has an embarrassing record as DA of San Francisco and AG of California that has the majority of law enforcement leadership in California ready to throw her under the bus.

Where are you getting the notion that “the majority of law enforcement leadership in California “ dislike Harris?

Did she have a successful record of prosecution of violent crime? Sex offenders? Cartels?
Did she have success as AG against big banks? Education scammers?

What’s the beef?

I agree that Dems are likely to continue to regulate. But let us know when you actually get told you can’t buy a gas powered car. For real and not by your Chinese news feed.

But you are right that the Dems have adopted a lot of the language and policies of libertarianism. That used to be aligned with Republicans but MAGA has blown that up. Wide open lane for Harris.

I got that idea by reading interviews from law enforcement folks in California who disagreed with her policies as DA and AG. There is one sheriff who was upset that he was used in a Harris campaign ad without his knowledge. All you have to do is a quick Google search. You can draw your own conclusions just as I did.

There was animosity towards Harris for refusing to put the death penalty on the table when a San Francisco police officer was assassinated. You may disagree but I don't think Kamala Harris will by and large receive much rousing support from law enforcement in California. If the Republicans are not as stupid as I think they are there will be law enforcement people from California popping up in ads that will not be very flattering towards the Kamala Harris record as both DA and AG.

"Boudreaux, who recently ran for Congress and lost in a special election, ran a campaign ad featuring former President Donald Trump supporting law enforcement"

yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of MAGA in law enforcement, whether in CA or elsewhere...but that's not remotely "a majority of law enforcement". though I'd think it's like most of the country a 45:45 sort of thing. But one would actually expect in normal times for the GOP candidate to have a 60:40 advantage in law enforcement, maybe even higher...but times are a changing...the majority of law enforcement are in favor of common sense gun regs, and assault weapons ban, and tough penalties for gun trafficking. And the Dems are on that side now. And she actually does have a significant record in prosecuting bad guys and companies successfully.

Harris just went further on the border matter than Biden saying that despite the MAGA/Trump fecklessness, if the Dems get control, she'll call for the conservative Lankford border bill to be brought back up and passed and she'll sign it...Biden hasn't made that pledge and Dems generally want to get some additional concessions...but that's an important and specific pledge that actually is supported by big majorities of border agents. I think she understands the politics of this and will follow through.

We will find out what the Republican strategy will be in the coming weeks. You don't believe Harris is vulnerable for her and her bosses failure at the southern border. After 3 and 1/2 years of doing nothing all of a sudden come election season now they want to do something. I think the Republican machine will hammer Harris mercilessly over the Biden administration failure. The fact the Democrat machine is feverishly putting their spin on it tells you what you need to know. I believe Harris is incredibly vulnerable on the issue at the southern border. IMO you pick your opponents weakness and you keep poking and jabbing at it. The Republicans strategy has to be directed at convincing those independent voters that Harris is incapable of dealing with the southern border.

absolutely it's a vulnerability. And of course that's what Trump's campaign will attempt to pound on.

I just think Harris is doing exactly the right moves to tamp down its credibility, largely thanks to Trump's interference with a very good bill packed with things Dems hadn't been willing to do before.

And I think the exhaustion with Trump's defeatism and darkness and divisiveness will matter far more to swing voters than the past issues at the border.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:15 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:09 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:45 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:42 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:06 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:31 am Okay boys and girls now that the Republican and Democrat circuses have left town time to get down to business. Kamala Harris is trying to do something very interesting. She has almost overnight attempted to morph into a conservative Republican. She wants to shut down the southern border like the iron curtain shut down Germany. She has had an epiphany and now is advocating for a smaller government and doesn't want the government telling Americans what to do. So the government will no longer be telling me what kind of car to drive, what kind of stove I can use, what kind of furnace I can use to heat my home, what kind of dryer I can use to dry our laundry and so on and so forth. Do I believe any of this ...heck no I don't. An avowed extreme left wing progressive will never allow smaller government ever.

Let's move on over to team trump. There is nothing new over on the right wing side. trump isn't trying to campaign on any issues as of yet. He is more concerned about how the Dems are cheating him. Who ever is in charge of running his campaign must be totally frustrated. The horses are off and the race has started. Time for team trump to start hammering the opponent on her many weaknesses. I suspect her complete failure at the southern border is her Achilles heal. The opponent has an embarrassing record as DA of San Francisco and AG of California that has the majority of law enforcement leadership in California ready to throw her under the bus.

Where are you getting the notion that “the majority of law enforcement leadership in California “ dislike Harris?

Did she have a successful record of prosecution of violent crime? Sex offenders? Cartels?
Did she have success as AG against big banks? Education scammers?

What’s the beef?

I agree that Dems are likely to continue to regulate. But let us know when you actually get told you can’t buy a gas powered car. For real and not by your Chinese news feed.

But you are right that the Dems have adopted a lot of the language and policies of libertarianism. That used to be aligned with Republicans but MAGA has blown that up. Wide open lane for Harris.

I got that idea by reading interviews from law enforcement folks in California who disagreed with her policies as DA and AG. There is one sheriff who was upset that he was used in a Harris campaign ad without his knowledge. All you have to do is a quick Google search. You can draw your own conclusions just as I did.

There was animosity towards Harris for refusing to put the death penalty on the table when a San Francisco police officer was assassinated. You may disagree but I don't think Kamala Harris will by and large receive much rousing support from law enforcement in California. If the Republicans are not as stupid as I think they are there will be law enforcement people from California popping up in ads that will not be very flattering towards the Kamala Harris record as both DA and AG.

"Boudreaux, who recently ran for Congress and lost in a special election, ran a campaign ad featuring former President Donald Trump supporting law enforcement"

yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of MAGA in law enforcement, whether in CA or elsewhere...but that's not remotely "a majority of law enforcement". though I'd think it's like most of the country a 45:45 sort of thing. But one would actually expect in normal times for the GOP candidate to have a 60:40 advantage in law enforcement, maybe even higher...but times are a changing...the majority of law enforcement are in favor of common sense gun regs, and assault weapons ban, and tough penalties for gun trafficking. And the Dems are on that side now. And she actually does have a significant record in prosecuting bad guys and companies successfully.

Harris just went further on the border matter than Biden saying that despite the MAGA/Trump fecklessness, if the Dems get control, she'll call for the conservative Lankford border bill to be brought back up and passed and she'll sign it...Biden hasn't made that pledge and Dems generally want to get some additional concessions...but that's an important and specific pledge that actually is supported by big majorities of border agents. I think she understands the politics of this and will follow through.

We will find out what the Republican strategy will be in the coming weeks. You don't believe Harris is vulnerable for her and her bosses failure at the southern border. After 3 and 1/2 years of doing nothing all of a sudden come election season now they want to do something. I think the Republican machine will hammer Harris mercilessly over the Biden administration failure. The fact the Democrat machine is feverishly putting their spin on it tells you what you need to know. I believe Harris is incredibly vulnerable on the issue at the southern border. IMO you pick your opponents weakness and you keep poking and jabbing at it. The Republicans strategy has to be directed at convincing those independent voters that Harris is incapable of dealing with the southern border.

absolutely it's a vulnerability. And of course that's what Trump's campaign will attempt to pound on.

I just think Harris is doing exactly the right moves to tamp down its credibility, largely thanks to Trump's interference with a very good bill packed with things Dems hadn't been willing to do before.

And I think the exhaustion with Trump's defeatism and darkness and divisiveness will matter far more to swing voters than the past issues at the border.

I wouldn't disagree with your assessment. trump should leave the argument in regards to the southern border to the professional hatchet men/women. trump being trump he won't know or understand when to keep his mouth shut. I'm sure that the Harris campaign understands this and will be ecstatic to hear trump keep flapping his gums about it.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

How long did it take you to put together the construction financing for the airport? Did you use a search firm to hire the air traffic controllers?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

How long did it take you to put together the construction financing for the airport? Did you use a search firm to hire the air traffic controllers?

Old Salt: why the F are you STILL arguing these simple facts?????? What is wrong with you?

Why are all 2024 Republicans in utter denial as to what the government has done for them? Where did these delusions come from?

Every USNA grad I know was proud to be educated and trained the US government. Yet you're on here, spittin' mad because we have the gall to tell you what government does in America...and what it did to give you a very, very good life. Oh no! Not THAT!

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

Old Salt’s thesis before he built that airport:

There are many costs to consider.

First, there would be the challenge of finding suitable land for your airport. Depending on terrain and so forth, you probably need something that’s at least 6000 feet long in one dimension, and if you plan to have an aircraft parking area, a taxiway and a hangar, you’ll probably need the property to be at least 500 feet wide, at least for part of the area. By my calculation, this is would add up to a minimum of about 50–70 acres if you could find a “flag” shaped property.

Terrain is important too. It should be obvious that your land would need to be flat with little incline where the runway would be. If surrounded by large trees, mountains, etc, then you’ll need substantial buffer space around the runway. Plus, you’d want to understand the prevailing winds and align the long dimension of your property such that most days, the wind is coming straight down the runway.

Depending where in the nation you are and what you mean by “small jet”, you’re probably looking for a minimum of 5000 feet of paved runway to handle something like a business jet, and perhaps 7000 feet to comfortably handle something like a 737. Runways are often 100 feet wide, though you can probably get by on 50–75 feet in a pinch. That’s somewhere between 250,000 and 500,000 square feet of runway surface, not including whatever parking areas, taxiways and so on you might need. At around the national average of $7 per square foot, you’re likely looking at $2–4 million just in paving cost.

Depending on how big a jet you plan on landing at your airport (and how often), you may require stronger concrete to handle the weights and pressures. You can read about these requirements here: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... 335_5B.pdf

A quality hangar for a small jet is likely going to cost about $300,000 to build. Add fencing, lighting and things like the cost of automated weather reporting systems if that’s important to you. You may also want some sort of fuel depot, so there’s also the cost of fuel storage tanks, pumps and so on.

Then there’s the political cost. Whatever town or jurisdiction you want to put your airport in is going to require zoning and permits, and usually there will be substantial taxes involved. You’ll need commercial insurance, and no doubt your insurer would have some requirements for you as well in areas like security, safety, training and certifications. This is actually a lot harder than it sounds…neighbors don’t like aircraft noise, so they’ll come out en masse to object to your project, and you can face countless challenges from environmental lawsuits to complaints about noise and safety.

Once you get past all of these hurdles, you basically have an operable airport. You can file with the FAA to have it designated as an “official” private airfield, and this would ultimately get it put on all the charts and in the navigation databases. About the only thing you lack at this point is an instrument approach procedure…you’ll find that without one, you can only use your shiny new airport in good (VFR) weather. If you want the FAA to designate an instrument approach for your airport, that’a whole other thing, but apparently with ample funding, it can be done too.

My guess is that if you’re in a rural area where land can be purchased for under $10,000/acre, you can probably get this whole thing done for about $10 million. The price is highly dependent on things like real estate cost, so if you’re trying to do it near a bigger city with higher land values, the cost could certainly mushroom. It would be hard for me to see it getting done in less than maybe 3–5 years in most jurisdictions.

Of course, all this is the reason nobody builds private airfields for their jets. You can get almost all of these same benefits for a fraction of the time and cost simply by leasing space at an existing airport and putting up your own hangar or other structures.

Well nobody unless you are Old Salt.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

How long did it take you to put together the construction financing for the airport? Did you use a search firm to hire the air traffic controllers?

No air traffic controllers. It's an uncontrolled Unicomm field. The airport was constructed decades before we got the FBO & airport mgmt lease. It was barely used & a bleeding revenue sore. FAA airport development funds w/state contribution paid for an uneeded runway extension, which shut down the airport for construction for 6 mos, with no compensation for our lost & disrupted business. Then they funded a small terminal which still sits idle because they could not attract essential air service, even with FAA subsidy. Yet there has still been exponential revenue generating growth at the airport, thanks to private development, despite govt meddling. Post 9-11 airspace security increases have taken nearly all the airspace to the N. Airspace to the S was already DoD Special use airspace, leaning just a narrow E-W entry/departure corridor. We succeeded in spite of the gubment, not because of it.

Yup, didn’t build it, didn’t need to deal with all those hurdles, just took advantage of all the existing infrastructure paid by taxpayers.

Maybe he paid for the roads to get to and from the airport or…

Kudos on the entrepreneurial scrappiness but sad to see the arrogance of denying the advantages of government.

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

How long did it take you to put together the construction financing for the airport? Did you use a search firm to hire the air traffic controllers?

No air traffic controllers. It's an uncontrolled Unicomm field. The airport was constructed decades before we got the FBO & airport mgmt lease. It was barely used & a bleeding revenue sore. FAA airport development funds w/state contribution paid for an uneeded runway extension, which shut down the airport for construction for 6 mos, with no compensation for our lost & disrupted business. Then they funded a small terminal which still sits idle because they could not attract essential air service, even with FAA subsidy. Yet there has still been exponential revenue generating growth at the airport, thanks to private development, despite govt meddling. Post 9-11 airspace security increases have taken nearly all the airspace to the N. Airspace to the S was already DoD Special use airspace, leaning just a narrow E-W entry/departure corridor. We succeeded in spite of the gubment, not because of it.

Did you build your own or not? Was the government going to collapse until you came along? You used government investment and resources to make your bones.

That sounds socialist, TLD.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:09 pm That sounds socialist, TLD.

I don’t know why it’s hard to say “yeah, we took advantage of government services to fill a need and helps stimulate economic activity”…..it happens all the time. My cousin worked for Intel and had to do a lot of work to make sure the project outside Columbus got off smoothly. Nobody at Intel is denying that the project would not happen without government investment but Old Salt not only claims he didn’t need government help….he propped up the government.

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:05 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:21 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:28 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 am

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

How long did it take you to put together the construction financing for the airport? Did you use a search firm to hire the air traffic controllers?

We succeeded in spite of the gubment, not because of it.

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:15 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:09 pm That sounds socialist, TLD.

I don’t know why it’s hard to say “yeah, we took advantage of government services to fill a need and helps stimulate economic activity”…..it happens all the time. My cousin worked for Intel and had to do a lot of work to make sure the project outside Columbus got off smoothly. Nobody at Intel is denying that the project would not happen without government investment but Old Salt not only claims he didn’t need government help….he propped up the government.

I think it's because he IS the government. That's why he can't sort it out.

It's like that David Foster Wallace remark....fish don't know what water is. Old Salt doesn't sense the Federal Government, because he was immersed in it since the age of 17.

Sorta makes sense in some ways.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:15 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:09 pm That sounds socialist, TLD.

I don’t know why it’s hard to say “yeah, we took advantage of government services to fill a need and helps stimulate economic activity”…..it happens all the time. My cousin worked for Intel and had to do a lot of work to make sure the project outside Columbus got off smoothly. Nobody at Intel is denying that the project would not happen without government investment but Old Salt not only claims he didn’t need government help….he propped up the government.

Intel must be propping up the government too. And they pay taxes. After all, if they didn’t build the plant who would? Oh yeah, a competitor.

It’s as if Salty thinks no one else could have done the work his company did, leveraging US taxpayers resources.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:21 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:15 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:09 pm That sounds socialist, TLD.

I don’t know why it’s hard to say “yeah, we took advantage of government services to fill a need and helps stimulate economic activity”…..it happens all the time. My cousin worked for Intel and had to do a lot of work to make sure the project outside Columbus got off smoothly. Nobody at Intel is denying that the project would not happen without government investment but Old Salt not only claims he didn’t need government help….he propped up the government.

Intel must be propping up the government too. And they pay taxes. After all, if they didn’t build the plant who would? Oh yeah, a competitor.

It’s as if Salty thinks no one else could have done the work his company did, leveraging US taxpayers resources.

I was going to say the exact same thing…..here is the Intel project. My cousin logged a lot of flights from Portland to Columbus….

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... -ohio.html

Doing her black job.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:15 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:09 pm That sounds socialist, TLD.

I don’t know why it’s hard to say “yeah, we took advantage of government services to fill a need and helps stimulate economic activity”…..it happens all the time. My cousin worked for Intel and had to do a lot of work to make sure the project outside Columbus got off smoothly. Nobody at Intel is denying that the project would not happen without government investment but Old Salt not only claims he didn’t need government help….he propped up the government.

Steak dinner says there are a TON of Intel employees who have NO IDEA about the .gov help, and vote Republican and small .gov....and are convinced that the .gov never did anything for them.

It USED to be that Republicans viewed taxes and government as the foundation of civilized society.

Now? They can't even pass a freaking Infrastructure Bill....this biggest layup in the history of American government, because they don't want their supporters to know what Government does for them.