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Boxster54 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:06 pm In my opinion he should stay and compete for the job. Pulling this nonsense now when the team needs to count on everyone to achieve their goals is selfish. This is a life lesson both players will likely face at work once their lacrosse careers are over. How you handle this challenge and adversity now will have a huge impact in your life later on when it really matters. I'm sure he knew what he was walking into when he committed that nothing was guaranteed. It never is. Perhaps there are other circumstances we are not aware of, however, this is big time Division 1 lacrosse where all the players are really good and want to play. The kid has the talent to be the starter. I say push the other guy in practice and win the job or else be there to help the team be better in practice and be ready to play in an important game when your number is called, like it was in Princeton. Sorry, but I tend to be old school on this stuff...

I completely agree. Be a team player. Don’t distract the team at this point in the season. Don't you think any coach he approaches will be wary of this? What happens if he doesn’t play at his next school.

wahoomurf wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:05 pm Tillman attracts transfers (8 on the Terp's roster) like scata attracts flies.And Dolan is a senior. Burkinshaw is heading to Terpland.

Maryland does have Drew Morris waiting his turn.
Also Logan McNaney, a top goalie recruit, shows up in the fall

I don't know that it matters anymore with the transfer portal, but in the past coaches have been able to restrict transfers from going to opponents for the following season. According to Tiffany, UVa is playing UMd next spring.

Cooter wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:25 pm

wahoomurf wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:05 pm Tillman attracts transfers (8 on the Terp's roster) like scata attracts flies.And Dolan is a senior. Burkinshaw is heading to Terpland.

Maryland does have Drew Morris waiting his turn.
Also Logan McNaney, a top goalie recruit, shows up in the fall

I don't know that it matters anymore with the transfer portal, but in the past coaches have been able to restrict transfers from going to opponents for the following season. According to Tiffany, UVa is playing UMd next spring.

Tillman could care less who is in-waiting. He’s one of the most competitive people in the sport with a great poker face.

I think that was just a figure of speech.
No such thing, of course with a team as stacked with talent as the Terps as pre-ordained.

I do like Drew Morris, though, a lot.

reLAX wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:13 pm

Boxster54 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:06 pm In my opinion he should stay and compete for the job. Pulling this nonsense now when the team needs to count on everyone to achieve their goals is selfish. This is a life lesson both players will likely face at work once their lacrosse careers are over. How you handle this challenge and adversity now will have a huge impact in your life later on when it really matters. I'm sure he knew what he was walking into when he committed that nothing was guaranteed. It never is. Perhaps there are other circumstances we are not aware of, however, this is big time Division 1 lacrosse where all the players are really good and want to play. The kid has the talent to be the starter. I say push the other guy in practice and win the job or else be there to help the team be better in practice and be ready to play in an important game when your number is called, like it was in Princeton. Sorry, but I tend to be old school on this stuff...

I completely agree. Be a team player. Don’t distract the team at this point in the season. Don't you think any coach he approaches will be wary of this? What happens if he doesn’t play at his next school.

Lars Tiffany certainly felt free to "transfer" to UVA from a successful Brown program.* Coaches can and do move, players should have the opportunity as well. And goalie is the one position where you could get blocked out for years.

(*Dylan Molloy found out from word of mouth at the Tewaaraton Awards (the year he won) that Tiffany was leaving for UVA. Tiffany took the job and did not tell his Brown players he was looking or that he'd taken the job before it went public.)

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:55 pm

molo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:22 pm Big distraction for a team that is on a roll. He’d start for many good teams.

Which schools do you think he’s thinking of? Hopkins is top of my list; Petro surely is on this. Loyola (Stover is a senior). While I’m in Maryland, Towson? Playing for Nadelin is great.

Maryland? Tillman is a guy whom everyone loves and Fairman can help attract a fellow NEWest kid.

With Ryan Darby steadily improving, not sure there is room for even an outstanding goalie like Burkinshaw.

Plus, the last time Petro brought in a transfer goalie (from Michigan), there was reportedly some serious tension on the team. Doubt Petro has forgotten about that.

Very much doubt Burkinshaw is headed to Hopkins.

DocBarrister

The Orfling wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:49 pm

reLAX wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:13 pm

Boxster54 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:06 pm In my opinion he should stay and compete for the job. Pulling this nonsense now when the team needs to count on everyone to achieve their goals is selfish. This is a life lesson both players will likely face at work once their lacrosse careers are over. How you handle this challenge and adversity now will have a huge impact in your life later on when it really matters. I'm sure he knew what he was walking into when he committed that nothing was guaranteed. It never is. Perhaps there are other circumstances we are not aware of, however, this is big time Division 1 lacrosse where all the players are really good and want to play. The kid has the talent to be the starter. I say push the other guy in practice and win the job or else be there to help the team be better in practice and be ready to play in an important game when your number is called, like it was in Princeton. Sorry, but I tend to be old school on this stuff...

I completely agree. Be a team player. Don’t distract the team at this point in the season. Don't you think any coach he approaches will be wary of this? What happens if he doesn’t play at his next school.

Lars Tiffany certainly felt free to "transfer" to UVA from a successful Brown program.* Coaches can and do move, players should have the opportunity as well. And goalie is the one position where you could get blocked out for years.

(*Dylan Molloy found out from word of mouth at the Tewaaraton Awards (the year he won) that Tiffany was leaving for UVA. Tiffany took the job and did not tell his Brown players he was looking or that he'd taken the job before it went public.)

Not a Lars defender, but IIRC he was Penn St's first choice and turned them down (and they were known as a 'sleeping giant') leading to Tambroni's hiring. Like EF Hutton, when UVa talks, coaches listen. And Brown is UVa's AAA franchise at this point.


Burkinshaw > Yale?? He'll be entering the exact same situation as UVa: highly rated sophmore goalie ahead of him- who actually has a nat'l championship on his resumé.

bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:07 am

The Orfling wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:49 pm

reLAX wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:13 pm

Boxster54 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:06 pm In my opinion he should stay and compete for the job. Pulling this nonsense now when the team needs to count on everyone to achieve their goals is selfish. This is a life lesson both players will likely face at work once their lacrosse careers are over. How you handle this challenge and adversity now will have a huge impact in your life later on when it really matters. I'm sure he knew what he was walking into when he committed that nothing was guaranteed. It never is. Perhaps there are other circumstances we are not aware of, however, this is big time Division 1 lacrosse where all the players are really good and want to play. The kid has the talent to be the starter. I say push the other guy in practice and win the job or else be there to help the team be better in practice and be ready to play in an important game when your number is called, like it was in Princeton. Sorry, but I tend to be old school on this stuff...

I completely agree. Be a team player. Don’t distract the team at this point in the season. Don't you think any coach he approaches will be wary of this? What happens if he doesn’t play at his next school.

Lars Tiffany certainly felt free to "transfer" to UVA from a successful Brown program.* Coaches can and do move, players should have the opportunity as well. And goalie is the one position where you could get blocked out for years.

(*Dylan Molloy found out from word of mouth at the Tewaaraton Awards (the year he won) that Tiffany was leaving for UVA. Tiffany took the job and did not tell his Brown players he was looking or that he'd taken the job before it went public.)

Not a Lars defender, but IIRC he was Penn St's first choice and turned them down (and they were known as a 'sleeping giant') leading to Tambroni's hiring. Like EF Hutton, when UVa talks, coaches listen. And Brown is UVa's AAA franchise at this point.


Burkinshaw > Yale?? He'll be entering the exact same situation as UVa: highly rated sophmore goalie ahead of him- who actually has a nat'l championship on his resumé.

Sure. But he'll be at Yale.

Renault, perhaps you know something we don't, but that would be a surefire way to upset a cohesive team (Yale). The kid starting now for Yale is darn good, and as someone said, has a national 'ship under his belt, and is like Rode, a sophomore. I further assume he is well liked by his mates and coaches.

We don't know any of the variables here outside what the posters have mentioned, but if I were in his shoes, and now knowing some things this morning I did not know last night, based on quality of school/school culture/coach/availability, I guess I'd be looking most tightly at Duke or Loyola, with Towson a close third. I think he'd be starting on a great team, with a great coach, at schools which have really good vibes (notwithstanding the Hoos' incredible basketball championship last night!), with opportunities to win national championships.

Bear in mind, Burkinshaw could have specific reasons to choose a school not even considered; as a possibility, this kid was a remarkable hockey player in high school as well. Maybe he'd go to a Providence, Yale, Harvard, or Michigan, and keep his options open?

Well, enough on that. If Danowski, Toomey, and Nadelen aren't on this already, they will be.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:02 pm

HooDat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:49 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:58 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:51 pm the insight that i can share is the staff likes rode to date, though that's not really insight.
the stats are what they are. through x # of games --- you or anyone can opine about whether they will change much for a goalie. i know what i think. in the meantime, i'll take where they are, given how they've had to pull out about every win from behind.

I agree, though that's not exactly the "insight" I was looking for above.

I quite agree about being pleased with the current position UVA is in, all the more so for the comeback wins.

But this is a lacrosse discussion, so I raise this question.

UVA needed better goaltending and got it for a game each by their tenders.
Why the backslide?

Interesting to me was that Rode was lights-out at the start of the game - right up to the penalty, and then he seemed to lose something. The staff seems to be very committed to him as the starter - can they still redshirt Burkinshaw?

I'd be more worried about losing him to another program next year.
If you don't get the starts when the stats have this differential, when will you?
(huge caveat that we don't know about injuries, sickness, practice stuff, etc)

I don't think he's eligible for redshirting other than medical redshirt, but someone could correct me.

yes, wahoomurf, the challenge is consistency. Right now, we know that Rode is inconsistent. We're not as sure about Burkinshaw as the data set's smaller.

From watching Rode over a number of years, I'm not surprised by the inconsistency; I'd predicted that he'd be challenged at the high college level given his technical deficiencies. But he's also capable of being electrifying. Great upside.

Two #1 rated tenders, back to back classes. Gotta get 50+% regularly out of someone.
Even if that means swapping them in and out when one is hot and one is not.

This is what I was thinking back on March 18.
I'm not all that surprised that Burkinshaw would be thinking about this, given that it would appear that the staff made the call despite what we were seeing on the field, in the stats.

However, I'm not sure why he'd put the request in now as I'm not aware that there was some sort of rush.

So, that's what's on my mind now.

It just feels like there's something more.

Did he go to the coaches and say, 'hey, if you're not going to play me even though I'm the better guy and have proved it, I'm not staying?', and they said, 'if that's your attitude, hit the highway' or worse, did this come from over zealous parents?

I saw that happen on my son's Ivy team when a kid who'd been the #1 rated tender in his class as a junior in HS didn't get a start his freshman and sophomore years in college. Two goalies ahead of him, both of whom had All-Ivy seasons. But the reality, for that kid, was that he was far from ready, both on and off the field. Immature, entitled. Parents were super vocal, obnoxiously so. I would assume that was with the coaches too. Kid eventually transferred out, to my knowledge never reappeared anywhere on the field I noticed.

This, though, is a situation where the kid got a chance to play and was outstanding when on the field. He's got a legitimate beef if the message is that he can't win the job despite the #'s.

Or do the coaches see something that we don't get to see? It's certainly been a puzzle, from the outside, as to why he's not been on the field.

Was it just to send the message, with the hope that would help change the calculus? Gee, that seems way too public. Or maybe he didn't realize how public it would be? Oops?

If transfer, where would you want to go instead of UVA, assuming that UVA was attractive to you for more than lax? I'm biased, but seems to me that's a very short list. I'm thinking Ivy, but have no idea what his academic aspirations may be.

Plenty of places for lax, but anywhere you go there's going to be a player in front of you with and one coming behind you. No guarantees.

I guess we'll learn more as this all plays out.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:34 am Renault, perhaps you know something we don't, but that would be a surefire way to upset a cohesive team (Yale). The kid starting now for Yale is darn good, and as someone said, has a national 'ship under his belt, and is like Rode, a sophomore. I further assume he is well liked by his mates and coaches.

We don't know any of the variables here outside what the posters have mentioned, but if I were in his shoes, and now knowing some things this morning I did not know last night, based on quality of school/school culture/coach/availability, I guess I'd be looking most tightly at Duke or Loyola, with Towson a close third. I think he'd be starting on a great team, with a great coach, at schools which have really good vibes (notwithstanding the Hoos' incredible basketball championship last night!), with opportunities to win national championships.

Bear in mind, Burkinshaw could have specific reasons to choose a school not even considered; as a possibility, this kid was a remarkable hockey player in high school as well. Maybe he'd go to a Providence, Yale, Harvard, or Michigan, and keep his options open?

Well, enough on that. If Danowski, Toomey, and Nadelen aren't on this already, they will be.

Not taking anything away from Starr, but he has a 47% avg. That's not enough to be anointed starter if another guy arrives on campus who is better.

This is the challenge for goalies and FOGO's, but especially goalies...one guy plays, the rest sit and wait. But if a guy is better, teams expect the better guy to play.

"better" is not just about saves % though. Nor clearing etc.
Leadership matters. Do you play big when it's all on the line, when the heat is the hottest?

I don't see Loyola or Towson, from UVA, but Duke sure.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:44 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:34 am Renault, perhaps you know something we don't, but that would be a surefire way to upset a cohesive team (Yale). The kid starting now for Yale is darn good, and as someone said, has a national 'ship under his belt, and is like Rode, a sophomore. I further assume he is well liked by his mates and coaches.

We don't know any of the variables here outside what the posters have mentioned, but if I were in his shoes, and now knowing some things this morning I did not know last night, based on quality of school/school culture/coach/availability, I guess I'd be looking most tightly at Duke or Loyola, with Towson a close third. I think he'd be starting on a great team, with a great coach, at schools which have really good vibes (notwithstanding the Hoos' incredible basketball championship last night!), with opportunities to win national championships.

Bear in mind, Burkinshaw could have specific reasons to choose a school not even considered; as a possibility, this kid was a remarkable hockey player in high school as well. Maybe he'd go to a Providence, Yale, Harvard, or Michigan, and keep his options open?

Well, enough on that. If Danowski, Toomey, and Nadelen aren't on this already, they will be.

Not taking anything away from Starr, but he has a 47% avg. That's not enough to be anointed starter if another guy arrives on campus who is better.

This is the challenge for goalies and FOGO's, but especially goalies...one guy plays, the rest sit and wait. But if a guy is better, teams expect the better guy to play.

"better" is not just about saves % though. Nor clearing etc.
Leadership matters. Do you play big when it's all on the line, when the heat is the hottest?

I don't see Loyola or Towson, from UVA, but Duke sure.

I understand your thought, but I think that's old-world thinking (and no offense to anyone's age lol).

Notwithstanding the recent pay-to-pay craziness of college admissions, college athletes these days can get an equal education anywhere provided they put the work in...online/internships/etc. Plus, many schools now have a great post-university networking capacity that previously only a Harvard-type college afforded. In fact, I'd argue that today, the Ivy networks pale in comparison to smaller tighter schools like Colgate, Loyola, or Lehigh, where alum truly care about their fellow grads and go out of their way to support recent grads in their first career choices (this, spoken from a guy whose brother attended Harvard, though yours truly did not). I know a ton of Ivy grads who won't even support their schools any longer owing to perceived liberal orthodoxy; the atmosphere of content perfection is not what it once was at those schools.

Duke isn't far removed from that allegation, imo.

Loyola oth has one of the best campus cultures around especially if you treat your Catholic faith with some seriousness, with (again, IMO) one of the best venues and fan support for lacrosse. In a kid's case like Burkinshaw, the fact that Toomey seems to mine the Connecticut schools (Lindley, Bailey, Swindell, etc...) wouldn't hurt if Burkinshaw looked their way.

Anyway, I do not know anything about this particular situation...this kid is an incredible talent and I hope he makes the decision that is best for him, not me.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:34 am However, I'm not sure why he'd put the request in now as I'm not aware that there was some sort of rush.

So, that's what's on my mind now.

It just feels like there's something more.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:34 am anywhere you go there's going to be a player in front of you with and one coming behind you. No guarantees.

This is where I lose the logic trail. If this kids thinks he is going anywhere where there won't be the same level of competition, then he is kidding himself. Ok, maybe the guy ahead of you is not as good, or about to graduate. That doesn't mean the kid behind you wont take your spot.

If you didn't pick a school first, lacrosse second, then you have made bad choices from the start, and this may just be another bad choice.

With that said, we have no idea. Maybe he and Kipp or he and Lars just plain don't get along. Maybe there is a helicopter parent issued like MD alluded to. We don't know.

As a fan of the program, I resent the mid-season drama. There was no need for this to go down this way.

From what little I know, and my understanding of the portal, this kid is def not happy. He could have waited until the season was over and still had all the same options. You don't need the coaches permission to got on the portal, it is done through the AD, and you don't have to leave once you are listed, however your Coach probably won't have much interest in you once you are posted. The kid played great against Princeton and basically won the game for them then gets pulled after one half at Cuse. In his mind the writing is on the wall, they like the sophomore better. I don't blame him, he has good reason to go, and basically every team in the country is interested. The timing of it is what is telling to me, he easily could have waited, maybe gotten some more time, but is so discouraged he wants out. This one is on Kip and Lars, and maybe they are ok with it, sure looks like they made their choice.

Have to agree with Doc—I don't think Petro is in the market for another goalie transfer after the Logan debacle. Would be shocked if he goes to Hopkins..

For what it's worth, when Burkinshaw committed in 2015 he said the other schools he was considering were Princeton, Brown, Providence, and Richmond.

http://www.laxlessons.com/2015/07/21/pa ... urkinshaw/

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:24 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:44 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:34 am Renault, perhaps you know something we don't, but that would be a surefire way to upset a cohesive team (Yale). The kid starting now for Yale is darn good, and as someone said, has a national 'ship under his belt, and is like Rode, a sophomore. I further assume he is well liked by his mates and coaches.

We don't know any of the variables here outside what the posters have mentioned, but if I were in his shoes, and now knowing some things this morning I did not know last night, based on quality of school/school culture/coach/availability, I guess I'd be looking most tightly at Duke or Loyola, with Towson a close third. I think he'd be starting on a great team, with a great coach, at schools which have really good vibes (notwithstanding the Hoos' incredible basketball championship last night!), with opportunities to win national championships.

Bear in mind, Burkinshaw could have specific reasons to choose a school not even considered; as a possibility, this kid was a remarkable hockey player in high school as well. Maybe he'd go to a Providence, Yale, Harvard, or Michigan, and keep his options open?

Well, enough on that. If Danowski, Toomey, and Nadelen aren't on this already, they will be.

Not taking anything away from Starr, but he has a 47% avg. That's not enough to be anointed starter if another guy arrives on campus who is better.

This is the challenge for goalies and FOGO's, but especially goalies...one guy plays, the rest sit and wait. But if a guy is better, teams expect the better guy to play.

"better" is not just about saves % though. Nor clearing etc.
Leadership matters. Do you play big when it's all on the line, when the heat is the hottest?

I don't see Loyola or Towson, from UVA, but Duke sure.

I understand your thought, but I think that's old-world thinking (and no offense to anyone's age lol).

Notwithstanding the recent pay-to-pay craziness of college admissions, college athletes these days can get an equal education anywhere provided they put the work in...online/internships/etc. Plus, many schools now have a great post-university networking capacity that previously only a Harvard-type college afforded. In fact, I'd argue that today, the Ivy networks pale in comparison to smaller tighter schools like Colgate, Loyola, or Lehigh, where alum truly care about their fellow grads and go out of their way to support recent grads in their first career choices (this, spoken from a guy whose brother attended Harvard, though yours truly did not). I know a ton of Ivy grads who won't even support their schools any longer owing to perceived liberal orthodoxy; the atmosphere of content perfection is not what it once was at those schools.

Duke isn't far removed from that allegation, imo.

Loyola oth has one of the best campus cultures around especially if you treat your Catholic faith with some seriousness, with (again, IMO) one of the best venues and fan support for lacrosse. In a kid's case like Burkinshaw, the fact that Toomey seems to mine the Connecticut schools (Lindley, Bailey, Swindell, etc...) wouldn't hurt if Burkinshaw looked their way.

Anyway, I do not know anything about this particular situation...this kid is an incredible talent and I hope he makes the decision that is best for him, not me.

Gee, I may be biased because I went to Dartmouth. There's no 'tighter' school, alumni body.
Which isn't to say some of those you mentioned aren't 'tight' too.

Sure, some alums think their college is 'too liberal'; (hard to find somewhere you won't find alums complaining). Dartmouth was going through all sorts of turmoil in its alumni base when I was there in the '70's, coeducation, diversity, D-Plan, loss of "Indian" symbol, etc, etc. Lots of claims that Dartmouth would lose its alumni support. Gnashing of teeth. Result? Nope, support kept strengthening, year over year. Women upped the ante tremendously, school only strengthened. Alums were proud (and their daughters or their buddies daughters... and grand daughters started going!)

My son went to Harvard, working in Shanghai for an international company begun by a Harvard student. Had lots of opportunities because he was a successful HU student, chose not to go to Wall Street, but most of his lax buddies did.

Again, I'm biased, but I don't think Loyola has remotely the same sort of alumni network, Catholic or not. In Baltimore, pretty good. Outside of this region? My brother-in-law is a Loyola alum (also Loyola Blakefield). As a Baltimorean, I'm a fan of the school...and I really like Toomey, so this shouldn't be seen as an insult, just a statement of reality. On the other hand, it's fair to say that Loyola is a school on the rise educationally. Lot's to like. I have no idea about Burkinshaw's academic chops. It could be that Loyola is actually a great fit.

I quite agree, if you work hard, you can get a great education at lots and lots of schools. Life is not defined by the status of the name on the diploma! But let's not kid ourselves, either. There's a reason why UVA takes pride in its being regularly in the Top 3 nationally of public universities.

Duke seems like a more lateral move educationally, arguably even a move up. Loyola not. Towson (another school I support and coach I like!) definitely not.

But this is all just speculation...depends on the kid.

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:21 am From what little I know, and my understanding of the portal, this kid is def not happy. He could have waited until the season was over and still had all the same options. You don't need the coaches permission to got on the portal, it is done through the AD, and you don't have to leave once you are listed, however your Coach probably won't have much interest in you once you are posted. The kid played great against Princeton and basically won the game for them then gets pulled after one half at Cuse. In his mind the writing is on the wall, they like the sophomore better. I don't blame him, he has good reason to go, and basically every team in the country is interested. The timing of it is what is telling to me, he easily could have waited, maybe gotten some more time, but is so discouraged he wants out. This one is on Kip and Lars, and maybe they are ok with it, sure looks like they made their choice.

But, respectfully, we really have no idea what he wants or doesn't want.
We're just speculating.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:25 am Have to agree with Doc—I don't think Petro is in the market for another goalie transfer after the Logan debacle. Would be shocked if he goes to Hopkins..

For what it's worth, when Burkinshaw committed in 2015 he said the other schools he was considering were Princeton, Brown, Providence, and Richmond.

http://www.laxlessons.com/2015/07/21/pa ... urkinshaw/

I have zero idea about either side of this equation, Petro or the player, but suggesting that there was a "debacle" due to bringing in a proven Big 10 performer as a grad student, when you clearly didn't have depth at the position on the roster, and that not working out as hoped, would stop you from bringing in a 3-year potential performer as a transfer...I don't agree

I would think Petro would be eager to pick up Burkinshaw if he had a chance. But that doesn't mean the kid would be eager.

From that list, sounds like the kid (or his parents) thought he had enough academic #'s to be able to get in the door at an Ivy, but also had some back-ups.

Sort of an interesting range though!

What I find perplexing is that, despite the present frustration, what happens the rest of the way this season, much less the next 3 years, has a ton of variability. If Rode can't get above 50% with regularity, and you're working your tail off in practice, and are actually better, eventually that's going to work out just fine. And injuries can be a factor too!

I doubt he would go to another team in the ACC. I'm fairly certain the head coach has the option to restrict where a transfer can move to WITHOUT sitting out a year, but almost certainly not a conference opponent without missing a year. If he is leaving on bad terms then Coach Tiffany is more than likely to send him a message limiting his options. I would think he is looking at teams with a senior goalie who has played several years and is graduating thereby creating an open slot he can more easily compete for the job. I think Loyola fits that description, plus its a good school. It would be interesting to see what happens if Rode should get injured or plays really poorly between now and whenever their season ends. Who would they put in? Would it be the better goalie probably Berkinshaw who has publicly stated he wants out or Thompson who had the starting job but has stayed with the team? I'm not wishing anything bad on anyone, just would be an interesting scenario to see unfold...

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:52 pm

Cooter wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:25 pm

wahoomurf wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:05 pm Tillman attracts transfers (8 on the Terp's roster) like scata attracts flies.And Dolan is a senior. Burkinshaw is heading to Terpland.

Maryland does have Drew Morris waiting his turn.
Also Logan McNaney, a top goalie recruit, shows up in the fall

I don't know that it matters anymore with the transfer portal, but in the past coaches have been able to restrict transfers from going to opponents for the following season. According to Tiffany, UVa is playing UMd next spring.

Tillman could care less who is in-waiting. He’s one of the most competitive people in the sport with a great poker face.

I don't know about that, but Burkinshaw might care.