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jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

What does that have to do with being “well off”?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

What does that have to do with being “well off”?

Nothing, it's just more trolling and trying to get a rise out of someone. Imagine having so warped of a world view that you think a forum full of right-wingers and moderates and a comparative minority of liberals is some Democratic bastion.

And as far as Johnny Weir goes, also imagine thinking that is an actual insult in 2020. A guy with 3 national championships to his name (individual no less, not a team sport), a junior world championship, and who was a two-time Olympian. He has more athletic talent, strength, and confidence in his "girly" pinky finger than PB could ever amount to. Weir's style and broadcasting isn't really interesting to me either way, but damn if I don't respect him for being himself.

And as far as the continued "girly" insults that were popular in 1993, PB doth protest too much, methinks . Some very, very repressed feelings there.

holmes435 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:45 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

What does that have to do with being “well off”?

Nothing, it's just more trolling and trying to get a rise out of someone. Imagine having so warped of a world view that you think a forum full of right-wingers and moderates and a comparative minority of liberals is some Democratic bastion.

And as far as Johnny Weir goes, also imagine thinking that is an actual insult in 2020. A guy with 3 national championships to his name (individual no less, not a team sport), a junior world championship, and who was a two-time Olympian. He has more athletic talent, strength, and confidence in his "girly" pinky finger than PB could ever amount to. Weir's style and broadcasting isn't really interesting to me either way, but damn if I don't respect him for being himself.

And as far as the continued "girly" insults that were popular in 1993, PB doth protest too much, methinks . Some very, very repressed feelings there.

My guess is that PB has little competitive athletic experience.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

What does that have to do with being “well off”?

Who said anything about “well off”?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:21 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

What does that have to do with being “well off”?

Who said anything about “well off”?

The sport of Lacrosse or something else?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:28 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:21 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

What does that have to do with being “well off”?

Who said anything about “well off”?

The sport of Lacrosse or something else?

I meant 'real men', ie: Republicans, strong independent thoughtful leaders not prone to girlish exaggeration and hysteria like Democratic men, hence my Johnny Weir analogy. If the Dow eclipsed 29,000, the expected hysteria and exaggeration of some here would be Orange Man Bad and who cares and no one owns stocks anyway and so forth. I wasn't thinking anything about anyone's underlying economic conditions.

Are you in the habit of putting words in other people's mouths?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:41 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:28 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:21 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:35 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm Dow inching close to 29,000.

All time high before 11-3?

That’d bum out some Fanlax Dems. Oh well.

How many on this LACROSSE forum are going to cry if the Dow hits 29,000? Seriously, this is a lacrosse forum.....

... let me take a wild guess, say ZERO.

It’s a “lacrosse” forum.

For a lacrosse forum, there are way too many whiny girly Democrats here. Starting to think I accidentally started posting on a ‘male’ ice skating forum. Way too many Johnny Weir Democrats here.

What does that have to do with being “well off”?

Who said anything about “well off”?

The sport of Lacrosse or something else?

I meant 'real men', ie: Republicans, strong independent thoughtful leaders not prone to girlish exaggeration and hysteria like Democratic men, hence my Johnny Weir analogy. If the Dow eclipsed 29,000, the expected hysteria and exaggeration of some here would be Orange Man Bad and who cares and no one owns stocks anyway and so forth. I wasn't thinking anything about anyone's underlying economic conditions.

Are you in the habit of putting words in other people's mouths?

I see it’s hard for you to maintain a train of thought....have a happy Friday.

If Petey isn't enough of an example to avoid Florida because the water makes you stupid - even Tom Brady turned into Florida Man and forgot how to count last night.

Larry Kudlow is the man.

More money for NOTHING!!!

Trump Funnels Record Subsidies to Farmers Ahead of Election Day
Despite an extraordinary government bailout, America’s agriculture sector remains under severe economic pressure.


The agriculture sector, which has been hurt by President Trump’s trade war and the pandemic, is expected to receive a total of approximately $46 billion in federal subsidies this year.
By Alan Rappeport
Oct. 12, 2020

WASHINGTON — For the American farmers President Trump counts on for support, the government money is flowing faster than ever.

Federal payments to farmers are projected to hit a record $46 billion this year as the White House funnels money to Mr. Trump’s rural base in the South and Midwest ahead of Election Day.

The gush of funds has accelerated in recent weeks as the president looks to help his core supporters who have been hit hard by the double whammy of his combative trade practices and the coronavirus pandemic. According to the American Farm Bureau, debt in the farm sector is projected to increase by 4 percent to a record $434 billion this year and farm bankruptcies have continued to rise across the country.

Farmers are not the only constituency benefiting from the president’s largess: He has promised $200 prescription drug cards to millions of seniors, approved $13 billion in aid to Puerto Rico, which could help his prospects in Florida, and he directed his Agriculture Department include letters signed by him in millions of food aid boxes that are being distributed to the poor.

Millions of food aid boxes that are being distributed include letters bearing President Trump’s signature.

But few have gotten more help than the agriculture sector, which this year is expected to receive the largest government contribution to farm income since its previous record in 2005, according to the University of Missouri’s Food and Agricultural Policy Research Institute. The breadth of the payments means that government support will account for about 40 percent of total farm income this year. If not for those subsidies, U.S. farm income would be poised to decline in 2020.

“There are both economic and political motivations for these payments,” said Patrick Westhoff, who directs University of Missouri’s agriculture research center.

Last week, the Office of Special Counsel determined that Mr. Trump’s Agriculture secretary, Sonny Perdue, had improperly used his position to push the president’s re-election by promising more help for farmers. At an August event in North Carolina, Mr. Perdue violated ethics laws when he promoted Mr. Trump’s re-election during remarks about the Farmers to Families Food Box Program, saying: “That’s what’s going to continue to happen — four more years — if America gets out and votes for this man, Donald J. Trump.”

Mr. Perdue has been ordered to reimburse the government for the costs associated with his attendance at the event. In its response to the Office of Special Counsel, the Agriculture Department said that Mr. Perdue did not “encourage attendees to vote for a candidate or party or advocate for a partisan political group.”

More money for farmers will soon be on the way. Congress recently agreed to replenish an Agriculture Department fund that Mr. Trump has used to disburse nearly $30 billion to farmers at his discretion with tens of billions of additional dollars. The Trump administration negotiated with Democrats to ensure the money was included in a short-term bill to fund the federal government, with the White House agreeing to more funds for child nutritional assistance in exchange.

Farmers have been clobbered financially during the last two years, as Mr. Trump’s trade wars with China and Europe led to tariffs on American agricultural exports, including corn, soybeans, lobsters and peanuts. Then, this year, the pandemic interfered with global supply chains, and restaurant and hotel closures sapped demand. Farmers were forced to dump milk into manure pits and destroy millions of pounds of beans and cabbage.

“Nearly every major sector of the farm economy will have lower cash receipts this year compared to last year, and total cash receipts will be the lowest since 2010,” John Newton, the American Farm Bureau’s chief economist, wrote in a report on the state of the industry last month.

The desire to help struggling farmers is bipartisan, but Democrats and critics of the aid programs have argued that the money has been paid out unevenly by the Trump administration and with the intent of currying favor with a politically important constituency in swing states.

“For the first time in history, a president has repeatedly usurped congressional authority in order to personally dispense tens of billions of dollars in federal farm subsidy payments that would not otherwise have been paid,” said Ken Cook, president of Environmental Working Group, an advocacy organization that has been tracking the agriculture payments. “This is an authoritarian power grab used to buy political support from voters who are essential to his re-election.”

The president has only reinforced those concerns. At a September campaign rally in Wisconsin, a big farm state, Mr. Trump announced that an additional $13 billion in aid would soon be paid out through the Commodity Credit Corporation, a pot of money that the Trump administration had used to provide financial help to farmers suffering from retaliatory tariffs placed on American products.

“I’m proud to announce that I’m doing even more to support Wisconsin farmers,” Mr. Trump said, adding that some of that money would go to dairy, cranberry and ginseng farmers in the state that have been hurt by the coronavirus pandemic.

Not all farmers received special payouts during the last three years, but the Trump administration has recently moved to ensure that those in critical states do not miss out.
The administration’s efforts have not erased the economic malaise and frustration among America’s farmers, who have seen sales fall and bankruptcies rise. The overall payouts have been large, but they have not always gone to the farmers who need them most. Critics, including both Democrat and Republican lawmakers, have argued that small farmers have missed out on the bulk of the bailout, while large and some foreign-owned farms have benefited.

A Government Accountability Office report in September added to suspicions among Democrats that $14.5 billion of farm aid from 2019 was being allocated with politics in mind. The report found that the bulk of the money went to big farms in the Midwest and southern states, including Mr. Perdue’s home state of Georgia.

“I do not believe that this president has been a true friend to farmers,” said Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, the top Democrat on the Senate’s agriculture committee, who accused Mr. Trump of “subverting the law” in the way he had doled out farm aid.

In a statement, Mr. Perdue denied that the money was being deployed for political purposes.

“President Trump is once again demonstrating his commitment to ensure America’s farmers and ranchers remain in business to produce the food, fuel, and fiber America needs to thrive,” he said.

Mr. Trump appears to have kept much of his farm support intact. A September poll from DTN/Progressive Farmer/Zogby Analytics found that 53 percent of rural adults approved of his handling of the job, about 10 percentage points higher than his national approval rating.

It is not clear if that will be enough, however, given some bailout recipients remain unhappy with Mr. Trump’s trade policies.

Tobacco farms, like this one in North Carolina, will be eligible for federal aid after the Agriculture Department moved money into an account that can legally subsidize the crop.C

Graham Boyd, the executive vice president of the Tobacco Growers Association of North Carolina, secured subsidies for his crops after his group and lobbyists from other tobacco growing states demonstrated to the Agriculture Department that farmers were losing hundreds of millions of dollars per year in lost exports to China. North Carolina is America’s largest tobacco growing state and China was its biggest customer, but since 2018 Beijing has not bought American tobacco.

“I think all of agriculture, and tobacco, are frustrated with the ongoing trade dispute,” Mr. Boyd said in an interview. “It’s not resolved.”

While the new subsidies will be welcome, Mr. Boyd noted that they would only amount to $10,000 to $20,000 per tobacco farmer.

“One hundred percent of these dollars will go to service debt,” he said.

To some small farmers, hearing about the big government subsidies without seeing meaningful payments firsthand only makes matters worse.

Joel Greeno, a Wisconsin farmer who switched from dairy to raising cattle, said that despite the big headline aid numbers it was a myth that the Trump administration had really helped small farms stay afloat. He said that most of it is going to rich landowners and corporate agriculture companies.

“Even though society believes that these programs that help farmers, the money very rarely gets to farmers,” said Mr. Greeno, who is also president of the Family Farm Defenders organization. “Rural America is not seeing that money because it’s not getting here.”

CU88 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:33 am More money for NOTHING!!!

Trump Funnels Record Subsidies to Farmers Ahead of Election Day
Despite an extraordinary government bailout, America’s agriculture sector remains under severe economic pressure.


The agriculture sector, which has been hurt by President Trump’s trade war and the pandemic, is expected to receive a total of approximately $46 billion in federal subsidies this year.
By Alan Rappeport
Oct. 12, 2020

WASHINGTON — For the American farmers President Trump counts on for support, the government money is flowing faster than ever.

Federal payments to farmers are projected to hit a record $46 billion this year as the White House funnels money to Mr. Trump’s rural base in the South and Midwest ahead of Election Day.
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No duh....there are few(er) places to send all their products....in this country alone. Not defending Trump, just using common sense, instead of the partisan scoreboard.

Great article in the Verge about the con that is the deal Scott Walker and Donald Trump made with Foxconn over the non-existent factory built in SE WI.

https://www.theverge.com/21507966/foxco ... hole-trump

In 2017, President Donald Trump and the Wisconsin GOP struck a deal with Foxconn that promised to turn Southeastern Wisconsin into a tech manufacturing powerhouse.
In exchange for billions in tax subsidies, Foxconn was supposed to build an enormous LCD factory in the tiny village of Mount Pleasant, creating 13,000 jobs.
Three years later, the factory — and the jobs — don’t exist, and they probably never will.
Inside the empty promises and empty buildings of Wisconn Valley.
The 8th wonder of the world*
*wonder not guaranteed

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:45 am Great article in the Verge about the con that is the deal Scott Walker and Donald Trump made with Foxconn over the non-existent factory built in SE WI.

https://www.theverge.com/21507966/foxco ... hole-trump

In 2017, President Donald Trump and the Wisconsin GOP struck a deal with Foxconn that promised to turn Southeastern Wisconsin into a tech manufacturing powerhouse.
In exchange for billions in tax subsidies, Foxconn was supposed to build an enormous LCD factory in the tiny village of Mount Pleasant, creating 13,000 jobs.
Three years later, the factory — and the jobs — don’t exist, and they probably never will.
Inside the empty promises and empty buildings of Wisconn Valley.
The 8th wonder of the world*
*wonder not guaranteed

DEPLORABLES DONT CARE!

Remember when IMPOTUS o d claimed to have opened an Apple manufacturing plant in Texas to build Mac Pros. In reality, Apple has been building the Mac Pro at the same location since 2013.

It's a meme yes, but it's true. Still waiting on any meaningful legislation and reaching across the aisle like the hapless Democrats tried with the ACA

holmes435 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:28 am

It's a meme yes, but it's true. Still waiting on any meaningful legislation and reaching across the aisle like the hapless Democrats tried with the ACA

What was hapless here is how the democrats cobbled together a dysfunctional poorly written and implemented program. Maybe the dumbasses should have read it first before they passed it?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:29 am What was hapless here is how the democrats cobbled together a dysfunctional poorly written and implemented program. Maybe the dumbasses should have read it first before they passed it?

I suppose that's what you get when you go with a Republican idea in the first place, then give away hundreds of concessions and deals to Republicans to try to get them on board, but they still hold their nose and say "we don't want to be a part of this".

As a small business owner, I've been on the ACA since 2014. Aside from spending a few minutes figuring out the application the first time, it's been smooth sailing as far as getting coverage every year since then. The private coverage itself is another issue...

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:29 am

holmes435 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:28 am

It's a meme yes, but it's true. Still waiting on any meaningful legislation and reaching across the aisle like the hapless Democrats tried with the ACA

What was hapless here is how the democrats cobbled together a dysfunctional poorly written and implemented program. Maybe the dumbasses should have read it first before they passed it?

And yet, Trump has done nothing to improve nor replace ACA.

The other big initiative was the tax cuts, which were clearly highly regressive.

Unemployment has been on a consistent decline -
9.3% (12/10) to 4.7% (01/17). Since Trump took office, it reach a low of 3.5% (2/20)

Trump's pre-Covid GDP (12 quarters) averaged 2.5%....BHO's last 12 quarters average 2.4%.

The supposedly conservative Rs have proven they are anything but fiscally conservative.

Debt 2008 - $10.7
Debt 2012 - $15.7T...increase of 50%
Debt 2016 - $20.5T...increase of 30%
Debt 2020 - $27.1T....increase of 35%

holmes435 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:47 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:29 am What was hapless here is how the democrats cobbled together a dysfunctional poorly written and implemented program. Maybe the dumbasses should have read it first before they passed it?

I suppose that's what you get when you go with a Republican idea in the first place, then give away hundreds of concessions and deals to Republicans to try to get them on board, but they still hold their nose and say "we don't want to be a part of this".

As a small business owner, I've been on the ACA since 2014. Aside from spending a few minutes figuring out the application the first time, it's been smooth sailing as far as getting coverage every year since then. The private coverage itself is another issue...

Come on, stop pulling my leg. The most high profile FLP legislation to come down the pike in decades. Your trying to tell me the Democrats are going to hand that policy decision over to the Republicans? that's a good one. What next, the Democrats will let the Republicans take over planned parenthood next. your quite the comedian there Holmes.