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old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:56 pmThey're examining ballots for hanging chads to see if the motion was approved or declined.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:56 pm

Matnum PI wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:42 pm Florida cruise ship. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cr ... m-n1173576

The Broward County Commission is deciding whether or not to allow the ship to come into Ft Lauderdale.
They're examining ballots for hanging chads to see if the motion was approved or declined.
Trump should be able to allow the ship to tie up in Naval Station Mayport. Their pier can handle an aircraft carrier.
8000 ft runway to fly out the healthy, negative passengers.
Good place to try out the new Abbot point of care test gizmos.

These are mostly So Americans. The countries down there refused the ships to enter their countries, with their own citizens.

The Mayor really has final say so...he tells the Commission what to do. Broward and Ft Lauderdale are awful...the Mayor is a piece of work. Yes, Democrat. Yes, super liberal. It will be interesting to see what he ultimately says or decides.

According to Vice President Pence, we are the new Italy, which means we are the new standard of failure in this pandemic.

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:06 pm

It is going to take a pretty long time at the current death rate of 500 a day, to reach 100,000-200,000 deaths.
Say like 200-400 days.
With the curve of new cases starting to flatten out - it could mean that this will be a somewhat constant rate.

Let's assume our experience turns out to be EXACTLY the same as Italy's.

Italy is a couple weeks ahead of us. Italy's deaths were doubling every 2-3 days (which is where we are right now) a couple weeks back. Now Italy is doubling every 8 days as their curve gets bent. Let's assume they have one more week at that rate. And then two weeks at half of that (which is where SK currently is).

Italy is now at 12k deaths. So 25k one week from now, and 50k three weeks from now. And then they are mostly done with the crisis.

Italy has 60 million population, U.S. 325 million. 50k deaths times 5.4 pop adjustment gets you to 270,000 U.S. deaths. Over the next 4-5 weeks.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:08 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:56 pm

Matnum PI wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:42 pm Florida cruise ship. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cr ... m-n1173576

The Broward County Commission is deciding whether or not to allow the ship to come into Ft Lauderdale.
They're examining ballots for hanging chads to see if the motion was approved or declined.
Trump should be able to allow the ship to tie up in Naval Station Mayport. Their pier can handle an aircraft carrier.
8000 ft runway to fly out the healthy, negative passengers.
Good place to try out the new Abbot point of care test gizmos.

These are mostly So Americans. The countries down there refused the ships to enter their countries, with their own citizens.

The Mayor really has final say so...he tells the Commission what to do. Broward and Ft Lauderdale are awful...the Mayor is a piece of work. Yes, Democrat. Yes, super liberal. It will be interesting to see what he ultimately says or decides.

300 Americans on the 2 ships. The cruise departed Buenos Aires on March 8.
Criminally stupid of both the cruise line & the passengers to embark on the cruise.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:00 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:58 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:55 am Toronto has just announced that all public events are banned to June 30th. I’d say we’re in this for the long run.

I don’t see any end of quarantines for a month after a federal lockdown, whenever that happens. My biggest concerns are for the attrition of healthcare workers due to overuse and lack of essential supplies. Also for what will happen when food market workers start becoming sick which could lead to temporary shutdowns and reduced hours which would in turn lead to more panic buying. Civil unrest, especially in low income areas that lack services, could be troublesome made worse by reduced police, fire and EMT services due to illness.

my concerns as well.

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:01 pm Thanks, gents. I missed that. I guess I am not watching enough TV. Better up it to 16 hours a day.

So the study is based on Chinese experience which may or may not be transferable to the US.

I focus more on the US death rate. Saw an article on CNN that the number of cases here could be 30-50% higher than those reported. So if you increase the current reported number of 187,392 by 50%, you get 281,088. Using current deaths of 3892, that gives you a death rate of about 1.4%.

I hope, and everyone hopes, the death rate will be as low as possible. Just trying to get my arms around this. Not trying to pick a fight. I’ll come up with an idea for that later in the day no doubt.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:15 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:00 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:58 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:55 am Toronto has just announced that all public events are banned to June 30th. I’d say we’re in this for the long run.

I don’t see any end of quarantines for a month after a federal lockdown, whenever that happens. My biggest concerns are for the attrition of healthcare workers due to overuse and lack of essential supplies. Also for what will happen when food market workers start becoming sick which could lead to temporary shutdowns and reduced hours which would in turn lead to more panic buying. Civil unrest, especially in low income areas that lack services, could be troublesome made worse by reduced police, fire and EMT services due to illness.

my concerns as well.

My brother owns & operates a grocery store in MO. He's experiencing triple the normal sales volume.
The store also sells beer & liquor. He's also a guns & ammo dealer.
He has a group of guns/ammo friends/customers who have offered to guard 24/7 if needed.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:14 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:08 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:56 pm

Matnum PI wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:42 pm Florida cruise ship. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cr ... m-n1173576

The Broward County Commission is deciding whether or not to allow the ship to come into Ft Lauderdale.
They're examining ballots for hanging chads to see if the motion was approved or declined.
Trump should be able to allow the ship to tie up in Naval Station Mayport. Their pier can handle an aircraft carrier.
8000 ft runway to fly out the healthy, negative passengers.
Good place to try out the new Abbot point of care test gizmos.

These are mostly So Americans. The countries down there refused the ships to enter their countries, with their own citizens.

The Mayor really has final say so...he tells the Commission what to do. Broward and Ft Lauderdale are awful...the Mayor is a piece of work. Yes, Democrat. Yes, super liberal. It will be interesting to see what he ultimately says or decides.

300 Americans on the 2 ships. The cruise departed Buenos Aires on March 8.
Criminally stupid of both the cruise line & the passengers to embark on the cruise.

Stupid but not criminal. Everyone has a right to be stupid, and you will not stop that.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:24 pm My friend and #1 governor in America, Ron DeSantis, has ordered all residents except for those working in essential businesses to stay home starting tonight, for 30 days. In other words, all Democrats must stay home.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:28 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:24 pm My friend and #1 governor in America, Ron DeSantis, has ordered all residents except for those working in essential businesses to stay home starting tonight, for 30 days. In other words, all Democrats must stay home.

Please keep all those food workers, grocery shelf stockers, pharmacists, etc working PB...you know, all those Dems.

Good news though. Expect it to be through May.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:28 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:24 pm My friend and #1 governor in America, Ron DeSantis, has ordered all residents except for those working in essential businesses to stay home starting tonight, for 30 days. In other words, all Democrats must stay home.

Please keep all those food workers, grocery shelf stockers, pharmacists, etc working PB...you know, all those Dems.

Good news though. Expect it to be through May.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:31 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:28 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:24 pm My friend and #1 governor in America, Ron DeSantis, has ordered all residents except for those working in essential businesses to stay home starting tonight, for 30 days. In other words, all Democrats must stay home.

Please keep all those food workers, grocery shelf stockers, pharmacists, etc working PB...you know, all those Dems.

Good news though. Expect it to be through May.

They would be Democrats but they don't vote. We suppress the vote down here however we can.

I am now awaiting apologies from JHU72, DocB, Red and all the others who criticize DeSantis but not Pennsylvania's Wolf, who still has not issued a stay at home order.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:31 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:28 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:24 pm My friend and #1 governor in America, Ron DeSantis, has ordered all residents except for those working in essential businesses to stay home starting tonight, for 30 days. In other words, all Democrats must stay home.

Please keep all those food workers, grocery shelf stockers, pharmacists, etc working PB...you know, all those Dems.

Good news though. Expect it to be through May.

They would be Democrats but they don't vote. We suppress the vote down here however we can.

I am now awaiting apologies from JHU72, DocB, Red and all the others who criticize DeSantis but not Pennsylvania's Wolf, who still has not issued a stay at home order.

6ftstick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:41 pm According to Vice President Pence, we are the new Italy, which means we are the new standard of failure in this pandemic.

What

Daily Death rate
Italy 14 deaths per day per million.
Spain 17 deaths per day per million.
UK a little under 3 deaths per day per million.
US 1.2 deaths per day per million

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:44 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:41 pm According to Vice President Pence, we are the new Italy, which means we are the new standard of failure in this pandemic.

What

Daily Death rate
Italy 14 deaths per day per million.
Spain 17 deaths per day per million.
UK a little under 3 deaths per day per million.
US 1.2 deaths per day per million

Is Pence wrong?

Florida @GovRonDeSantis tis to sign order requiring residents to 'limit movements' outside home

"I'm going to be doing an executive order today directing all Floridians to limit movements and all personal interactions outside the home to only those necessary to obtain or provide essential services or conduct essential activities," DeSantis said at a press briefing.