Johns Hopkins 2023

[primitiveskills]

Who starts in the goal against the Knights?

Marcille

[nyjay]

So watched the OSU Rutgers game last night and didn't see that one coming and not sure how to feel about it. I might have preferred a comfortable Knight victory but now Rutgers' back is against the wall and they will come out flying. IF RU loses they close the season with Maryland and @ Penn State. Cameron's presence or lack thereof is important. For Hopkins, the Rutgers game last year was a low point - defense played OK limiting Rutgers transition and holding them to 35 shots and only 19 on goal but the offense was smurf central - DeSimone/Bauer/Keogh and Angelus all started - and was drecch - 29 shots/14 on goal. It was 3-0 and 9-2 late in the 2nd and was over from that standpoint. The teams won't recognize each other from last year if Rutgers starting line-up is the same as against OSU - Knoblach/Scott and Russo are the only starters from last years game for Rutgers and Angelus/Degnon/Smith and Szuluk are the only ones for Hopkins. The game last year had 41 turnovers and Hopkins was murdered on groundballs - nominal total were Rutgers 39- Hopkins 30 but Narewski had 11 ground balls for Hopkins and Dugenio had 3 so non face-off man gbs were 36-19. Kirst was spotted reading a book in goal last year for all the work Hopkins made him do and Kirson was 37% one of his weakest statistical games. Wahlund was fantastic last night in goal for OSU - made every save he should have to quote Dixie. If Hopkins can get a very soilid performance in goal - flip the ground ball metric and make Rutgers work for everything they might have a fighter's chance. I've stopped thinking about commenting on Hopkins not turning the ball over - it's like telling a kid to clean up his room.
Weathe ris now a high of 73 - showers might be gone but windy - come on Jays fans - show up!

I've been on record about this before - I don't think this Rutgers team is as good they've been the last couple of years. They're not the same transition team that they've been in the past and they're nowhere near as deep offensively. LIke Michigan, they're fairly top-heavy on offense with Kulas, Scott, Cameron and Knoblauch doing most of their damage. They faceoff well and their goalie play is pretty solid (though like most can be pretty up and down).

The guy I worry about is Scott - not sure we have a pole who's a great matchup for him. And he seems to have abused us fairly regularly in the past. As with Michigan, I think it's important to force their depth players to beat us.

Haven't seen any lines for the game yet, but my guess is that it will be something like Hop -1.5, with an O/U or 23.5 or so. (Yes, I think they will be favored)

No reason why the Jays can't win this one, but will require good performances for specialists (and the SSDM) and not turning the ball over 20 times.

[primitiveskills]

https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... ens-top-20

stevens on rutgers. Either OSU gave us a blueprint to beat rutgers or woke them up going into a short week.
Rutgers (-5)

Here’s the full list of teams that have kept the Scarlet Knights below 10 goals over the last three seasons: Maryland (2021), Maryland (2022), Maryland (2022 again) and Ohio State (2023). That underscores both how good a night the Buckeyes’ defense had Sunday and how unusual it is for the Rutgers offense to be contained so effectively. One thing that was probably disappointing for the Scarlet Knights was a 29-23 ground ball deficit that grows to 23-12 when faceoff specialists are removed. Don’t be surprised if a more fervent version of Rutgers shows up Saturday at Johns Hopkins.

https://lacrossereference.com/teams/a0031/
lacrosse reference has stats that are easier than the ncaa to navigate. the gb numbers trended up to the end of the month and are up 10 percent over Petro's last season.

This Rutgers offense is a far, far cry from what they've had in recent years. If you can keep Scott somewhat under control (as van Buren did last night; I think Smith has the ability to do the same for us) and don't leave Knoblauch, they can be contained.

[primitiveskills]

So watched the OSU Rutgers game last night and didn't see that one coming and not sure how to feel about it. I might have preferred a comfortable Knight victory but now Rutgers' back is against the wall and they will come out flying. IF RU loses they close the season with Maryland and @ Penn State. Cameron's presence or lack thereof is important. For Hopkins, the Rutgers game last year was a low point - defense played OK limiting Rutgers transition and holding them to 35 shots and only 19 on goal but the offense was smurf central - DeSimone/Bauer/Keogh and Angelus all started - and was drecch - 29 shots/14 on goal. It was 3-0 and 9-2 late in the 2nd and was over from that standpoint. The teams won't recognize each other from last year if Rutgers starting line-up is the same as against OSU - Knoblach/Scott and Russo are the only starters from last years game for Rutgers and Angelus/Degnon/Smith and Szuluk are the only ones for Hopkins. The game last year had 41 turnovers and Hopkins was murdered on groundballs - nominal total were Rutgers 39- Hopkins 30 but Narewski had 11 ground balls for Hopkins and Dugenio had 3 so non face-off man gbs were 36-19. Kirst was spotted reading a book in goal last year for all the work Hopkins made him do and Kirson was 37% one of his weakest statistical games. Wahlund was fantastic last night in goal for OSU - made every save he should have to quote Dixie. If Hopkins can get a very soilid performance in goal - flip the ground ball metric and make Rutgers work for everything they might have a fighter's chance. I've stopped thinking about commenting on Hopkins not turning the ball over - it's like telling a kid to clean up his room.
Weathe ris now a high of 73 - showers might be gone but windy - come on Jays fans - show up!

I've been on record about this before - I don't think this Rutgers team is as good they've been the last couple of years. They're not the same transition team that they've been in the past and they're nowhere near as deep offensively. LIke Michigan, they're fairly top-heavy on offense with Kulas, Scott, Cameron and Knoblauch doing most of their damage. They faceoff well and their goalie play is pretty solid (though like most can be pretty up and down).

The guy I worry about is Scott - not sure we have a pole who's a great matchup for him. And he seems to have abused us fairly regularly in the past. As with Michigan, I think it's important to force their depth players to beat us.

Haven't seen any lines for the game yet, but my guess is that it will be something like Hop -1.5, with an O/U or 23.5 or so. (Yes, I think they will be favored)

No reason why the Jays can't win this one, but will require good performances for specialists (and the SSDM) and not turning the ball over 20 times.

I think Cameron is hurt

[nyjay]

So watched the OSU Rutgers game last night and didn't see that one coming and not sure how to feel about it. I might have preferred a comfortable Knight victory but now Rutgers' back is against the wall and they will come out flying. IF RU loses they close the season with Maryland and @ Penn State. Cameron's presence or lack thereof is important. For Hopkins, the Rutgers game last year was a low point - defense played OK limiting Rutgers transition and holding them to 35 shots and only 19 on goal but the offense was smurf central - DeSimone/Bauer/Keogh and Angelus all started - and was drecch - 29 shots/14 on goal. It was 3-0 and 9-2 late in the 2nd and was over from that standpoint. The teams won't recognize each other from last year if Rutgers starting line-up is the same as against OSU - Knoblach/Scott and Russo are the only starters from last years game for Rutgers and Angelus/Degnon/Smith and Szuluk are the only ones for Hopkins. The game last year had 41 turnovers and Hopkins was murdered on groundballs - nominal total were Rutgers 39- Hopkins 30 but Narewski had 11 ground balls for Hopkins and Dugenio had 3 so non face-off man gbs were 36-19. Kirst was spotted reading a book in goal last year for all the work Hopkins made him do and Kirson was 37% one of his weakest statistical games. Wahlund was fantastic last night in goal for OSU - made every save he should have to quote Dixie. If Hopkins can get a very soilid performance in goal - flip the ground ball metric and make Rutgers work for everything they might have a fighter's chance. I've stopped thinking about commenting on Hopkins not turning the ball over - it's like telling a kid to clean up his room.
Weathe ris now a high of 73 - showers might be gone but windy - come on Jays fans - show up!

I've been on record about this before - I don't think this Rutgers team is as good they've been the last couple of years. They're not the same transition team that they've been in the past and they're nowhere near as deep offensively. LIke Michigan, they're fairly top-heavy on offense with Kulas, Scott, Cameron and Knoblauch doing most of their damage. They faceoff well and their goalie play is pretty solid (though like most can be pretty up and down).

The guy I worry about is Scott - not sure we have a pole who's a great matchup for him. And he seems to have abused us fairly regularly in the past. As with Michigan, I think it's important to force their depth players to beat us.

Haven't seen any lines for the game yet, but my guess is that it will be something like Hop -1.5, with an O/U or 23.5 or so. (Yes, I think they will be favored)

No reason why the Jays can't win this one, but will require good performances for specialists (and the SSDM) and not turning the ball over 20 times.

I think Cameron is hurt

Thanks - nice to see that we otherwise agree though.

[51percentcorn]

Cameron has missed the last two games - that's a big deal - 34 goals last year for Rutgers - 20 in 7 games this year - that like taking Degnon off Hopkins. OSU's goalie played a very technically solid game last night. He never came off the pipe and created a bad angle for himself.

Molo's ? is the big one. I wouldn't want to have to bet alot of money on it. I lean Marcille

Hopkins needs its most complete game of the year - a win really sets up for an exciting finish to the season. You keep pace with Maryland who will be I assume a heavy favorite against Michigan.

[nrthcrosslax]

Unless he is hurt, I think Marcille is back in goal.

[HopFan16]

It'll be Marcille. He just wasn't seeing it great in the rain and lights. The D had also made an uncharacteristic mistake or two so they may have just wanted to switch up the energy a bit. It worked. Caracciolo had been itching to go and he had a nice half (box score is very incorrect as to his save %). Marcille should be back in there on Saturday but now he knows how long the leash is and we have two guys who've shown they can come in relief and play competently. Hopefully that knowledge brings the best out of Timmy and the defense in front of him.

Scott Smith completely took Ross Scott out of the game last year. Not super worried about that. Without Cameron, Rutgers is going to need midfield production. The concern is our defensive midfield against Knobloch IMO. He can shoot but unlike a lot of other midfielders, he also passes well out of double teams and can make you pay for sliding early. Our help defense has to be tight.

Senior Day on Saturday. If the rain holds off it should be a good crowd. Nauseating to think our seniors are 1-3 against Rutgers in the last four matchups. They'll want to change that.

[NOVALax2015]

If Hopkins can get a very soilid performance in goal - flip the ground ball metric and make Rutgers work for everything they might have a fighter's chance.

If Hopkins can get a very solid performance in goal, flip the ground ball metric, and make Rutgers work for everything, Hopkins should win but Rutgers might have a "fighter's chance". I don't have a strong feeling about this game, but I am not so pessimistic to think we only have an outside shot at a W, if that is what "fighter's chance" implies.

[jhu06]

So watched the OSU Rutgers game last night and didn't see that one coming and not sure how to feel about it. I might have preferred a comfortable Knight victory but now Rutgers' back is against the wall and they will come out flying. IF RU loses they close the season with Maryland and @ Penn State. Cameron's presence or lack thereof is important. For Hopkins, the Rutgers game last year was a low point - defense played OK limiting Rutgers transition and holding them to 35 shots and only 19 on goal but the offense was smurf central - DeSimone/Bauer/Keogh and Angelus all started - and was drecch - 29 shots/14 on goal. It was 3-0 and 9-2 late in the 2nd and was over from that standpoint. The teams won't recognize each other from last year if Rutgers starting line-up is the same as against OSU - Knoblach/Scott and Russo are the only starters from last years game for Rutgers and Angelus/Degnon/Smith and Szuluk are the only ones for Hopkins. The game last year had 41 turnovers and Hopkins was murdered on groundballs - nominal total were Rutgers 39- Hopkins 30 but Narewski had 11 ground balls for Hopkins and Dugenio had 3 so non face-off man gbs were 36-19. Kirst was spotted reading a book in goal last year for all the work Hopkins made him do and Kirson was 37% one of his weakest statistical games. Wahlund was fantastic last night in goal for OSU - made every save he should have to quote Dixie. If Hopkins can get a very soilid performance in goal - flip the ground ball metric and make Rutgers work for everything they might have a fighter's chance. I've stopped thinking about commenting on Hopkins not turning the ball over - it's like telling a kid to clean up his room.
Weathe ris now a high of 73 - showers might be gone but windy - come on Jays fans - show up!

If PM wants more kids at games he can walk across the driveway and introduce himself to the 900 freshmen bunkered there as he should've done the last 2 falls. His 3 assistants certainly know the way. I'm sure there are going to be howls that the hour could be spent wooing a wall street mogul to help pay for nutrition bars, or studying tape to find the secret to unlocking our faceoff issues or even hunting down the elusive attackmen who can fill goals the way HF16 fills forum posts with autocorrects of my posts.

It was weird watching OSU/Rutgers, so many faces and names we've gotten used to are gone.

OSU apparently has a 300 person marching band, separate athletic bands, and a music department. None of them showed up for Meyers-apalooza under the lights on national tv in tee shirt weather to energize their Archie Griffin Griffin loving faithful. Something for the "Hopkins is doomed because the game is growing and our rivals have resources we can't compete with" crowd. The game matters some places and in others it's just another activity.

[51percentcorn]

If Hopkins can get a very solid performance in goal, flip the ground ball metric, and make Rutgers work for everything, Hopkins should win but Rutgers might have a "fighter's chance". I don't have a strong feeling about this game, but I am not so pessimistic to think we only have an outside shot at a W, if that is what "fighter's chance" implies.

Probably didn't word it very well - Hopkins is better than last year - Rutgers may not be and if Cameron does not play they probably are not as good as last year offensively. The game is in Baltimore. But Hopkins is living on the edge - 5 of the last 6 by a total of 12 goals differential. Hopefully that keeps their heads on straight. If they think for a second this one is in the bag because of last night - that's when it'll bite you. The revenge tour needs to continue - they were embarrased last year in NJ and that needs to burn in their minds because Rutgers will be a very desperate team. 0-2 in the BIG with MAryland and a trip to Happy Valley to round out the season is a tough road.

If PM wants more kids at games he can walk across the driveway and introduce himself to the 900 freshmen bunkered there as he should've done the last 2 falls. His 3 assistants certainly know the way. I'm sure there are going to be howls that the hour could be spent wooing a wall street mogul to help pay for nutrition bars, or studying tape to find the secret to unlocking our faceoff issues or even hunting down the elusive attackmen who can fill goals the way HF16 fills forum posts with autocorrects of my posts.

It was weird watching OSU/Rutgers, so many faces and names we've gotten used to are gone.

OSU apparently has a 300 person marching band, separate athletic bands, and a music department. None of them showed up for Meyers-apalooza under the lights on national tv in tee shirt weather to energize their Archie Griffin Griffin loving faithful. Something for the "Hopkins is doomed because the game is growing and our rivals have resources we can't compete with" crowd. The game matters some places and in others it's just another activity.

If students show up it shouldn't be because Milliman or Crawley wandered through the dorms - they shoud do it because it is still the or among the biggest social events at the school and they should want to experience it and support people representing their school - the vast majority of them of which will not make professional money playing the sport. Plus it's a alot of fun. The Hopkins faithful outside of the students need to post as well.

Given what I have heard about the time requirements placed upon big marching band members - especially at Ohio State - I think maybe you're expecting a bit much to see the dotting of the "i" in script Ohio for a lacrosse game. Just can't accept that it is a niche sport huh?

[jhu06]

If Hopkins can get a very solid performance in goal, flip the ground ball metric, and make Rutgers work for everything, Hopkins should win but Rutgers might have a "fighter's chance". I don't have a strong feeling about this game, but I am not so pessimistic to think we only have an outside shot at a W, if that is what "fighter's chance" implies.

Probably didn't word it very well - Hopkins is better than last year - Rutgers may not be and if Cameron does not play they probably are not as good as last year offensively. The game is in Baltimore. But Hopkins is living on the edge - 5 of the last 6 by a total of 12 goals differential. Hopefully that keeps their heads on straight. If they think for a second this one is in the bag because of last night - that's when it'll bite you. The revenge tour needs to continue - they were embarrased last year in NJ and that needs to burn in their minds because Rutgers will be a very desperate team. 0-2 in the BIG with MAryland and a trip to Happy Valley to round out the season is a tough road.

If PM wants more kids at games he can walk across the driveway and introduce himself to the 900 freshmen bunkered there as he should've done the last 2 falls. His 3 assistants certainly know the way. I'm sure there are going to be howls that the hour could be spent wooing a wall street mogul to help pay for nutrition bars, or studying tape to find the secret to unlocking our faceoff issues or even hunting down the elusive attackmen who can fill goals the way HF16 fills forum posts with autocorrects of my posts.

It was weird watching OSU/Rutgers, so many faces and names we've gotten used to are gone.

OSU apparently has a 300 person marching band, separate athletic bands, and a music department. None of them showed up for Meyers-apalooza under the lights on national tv in tee shirt weather to energize their Archie Griffin Griffin loving faithful. Something for the "Hopkins is doomed because the game is growing and our rivals have resources we can't compete with" crowd. The game matters some places and in others it's just another activity.

If students show up it shouldn't be because Milliman or Crawley wandered through the dorms - they shoud do it because it is still the or among the biggest social events at the school and they should want to experience it and support people representing their school - the vast majority of them of which will not make professional money playing the sport. Plus it's a alot of fun. The Hopkins faithful outside of the students need to post as well.

Given what I have heard about the time requirements placed upon big marching band members - especially at Ohio State - I think maybe you're expecting a bit much to see the dotting of the "i" in script Ohio for a lacrosse game. Just can't accept that it is a niche sport huh?

Crawley and co aren't above pressing the flesh with the student body or Hopkins employees. Galloway does a pod every week and bought his students coffee. Jameson's titles were over 15 years ago. He hasn't been a memorial day perennial either as an assistant.

Athletic bands don't march. They play del boca vista happy hour music in polo shirts wearing bucket hats and 40x32 jos a bank pleated khakis. Big difference. And yes if UVA can field a lax band you'd think OSU and Michigan could and should given the schools investments in the programs.

[primitiveskills]

If Hopkins can get a very solid performance in goal, flip the ground ball metric, and make Rutgers work for everything, Hopkins should win but Rutgers might have a "fighter's chance". I don't have a strong feeling about this game, but I am not so pessimistic to think we only have an outside shot at a W, if that is what "fighter's chance" implies.

Probably didn't word it very well - Hopkins is better than last year - Rutgers may not be and if Cameron does not play they probably are not as good as last year offensively. The game is in Baltimore. But Hopkins is living on the edge - 5 of the last 6 by a total of 12 goals differential. Hopefully that keeps their heads on straight. If they think for a second this one is in the bag because of last night - that's when it'll bite you. The revenge tour needs to continue - they were embarrased last year in NJ and that needs to burn in their minds because Rutgers will be a very desperate team. 0-2 in the BIG with MAryland and a trip to Happy Valley to round out the season is a tough road.

If PM wants more kids at games he can walk across the driveway and introduce himself to the 900 freshmen bunkered there as he should've done the last 2 falls. His 3 assistants certainly know the way. I'm sure there are going to be howls that the hour could be spent wooing a wall street mogul to help pay for nutrition bars, or studying tape to find the secret to unlocking our faceoff issues or even hunting down the elusive attackmen who can fill goals the way HF16 fills forum posts with autocorrects of my posts.

It was weird watching OSU/Rutgers, so many faces and names we've gotten used to are gone.

OSU apparently has a 300 person marching band, separate athletic bands, and a music department. None of them showed up for Meyers-apalooza under the lights on national tv in tee shirt weather to energize their Archie Griffin Griffin loving faithful. Something for the "Hopkins is doomed because the game is growing and our rivals have resources we can't compete with" crowd. The game matters some places and in others it's just another activity.

If students show up it shouldn't be because Milliman or Crawley wandered through the dorms - they shoud do it because it is still the or among the biggest social events at the school and they should want to experience it and support people representing their school - the vast majority of them of which will not make professional money playing the sport. Plus it's a alot of fun. The Hopkins faithful outside of the students need to post as well.

Given what I have heard about the time requirements placed upon big marching band members - especially at Ohio State - I think maybe you're expecting a bit much to see the dotting of the "i" in script Ohio for a lacrosse game. Just can't accept that it is a niche sport huh?

Crawley and co aren't above pressing the flesh with the student body or Hopkins employees. Galloway does a pod every week and bought his students coffee. Jameson's titles were over 15 years ago. He hasn't been a memorial day perennial either as an assistant.

Athletic bands don't march. They play del boca vista happy hour music in polo shirts wearing bucket hats and 40x32 jos a bank pleated khakis. Big difference. And yes if UVA can field a lax band you'd think OSU and Michigan could and should given the schools investments in the programs.

Not sure you want to hold up Galloway as your "model coach"

[wgdsr]

If Hopkins can get a very solid performance in goal, flip the ground ball metric, and make Rutgers work for everything, Hopkins should win but Rutgers might have a "fighter's chance". I don't have a strong feeling about this game, but I am not so pessimistic to think we only have an outside shot at a W, if that is what "fighter's chance" implies.

Probably didn't word it very well - Hopkins is better than last year - Rutgers may not be and if Cameron does not play they probably are not as good as last year offensively. The game is in Baltimore. But Hopkins is living on the edge - 5 of the last 6 by a total of 12 goals differential. Hopefully that keeps their heads on straight. If they think for a second this one is in the bag because of last night - that's when it'll bite you. The revenge tour needs to continue - they were embarrased last year in NJ and that needs to burn in their minds because Rutgers will be a very desperate team. 0-2 in the BIG with MAryland and a trip to Happy Valley to round out the season is a tough road.

If PM wants more kids at games he can walk across the driveway and introduce himself to the 900 freshmen bunkered there as he should've done the last 2 falls. His 3 assistants certainly know the way. I'm sure there are going to be howls that the hour could be spent wooing a wall street mogul to help pay for nutrition bars, or studying tape to find the secret to unlocking our faceoff issues or even hunting down the elusive attackmen who can fill goals the way HF16 fills forum posts with autocorrects of my posts.

It was weird watching OSU/Rutgers, so many faces and names we've gotten used to are gone.

OSU apparently has a 300 person marching band, separate athletic bands, and a music department. None of them showed up for Meyers-apalooza under the lights on national tv in tee shirt weather to energize their Archie Griffin Griffin loving faithful. Something for the "Hopkins is doomed because the game is growing and our rivals have resources we can't compete with" crowd. The game matters some places and in others it's just another activity.

If students show up it shouldn't be because Milliman or Crawley wandered through the dorms - they shoud do it because it is still the or among the biggest social events at the school and they should want to experience it and support people representing their school - the vast majority of them of which will not make professional money playing the sport. Plus it's a alot of fun. The Hopkins faithful outside of the students need to post as well.

Given what I have heard about the time requirements placed upon big marching band members - especially at Ohio State - I think maybe you're expecting a bit much to see the dotting of the "i" in script Ohio for a lacrosse game. Just can't accept that it is a niche sport huh?

Crawley and co aren't above pressing the flesh with the student body or Hopkins employees. Galloway does a pod every week and bought his students coffee. Jameson's titles were over 15 years ago. He hasn't been a memorial day perennial either as an assistant.

Athletic bands don't march. They play del boca vista happy hour music in polo shirts wearing bucket hats and 40x32 jos a bank pleated khakis. Big difference. And yes if UVA can field a lax band you'd think OSU and Michigan could and should given the schools investments in the programs.

Not sure you want to hold up Galloway as your "model coach"

not sure what u mean. he bought his students coffee.

[OCanada]

Has this team actually played a "good" game yet? I don't think they have. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Does it mean that they're not actually good or that they haven't yet played up to their potential?

This team fights to the final whistle. We haven’t seen that in a while, frankly. To respond to your question, Blue Jays have not put together four stellar quarters. They have not played a game where they fired on all cylinders. They have never quite performed a complete “A” game.

These Blue Jays can get much better.

Which is very encouraging.

Several aspects of their game have improved compared to the Petro era … gbs, caused turnovers, and now … A RIDE.

The glitches still show from time to time, but this team is developing a real identity and chemistry. They’re aggressive and do the blue collar stuff well … physical, grinding play.

Coaches made some tough adjustments, including a goalie change that proved beneficial. This team actually has some depth now at all positions.

DocBarrister

How did the Petro era win 2 national titles etc. w/o causing turnovers, competing for gbs, riding etc. as you claim, You were around. Your insight would be educational.

With a FO win percentage of 0.597 and a passive position oriented defense that allowed Jesse Schwartzmann to earn a 0.626 save percentage. Causing turnovers wasn’t even an official statistic at the time. Indeed, the NOW LEGENDARY 2005 team lost the turnover battle against their opponents (190 Hopkins turnovers to 164 for their opponents). Just wasn’t their focus (despite Peter LeSueur being excellent on the ride). Remember, one of the foundational principles behind the passive position oriented defense was that modern lacrosse sticks made it futile to try and cause turnovers with stick checks.

https://hopkinssports.com/sports/mens-l ... stats/2005

Plus, it didn’t hurt to have two future hall of famers on the first midfield line.

That was a different time. Even a different Petro era than what came later. It’s no longer enough to force an opposing shooter to his off-hand and have him shoot from 12-15 yards out and depend on your goalie to make the save … plenty of today’s shooters can score like that. Today, defenders always need to be on the shooters hands or body or better yet prevent the shot altogether. Petro’s 2005 defense was actually designed to give up certain shots. Today, you don’t want to give up a shot at all. Get aggressive, cause a turnover, initiate offense.

DocBarrister

So now it was a different time? That is not what you wrote. Back in 2005 you were ragging on an attackman with a broken bone in his foot for his performance. You ignored 2007 and 2003 in your “analysis”. Blinders. Doc Slick. That was sooo facile

[51percentcorn]

Athletic bands don't march. They play del boca vista happy hour music in polo shirts wearing bucket hats and 40x32 jos a bank pleated khakis. Big difference. And yes if UVA can field a lax band you'd think OSU and Michigan could and should given the schools investments in the programs.

youre the one who brought up the OSU marching band not me. I am fully aware of the difference between a marching and an athletic or pep band. I am pretty sure the Ohio State athletic band was in Seattle supporting the OSU women's hoops team as they took down UCON and prevented them from their first round of 8 since 2005. If UVA had been alive in the men's (or women's) tournament the UVA pep band would have been at that regional action and not a lacrosse game.

Does lead me to a question - Hopkins has a very famous school of music in the umbrella. Those kids could learn the 2 school songs and Johhny B Good in probably about 10 minutes - why aren't we gassing up one of the old Goucher run buses - collect 10 or 15 of them - and somehow get them to supplement the band?

[10stone5]

Has this team actually played a "good" game yet? I don't think they have. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Does it mean that they're not actually good or that they haven't yet played up to their potential?

This team fights to the final whistle. We haven’t seen that in a while, frankly. To respond to your question, Blue Jays have not put together four stellar quarters. They have not played a game where they fired on all cylinders. They have never quite performed a complete “A” game.

These Blue Jays can get much better.

Which is very encouraging.

Several aspects of their game have improved compared to the Petro era … gbs, caused turnovers, and now … A RIDE.

The glitches still show from time to time, but this team is developing a real identity and chemistry. They’re aggressive and do the blue collar stuff well … physical, grinding play.

Coaches made some tough adjustments, including a goalie change that proved beneficial. This team actually has some depth now at all positions.

DocBarrister

How did the Petro era win 2 national titles etc. w/o causing turnovers, competing for gbs, riding etc. as you claim, You were around. Your insight would be educational.

With a FO win percentage of 0.597 and a passive position oriented defense that allowed Jesse Schwartzmann to earn a 0.626 save percentage. Causing turnovers wasn’t even an official statistic at the time. Indeed, the NOW LEGENDARY 2005 team lost the turnover battle against their opponents (190 Hopkins turnovers to 164 for their opponents). Just wasn’t their focus (despite Peter LeSueur being excellent on the ride). Remember, one of the foundational principles behind the passive position oriented defense was that modern lacrosse sticks made it futile to try and cause turnovers with stick checks.

https://hopkinssports.com/sports/mens-l ... stats/2005

Plus, it didn’t hurt to have two future hall of famers on the first midfield line.

That was a different time. Even a different Petro era than what came later. It’s no longer enough to force an opposing shooter to his off-hand and have him shoot from 12-15 yards out and depend on your goalie to make the save … plenty of today’s shooters can score like that. Today, defenders always need to be on the shooters hands or body or better yet prevent the shot altogether. Petro’s 2005 defense was actually designed to give up certain shots. Today, you don’t want to give up a shot at all. Get aggressive, cause a turnover, initiate offense.

DocBarrister

So now it was a different time? That is not what you wrote. Back in 2005 you were ragging on an attackman with a broken bone in his foot for his performance. You ignored 2007 and 2003 in your “analysis”. Blinders. Doc Slick. That was sooo facile

Kyle Barrie ?
He was nowhere near the same player that season.

[DocBarrister]

Has this team actually played a "good" game yet? I don't think they have. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Does it mean that they're not actually good or that they haven't yet played up to their potential?

This team fights to the final whistle. We haven’t seen that in a while, frankly. To respond to your question, Blue Jays have not put together four stellar quarters. They have not played a game where they fired on all cylinders. They have never quite performed a complete “A” game.

These Blue Jays can get much better.

Which is very encouraging.

Several aspects of their game have improved compared to the Petro era … gbs, caused turnovers, and now … A RIDE.

The glitches still show from time to time, but this team is developing a real identity and chemistry. They’re aggressive and do the blue collar stuff well … physical, grinding play.

Coaches made some tough adjustments, including a goalie change that proved beneficial. This team actually has some depth now at all positions.

DocBarrister

How did the Petro era win 2 national titles etc. w/o causing turnovers, competing for gbs, riding etc. as you claim, You were around. Your insight would be educational.

With a FO win percentage of 0.597 and a passive position oriented defense that allowed Jesse Schwartzmann to earn a 0.626 save percentage. Causing turnovers wasn’t even an official statistic at the time. Indeed, the NOW LEGENDARY 2005 team lost the turnover battle against their opponents (190 Hopkins turnovers to 164 for their opponents). Just wasn’t their focus (despite Peter LeSueur being excellent on the ride). Remember, one of the foundational principles behind the passive position oriented defense was that modern lacrosse sticks made it futile to try and cause turnovers with stick checks.

https://hopkinssports.com/sports/mens-l ... stats/2005

Plus, it didn’t hurt to have two future hall of famers on the first midfield line.

That was a different time. Even a different Petro era than what came later. It’s no longer enough to force an opposing shooter to his off-hand and have him shoot from 12-15 yards out and depend on your goalie to make the save … plenty of today’s shooters can score like that. Today, defenders always need to be on the shooters hands or body or better yet prevent the shot altogether. Petro’s 2005 defense was actually designed to give up certain shots. Today, you don’t want to give up a shot at all. Get aggressive, cause a turnover, initiate offense.

DocBarrister

So now it was a different time? That is not what you wrote. Back in 2005 you were ragging on an attackman with a broken bone in his foot for his performance. You ignored 2007 and 2003 in your “analysis”. Blinders. Doc Slick. That was sooo facile

I believe you were the @$$hole who ruined my tribute to Peter LeSueur when you misinterpreted my post as a criticism of LeSueur … ironic because LeSueur was my favorite player from the NOW LEGENDARY 2005 team. You have never acknowledged your stupendous f*ck up.

You were an @$$hole then and you’re an @$$hole now. That, at least, has not changed.

DocBarrister

[jhu06]

Young Luke Martin made the Newsday top 100 long island lacrosse players list this morning. One of his brothers currently stars as our ssdm1. Good lacrosse and in particular defensive bloodlines to have.

https://boys.team91lacrosse.com/23-band ... s-hopkins/

[HopFan16]

Ah, we're relitigating the mid 2000s now. Fantastic!

On another note — next time you encounter someone complaining about Hop's deal with ESPN, show them this:

https://twitter.com/quickstickblog/stat ... 5010257920

Hopkins/Michigan and Hopkins/UNC are the two highest-rated TV broadcasts of the season. Sometimes you'll see people saying Hop needs the Big Ten to stay relevant, but has anyone considered the possibility that it's the other way around? Makes you think.