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It is remarkable that despite the establishment being against him, having been spied on, enduring a failed coup and a special counsel investigation, tech companies rigging results, hourly fake news, that @realDonaldTrump WON in 2016 and is more popular today than ever before!

Even more remarkable that Dems did all these things and still lost in 2016 and very likely to get owned again in 2020. Your daily reminder that Trump is your President and it’s time to wake up to all the good things he’s doing for all Americans! The most pro gay, pro black and pro Hispanic president ever!
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Bandito's like your morning bowel movement, can pretty much count on him to stink the place up every morning, he's pretty regular with that.
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Bandito wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:10 am It is remarkable that despite the establishment being against him, having been spied on, enduring a failed coup and a special counsel investigation, tech companies rigging results, hourly fake news, that @realDonaldTrump WON in 2016 and is more popular today than ever before!

Even more remarkable that Dems did all these things and still lost in 2016 and very likely to get owned again in 2020. Your daily reminder that Trump is your President and it’s time to wake up to all the good things he’s doing for all Americans! The most pro gay, pro black and pro Hispanic president ever!
You are right. It is remarkable...actually it's incomprehensible.
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old salt wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:45 pm
CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:41 pm Which is exactly what's been happening for the past few decades.
So why is there such ambiguity & uncertainty about the number of undocumented non-citizens resident in the US ?

Where did the 11 million number come from & how accurate is it ?

https://www.pewresearch.org/topics/unau ... migration/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... mmigrants/

...according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on census data adjusted for undercount.

...There were 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2017, accounting for 3.2% of the nation’s population.
You can't actually be this dense.
"unauthorized immigrants" have no interest in being counted, indeed want to avoid being noticed. So, they will always be undercounted to some extent. Best you'll ever get is an estimate. The estimate could well be higher than the actual # as estimates attempt to account for undercounting and could over adjust. Or they could miss the other way. But in no instance is there the same level of confidence in the estimate of unauthorized as compared to the confidence in the count of total population, itself never perfect. Just much higher confidence level.

According to the Census Bureau experts, the question would have exacerbated the undercount, made it worse. Lowering the confidence in the total population count.

The intent of this attempted increased undercount was to diminish the relative counts in particular states and districts relative to others which have lesser immigrant (authorized or not) populations. That was pretty darn obvious, yet that would have its own Constitutional issues. And then the DOJ and Ross lied about the intent. Got called on the carpet for the lie.

Had they come back with the truth, they'd have lost as well.

What Trump has 'ordered' is what is already done with various data sources for purposes other than arriving at the total count. Nothing actually new.
No victory there, just more grandstanding for the dumb.

If they try, however, to provide a total population count lower than what is derived from the Census itself, they'll be back in Court and will lose.
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foreverlax wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:06 am
Bandito wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:10 am It is remarkable that despite the establishment being against him, having been spied on, enduring a failed coup and a special counsel investigation, tech companies rigging results, hourly fake news, that @realDonaldTrump WON in 2016 and is more popular today than ever before!

Even more remarkable that Dems did all these things and still lost in 2016 and very likely to get owned again in 2020. Your daily reminder that Trump is your President and it’s time to wake up to all the good things he’s doing for all Americans! The most pro gay, pro black and pro Hispanic president ever!
You are right. It is remarkable...actually it's incomprehensible.
Suck it. You lost. America won.
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Trump’s penchant for military parades harks back to the old unlamented Soviet Union.

By Alexei Bayer, July 8, 2019 ( he is not American)

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Takeaways

This year’s celebration of American independence was ostensibly about the US military. In reality, it was about Trump’s ego.
Trump’s penchant for military parades harks back to the old unlamented Soviet Union.
Trump is often seen as an aberration. But many of the things he says and does are a culmination of long-time trends in US politics and society.

One must really wonder about what is supposedly so superb about the Pentagon’s record over the past 65 years.
Staging military parades is a sign of military weakness. Many second-rate countries have parades.

This year’s celebration of American independence was ostensibly all about the U.S. military. In reality, it was all about Donald Trump’s ego. Ever since he laid eyes on France’s July 14th parade in 2016 at the invitation of Emmanuel Macron, Trump had to have one himself.

Thus, with a special thanks to the French President’s bygone efforts to fence in the American president with French charm and attention, Trump finally got his military parade, complete with military vehicles and tanks in the streets of Washington, and a flyover by fighter jets.

Parting with tradition

In sharp contrast to all the years past, nothing was mentioned about the great ideals — life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness — on which the United States was built. Under all of Trump’s predecessors, they had been the theme of Fourth of July celebrations.

Instead, there was lots of bragging about America’s unprecedented military strength, mostly achieved, as Trump unsurprisingly sees it, on his watch. Perhaps as justification of the costs involved, Trump afterwards told reporters that many people will be volunteering for the U.S. military following such splendid patriotic pageantry.

Giving the man his due

While Trump is often decried in the United States as an aberration, the truth is that many of the things Trump says and does are a culmination of long-time trends in U.S. politics and society.

Reverence for the military is one such trend, from which a military parade down Independence Avenue was a natural outgrowth.

Expressions of gratitude to active duty personnel and veterans have long been one of those pieties which everyone readily mouths.

Playing the national anthem before every professional sports event — when a bunch of overpaid guys engage in kids’ games — is invariably accompanied by the presentation of colors by a uniformed detachment and expressions of thanks “to men and women in uniform.”

Americans love their military

Colin Kaepernick, a top African-American quarterback who dared to take a knee during the singing of the national anthem to protest police brutality, has been accused by Trump of disrespecting the U.S. military and run out of professional football.

Corporations have cottoned on to this massive hypocrisy. Active duty personnel, for example, get priority boarding on Delta Airlines flights.

Veterans and service personnel deserve respect, but Americans respect the military as an institution, not as individuals making sacrifices.

There are plenty of stories about veterans being unceremoniously deported by ICE. The Veterans Administration is perennially mired in scandal and is underfunded, and sick or indigent veterans are routinely ignored.

On the other hand, 74% of Americans trust the military — i.e., the Pentagon. This is the most by a considerable margin, while television news get a 20% trust rating and Congress 11%.

Trump’s military parade was also about the Pentagon, not the enlisted personnel who had to spend their 4th of July under the torrential rain and sweltering heat of Washington.

A reality check on performance

At the same time, one must really wonder about what is supposedly so superb about the Pentagon’s record over the past 65 years.

After fighting North Korea and China to a draw (that conflict is still simmering sixty years on), the U.S. military lost the war in Vietnam, abandoning its South Vietnamese allies and the people of Laos and Cambodia to their tragic fate.

It then gloriously defeated Saddam in Kuwait, but it was only Stage One of the prolonged war in Iraq, which can’t be considered as an American victory. And it is in the process of losing the war in Afghanistan, where the United States has been engaged in the longest and most futile war in its history. The Pentagon is now negotiating an “honorable” exit with the Taliban, which looks suspiciously like the Paris Accords of 1973.

Back then, the sides that were subsequently awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, merely agreed to a decent face-saving interval for Washington before the North Vietnamese overran Saigon.

Military parades: A sign of military weakness

Truth be told, staging military parades is always a sign of military weakness. Many second-rate countries have parades and, for me at least, Trump’s parade harks back to the old unlamented Soviet Union.

Trump’s parade is a classic display of military impotence. The ridiculous Twitter duel with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un, in which Trump boasted that his nuclear button is bigger than Kim’s ended with an exchange of love letters and a meeting on the North Korean territory.

Needless to say, no nuclear disarmament by Pyongyang is forthcoming.

Trump’s saber-rattling against Iran has been equally useless. After threatening the mullahs with annihilation, Trump then promptly called off the supposed bombing raid on Iranian targets. The paper tiger quality of American military threats has been laughable.

What is not a laughing matter is the complete impunity with which Vladimir Putin is rejiggering the post-Soviet map. True, no one is going to start a nuclear war for the sake of Georgia or Ukraine, or when Moscow annexes Crimea.

But Trump’s ignominious deterrence to Vlad, the Aggressor in the Kremlin, makes a sad mockery of the display of American military hardware on Independence Day.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:45 pm
CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:41 pm Which is exactly what's been happening for the past few decades.
So why is there such ambiguity & uncertainty about the number of undocumented non-citizens resident in the US ?

Where did the 11 million number come from & how accurate is it ?

https://www.pewresearch.org/topics/unau ... migration/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... mmigrants/

...according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on census data adjusted for undercount.

...There were 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2017, accounting for 3.2% of the nation’s population.
You can't actually be this dense.
"unauthorized immigrants" have no interest in being counted, indeed want to avoid being noticed. So, they will always be undercounted to some extent. Best you'll ever get is an estimate. The estimate could well be higher than the actual # as estimates attempt to account for undercounting and could over adjust. Or they could miss the other way. But in no instance is there the same level of confidence in the estimate of unauthorized as compared to the confidence in the count of total population, itself never perfect. Just much higher confidence level.

According to the Census Bureau experts, the question would have exacerbated the undercount, made it worse. Lowering the confidence in the total population count.

The intent of this attempted increased undercount was to diminish the relative counts in particular states and districts relative to others which have lesser immigrant (authorized or not) populations. That was pretty darn obvious, yet that would have its own Constitutional issues. And then the DOJ and Ross lied about the intent. Got called on the carpet for the lie.

Had they come back with the truth, they'd have lost as well.

What Trump has 'ordered' is what is already done with various data sources for purposes other than arriving at the total count. Nothing actually new.
No victory there, just more grandstanding for the dumb.

If they try, however, to provide a total population count lower than what is derived from the Census itself, they'll be back in Court and will lose.
Blah, blah, blah. You're too dense to confront my simple question.
How many undocumented aliens are residing inside the USA & how is that number accurately calculated.
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old salt wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:47 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:45 pm
CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:41 pm Which is exactly what's been happening for the past few decades.
So why is there such ambiguity & uncertainty about the number of undocumented non-citizens resident in the US ?

Where did the 11 million number come from & how accurate is it ?

https://www.pewresearch.org/topics/unau ... migration/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... mmigrants/

...according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on census data adjusted for undercount.

...There were 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2017, accounting for 3.2% of the nation’s population.
You can't actually be this dense.
"unauthorized immigrants" have no interest in being counted, indeed want to avoid being noticed. So, they will always be undercounted to some extent. Best you'll ever get is an estimate. The estimate could well be higher than the actual # as estimates attempt to account for undercounting and could over adjust. Or they could miss the other way. But in no instance is there the same level of confidence in the estimate of unauthorized as compared to the confidence in the count of total population, itself never perfect. Just much higher confidence level.

According to the Census Bureau experts, the question would have exacerbated the undercount, made it worse. Lowering the confidence in the total population count.

The intent of this attempted increased undercount was to diminish the relative counts in particular states and districts relative to others which have lesser immigrant (authorized or not) populations. That was pretty darn obvious, yet that would have its own Constitutional issues. And then the DOJ and Ross lied about the intent. Got called on the carpet for the lie.

Had they come back with the truth, they'd have lost as well.

What Trump has 'ordered' is what is already done with various data sources for purposes other than arriving at the total count. Nothing actually new.
No victory there, just more grandstanding for the dumb.

If they try, however, to provide a total population count lower than what is derived from the Census itself, they'll be back in Court and will lose.
Blah, blah, blah. You're too dense to confront my simple question.
How many undocumented aliens are residing inside the USA & how is that number accurately calculated.
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old salt wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:47 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:45 pm
CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:41 pm Which is exactly what's been happening for the past few decades.
So why is there such ambiguity & uncertainty about the number of undocumented non-citizens resident in the US ?

Where did the 11 million number come from & how accurate is it ?

https://www.pewresearch.org/topics/unau ... migration/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... mmigrants/

...according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on census data adjusted for undercount.

...There were 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2017, accounting for 3.2% of the nation’s population.
You can't actually be this dense.
"unauthorized immigrants" have no interest in being counted, indeed want to avoid being noticed. So, they will always be undercounted to some extent. Best you'll ever get is an estimate. The estimate could well be higher than the actual # as estimates attempt to account for undercounting and could over adjust. Or they could miss the other way. But in no instance is there the same level of confidence in the estimate of unauthorized as compared to the confidence in the count of total population, itself never perfect. Just much higher confidence level.

According to the Census Bureau experts, the question would have exacerbated the undercount, made it worse. Lowering the confidence in the total population count.

The intent of this attempted increased undercount was to diminish the relative counts in particular states and districts relative to others which have lesser immigrant (authorized or not) populations. That was pretty darn obvious, yet that would have its own Constitutional issues. And then the DOJ and Ross lied about the intent. Got called on the carpet for the lie.

Had they come back with the truth, they'd have lost as well.

What Trump has 'ordered' is what is already done with various data sources for purposes other than arriving at the total count. Nothing actually new.
No victory there, just more grandstanding for the dumb.

If they try, however, to provide a total population count lower than what is derived from the Census itself, they'll be back in Court and will lose.
Blah, blah, blah. You're too dense to confront my simple question.
How many undocumented aliens are residing inside the USA & how is that number accurately calculated.
I confronted it very directly. We estimate.
We simply can't count "accurately" people who are afraid to be counted, so avoid it. So we make the best estimates we can.

But perhaps I should ask you why you think it's essential for our estimates to be more "accurate" than they already are?

I also addressed why making the experts are so sure that adding the question would not have resulted in a better count of undocumented, just a reduced count of overall population.

But Trump may already have done the damage intended by making this Census into a very scary thing for immigrants, whether legal with family undocumented or those not documented. The intent was to scare certain people into avoiding the Census. That may already be done.
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Trump publicly defending Pelosi from the AOC attacks is the easily the most savage thing he’s ever done to anyone. She’s struggling to maintain control of her party and she’ll be forced to reject his “gesture of goodwill” or her rabid base will become even more convinced she’s a sellout. Genius. A stable genius at that!
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DMac wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:40 am Bandito's like your morning bowel movement, can pretty much count on him to stink the place up every morning, he's pretty regular with that.
You bring no substance to the boards. You’re a bitter old man that is miserable on a daily basis. I’m providing the truth and other side to all the lunatic liberals on here. The truth shall set you free. But but but Orange man bad!! Deal with facts like I do, not feelings
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Bandito wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:32 am
DMac wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:40 am Bandito's like your morning bowel movement, can pretty much count on him to stink the place up every morning, he's pretty regular with that.
You bring no substance to the boards. You’re a bitter old man that is miserable on a daily basis. I’m providing the truth and other side to all the lunatic liberals on here. The truth shall set you free. But but but Orange man bad!! Deal with facts like I do, not feelings
You and your colleagues in hatred must be pissed. The first responder's compensation fund has been approved in the house. Only 12 brave, stalwart WHITE MALE Congress-things voted NO! Not to worry FRITOBOY. Senator and part-time speech therapist McConnell will make sure it will die in the WB Fraternity.

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Bandito wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:28 am
foreverlax wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:06 am
Bandito wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:10 am It is remarkable that despite the establishment being against him, having been spied on, enduring a failed coup and a special counsel investigation, tech companies rigging results, hourly fake news, that @realDonaldTrump WON in 2016 and is more popular today than ever before!

Even more remarkable that Dems did all these things and still lost in 2016 and very likely to get owned again in 2020. Your daily reminder that Trump is your President and it’s time to wake up to all the good things he’s doing for all Americans! The most pro gay, pro black and pro Hispanic president ever!
You are right. It is remarkable...actually it's incomprehensible.
Suck it. You lost. America won.
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Trump is #RacistInChief because he called every immigrant "animals" (including his wife), because he specifically called Nazi's/KKK "good people", because he banned every Muslim from the country and because he's the 1st president to not allow illegals in the country. . . . Right? Whenever you hear a leftist calling him a racist, those are the examples they give you. . . and NOT ONE of them are true! The man has been a celebrity for 40 years, and they can't name one actual racist thing that he ever said. . However, Hillary's "mentor" was a KKK leader
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Obama DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: "I cannot believe a president of the United States would make a comment about foreign born members of Congress suggesting they go back from where they came from ... Americans should not become numb to this kind of language."

Three of four were born in the US, btw
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Trinity wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:18 pm Obama DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: "I cannot believe a president of the United States would make a comment about foreign born members of Congress suggesting they go back from where they came from ... Americans should not become numb to this kind of language."

Three of four were born in the US, btw
What he is saying is those congresswomen, especially Illan Omar despise this country. He’s saying if you don’t like it here they can leave. He’s 100 percent correct. The left has lost their way and absolutely hates the US. Just look at the protesters in Aurora CO who raises the Mexican flag at an ICE detention facility. Look at some congress members actively impeding ICE from deporting illegals. This is what he’s talking about. But don’t let your liberal mushy brain get in the way of facts
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Trinity wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:18 pm Obama DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: "I cannot believe a president of the United States would make a comment about foreign born members of Congress suggesting they go back from where they came from ... Americans should not become numb to this kind of language."

Three of four were born in the US, btw
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Bandito wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:44 pm
Trinity wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:18 pm Obama DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: "I cannot believe a president of the United States would make a comment about foreign born members of Congress suggesting they go back from where they came from ... Americans should not become numb to this kind of language."

Three of four were born in the US, btw
What he is saying is those congresswomen, especially Illan Omar despise this country. He’s saying if you don’t like it here they can leave. He’s 100 percent correct. The left has lost their way and absolutely hates the US. Just look at the protesters in Aurora CO who raises the Mexican flag at an ICE detention facility. Look at some congress members actively impeding ICE from deporting illegals. This is what he’s talking about. But don’t let your liberal mushy brain get in the way of facts
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:51 pm
Bandito wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:44 pm
Trinity wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:18 pm Obama DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: "I cannot believe a president of the United States would make a comment about foreign born members of Congress suggesting they go back from where they came from ... Americans should not become numb to this kind of language."

Three of four were born in the US, btw
What he is saying is those congresswomen, especially Illan Omar despise this country. He’s saying if you don’t like it here they can leave. He’s 100 percent correct. The left has lost their way and absolutely hates the US. Just look at the protesters in Aurora CO who raises the Mexican flag at an ICE detention facility. Look at some congress members actively impeding ICE from deporting illegals. This is what he’s talking about. But don’t let your liberal mushy brain get in the way of facts
Hey Manuelito!!!

Illegals are not welcome here. Legal immigrants are welcome. Democrats can’t seem to grasp this simple concept.
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