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Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:08 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

Where’s DMac? That dude shops better than the guys on Homboyz Network! Check out his efforts on the food thread.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:32 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:02 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:45 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:25 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 8:57 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 8:10 am

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 7:10 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 7:04 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:36 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 10:39 pm Conservatives from 1600 to today: Let's make black people our property, keep them from being a full person or voting, lynch them when it's convenient, prevent them from getting an equal education or owning homes or businesses or having abortions and let's fight every change along the way and make things harder for them so we have it better.

Conservatives in 2022: Why are liberals so racist? They say black people have a hard time pulling themselves up by their bootstraps because of the color of their skin!

Black folks in 2022 sure as hell don't need Old White liberal men and women to help them. Too many of these folks are struggling BECAUSE of the efforts of liberal white America. Your only answer is to throw more money at poor folks and pat yourself on your backs for your compassion. You folks really are pathetic. You hand out just enough crumbs to make yourself look like heroes. The greatest success story for any person who is struggling financially and economically is the freedom you enjoy when you don't need crumbs from the government to survive just barely from month to month. That does not mean you don't help people in need. It should be made clear that if you are able bodied that help does not last forever.

Why do you find it necessary to include “old”, “fat” or “liberal” as adjectives? It’s silly. Pointless. Value destructive to whatever point you think you are making. Before even bothering with the substance.

And of course this is wildly conflating socioeconomic struggles with racial struggles.

Yes. +1.

Cradle is correct. Liberals have done more to harm blacks than any group out there. Look at Baltimore. Look at everywhere. And then listen to how liberals speak of blacks.

Janet Yellens comments that ‘it’s preferable for black parents to abort their children than raise them’ is the chefs kiss demonstration how a liberal thinks of black people. Despicable. Is todays liberal that far off of Margaret Sanger’s original thesis?

But a liberal can’t even see any of that. Instead, they’re outraged that’s how normal people heard those comments by Yellen. Liberals have zero self-awareness of their innate bigotry.

LIAR. Troll.

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Janet Yellen’s words here were the same used in the Roe vs Wade trial, repeated by democrats ever since, to say Roe v. Wade is good for the economy. With a disproportionate number of babies aborted being black, this appears racist. On its face, isn’t killing babies for economic reasons EUGENICS?

What a bonafide liberal racist.

Those are her exact words, not your hateful, twisted interpretation.

Women's rights, which they did not have and in some cases still don't have fully, are indeed good for the economy.
That includes contraception, equal pay, freedom from harassment, choice, and yes, the vote.

Restrictions on women's rights are bad for the economy, productivity and employment participation rate.

Expansion of women's rights, their education, their freedom from harassment, fair pay, family leave support (for men too), is all good for the economy.

53% of abortions are by women in poverty, which is quite "disproportionate"
39% white, 28% black, 25% Hispanic...reflecting the disproportion of black and hispanic women in poverty versus white. Yes, race remains a factor in poverty rate.

No "babies" are being killed at 23 weeks. Fetuses. Sure, potential.
We begin to have a more challenging conversation, at least IMO, after viability.

Let's be clear, these folks are coming for contraception too.

So what Ms Yellen tried to say in such a pathetically poor manner was to encourage poor black women to abort their babies because they were doomed before they were even born??? As our local FLP Republican liberal social justice warrior you agree with her??????? The fact you are born dirt poor does not mean your entitled to be born. Both my parents and every damn body of any color born in the 1920s were all born dirt poor. They ALL became what we know today as the "greatest generation" They became the greatest generation because they had no other choice.

This of course is the overarching point. Anyone of any color or means can grow up to be anything they want. The fact that the FLP believe that no one born poor can rise above their station in life explains all you need to know about how they view humanity in general and American exceptionalism specifically.

And with respect to MD, he can’t understand why a guy like Tim Scott would be offended by Yellen’s words, words that MD hears as a sterile explainer about why abortion is good for the economy, but words tfat a man like Tim Scott hears as straight-up eugenic racism.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:44 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

I get those chickens all the time for $7.99. And while I don’t use the bones I get ALL the meat. I’m like the worlds best proctologist in that regard.

The fact that the FLP believe that no one born poor can rise above their station in life explains all you need to know about how they view humanity in general and American exceptionalism specifically.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:33 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:25 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

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SNAP benefits for a mother of 4 in NYS are OVER 120 dollars a week. So if the schools need to feed your kids 2 meals a day 5 days a week... what are the moms not providing with the rest of the money. Don't you effing dare call me stupid. I went through this struggle with my boys as a single divorced dad. You do it because you HAVE to MD. I never took one effing red cent of SNAP benefits. I don't look down on any any parent that does. I know from personal experience how hard it can be. My kids went to school every damn day packing their own lunch. Providing that food was not an insurmountable obstacle. You give me 120 dollars a week and I will provide 3 squares a day for 4 kids and still have money left over for popcorn and hotdogs and a whole lot more. The PROBLEM is too many of these parents don't know how to shop or understand the basic concept that use to be taught in school of home economics. I use to make a supper for my boys called cheesey mac. It was a pound of ground beef I seasoned with chili mix, a half a stick of Velveeta cheese, a can of tomato soup and a pound of elbow macaroni. I don't believe that dinner cost me much more than 10 dollars. The leftovers were a meal for another day. I had back in those days a very limited budget. I always made it work. If I can do it any damn body can do it. When you have no other choice, what else can you do?

did I call you "stupid"?? If so, I apologize.

But no, $120 doesn't cut it for a mom and 4 kids in the current era.

Yes, smart meal planning (like using our app!) can save a family of 4 about $100 a month, by taking advantage of what's on sale that week.

But your situation in your era, challenging as I'm sure it was, two parents working, two boys, doesn't mirror the mom with 4 kids on SNAP in a poor neighborhood. Simply doesn't.

Of course, you're entirely right that it's possible to do better than most of these families do, and for the federal and local funding support, to be better deployed. No argument with that.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:50 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:44 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

I get those chickens all the time for $7.99. And while I don’t use the bones I get ALL the meat. I’m like the worlds best proctologist in that regard.

Best deal is Costco, bigger chicken for just $4.99.
Bulk shop at Costco, pick up one or two chickens each trip.

Problem for some shoppers is that you need a car to get to most Costco's, and "bulk up" shopping just isn't practical when you don't have enough money to get through the week, barely, to the next paycheck. Payday loans just to get a bill paid. And you don't have a pantry or a freezer anyway...

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:09 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:50 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:44 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

I get those chickens all the time for $7.99. And while I don’t use the bones I get ALL the meat. I’m like the worlds best proctologist in that regard.

Best deal is Costco, bigger chicken for just $4.99.
Bulk shop at Costco, pick up one or two chickens each trip.

Problem for some shoppers is that you need a car to get to most Costco's, and "bulk up" shopping just isn't practical when you don't have enough money to get through the week, barely, to the next paycheck. Payday loans just to get a bill paid. And you don't have a pantry or a freezer anyway...

You forgot to mention you have to join COSCO to shop there. I have never shopped there but I have friends that do. My wife and I are always on the lookout for reduced meats at Wegmans. Those chicken leg quarters are a big hit with us. Two quarters will feed 2 people for around 5 bucks. I grill them with roasted carrots and a salad..

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:33 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:25 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

e

SNAP benefits for a mother of 4 in NYS are OVER 120 dollars a week. So if the schools need to feed your kids 2 meals a day 5 days a week... what are the moms not providing with the rest of the money. Don't you effing dare call me stupid. I went through this struggle with my boys as a single divorced dad. You do it because you HAVE to MD. I never took one effing red cent of SNAP benefits. I don't look down on any any parent that does. I know from personal experience how hard it can be. My kids went to school every damn day packing their own lunch. Providing that food was not an insurmountable obstacle. You give me 120 dollars a week and I will provide 3 squares a day for 4 kids and still have money left over for popcorn and hotdogs and a whole lot more. The PROBLEM is too many of these parents don't know how to shop or understand the basic concept that use to be taught in school of home economics. I use to make a supper for my boys called cheesey mac. It was a pound of ground beef I seasoned with chili mix, a half a stick of Velveeta cheese, a can of tomato soup and a pound of elbow macaroni. I don't believe that dinner cost me much more than 10 dollars. The leftovers were a meal for another day. I had back in those days a very limited budget. I always made it work. If I can do it any damn body can do it. When you have no other choice, what else can you do?

did I call you "stupid"?? If so, I apologize.

But no, $120 doesn't cut it for a mom and 4 kids in the current era.

Yes, smart meal planning (like using our app!) can save a family of 4 about $100 a month, by taking advantage of what's on sale that week.

But your situation in your era, challenging as I'm sure it was, two parents working, two boys, doesn't mirror the mom with 4 kids on SNAP in a poor neighborhood. Simply doesn't.

Of course, you're entirely right that it's possible to do better than most of these families do, and for the federal and local funding support, to be better deployed. No argument with that.

I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:30 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:33 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:25 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

e

SNAP benefits for a mother of 4 in NYS are OVER 120 dollars a week. So if the schools need to feed your kids 2 meals a day 5 days a week... what are the moms not providing with the rest of the money. Don't you effing dare call me stupid. I went through this struggle with my boys as a single divorced dad. You do it because you HAVE to MD. I never took one effing red cent of SNAP benefits. I don't look down on any any parent that does. I know from personal experience how hard it can be. My kids went to school every damn day packing their own lunch. Providing that food was not an insurmountable obstacle. You give me 120 dollars a week and I will provide 3 squares a day for 4 kids and still have money left over for popcorn and hotdogs and a whole lot more. The PROBLEM is too many of these parents don't know how to shop or understand the basic concept that use to be taught in school of home economics. I use to make a supper for my boys called cheesey mac. It was a pound of ground beef I seasoned with chili mix, a half a stick of Velveeta cheese, a can of tomato soup and a pound of elbow macaroni. I don't believe that dinner cost me much more than 10 dollars. The leftovers were a meal for another day. I had back in those days a very limited budget. I always made it work. If I can do it any damn body can do it. When you have no other choice, what else can you do?

did I call you "stupid"?? If so, I apologize.

But no, $120 doesn't cut it for a mom and 4 kids in the current era.

Yes, smart meal planning (like using our app!) can save a family of 4 about $100 a month, by taking advantage of what's on sale that week.

But your situation in your era, challenging as I'm sure it was, two parents working, two boys, doesn't mirror the mom with 4 kids on SNAP in a poor neighborhood. Simply doesn't.

Of course, you're entirely right that it's possible to do better than most of these families do, and for the federal and local funding support, to be better deployed. No argument with that.

I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

Yes, that's part of what our company's tech helps families do. One of the questions in our app profile is "what's your budget for this meal" and we give a choice of ranges of cost per serving, defaulting at second from bottom which is $3-4. You can dial that up or down and the meal recommendations you receive meet that constraint, while using the on-sale ingredients at the store you're shopping this week (which we know at 85K US grocery stores each week), as well as all you other taste, health, allergy, skill etc answers. We default a lot of this but people can indicate pretty much where they are currently and we help them learn and improve from there.

Yup, last night we had split pea soup, with smoked turkey leg instead of ham in it, and a salad...we'd made a big batch a month ago, had it in the freezer in individual bowl size containers, took it out defrosted, on the table inside of 15 mins all told. Cheap, easy and man it's good.

But many families don't have that freezer space...but yes, it can be done...helps a whole lot to have more than one parent, and generations prior of such, but it's all possible...if someone has helped you learn to do it. And you don't have two jobs just to keep your head above water.

But I think you're kidding yourself that a family of a mom and 4 kids can actually make it on $120...a lot of decades of inflation since when you were doing so...

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:33 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:25 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

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SNAP benefits for a mother of 4 in NYS are OVER 120 dollars a week. So if the schools need to feed your kids 2 meals a day 5 days a week... what are the moms not providing with the rest of the money. Don't you effing dare call me stupid. I went through this struggle with my boys as a single divorced dad. You do it because you HAVE to MD. I never took one effing red cent of SNAP benefits. I don't look down on any any parent that does. I know from personal experience how hard it can be. My kids went to school every damn day packing their own lunch. Providing that food was not an insurmountable obstacle. You give me 120 dollars a week and I will provide 3 squares a day for 4 kids and still have money left over for popcorn and hotdogs and a whole lot more. The PROBLEM is too many of these parents don't know how to shop or understand the basic concept that use to be taught in school of home economics. I use to make a supper for my boys called cheesey mac. It was a pound of ground beef I seasoned with chili mix, a half a stick of Velveeta cheese, a can of tomato soup and a pound of elbow macaroni. I don't believe that dinner cost me much more than 10 dollars. The leftovers were a meal for another day. I had back in those days a very limited budget. I always made it work. If I can do it any damn body can do it. When you have no other choice, what else can you do?

did I call you "stupid"?? If so, I apologize.

But no, $120 doesn't cut it for a mom and 4 kids in the current era.

Yes, smart meal planning (like using our app!) can save a family of 4 about $100 a month, by taking advantage of what's on sale that week.

But your situation in your era, challenging as I'm sure it was, two parents working, two boys, doesn't mirror the mom with 4 kids on SNAP in a poor neighborhood. Simply doesn't.

Of course, you're entirely right that it's possible to do better than most of these families do, and for the federal and local funding support, to be better deployed. No argument with that.

I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:50 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:44 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?

so...you and your wife, two people, average $120 a week shopping "cheap", and you expect a mother and 4 growing kids to survive on $100?

Nope, not gonna get it done, and not close.
The good news is that it's indeed possible to shop smart and eat healthy food, but it's closer to $200 per week for a family of 4.

Making this more challenging, though, is when mom is working two jobs simply to pay the heat and rent, etc, and they have to live in an area where there isn't a great store like a Wegman's around the corner. Two bus ride stops away, maybe, but when to go? How to get it all home? so, instead they need to resort to small, often grubby stores with poor produce turnover and higher prices because they have far less purchasing power than a Wegmans (great retailer BTW).

and of course, don't get me started on some of the stupid SNAP rules that don't allow a user to purchase "prepared" foods like a rotisserie chicken, which are often less costly as a 'loss leader' than buying a whole chicken and cooking it yourself...stupid...

I get those chickens all the time for $7.99. And while I don’t use the bones I get ALL the meat. I’m like the worlds best proctologist in that regard.

Best deal is Costco, bigger chicken for just $4.99.
Bulk shop at Costco, pick up one or two chickens each trip.

Problem for some shoppers is that you need a car to get to most Costco's, and "bulk up" shopping just isn't practical when you don't have enough money to get through the week, barely, to the next paycheck. Payday loans just to get a bill paid. And you don't have a pantry or a freezer anyway...

Justice Samuel Alito is evidentially toting around an old grudge.

At a Thursday night event at the Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University, he had harsh words for the two conservative justices who joined the majority in Bostock v. Clayton County.

The 2020 opinion said that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits sex-based discrimination, extends to gay and transgender workers. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion, in which he was joined by the liberals and Chief Justice John Roberts.

Speaking via a video feed Thursday, Alito called Gorsuch a “colleague and friend,” but said that grounding the decision in the text of the 1964 law was “in my view indefensible,” according to the Washington Post.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 12:18 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

Red beans and rice are a main dish.

Can’t believe I’m saying this because I’m pretty sure I’d give a pig a rim job if you told me it tasted like bacon but…we rely on far too much protein in our diets, particularly meat based, in our society.

Red beans and rice is far better than bologna, salami or liverwurst.

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 1:20 pm Alito Calls Landmark Supreme Court Decision Expanding LGBTQ Worker Rights ‘Indefensible’

Justice Samuel Alito is evidentially toting around an old grudge.

At a Thursday night event at the Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University, he had harsh words for the two conservative justices who joined the majority in Bostock v. Clayton County.

The 2020 opinion said that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits sex-based discrimination, extends to gay and transgender workers. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion, in which he was joined by the liberals and Chief Justice John Roberts.

Speaking via a video feed Thursday, Alito called Gorsuch a “colleague and friend,” but said that grounding the decision in the text of the 1964 law was “in my view indefensible,” according to the Washington Post.

..

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 12:18 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

Red beans and rice are a main dish.

Can’t believe I’m saying this because I’m pretty sure I’d give a pig a rim job if you told me it tasted like bacon but…we rely on far too much protein in our diets, particularly meat based, in our society.

Red beans and rice is far better than bologna, salami or liverwurst.

I checked out the Walmart website to do a little math buying food for 5 people buying the cheap versions of the following:

red beans (8 lbs)
white rice (20 lbs)
stick butter (16 oz)
1% milk (4 gallons)
eggs (6 dozen)
apples (35)
whole carrots (70)
sandwich bread (7 bags)
peanut butter (40 oz)
jelly (30 oz)

Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs, slice of toast, 8oz glass of milk, 300 calories
Lunch: PB&J sandwiches with 1 serving of PB & 1 of Jelly with a whole apple and a glass of water, 550 calories
Dinner: 2 servings red beans, 2 servings rice with 1tbsp butter, 2 carrots, 8 oz glass of milk, 790 calories

Total cost: $95 per week. 1640 calories per person per day. Spices, herbs and seasoning not included.

When you start throwing in some variety and more fresh fruits and veggies, that price can go up quickly.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 12:18 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

Red beans and rice are a main dish.

Can’t believe I’m saying this because I’m pretty sure I’d give a pig a rim job if you told me it tasted like bacon but…we rely on far too much protein in our diets, particularly meat based, in our society.

Red beans and rice is far better than bologna, salami or liverwurst.

I checked out the Walmart website to do a little math buying food for 5 people buying the cheap versions of the following:

red beans (8 lbs)
white rice (20 lbs)
stick butter (16 oz)
1% milk (4 gallons)
eggs (6 dozen)
apples (35)
whole carrots (70)
sandwich bread (7 bags)
peanut butter (40 oz)
jelly (30 oz)

Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs, slice of toast, 8oz glass of milk, 300 calories
Lunch: PB&J sandwiches with 1 serving of PB & 1 of Jelly with a whole apple and a glass of water, 550 calories
Dinner: 2 servings red beans, 2 servings rice with 1tbsp butter, 2 carrots, 8 oz glass of milk, 790 calories

Total cost: $95 per week. 1640 calories per person per day. Spices, herbs and seasoning not included.

When you start throwing in some variety and more fresh fruits and veggies, that price can go up quickly.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:48 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 12:18 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

Red beans and rice are a main dish.

Can’t believe I’m saying this because I’m pretty sure I’d give a pig a rim job if you told me it tasted like bacon but…we rely on far too much protein in our diets, particularly meat based, in our society.

Red beans and rice is far better than bologna, salami or liverwurst.

I checked out the Walmart website to do a little math buying food for 5 people buying the cheap versions of the following:

red beans (8 lbs)
white rice (20 lbs)
stick butter (16 oz)
1% milk (4 gallons)
eggs (6 dozen)
apples (35)
whole carrots (70)
sandwich bread (7 bags)
peanut butter (40 oz)
jelly (30 oz)

Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs, slice of toast, 8oz glass of milk, 300 calories
Lunch: PB&J sandwiches with 1 serving of PB & 1 of Jelly with a whole apple and a glass of water, 550 calories
Dinner: 2 servings red beans, 2 servings rice with 1tbsp butter, 2 carrots, 8 oz glass of milk, 790 calories

Total cost: $95 per week. 1640 calories per person per day. Spices, herbs and seasoning not included.

When you start throwing in some variety and more fresh fruits and veggies, that price can go up quickly.

1640 is light for a typical average adult male. I recall the appropriate amount being around 2,20-2,400 but there’s people more expert in this than I. Hell MD runs a meal planning and health related business.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 7:05 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:48 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 12:18 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:02 am I disagree, the problem is way too many of these young moms have no clue how to shop. I'm not a financial wizard but I know I could spend 120 dollars a week for 4 kids with no problem at all. I watched my mom do it for years when I was a kid. I did for years when I was struggling and my kids were young. My kids had scrambled eggs and toast on many mornings. PBJ sammiches and an apple were common in their lunch bags. Egg noodles and butter and red beans and rice were often a main course. Spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, meatloaf. My kids use to love a western omelet and my chicken and biscuits. This was never rocket science for me. I watched my mom and helped my mom cook dinner for years. If you can make a basic rue there is nothing you can't put together. Scallop taters and ham and cheese was a big hit. A grilled cheese sammich and tomato soup. I can go on and on. You can be poor but cooking good food is not the obstacle you people are making it out to be. My grandmother thought me how to make split pea soup. That was bona fide great depression food. My grandpa would bring home a big bag of ham bones from the meat packing company where he worked. The rest was onions, carrots and split peas. The huge pot would last for a long time. If you understand how to cook on the cheap, doing so is not all that difficult once you know how.

Red beans and rice are a main dish.

Can’t believe I’m saying this because I’m pretty sure I’d give a pig a rim job if you told me it tasted like bacon but…we rely on far too much protein in our diets, particularly meat based, in our society.

Red beans and rice is far better than bologna, salami or liverwurst.

I checked out the Walmart website to do a little math buying food for 5 people buying the cheap versions of the following:

red beans (8 lbs)
white rice (20 lbs)
stick butter (16 oz)
1% milk (4 gallons)
eggs (6 dozen)
apples (35)
whole carrots (70)
sandwich bread (7 bags)
peanut butter (40 oz)
jelly (30 oz)

Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs, slice of toast, 8oz glass of milk, 300 calories
Lunch: PB&J sandwiches with 1 serving of PB & 1 of Jelly with a whole apple and a glass of water, 550 calories
Dinner: 2 servings red beans, 2 servings rice with 1tbsp butter, 2 carrots, 8 oz glass of milk, 790 calories

Total cost: $95 per week. 1640 calories per person per day. Spices, herbs and seasoning not included.

When you start throwing in some variety and more fresh fruits and veggies, that price can go up quickly.

1640 is light for a typical average adult male. I recall the appropriate amount being around 2,20-2,400 but there’s people more expert in this than I. Hell MD runs a meal planning and health related business.

yes, that would be very light...for the 'average' male, 2100 calories should lead to a pound of weight loss per week. 1500 would not be recommended, too sharp. But it depends on age, size, and activity level. Unfortunately (for old guys like me), it gets way harder to lose weight with each passing decade...requires less calories and more activity to lose that same pound.

But two servings of red beans and rice, with ham, would be about 966 calories, so boosting that total some. The recipe I linked was with smoked turkey leg, many less calories so 271 per serving, 542 for 2...helps, 'cause man it's good and I need at least two servings and it's not gonna be a problem if I go back for 3! I'm also gonna be looking for a full salad to go with, not 2 carrots...

Remember if you drink a beer....it's not 'free'...

Of course, I think he was referring to the example of a woman with her kids...females are less on average...on the other hand, you sure can't feed a growing teenage boy on 2,000 calories...he's needing a lot more if he's playing sports, not sitting in the dark all day...

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:44 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:34 am Cradle, you need to get yourself into a food store. $5 won’t get you two gallons of curdled milk.

My wife and I shop together every week at Wegmans. A gallon of fat free milk at our Wegmans is 2.47 cents. My math puts that just under 5 dollars. I don't know where you buy your milk but your getting ripped off. Don't doubt me in this SC.. I go shopping with my wife every damn week. I've done it for years. I know how to shop cheap. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty freaky good at it. My wife and I average now about 120 dollars a week. If you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass.. go check Wegmans web site. My wife and I buy 2 gallons of fat free milk every damn week. It actually only cost a 1.99 a gallon about 6 months ago. When was the last time you actually shopped at you local Piggly Wiggly?