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CU77 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:50 pm There has to be an honest overall assessment.

No one is perfect. On CNN the other day, a black woman was passionately advocating taking down all memorials to Washington, Jefferson, etc. My wife wanted to ask her if she would also want to take down the MLK memorial, given this:
https://theconversation.com/im-an-mlk-s ... ght-118015

This article, published May 2019, has a picture of a King statue with the caption: "Will statues come down? Or will they remain, giving fodder to those who defend Confederate memorials?"

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

I don’t know what to say. It’s not an easy job. Hopefully the pay makes up for it. Find something else to do. When Rochester was thriving economically, were things just as bad?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm That’s it, find another gig. Or heck even work to be a desk or investigative type or serve and protect in one of a million other ways. Marina cop on a boat or whatever. The answer isn’t to ever not act at the highest standard and treat every citizen with dignity and decency, unlike what you read about in Springfield, Mass.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

I don’t know what to say. It’s not an easy job. Hopefully the pay makes up for it. Find something else to do. When Rochester was thriving economically, were things just as bad?

Things have been challenging in Rochester for quite awhile now. It starts with a public school system in shambles. There are alot of good things happening, especially in downtown Rochester. The problem is that when you drive 2 blocks away from downtown, the neighborhoods are really struggling. They are becoming more violent and dangerous all the time. There are 3 streets I primarily drive down to get to work. Clinton Ave. North, Joseph Ave and Hudson Ave. I have not counted all the street corner memorials to people murdered on all 3 streets. There are way too many of them. Balloons, teddy bears , flowers, candles and handwritten messages. It is heartbreaking because it never ends and it never stops. I have spoke here of my nephew. He spent 5 years policing these streets and they beat him down bad. At the end of the day he was suicidal with a really bad drinking problem. I really hope that Black Lives Really do matter. The black lives taken by police offers are beyond a tragedy. There are way to many of these black kids dying on street corners for no damn reason other than someone has a beef with them. What makes it even worse is that outside of their family members... nobody really seems to care about their lives or find justice for the people that take them.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm That’s it, find another gig. Or heck even work to be a desk or investigative type or serve and protect in one of a million other ways. Marina cop on a boat or whatever. The answer isn’t to ever not act at the highest standard and treat every citizen with dignity and decency, unlike what you read about in Springfield, Mass.

The problem is people view these people as less than equal or less than human. Police them hard. Let a Georgetown Prep or Landon lacrosse player get chocked to death by the police and let’s see what happens.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm That’s it, find another gig. Or heck even work to be a desk or investigative type or serve and protect in one of a million other ways. Marina cop on a boat or whatever. The answer isn’t to ever not act at the highest standard and treat every citizen with dignity and decency, unlike what you read about in Springfield, Mass.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:57 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm That’s it, find another gig. Or heck even work to be a desk or investigative type or serve and protect in one of a million other ways. Marina cop on a boat or whatever. The answer isn’t to ever not act at the highest standard and treat every citizen with dignity and decency, unlike what you read about in Springfield, Mass.

The job beats you down. It takes a special type of person, with the right frame of mind to do the job and separate your personal emotions from the every day reality of trying to maintain law and order in a climate not conducive to wanting law and order. My nephew put it perfectly when he said the first time your doing your job and somebody punches you in the face... you spend every other day wondering when you will be punched in the face again or even worse. Some people can accept that and deal with it, many others can't. Somebody has to do the street patrols late at night in the tough parts of town. How any officer adapts to that challenge can never be known until they are punched in the face that very first time.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:49 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

I don’t know what to say. It’s not an easy job. Hopefully the pay makes up for it. Find something else to do. When Rochester was thriving economically, were things just as bad?

Things have been challenging in Rochester for quite awhile now. It starts with a public school system in shambles. There are alot of good things happening, especially in downtown Rochester. The problem is that when you drive 2 blocks away from downtown, the neighborhoods are really struggling. They are becoming more violent and dangerous all the time. There are 3 streets I primarily drive down to get to work. Clinton Ave. North, Joseph Ave and Hudson Ave. I have not counted all the street corner memorials to people murdered on all 3 streets. There are way too many of them. Balloons, teddy bears , flowers, candles and handwritten messages. It is heartbreaking because it never ends and it never stops. I have spoke here of my nephew. He spent 5 years policing these streets and they beat him down bad. At the end of the day he was suicidal with a really bad drinking problem. I really hope that Black Lives Really do matter. The black lives taken by police offers are beyond a tragedy. There are way to many of these black kids dying on street corners for no damn reason other than someone has a beef with them. What makes it even worse is that outside of their family members... nobody really seems to care about their lives or find justice for the people that take them.

When Rochester was thriving economically, how were the schools?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

I don’t know what to say. It’s not an easy job. Hopefully the pay makes up for it. Find something else to do. When Rochester was thriving economically, were things just as bad?

Things have been challenging in Rochester for quite awhile now. It starts with a public school system in shambles. There are alot of good things happening, especially in downtown Rochester. The problem is that when you drive 2 blocks away from downtown, the neighborhoods are really struggling. They are becoming more violent and dangerous all the time. There are 3 streets I primarily drive down to get to work. Clinton Ave. North, Joseph Ave and Hudson Ave. I have not counted all the street corner memorials to people murdered on all 3 streets. There are way too many of them. Balloons, teddy bears , flowers, candles and handwritten messages. It is heartbreaking because it never ends and it never stops. I have spoke here of my nephew. He spent 5 years policing these streets and they beat him down bad. At the end of the day he was suicidal with a really bad drinking problem. I really hope that Black Lives Really do matter. The black lives taken by police offers are beyond a tragedy. There are way to many of these black kids dying on street corners for no damn reason other than someone has a beef with them. What makes it even worse is that outside of their family members... nobody really seems to care about their lives or find justice for the people that take them.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:05 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:49 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

I don’t know what to say. It’s not an easy job. Hopefully the pay makes up for it. Find something else to do. When Rochester was thriving economically, were things just as bad?

Things have been challenging in Rochester for quite awhile now. It starts with a public school system in shambles. There are alot of good things happening, especially in downtown Rochester. The problem is that when you drive 2 blocks away from downtown, the neighborhoods are really struggling. They are becoming more violent and dangerous all the time. There are 3 streets I primarily drive down to get to work. Clinton Ave. North, Joseph Ave and Hudson Ave. I have not counted all the street corner memorials to people murdered on all 3 streets. There are way too many of them. Balloons, teddy bears , flowers, candles and handwritten messages. It is heartbreaking because it never ends and it never stops. I have spoke here of my nephew. He spent 5 years policing these streets and they beat him down bad. At the end of the day he was suicidal with a really bad drinking problem. I really hope that Black Lives Really do matter. The black lives taken by police offers are beyond a tragedy. There are way to many of these black kids dying on street corners for no damn reason other than someone has a beef with them. What makes it even worse is that outside of their family members... nobody really seems to care about their lives or find justice for the people that take them.

When Rochester was thriving economically, how were the schools?

I think all through the 70s the schools were very good. I went to John Marshall HS in 71 when I was in 7th grade. It was a school you had to work hard to get good grades. the exodus of white families to the burbs in the 70s and 80s changed the dynamics of the RCSD. It left those schools with a student population of ever increasing poor kids. through the 90s up until now it has been a very tough road for these schools. Money and resources are harder and harder to come by. Trying to get parents involved in their kids education has been another challenge.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:00 pm I totally feel for your nephew. But I can’t see bending the rules or absolving accountability because a person took the job and then decided to not behave appropriately towards citizens because of an adverse event on the job. The reason we salute police and honor them is because their expected to hold themselves to the highest standards.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:09 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:05 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:49 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

I don’t know what to say. It’s not an easy job. Hopefully the pay makes up for it. Find something else to do. When Rochester was thriving economically, were things just as bad?

Things have been challenging in Rochester for quite awhile now. It starts with a public school system in shambles. There are alot of good things happening, especially in downtown Rochester. The problem is that when you drive 2 blocks away from downtown, the neighborhoods are really struggling. They are becoming more violent and dangerous all the time. There are 3 streets I primarily drive down to get to work. Clinton Ave. North, Joseph Ave and Hudson Ave. I have not counted all the street corner memorials to people murdered on all 3 streets. There are way too many of them. Balloons, teddy bears , flowers, candles and handwritten messages. It is heartbreaking because it never ends and it never stops. I have spoke here of my nephew. He spent 5 years policing these streets and they beat him down bad. At the end of the day he was suicidal with a really bad drinking problem. I really hope that Black Lives Really do matter. The black lives taken by police offers are beyond a tragedy. There are way to many of these black kids dying on street corners for no damn reason other than someone has a beef with them. What makes it even worse is that outside of their family members... nobody really seems to care about their lives or find justice for the people that take them.

When Rochester was thriving economically, how were the schools?

I think all through the 70s the schools were very good. I went to John Marshall HS in 71 when I was in 7th grade. It was a school you had to work hard to get good grades. the exodus of white families to the burbs in the 70s and 80s changed the dynamics of the RCSD. It left those schools with a student population of ever increasing poor kids. through the 90s up until now it has been a very tough road for these schools. Money and resources are harder and harder to come by. Trying to get parents involved in their kids education has been another challenge.

I made a post above. The reason why some of these poor people don’t participate in the child’s education has a very very long tail. Social scientists have studied it.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:19 pm Does he get disability or any other company from the PD?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:25 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:09 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:05 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:49 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm Good old Rochester NY is quickly turning into the wild west. It seems like every street corner block party is turning into a shooting gallery after 2am. The cops are taking a whole new approach. You get the call, finish your cup of coffee and your paper work from the last call. Five or ten minutes later you mosey on over to the shooting scene. By then the black life that does not matter has bled out into the street. The crowd is still ticked off that the police showed up and had the audacity to ask people questions like... who did the shooting? The meatwagon shows up and takes the next customer to the coroners office. The fire department washes the blood out of the street. All done here folks... as you were. Same old story, same old song and dance my friend... Some black lives matter, others.... not all that much.

1. They should be fired.
2. Too many guns with too easy access
3. Are there any anti violence groups working in Rochester?

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york ... e/5782849/

Because this is the new norm for what happens when the police respond. Should this cop be fired? He was responding to a call for assistance and was punched in the face for his efforts. Why should he be fired? he was doing his job trying to find out who did the shooting. Maybe the azzholes who came up with the no snitch rule should be fired? You ever thought about that? I don't blame the cops one little bit if they choose to just let the situation come to its natural conclusion. Nobody seems to want them to do their job. What is wrong with them becoming nothing more than janitors in blue who clean up the mess after the game is over? The police can no longer win. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

# Some Black Lives Matter, Others Not So Much...

Did. He sit around ignoring a call? If so he should be fired. If not, he shouldn’t be. The people that assaulted him should be arrested. Do you believe otherwise? As for guns, I have no problem with gun ownership. We have a problem with the number and access to guns for young people. Less guns, the police don’t fee as vulnerable and perhaps we have less violence all the way around. Seems like a win / win to me.

http://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/juvenilejustice/

I agree with you about guns. Illegal ownership of guns should be come down on like a ton of bricks. I was exaggerating a bit about ignoring the call. The cops are forever frustrated to arrive at these crime scenes and to have to deal with 2 new realities. The people at the crime scene are outright hostile to the police presence. The police are equally as frustrated that despite a hawks eye view of what happened... nobody saw anything. What are the police suppose to do? It becomes the same old routine over and over and over and over and so on. I have no solutions and no answers. I do understand after a period of time that the street cops probably have a hard time really giving a f**k anymore. If the people that live in the neighborhood don't care about justice being done, how can they do their job. To make matters worse, just for showing up you get punched in the face.

I don’t know what to say. It’s not an easy job. Hopefully the pay makes up for it. Find something else to do. When Rochester was thriving economically, were things just as bad?

Things have been challenging in Rochester for quite awhile now. It starts with a public school system in shambles. There are alot of good things happening, especially in downtown Rochester. The problem is that when you drive 2 blocks away from downtown, the neighborhoods are really struggling. They are becoming more violent and dangerous all the time. There are 3 streets I primarily drive down to get to work. Clinton Ave. North, Joseph Ave and Hudson Ave. I have not counted all the street corner memorials to people murdered on all 3 streets. There are way too many of them. Balloons, teddy bears , flowers, candles and handwritten messages. It is heartbreaking because it never ends and it never stops. I have spoke here of my nephew. He spent 5 years policing these streets and they beat him down bad. At the end of the day he was suicidal with a really bad drinking problem. I really hope that Black Lives Really do matter. The black lives taken by police offers are beyond a tragedy. There are way to many of these black kids dying on street corners for no damn reason other than someone has a beef with them. What makes it even worse is that outside of their family members... nobody really seems to care about their lives or find justice for the people that take them.

When Rochester was thriving economically, how were the schools?

I think all through the 70s the schools were very good. I went to John Marshall HS in 71 when I was in 7th grade. It was a school you had to work hard to get good grades. the exodus of white families to the burbs in the 70s and 80s changed the dynamics of the RCSD. It left those schools with a student population of ever increasing poor kids. through the 90s up until now it has been a very tough road for these schools. Money and resources are harder and harder to come by. Trying to get parents involved in their kids education has been another challenge.

I made a post above. The reason why some of these poor people don’t participate in the child’s education has a very very long tail. Social scientists have studied it.

I will admit I have no idea what social scientists have discovered about education. I do understand what my Irish mom expected and demanded of me. She could not have been more involved in my education than she was.