Voting

[kramerica.inc]

Dominion systems acting up on certain machines, nationally: https://www.wlns.com/your-local-electio ... ing-issue/

And some of the rocket scientists on this forum scratch their ass while sounding confused as to why voters question the integrity of our voting system.

Unless you two morons have $787.5 million rattling around in the couch cushions, maybe it would be wise to STFU.

So know posting voting news, in the Voting thread, is bad.....The party of Unity says STFU; well played.

Just trying to help you guys save a few hundred million.

But it is a free country. Keep running your mouth and spewing complete garbage bull shirt.

As you MAGA morons like to say — fork around and find out.

Spewing complete garbage bs? How?

The lady who said the machines have issues is extremely reputable. And definitely not a MAGA supporter.

This was her quote-

“Yeah, this is a nationwide issue with Dominion voter access terminals in, in the counties that use them in the voter access terminals,” says Benson. “Of course, not all the machines, just the ones that are accessible, have an issue. With the straight-party voting and a programming issue, that’s again affected the machines nationwide.”

Is there a reason not to believe the news outlet mentioned?

Fox's behavior doesn't mean the reporting of current and future Dominion issues is verboten.

In fact, I'd say Dominion's litigious nature probably means news outlets are now more likely to really cross their Ts and dot their I's when they report on Dominion voting problems.

Good lord, the issue is only with the Voter Assist Terminals used solely by people with particular disabilities. It does not cast wrong votes, rather it fails to register certain kinds of voter pattern choices (unrelated to particular party), ie they choose 'straight party' but then decide to split their ticket, they get an error statement..the voter knows its failed and it's a pain in the butt to get it right, but there's no false votes cast nor are there votes missed.

If a VAT user votes straight party and then splits their ticket, they will receive an error message—but will have the chance to fix it and still cast a ballot. While this does not change who or what a voter would cast their ballot for, it will make the process more inconvenient for VAT users who vote split-ticket.

Why pretend this is an actual issue in integrity of the vote or suggests something nefarious?

Maybe that wasn't your intent, Kram?
But as usual cradle chimed in predictably and it became "two morons"...

When state gov't officials start admitting to news outlets that certain anomalies, irregularities and issues need to be "corrected" and "fixed" on voting machines, it doesn't inspire confidence.

In business, the appearance of conflicts of interest have the same effect as REAL conflicts of interest.

The same is true in elections with minor and major voting irregularities. They both have the same effect of undermining election integrity.

[ggait]

The same is true in elections with minor and major voting irregularities. They both have the same effect of undermining election integrity.

Bull shirt. Utter bull shirt.

What undermines election integrity is the MAGAs (and the GOP more generally) lying about non-existent to extremely minor/overblown items. For example, GOP election law Ben Ginsberg joined fellow conservatives in co-authoring a report that examined 2020 election lawsuits:

“The evidence to back up the allegations of fraud and elections being unreliable simply does not exist,” he says.

Or how about this from another GOP election truth teller. Trump's appointed election security czar, Chris Krebbs of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), has said things like the following hundreds of times since 2020:

1. The 2020 US election was the most secure in American history.

2. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

3. “TLDR: America, we have confidence in the security of your vote, you should, too.”

But you and other MAGAs just don't want to forking listen.

Instead, you listen to the lying rat-forker who has said, hundreds of times since 2020, that the election was rigged and stolen. With NO evidence of any irregularities that could have changed the outcome. ZERO.

Even on Joe Rogan the other day, Rogan was shaking his head about Trump's idiotic election claims:

Rogan: “‘Are you ever going to present this evidence [of election fraud]?"

Trump: "Well, what I’d rather do is—we’ll do it another time, and I would bring in papers that you would not believe. So many different papers.”

Sooooo many different papers. Which still have not been revealed after 60 lost court cases and four years.

And folks like you, Kram, eat that shirt up with no questions asked. People are saying!

THAT's the forking problem.

YOU are the problem.

[Typical Lax Dad]

The same is true in elections with minor and major voting irregularities. They both have the same effect of undermining election integrity.

Bull shirt. Utter bull shirt.

What undermines election integrity is the MAGAs (and the GOP more generally) lying about non-existent to extremely minor/overblown items. For example, GOP election law Ben Ginsberg joined fellow conservatives in co-authoring a report that examined 2020 election lawsuits:

“The evidence to back up the allegations of fraud and elections being unreliable simply does not exist,” he says.

Or how about this from another GOP election truth teller. Trump's appointed election security czar, Chris Krebbs of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), has said things like the following hundreds of times since 2020:

1. The 2020 US election was the most secure in American history.

2. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

3. “TLDR: America, we have confidence in the security of your vote, you should, too.”

But you and other MAGAs just don't want to forking listen.

Instead, you listen to the lying rat-forker who has said, hundreds of times since 2020, that the election was rigged and stolen. With NO evidence of any irregularities that could have changed the outcome. ZERO.

Even on Joe Rogan the other day, Rogan was shaking his head about Trump's idiotic election claims:

Rogan: “‘Are you ever going to present this evidence [of election fraud]?"

Trump: "Well, what I’d rather do is—we’ll do it another time, and I would bring in papers that you would not believe. So many different papers.”

Sooooo many different papers. Which still have not been revealed after 60 lost court cases and four years.

And folks like you, Kram, eat that shirt up with no questions asked. People are saying!

THAT's the forking problem.

YOU are the problem.

They and people like them are the problem. I would be their worst nightmare if I had the power.

[MDlaxfan76]

Dominion systems acting up on certain machines, nationally: https://www.wlns.com/your-local-electio ... ing-issue/

And some of the rocket scientists on this forum scratch their ass while sounding confused as to why voters question the integrity of our voting system.

Unless you two morons have $787.5 million rattling around in the couch cushions, maybe it would be wise to STFU.

So know posting voting news, in the Voting thread, is bad.....The party of Unity says STFU; well played.

Just trying to help you guys save a few hundred million.

But it is a free country. Keep running your mouth and spewing complete garbage bull shirt.

As you MAGA morons like to say — fork around and find out.

Spewing complete garbage bs? How?

The lady who said the machines have issues is extremely reputable. And definitely not a MAGA supporter.

This was her quote-

“Yeah, this is a nationwide issue with Dominion voter access terminals in, in the counties that use them in the voter access terminals,” says Benson. “Of course, not all the machines, just the ones that are accessible, have an issue. With the straight-party voting and a programming issue, that’s again affected the machines nationwide.”

Is there a reason not to believe the news outlet mentioned?

Fox's behavior doesn't mean the reporting of current and future Dominion issues is verboten.

In fact, I'd say Dominion's litigious nature probably means news outlets are now more likely to really cross their Ts and dot their I's when they report on Dominion voting problems.

Good lord, the issue is only with the Voter Assist Terminals used solely by people with particular disabilities. It does not cast wrong votes, rather it fails to register certain kinds of voter pattern choices (unrelated to particular party), ie they choose 'straight party' but then decide to split their ticket, they get an error statement..the voter knows its failed and it's a pain in the butt to get it right, but there's no false votes cast nor are there votes missed.

If a VAT user votes straight party and then splits their ticket, they will receive an error message—but will have the chance to fix it and still cast a ballot. While this does not change who or what a voter would cast their ballot for, it will make the process more inconvenient for VAT users who vote split-ticket.

Why pretend this is an actual issue in integrity of the vote or suggests something nefarious?

Maybe that wasn't your intent, Kram?
But as usual cradle chimed in predictably and it became "two morons"...

When state gov't officials start admitting to news outlets that certain anomalies, irregularities and issues need to be "corrected" and "fixed" on voting machines, it doesn't inspire confidence.

In business, the appearance of conflicts of interest have the same effect as REAL conflicts of interest.

The same is true in elections with minor and major voting irregularities. They both have the same effect of undermining election integrity.

Sure, if there is an incentive to create doubts, normal and quite inconsequential problems can be spun up by those with such incentives to confuse lhe less informed.

But to be clear, there are no voting irregularities, no actual issues with voting integrity, merely a matter of a conflict in the software with a specific machine used by a very small percentage of people and no resulting in any improper votes cast or votes eliminated. Annoying but easily corrected manually.

So, this is only an issue because there are people with those incentives to sow doubt.
We know who they are and why they want voters to doubt.
F-them.