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Cagekeeper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:36 pm

Cletus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:46 pm Don’t let anybody intimidate you, Cagekeeper. Your opinions are just as relevant and valuable as anyone else in this forum.

Not intimidated at all. And I’m not saying anyone would transfer. Had spallina gotten the job I know some would have. My point was, KT will be eager to prove herself. And some may not be as eager as others to put the work in

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:57 pm

Cagekeeper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:36 pm

Cletus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:46 pm Don’t let anybody intimidate you, Cagekeeper. Your opinions are just as relevant and valuable as anyone else in this forum.

Not intimidated at all. And I’m not saying anyone would transfer. Had spallina gotten the job I know some would have. My point was, KT will be eager to prove herself. And some may not be as eager as others to put the work in

Why would you suggest this? Do you think KT will be more physically demanding than Gary? That her desire to prove herself is greater than GG’s desire to win? I guess I don’t see it. You will always have players that decide the work is not worth it but after coming up 1 game short of the National Championship everyone knows the work needed to be put in.

Cagekeeper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:00 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:57 pm

Cagekeeper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:36 pm

Cletus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:46 pm Don’t let anybody intimidate you, Cagekeeper. Your opinions are just as relevant and valuable as anyone else in this forum.

Not intimidated at all. And I’m not saying anyone would transfer. Had spallina gotten the job I know some would have. My point was, KT will be eager to prove herself. And some may not be as eager as others to put the work in

Why would you suggest this? Do you think KT will be more physically demanding than Gary? That her desire to prove herself is greater than GG’s desire to win? I guess I don’t see it. You will always have players that decide the work is not worth it but after coming up 1 game short of the National Championship everyone knows the work needed to be put in.

Yes I do think that she will be more physically Demanding. I think that if you watch the press conference she clearly says this team needs more discipline. And I believe that if a player is not working too hard potential that she will make adjustments were maybe there haven’t been any.

LarryGamLax wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:39 pm

Cagekeeper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:36 pm

Cletus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:46 pm Don’t let anybody intimidate you, Cagekeeper. Your opinions are just as relevant and valuable as anyone else in this forum.

Not intimidated at all. And I’m not saying anyone would transfer. Had spallina gotten the job I know some would have. My point was, KT will be eager to prove herself. And some may not be as eager as others to put the work in

Why do you think players would have transferred out if Joe Spallina had become the HC?

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:55 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

Oh, I am aware there have been others hired at this age. That is the entire point of my post. How does that happen in this sport and not others? And I understand AWW and KAH have had success. How has it worked out for Shannon Smith at Hofstra?

I guess I have just always viewed sports as the ultimate meritocracy. A place where you have to earn it. Climb the ladder. Particularly college athletics. Maybe I am just the old man yelling get off my lawn. But, if I am a successful head coach in my 30s/40s/50s who applied for this position and didn't get it, I would have to be slightly bitter.

Cagekeeper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:01 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:55 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

Oh, I am aware there have been others hired at this age. That is the entire point of my post. How does that happen in this sport and not others? And I understand AWW and KAH have had success. How has it worked out for Shannon Smith at Hofstra?

I guess I have just always viewed sports as the ultimate meritocracy. A place where you have to earn it. Climb the ladder. Particularly college athletics. Maybe I am just the old man yelling get off my lawn. But, if I am a successful head coach in my 30s/40s/50s who applied for this position and didn't get it, I would have to be slightly bitter.

Why would you be bitter? Maybe KT is just a better fit. And has the ability to get the job done while connecting with her team. AWW had a baby strapped to her for god sake and still kicked ass.

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:06 pm If I were an accomplished head coach and I was in the running for this job, I would be bitter because a young woman five years out of college who had never sat in the boss' chair got a top 5 head coaching job...but thats just me. It has nothing to do with it being KT. Like I said, I don't know her. Never met her. Am sure she is great. Just merely talking about resumes, experience, job selection process, and the unique culture in women's lacrosse that seemingly doesn't exist in any other sport.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

laxlaxlax wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:23 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

KAH took over a brand new program didn’t she that hadn’t been a varsity sport for 10 years?

AWW had 7 years of coaching experience before the BC head coach job I think - some of which was as the Associate Head Coach of that program.

Appreciate the age comparison is valid, but not sure the scenarios are comparable to KT stepping into the Cuse position with a history of being a ranked team and just making a national championship game.

Not a slight on KT, just wanted to bring some perspective as I think LaxPundit’s viewpoint and question is fair!

laxlaxlax wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:23 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

KAH took over a brand new program didn’t she that hadn’t been a varsity sport for 10 years?

AWW had 7 years of coaching experience before the BC head coach job I think - some of which was as the Associate Head Coach of that program.

Appreciate the age comparison is valid, but not sure the scenarios are comparable to KT stepping into the Cuse position with a history of being a ranked team and just making a national championship game.

Not a slight on KT, just wanted to bring some perspective as I think LaxPundit’s viewpoint and question is fair!

laxlaxlax wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:23 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:11 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 pm I am sure people will say I am attacking her character; I am not. I am sure some people will say I am being misogynistic. I am not.

How does an ACC school that just played in the national championship game justify hiring a 27 year old with no head coaching experience? Would this happen in football, men’s/women’s basketball, softball/baseball, etc.?

I don’t know KT. I am sure she is great and she may do a fantastic job. But, I don’t understand how these hires are made in the first place. The bottom of the release says pending board approval. Does anyone on the board read her resume and say “how old is she? She has never been a head coach? Would we tenure a professor that just finished graduate school?”

This type of job is a dream job in other sports. A top five program nationally in a Power 5 conference. Most assistants in other sports work their whole careers to get these gigs. How did this become an acceptable thing in women’s lax, but not elsewhere?

Excellent question.

You could ask BC who hired AWW at 28 or NW who hired KAH at 26 I believe. They would certainly give you a better answer than anyone on these boards.

KAH took over a brand new program didn’t she that hadn’t been a varsity sport for 10 years?

AWW had 7 years of coaching experience before the BC head coach job I think - some of which was as the Associate Head Coach of that program.

Appreciate the age comparison is valid, but not sure the scenarios are comparable to KT stepping into the Cuse position with a history of being a ranked team and just making a national championship game.

Not a slight on KT, just wanted to bring some perspective as I think LaxPundit’s viewpoint and question is fair!

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:44 pm It is a fair question to ask. From a quick look at the ACC it looks as if Levy, Meyers, AWW now KT all got gigs w/o HC experience. Kimmel started her career as Davidsons Head coach right out of the gate, did that for a year then moved to Duke. So it appears these hiring practices are nothing new.