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Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:12 am
by RedFromMI
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:03 am For decades, or rather during Obama's state of the Union speeches....how many times did he spew the vague "climate change" infrastruction, high speed rails, nonsense?

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... speed-rail

How did POTUSA (literally, yet he did nothing to legalize it ) do with his "vision" :lol:
I think high speed rail gets put into climate change efforts because of its potential to remove more polluting air and auto travel.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:22 am
by runrussellrun
RedFromMI wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:12 am
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:03 am For decades, or rather during Obama's state of the Union speeches....how many times did he spew the vague "climate change" infrastruction, high speed rails, nonsense?

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... speed-rail

How did POTUSA (literally, yet he did nothing to legalize it ) do with his "vision" :lol:
I think high speed rail gets put into climate change efforts because of its potential to remove more polluting air and auto travel.
great.....but MY point is that Bidens plan is useless, speak speak nothingness....just like Obama's was.

You brought it to the table, not us.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:30 pm
by Matnum PI

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:24 am
by Brooklyn
Say forum Republicans, how's that national debt going along? Why don't you prioritize discussions of it like you did in the old LP forum?


:lol: :lol:

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:26 pm
by youthathletics
Brooklyn wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:24 am Say forum Republicans, how's that national debt going along? Why don't you prioritize discussions of it like you did in the old LP forum?


:lol: :lol:
We have, on numerous occasions. You just wake up from your night out of rioting? ;)

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:03 pm
by Brooklyn
youthathletics wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:26 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:24 am Say forum Republicans, how's that national debt going along? Why don't you prioritize discussions of it like you did in the old LP forum?


:lol: :lol:
We have, on numerous occasions. You just wake up from your night out of rioting? ;)


Yeah right. Lots of comments about Biden but no solutions as per usual. Well, no surprise since the comment comes from someone whose glass is half empty. How was Happy Hour, by the way? ;)

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:07 pm
by RedFromMI
Stunning:

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Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:39 pm
by Peter Brown
Obviously the market is up today or Red wouldn’t have posted that.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:45 pm
by RedFromMI
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:39 pm Obviously the market is up today or Red wouldn’t have posted that.
Has nothing to do with the market - I have not even checked that today. Defensive much?

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:47 am
by CU88
Interesting point about the markets starting to stabilize with the prospect of an uncontested Biden victory.

October 5, 2020 (Monday)
It appears that the closing argument from the Trump campaign for his reelection was supposed to be that the Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden, was overreacting to coronavirus, making fun, for example, of his insistence on wearing a mask and staying distant from others.
Trump was supposed to project strength in the face of the pandemic, suggesting that it has been way overblown by Democrats who oppose his administration and who are thus responsible for the faltering economy.
Then, of course, coronavirus began to spread like wildfire through Trump’s own inner circle after last Saturday's Rose Garden celebration of Trump’s nomination of Amy Coney Barrett for the Supreme Court seat formerly held by the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. As Trump and increasing numbers of people in his inner circle began to test positive for the infection, the campaign first floundered, and now appears to be trying to brazen out the idea that the disease is not a big deal, and that Trump has conquered it.
This is insane. Covid-19 has currently infected more than 7 million Americans, and killed more than 210,000 of us, close to the number of Union soldiers—224,097-- who died in our bloody four-year Civil War.
Apparently, it is frustrating Trump that he cannot campaign. Last night, he traveled in a motorcade around Walter Reed hospital, waving to supporters. The trip horrified medical personnel, who noted that the presidential vehicle is sealed against chemical attack, meaning that the secret service professionals traveling with the president were exposed to a deadly disease for no apparent reason. One of the agents assigned to the First Family told CNN “That never should have happened… The frustration with how we’re treated when it comes to decisions on this illness goes back before this though. We’re not disposable.”
Dr. James P. Phillips, from the Walter Reed Hospital, took to Twitter: “Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential “drive-by” just now has to be quarantined for 14 days. They might get sick. They may die. For political theater. Commanded by Trump to put their lives at risk for theater. This is insanity.”
Even staffers were complaining about the disorganization in the West Wing after Trump’s drive. But things did not get more anchored this morning.
Early on, the president began to tweet at a great pace, in all caps, campaign slogans followed by the word “VOTE!” His promises were random and unanchored in reality, with words like “BIGGEST TAX CUT EVER, AND ANOTHER ONE COMING. VOTE!” According to Gabriel Sherman at Vanity Fair, the Trump family is divided over Trump’s performance. According to two Republicans close to the family, Don Jr. was worried by the drive around the hospital. “Don Jr. thinks Trump is acting crazy,” said one of the sources. But Ivanka, Eric, and Jared Kushner “keep telling Trump how great he’s doing.” All of them, though, worried about the morning’s tweet storm.
The infection continues to spread through the White House. This morning, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany announced that she, too, has tested positive for coronavirus, a day after she briefed reporters without a mask. Two sources told CNN that two of McEnany’s deputies, Chad Gilmartin and Karoline Leavitt, have also tested positive, along with two members of the White House staff. McEnany said at first the White House was planning to put out the number of staffers infected, but then said it could not, out of “privacy concerns.” But of course there’s no privacy at stake in the raw numbers.
Today we learned that another person who attended the Rose Garden event, Pastor Greg Laurie of the Harvest Christian Fellowship megachurches in California and Hawaii, has tested positive for coronavirus. In addition, thirteen workers who helped to cater a private Trump fundraiser last Thursday in Minnesota are all quarantining.
Although doctors expressed surprise and concern at the idea Trump might leave Walter Reed Hospital today, the president tweeted: “I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!”
Doctors noted that he is in a dangerous period for the progression of Covid-19, and that anyone who had required the sorts of treatments Trump has had is too sick to leave the hospital. “I will bet dollars to doughnuts it’s the president and his political aides who are talking about discharge, not his doctors,” William Schaffner, a professor of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University’s medical school, told the Washington Post.
A briefing by Trump’s doctors obscured more than it revealed. The White House physician, Sean Conley, has refused to tell reporters when Trump last tested negative for coronavirus, a piece of information that would tell us when he knew he was infected. He also refused to explain why the president is being treated with a steroid usually reserved for seriously ill patients, or to discuss the state of Trump’s lungs. He did say that the president is “not out of the woods yet.”
Nonetheless, Trump left Walter Reed Hospital tonight, after lights had been installed to enable him to make a triumphant exit. Still infectious, he went back to the White House and climbed a flight of stairs to a balcony, where he dramatically removed his face mask and saluted well-wishers from a balcony. Although the moment was clearly designed to make Trump look strong, it was obvious he was struggling to breathe.
Vox’s Aaron Rupar noted that “Trump has no choice but to continue to downplay coronavirus (despite 210,000 dead and record new case numbers) because if he changed course, it would be an admission that he was wrong about the defining issue of his presidency -- at the cost of tens of thousands of lives.”
This evening, Trump released a video telling people not to let the coronavirus “dominate you. Don’t be afraid of it. You’re going to beat it…. Don’t let it take over your lives.” CNN chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta dubbed him “Coronavirus in Chief.”
Meanwhile, on the campaign trail, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden held a town hall tonight in Miami, Florida, where he gave detailed answers to questions about police reform (more money, ban chokeholds and no knock warrants); socialism (“I’ve taken on the Castros of the world. I didn’t cozy up to them”); a mask mandate (the president can only mandate masks on federal property, but he would call on governors and mayors to do the same); and reopening schools (PPE, small classes, ventilation). Watchers noted that it was a treat both to see a normal conversation and to hear detailed, informed answers.
To stay in touch with voters, Biden today began “Notes from Joe,” a daily newsletter.
Bloomberg is reporting that the contrast between the recent craziness of the White House and Biden’s calm detail has led the stock market to stabilize. Strategists are coming to think there will not be a contested election after all. Biden’s lead over Trump increased again after Trump’s debate performance, which apparently was designed to try to bully Biden by hitting triggers until he began to stutter, thus enabling the Trump campaign to portray him as mentally incapacitated. That strategy failed as Biden parried the triggers, and Americans were repelled by Trump’s behavior. Peter Rosenstreich, head of market strategy at Swissquote Bank SA, told Bloomberg, “Polls are shifting from a close election and prolonged uncertainty to more a dominant Biden and clean succession…. That is reducing uncertainty and increasing risk appetite.”

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:16 am
by kramerica.inc
CU88 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:47 am Interesting point about the markets starting to stabilize with the prospect of an uncontested Biden victory.

October 5, 2020 (Monday)
It appears that the closing argument from the Trump campaign for his reelection was supposed to be that the Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden, was overreacting to coronavirus, making fun, for example, of his insistence on wearing a mask and staying distant from others.
Trump was supposed to project strength in the face of the pandemic, suggesting that it has been way overblown by Democrats who oppose his administration and who are thus responsible for the faltering economy.
Then, of course, coronavirus began to spread like wildfire through Trump’s own inner circle after last Saturday's Rose Garden celebration of Trump’s nomination of Amy Coney Barrett for the Supreme Court seat formerly held by the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. As Trump and increasing numbers of people in his inner circle began to test positive for the infection, the campaign first floundered, and now appears to be trying to brazen out the idea that the disease is not a big deal, and that Trump has conquered it.
This is insane. Covid-19 has currently infected more than 7 million Americans, and killed more than 210,000 of us, close to the number of Union soldiers—224,097-- who died in our bloody four-year Civil War.
Apparently, it is frustrating Trump that he cannot campaign. Last night, he traveled in a motorcade around Walter Reed hospital, waving to supporters. The trip horrified medical personnel, who noted that the presidential vehicle is sealed against chemical attack, meaning that the secret service professionals traveling with the president were exposed to a deadly disease for no apparent reason. One of the agents assigned to the First Family told CNN “That never should have happened… The frustration with how we’re treated when it comes to decisions on this illness goes back before this though. We’re not disposable.”
Dr. James P. Phillips, from the Walter Reed Hospital, took to Twitter: “Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential “drive-by” just now has to be quarantined for 14 days. They might get sick. They may die. For political theater. Commanded by Trump to put their lives at risk for theater. This is insanity.”
Even staffers were complaining about the disorganization in the West Wing after Trump’s drive. But things did not get more anchored this morning.
Early on, the president began to tweet at a great pace, in all caps, campaign slogans followed by the word “VOTE!” His promises were random and unanchored in reality, with words like “BIGGEST TAX CUT EVER, AND ANOTHER ONE COMING. VOTE!” According to Gabriel Sherman at Vanity Fair, the Trump family is divided over Trump’s performance. According to two Republicans close to the family, Don Jr. was worried by the drive around the hospital. “Don Jr. thinks Trump is acting crazy,” said one of the sources. But Ivanka, Eric, and Jared Kushner “keep telling Trump how great he’s doing.” All of them, though, worried about the morning’s tweet storm.
The infection continues to spread through the White House. This morning, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany announced that she, too, has tested positive for coronavirus, a day after she briefed reporters without a mask. Two sources told CNN that two of McEnany’s deputies, Chad Gilmartin and Karoline Leavitt, have also tested positive, along with two members of the White House staff. McEnany said at first the White House was planning to put out the number of staffers infected, but then said it could not, out of “privacy concerns.” But of course there’s no privacy at stake in the raw numbers.
Today we learned that another person who attended the Rose Garden event, Pastor Greg Laurie of the Harvest Christian Fellowship megachurches in California and Hawaii, has tested positive for coronavirus. In addition, thirteen workers who helped to cater a private Trump fundraiser last Thursday in Minnesota are all quarantining.
Although doctors expressed surprise and concern at the idea Trump might leave Walter Reed Hospital today, the president tweeted: “I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!”
Doctors noted that he is in a dangerous period for the progression of Covid-19, and that anyone who had required the sorts of treatments Trump has had is too sick to leave the hospital. “I will bet dollars to doughnuts it’s the president and his political aides who are talking about discharge, not his doctors,” William Schaffner, a professor of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University’s medical school, told the Washington Post.
A briefing by Trump’s doctors obscured more than it revealed. The White House physician, Sean Conley, has refused to tell reporters when Trump last tested negative for coronavirus, a piece of information that would tell us when he knew he was infected. He also refused to explain why the president is being treated with a steroid usually reserved for seriously ill patients, or to discuss the state of Trump’s lungs. He did say that the president is “not out of the woods yet.”
Nonetheless, Trump left Walter Reed Hospital tonight, after lights had been installed to enable him to make a triumphant exit. Still infectious, he went back to the White House and climbed a flight of stairs to a balcony, where he dramatically removed his face mask and saluted well-wishers from a balcony. Although the moment was clearly designed to make Trump look strong, it was obvious he was struggling to breathe.
Vox’s Aaron Rupar noted that “Trump has no choice but to continue to downplay coronavirus (despite 210,000 dead and record new case numbers) because if he changed course, it would be an admission that he was wrong about the defining issue of his presidency -- at the cost of tens of thousands of lives.”
This evening, Trump released a video telling people not to let the coronavirus “dominate you. Don’t be afraid of it. You’re going to beat it…. Don’t let it take over your lives.” CNN chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta dubbed him “Coronavirus in Chief.”
Meanwhile, on the campaign trail, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden held a town hall tonight in Miami, Florida, where he gave detailed answers to questions about police reform (more money, ban chokeholds and no knock warrants); socialism (“I’ve taken on the Castros of the world. I didn’t cozy up to them”); a mask mandate (the president can only mandate masks on federal property, but he would call on governors and mayors to do the same); and reopening schools (PPE, small classes, ventilation). Watchers noted that it was a treat both to see a normal conversation and to hear detailed, informed answers.
To stay in touch with voters, Biden today began “Notes from Joe,” a daily newsletter.
Bloomberg is reporting that the contrast between the recent craziness of the White House and Biden’s calm detail has led the stock market to stabilize. Strategists are coming to think there will not be a contested election after all. Biden’s lead over Trump increased again after Trump’s debate performance, which apparently was designed to try to bully Biden by hitting triggers until he began to stutter, thus enabling the Trump campaign to portray him as mentally incapacitated. That strategy failed as Biden parried the triggers, and Americans were repelled by Trump’s behavior. Peter Rosenstreich, head of market strategy at Swissquote Bank SA, told Bloomberg, “Polls are shifting from a close election and prolonged uncertainty to more a dominant Biden and clean succession…. That is reducing uncertainty and increasing risk appetite.”
It's also a good idea to throw your old car batteries in the ocean.

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Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:22 am
by Brooklyn
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1313469022663372800


stuart
@stuhunter1
Another trump triumph:

The U.S. trade deficit rose 5.9% to $67.1 billion in August, the highest it has been since August 2006





Right wing America haters rejoice.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:19 am
by Peter Brown
Brooklyn wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:22 am https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1313469022663372800

stuart
@stuhunter1
Another trump triumph:

The U.S. trade deficit rose 5.9% to $67.1 billion in August, the highest it has been since August 2006


Right wing America haters rejoice.



Highly likely to be beyond you and Stewie Hunter and well, all Dems ( :roll: ), but trade deficits are not inherently a 'bad thing'. Trade imbalances are driven by natural market forces and reflect efficient borrowing and lending across the globe. The end result of trade imbalances is higher overall global economic growth. Trade deficits are only a problem when deficits are due to government borrowing. A well-functioning economy like the U.S. (provided Dems don't blow it) trade deficits are not an inherent problem. In fact, we’re better off having trade deficits than imposing tariffs and restrictive trade policies to prevent them. Trade deficits make America great.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:27 pm
by Brooklyn
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:19 am Trade deficits make America great.

Unless there is a Dem in the White Wash House. :lol:

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:36 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:19 am Highly likely to be beyond you and Stewie Hunter and well, all Dems ( :roll: ), but trade deficits are not inherently a 'bad thing'.
It is when our President gave that deficit as the ENTIRE REASON for the Trade War and tariffs with China, Pete.

Whoops, you forgot about that.

Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:19 am Trade deficits are only a problem when deficits are due to government borrowing. A well-functioning economy like the U.S. (provided Dems don't blow it) trade deficits are not an inherent problem
:lol: :lol: :lol: So I take it you didn't bother to see where we were on government borrowing before you posted this? We're about to pass where they were during WWII, Pete.

And you've been CHEERING this on, Pete. Bragging about this entirely borrowed economy.

Vote Trump for more, right?

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:09 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:36 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:19 am Highly likely to be beyond you and Stewie Hunter and well, all Dems ( :roll: ), but trade deficits are not inherently a 'bad thing'.
It is when our President gave that deficit as the ENTIRE REASON for the Trade War and tariffs with China, Pete.

Whoops, you forgot about that.

Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:19 am Trade deficits are only a problem when deficits are due to government borrowing. A well-functioning economy like the U.S. (provided Dems don't blow it) trade deficits are not an inherent problem
:lol: :lol: :lol: So I take it you didn't bother to see where we were on government borrowing before you posted this? We're about to pass where they were during WWII, Pete.

And you've been CHEERING this on, Pete. Bragging about this entirely borrowed economy.

Vote Trump for more, right?



You keep confusing me for a guy who says Trump is omnipotent. Why is that?

I do NOT like Trump's silly trade and tariff bluffs. He is not a deal maker as self-advertised. However nothing he says ever gets done, except for installing proper judges.

Democrats are infinitely worse than Trump. They are anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-Bill of Rights, anti-anything that normal American cherish. They loot, burn down stores, shoot police, flatter anarchists, etc... Democrats are the cancer within the American body politic. Trump can tweet until he's blue in the face...that has never concerned me in the least nor do I hyperventilate when he says something untoward.

Trump is the only insane guy in a sane party. Biden is the only sane guy in an insane party. If Trump doesn't make 4 years, we are in great hands.
If Biden doesn't go 4 years, we are toast. This is how you should vote.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:14 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:09 pm I do NOT like Trump's silly trade and tariff bluffs. He is not a deal maker as self-advertised. However nothing he says ever gets done
Nonsense. I'm paying Trump's fake trade war in tariffs, and have been for months, Pete. What he says is real, and has real life consequences.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:09 pm Democrats are infinitely worse than Trump.
Nope. Not if you believe in free trade as you claim. Who do you think got NAFTA through? That was a little D, Pete. Clinton. And he had plenty of his corporate Dems in the Senate and House that signed on.

All the riots, and burning, and everything else is happening on Trump's watch. And he's not doing anything about it.

And all the spinning in the world won't make that untrue, Pete.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:22 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:14 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:09 pm I do NOT like Trump's silly trade and tariff bluffs. He is not a deal maker as self-advertised. However nothing he says ever gets done
Nonsense. I'm paying Trump's fake trade war in tariffs, and have been for months, Pete. What he says is real, and has real life consequences.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:09 pm Democrats are infinitely worse than Trump.
Nope. Not if you believe in free trade as you claim. Who do you think got NAFTA through? That was a little D, Pete. Clinton. And he had plenty of his corporate Dems in the Senate and House that signed on.

All the riots, and burning, and everything else is happening on Trump's watch. And he's not doing anything about it.

And all the spinning in the world won't make that untrue, Pete.


I know you are a lefty propagandist when you post this nonsense.

100% of the violence is not only being committed by Democrats, but endorsed by Democrats too. Heck, Kamala and Joe's staff are bailing the rioters and looters out of jail!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-f ... ild-abuser

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:27 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:22 pm I know you are a lefty propagandist when you post this nonsense.

100% of the violence is not only being committed by Democrats, but endorsed by Democrats too. Heck, Kamala and Joe's staff are bailing the rioters and looters out of jail!
So what? They're not in power, my man. Trump is.

But, as with so many things.....blame "someone else", and don't hold the actual people in charge accountable.

Just as you give the Dems in these cities a pass for *hitty management.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:30 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:27 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:22 pm I know you are a lefty propagandist when you post this nonsense.

100% of the violence is not only being committed by Democrats, but endorsed by Democrats too. Heck, Kamala and Joe's staff are bailing the rioters and looters out of jail!
So what? They're not in power, my man. Trump is.

But, as with so many things.....blame "someone else", and don't hold the actual people in charge accountable.

Just as you give the Dems in these cities a pass for *hitty management.



Presumably you were all over Obama for the Baltimore murders during his time.................................not.

:roll: