Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:57 am
A wealth of climate info:
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Sounds like an excuse. Is she at Oberlin protesting to get paid to protest?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:53 pm So how will they be enticed to chase the brass ring?
‘The Greek word neo means “young, new”. We can thus coin a word, neocide, meaning “the deliberate killing of young people and future generations”.‘
P.S. Forget about Social Security — we’ll be lucky to dodge the gibbet.
How much did your wind turbine system cost? You think it is a viable option for the average middle class American? Hell a geothermal system for heating would be the cats ass for all if us. I believe the estimate for retrofitting an existing house is about 20 to 50 grand. Not exactly chicken feed.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:07 pm For those interested in doing something that is within your control that would help tremendously.
How to beat climate change.
My wife and I are largely already there. Every appliance is electric. Primary power is wind turbine supplied by utility company. No gas, no wood, no oil for heating, cooking, etc. Backup generator is tri-fuel, non-renewable energy whole house, but is hardly ever used. Our sole deficiency is our cars. Both are fuel efficient, well maintained decade+ old. I hardly ever use mine, my wife's is our primary auto, a RAV 4 with a quarter million miles on it. Next auto will be electric to replace the RAV 4, will probably never replace mine.
This is not virtue signaling, it is just an illustration of how straight forward it is to do something that makes sense for the planet. You are participating in a workable plan that will help the planet.
... The power is wind turbine owned by the utility company. They sell shares of the output and bill you monthly, just like your normal electric bill. They have a mix of sources, you can choose from. This is not a play to get the cheapest energy, although that will likely be how it ends up. They move into renewables as the customer demand supports it. We have been doing this for 3 or 4 years. When we switched to this plan it was cheaper than our local fossil fuel energy supplier. Out local fossil fuel supplier is the distributor, but the energy is supplied by a separate company. We are billed by the local network owner, our original fossil fuel supplier. The energy supplier gets paid by the power distributor.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:17 pmHow much did your wind turbine system cost? You think it is a viable option for the average middle class American? Hell a geothermal system for heating would be the cats ass for all if us. I believe the estimate for retrofitting an existing house is about 20 to 50 grand. Not exactly chicken feed.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:07 pm For those interested in doing something that is within your control that would help tremendously.
How to beat climate change.
My wife and I are largely already there. Every appliance is electric. Primary power is wind turbine supplied by utility company. No gas, no wood, no oil for heating, cooking, etc. Backup generator is tri-fuel, non-renewable energy whole house, but is hardly ever used. Our sole deficiency is our cars. Both are fuel efficient, well maintained decade+ old. I hardly ever use mine, my wife's is our primary auto, a RAV 4 with a quarter million miles on it. Next auto will be electric to replace the RAV 4, will probably never replace mine.
This is not virtue signaling, it is just an illustration of how straight forward it is to do something that makes sense for the planet. You are participating in a workable plan that will help the planet.
Wind isn’t that easy everywhere. Read an interview w CEO of Southern Co and they have to import wind generated power from the Midwest. Solar panels have a near 20yr payback just not worth it for the upfront cost now that subsidies have shrunk to very little. My office is less than 2mi from my house, getting rid of it end of year anyway, but I can ride a bike at my laptops in a backpack to driving is only for road trips at this point. Got nest thermostats. That’s the extent of me doing my part for now.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:07 pm For those interested in doing something that is within your control that would help tremendously.
How to beat climate change.
My wife and I are largely already there. Every appliance is electric. Primary power is wind turbine supplied by utility company. No gas, no wood, no oil for heating, cooking, etc. Backup generator is tri-fuel, non-renewable energy whole house, but is hardly ever used. Our sole deficiency is our cars. Both are fuel efficient, well maintained decade+ old. I hardly ever use mine, my wife's is our primary auto, a RAV 4 with a quarter million miles on it. Next auto will be electric to replace the RAV 4, will probably never replace mine.
This is not virtue signaling, it is just an illustration of how straight forward it is to do something that makes sense for the planet. You are participating in a workable plan that will help the planet.
The UK went from 40% coal-powered energy to just 2% in a decade. The UK plans to end all coal-generated power in 2024.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:28 pmWind isn’t that easy everywhere. Read an interview w CEO of Southern Co and they have to import wind generated power from the Midwest. Solar panels have a near 20yr payback just not worth it for the upfront cost now that subsidies have shrunk to very little. My office is less than 2mi from my house, getting rid of it end of year anyway, but I can ride a bike at my laptops in a backpack to driving is only for road trips at this point. Got nest thermostats. That’s the extent of me doing my part for now.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:07 pm For those interested in doing something that is within your control that would help tremendously.
How to beat climate change.
My wife and I are largely already there. Every appliance is electric. Primary power is wind turbine supplied by utility company. No gas, no wood, no oil for heating, cooking, etc. Backup generator is tri-fuel, non-renewable energy whole house, but is hardly ever used. Our sole deficiency is our cars. Both are fuel efficient, well maintained decade+ old. I hardly ever use mine, my wife's is our primary auto, a RAV 4 with a quarter million miles on it. Next auto will be electric to replace the RAV 4, will probably never replace mine.
This is not virtue signaling, it is just an illustration of how straight forward it is to do something that makes sense for the planet. You are participating in a workable plan that will help the planet.
- no question availability and prices will vary by region and power company at this time. The key point is that renewable will be coming into the house at a good price as we move forward. Timing will vary, but the network will deliver it with declining prices. Tie-ing in homeowner owned power generation of all types will be handled by the distribution grid with sell back to the grid. Biden's plan is aligned to support this type of go forward plan. If you stick with electric appliances for heating, cooking, hot water, etc., you should have no problem. Driving down energy usage will be the job of industry making more efficient electrical appliances. It is a sustainable design. Fossil fuel delivery (pipes) to the home will ultimately go away most likely.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:28 pmWind isn’t that easy everywhere. Read an interview w CEO of Southern Co and they have to import wind generated power from the Midwest. Solar panels have a near 20yr payback just not worth it for the upfront cost now that subsidies have shrunk to very little. My office is less than 2mi from my house, getting rid of it end of year anyway, but I can ride a bike at my laptops in a backpack to driving is only for road trips at this point. Got nest thermostats. That’s the extent of me doing my part for now.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:07 pm For those interested in doing something that is within your control that would help tremendously.
How to beat climate change.
My wife and I are largely already there. Every appliance is electric. Primary power is wind turbine supplied by utility company. No gas, no wood, no oil for heating, cooking, etc. Backup generator is tri-fuel, non-renewable energy whole house, but is hardly ever used. Our sole deficiency is our cars. Both are fuel efficient, well maintained decade+ old. I hardly ever use mine, my wife's is our primary auto, a RAV 4 with a quarter million miles on it. Next auto will be electric to replace the RAV 4, will probably never replace mine.
This is not virtue signaling, it is just an illustration of how straight forward it is to do something that makes sense for the planet. You are participating in a workable plan that will help the planet.
I can't use a electric stovetop, sorry. Thought the solar panel prices would get more market competitive by now but they haven't.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:25 pm- no question availability and prices will vary by region and power company at this time. The key point is that renewable will be coming into the house at a good price as we move forward. Timing will vary, but the network will deliver it with declining prices. Tie-ing in homeowner owned power generation of all types will be handled by the distribution grid with sell back to the grid. Biden's plan is aligned to support this type of go forward plan. If you stick with electric appliances for heating, cooking, hot water, etc., you should have no problem. Driving down energy usage will be the job of industry making more efficient electrical appliances. It is a sustainable design. Fossil fuel delivery (pipes) to the home will ultimately go away most likely.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:28 pmWind isn’t that easy everywhere. Read an interview w CEO of Southern Co and they have to import wind generated power from the Midwest. Solar panels have a near 20yr payback just not worth it for the upfront cost now that subsidies have shrunk to very little. My office is less than 2mi from my house, getting rid of it end of year anyway, but I can ride a bike at my laptops in a backpack to driving is only for road trips at this point. Got nest thermostats. That’s the extent of me doing my part for now.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:07 pm For those interested in doing something that is within your control that would help tremendously.
How to beat climate change.
My wife and I are largely already there. Every appliance is electric. Primary power is wind turbine supplied by utility company. No gas, no wood, no oil for heating, cooking, etc. Backup generator is tri-fuel, non-renewable energy whole house, but is hardly ever used. Our sole deficiency is our cars. Both are fuel efficient, well maintained decade+ old. I hardly ever use mine, my wife's is our primary auto, a RAV 4 with a quarter million miles on it. Next auto will be electric to replace the RAV 4, will probably never replace mine.
This is not virtue signaling, it is just an illustration of how straight forward it is to do something that makes sense for the planet. You are participating in a workable plan that will help the planet.
Have you tried induction? Skeptical at first, but now sold on it. You may have to buy some new pans, but it heats fast and has quite a bit of temperature control. Used just a cast iron skillet and dutch oven for w few months when we first got it. Added other pans as needed.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:31 pmI can't use a electric stovetop, sorry. Thought the solar panel prices would get more market competitive by now but they haven't.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:25 pm- no question availability and prices will vary by region and power company at this time. The key point is that renewable will be coming into the house at a good price as we move forward. Timing will vary, but the network will deliver it with declining prices. Tie-ing in homeowner owned power generation of all types will be handled by the distribution grid with sell back to the grid. Biden's plan is aligned to support this type of go forward plan. If you stick with electric appliances for heating, cooking, hot water, etc., you should have no problem. Driving down energy usage will be the job of industry making more efficient electrical appliances. It is a sustainable design. Fossil fuel delivery (pipes) to the home will ultimately go away most likely.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:28 pmWind isn’t that easy everywhere. Read an interview w CEO of Southern Co and they have to import wind generated power from the Midwest. Solar panels have a near 20yr payback just not worth it for the upfront cost now that subsidies have shrunk to very little. My office is less than 2mi from my house, getting rid of it end of year anyway, but I can ride a bike at my laptops in a backpack to driving is only for road trips at this point. Got nest thermostats. That’s the extent of me doing my part for now.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:07 pm For those interested in doing something that is within your control that would help tremendously.
How to beat climate change.
My wife and I are largely already there. Every appliance is electric. Primary power is wind turbine supplied by utility company. No gas, no wood, no oil for heating, cooking, etc. Backup generator is tri-fuel, non-renewable energy whole house, but is hardly ever used. Our sole deficiency is our cars. Both are fuel efficient, well maintained decade+ old. I hardly ever use mine, my wife's is our primary auto, a RAV 4 with a quarter million miles on it. Next auto will be electric to replace the RAV 4, will probably never replace mine.
This is not virtue signaling, it is just an illustration of how straight forward it is to do something that makes sense for the planet. You are participating in a workable plan that will help the planet.
CEO of BofA made a statement that the public sector can't handle the transformation away from fossil fuels and hes probably right. Has to come from private capital.
I pitched to my sister for her very modest retirement account that she look at Nextera, formerly Florida Power and Light. They were an early adopter of renewables in their generation portfolio as a consolidated energy provider (as you've noted there's been largely a separation of the highly regulated T&D and generation in many areas of the country, mostly in the 90s and early 2000s I believe). I still think there's an appropriate place for Nuclear in the overall portfolio.