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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:47 am
by laxreference
wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:18 am
laxreference wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:09 am
Here's the #EfficiencyMatrix for DI MLAX. Up and to the right is where you want to be.
efficiency_matrix_NCAAD1Men_20230324.jpg
thanks. selfishly, any chance you could post uva while eliminating their 4th quarter or 2nd half vs harvard?
Unfortunately, beyond my time/energy for this graphic. I will say that when I last checked, UVA's adjusted efficiency without garbage time was only 2 spots worse than with all stats included. So it wouldn't move them as much as you would think.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:47 am
by laxreference
These three had the most impressive statistical performances of the day. Here are your 3 Stars for Mar 25th in DI Men's lacrosse
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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:10 am
by Farfromgeneva
laxreference wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:47 am
These three had the most impressive statistical performances of the day. Here are your 3 Stars for Mar 25th in DI Men's lacrosse
daily_stars_20230325_NCAAD1Men.jpg
Seems like at this point you could set up for top offensive star “insert name” vs Hobart/Yale/Navy defense.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:15 am
by laxreference
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:10 am
laxreference wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:47 am
These three had the most impressive statistical performances of the day. Here are your 3 Stars for Mar 25th in DI Men's lacrosse
daily_stars_20230325_NCAAD1Men.jpg
Seems like at this point you could set up for top offensive star “insert name” vs Hobart/Yale/Navy defense.
That does seem to be the trend, doesn't it.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:54 am
by Exlaxbro
I am sure this has been discussed before here but as a former pole I have always hoped there would be more defensive stats. Watching lax this weekend, I saw some great defensive performances but they barely, if at all, show up in the stat line. What would be some other metrics for a defender to garner beyond the CT or GB?
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:33 am
by laxreference
Exlaxbro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:54 am
I am sure this has been discussed before here but as a former pole I have always hoped there would be more defensive stats. Watching lax this weekend, I saw some great defensive performances but they barely, if at all, show up in the stat line. What would be some other metrics for a defender to garner beyond the CT or GB?
It's not really a novel stat, but I do calculate a CT:Pen ratio, similar to assist to turnover ratio for an offensive player. Obviously, creating turnovers is good, but if a defenseman can do it without creating any penalties, it's even more valuable.
Until we have better video tracking though, I think the things that really good defensemen do are always going to be invisible. On top of that, the most valuable stuff a defense does is through the interaction between multiple defensemen (sliding). I could see some awesome pairs stats related to sliding, but again, would need someone to build a technology to extract player location information from film.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:39 am
by laxreference
Here is how the DI MLAX computer rankings ended the weekend
Moving Up: Georgetown, Maryland, Richmond, Duke
In: North Carolina, UMass
Moving Down: Notre Dame, Loyola, Lehigh, Yale
Out: Penn, Air Force
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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:44 am
by Exlaxbro
laxreference wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:33 am
Exlaxbro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:54 am
I am sure this has been discussed before here but as a former pole I have always hoped there would be more defensive stats. Watching lax this weekend, I saw some great defensive performances but they barely, if at all, show up in the stat line. What would be some other metrics for a defender to garner beyond the CT or GB?
It's not really a novel stat, but I do calculate a CT:Pen ratio, similar to assist to turnover ratio for an offensive player. Obviously, creating turnovers is good, but if a defenseman can do it without creating any penalties, it's even more valuable.
Until we have better video tracking though, I think the things that really good defensemen do are always going to be invisible. On top of that, the most valuable stuff a defense does is through the interaction between multiple defensemen (sliding). I could see some awesome pairs stats related to sliding, but again, would need someone to build a technology to extract player location information from film.
I hear you. I just wish there was a better way. I watched a kid this weekend not show up on the stat page but stonewalled every dodge. I was impressed with his footwork and body position but he doesn’t even appear on IL stars bedside he likely didn’t have a CT or GB.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:50 am
by laxreference
Exlaxbro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:44 am
I hear you. I just wish there was a better way. I watched a kid this weekend not show up on the stat page but stonewalled every dodge. I was impressed with his footwork and body position but he doesn’t even appear on IL stars bedside he likely didn’t have a CT or GB.
It may not seem like it, but I have no doubt that we'll get there. There are some smart people doing cool stuff in lacrosse and with these technologies established in other sports, it's just a matter of time before we have them in lacrosse too.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:55 am
by Exlaxbro
The same stats have been around forever so change is difficult. I liken it to football where sacks were the standard stat but then hurries and pressures were eventually added. I am sure someone way smarter than me will figure this out.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:06 am
by laxreference
Tuesday means Top EGA performances of the week that was. Here's the 10 best statistical performances of the past 7 days in DI MLAX.
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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:12 am
by Farfromgeneva
laxreference wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:09 am
Here's the #EfficiencyMatrix for DI MLAX. Up and to the right is where you want to be.
efficiency_matrix_NCAAD1Men_20230324.jpg
UMass is interesting to see if offense light d strong can go far
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:31 am
by laxreference
Naso holds on to the top spot, but Justin Wietfeldt was the big mover in this week's Faceoff Elo ratings. Welcome to the top-10 Gunty, Wood and Brams.
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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:30 pm
by oldbartman
laxreference wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:31 am
Naso holds on to the top spot, but Justin Wietfeldt was the big mover in this week's Faceoff Elo ratings. Welcome to the top-10 Gunty, Wood and Brams.
faceoff_elo_ratings_20230329_NCAAD1Men.jpg
Are these rankings just for the past 7 days, or cumulative for this season?
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:36 pm
by laxreference
oldbartman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:30 pm
laxreference wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:31 am
Naso holds on to the top spot, but Justin Wietfeldt was the big mover in this week's Faceoff Elo ratings. Welcome to the top-10 Gunty, Wood and Brams.
faceoff_elo_ratings_20230329_NCAAD1Men.jpg
Are these rankings just for the past 7 days, or cumulative for this season?
Cumulative.
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:43 am
by laxreference
Without further ado, your 3 Stars for Mar 29th in DI Men's lacrosse
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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:11 am
by laxreference
Here's the Specialists Matrix for DI MLAX. Up and to the right is where you want to be.
Top 3 Opponent-Adjusted Goalie units: UMass, Notre Dame, Cornell
Top 3 Opponent-Adjusted FO units: Denver, Maryland, Duke
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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:01 am
by drunkmonkey30
laxreference wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:11 am
Here's the Specialists Matrix for DI MLAX. Up and to the right is where you want to be.
Top 3 Opponent-Adjusted Goalie units: UMass, Notre Dame, Cornell
Top 3 Opponent-Adjusted FO units: Denver, Maryland, Duke
specialists_matrix_NCAAD1Men_20230330.jpg
Past few seasons Cornell has been lower left quadrant of this chart, and still a top team. They are going to be a very tough out with both face-off and goalie play so much improved!
Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:16 pm
by laxreference
Here are the updated DI MLAX
SOR rankings after the Duke win over UVA.
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Re: Lacrosse Analytics
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:05 am
by laxreference
Shot-on-goal rate tends to be cited as a positive thing. But a high SOG rate can also mean a lot of shots being saved (and going the other direction). The key is to have a high SOG rate paired with a high on-goal shooting percentage (goals / on-cage shots).
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