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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:28 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:56 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 pm MD you are going to need a shovel with a longer handle. I am going to have to start calling you "grave digger" yer getting down that deep.

you add so much to the discussion.

You keep adding to the depth of the hole you keep digging. You add nothing to the discussion outside of your ignorance and insulting a career naval officer. I am talking about a person who actually knows and understands the US Navy. You never served, you may have slept at a holiday inn express last night but you are not in the same league as OS when it comes to understanding how the navy works. Your confusing your opinion for actual knowledge. i am picking on you on this very single focused issue. if you were arguing about what it takes to run a successful business, you would have my undivided attention. Why, because you run a successful business. I understand what your opinion is. i have no clue the constant blow back you keep giving to OS. OS has tried repeatedly to enlighten you and you are just too dog gone hard headed to give him the respect he deserves from his career in the navy. It has gone from you not agreeing with him to expending all of your energy to prove he is wrong. i don't understand where you are coming from except to say i respect what OS is saying and on this topic I have zero respect for your opinion. It is your opinion and you are entitled to it. On this one issue you look terribly foolish and almost childish. That is only my opinion and i am entitled to that as well.

sheesh, cradle, Salty's a big boy and is doing just fine in this conversation without your fawning to help him out.

He DOES add considerably to the discussion with all sorts of insights and information.
And then there are his opinions.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:48 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:28 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:56 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 pm MD you are going to need a shovel with a longer handle. I am going to have to start calling you "grave digger" yer getting down that deep.

you add so much to the discussion.

You keep adding to the depth of the hole you keep digging. You add nothing to the discussion outside of your ignorance and insulting a career naval officer. I am talking about a person who actually knows and understands the US Navy. You never served, you may have slept at a holiday inn express last night but you are not in the same league as OS when it comes to understanding how the navy works. Your confusing your opinion for actual knowledge. i am picking on you on this very single focused issue. if you were arguing about what it takes to run a successful business, you would have my undivided attention. Why, because you run a successful business. I understand what your opinion is. i have no clue the constant blow back you keep giving to OS. OS has tried repeatedly to enlighten you and you are just too dog gone hard headed to give him the respect he deserves from his career in the navy. It has gone from you not agreeing with him to expending all of your energy to prove he is wrong. i don't understand where you are coming from except to say i respect what OS is saying and on this topic I have zero respect for your opinion. It is your opinion and you are entitled to it. On this one issue you look terribly foolish and almost childish. That is only my opinion and i am entitled to that as well.

sheesh, cradle, Salty's a big boy and is doing just fine in this conversation without your fawning to help him out.

He DOES add considerably to the discussion with all sorts of insights and information.
And then there are his opinions.

I know salty can do just fine. He is too much of a gentleman to put you in your place using terms that are not exactly gentleman like. Myself, i am under no such limitations. I am always happy to knock you down a few pegs when you need it. Brother, right now you sure do need it. of course as you know, those are my opinions as well.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:13 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:48 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:28 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:56 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:32 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 pm MD you are going to need a shovel with a longer handle. I am going to have to start calling you "grave digger" yer getting down that deep.

you add so much to the discussion.

You keep adding to the depth of the hole you keep digging. You add nothing to the discussion outside of your ignorance and insulting a career naval officer. I am talking about a person who actually knows and understands the US Navy. You never served, you may have slept at a holiday inn express last night but you are not in the same league as OS when it comes to understanding how the navy works. Your confusing your opinion for actual knowledge. i am picking on you on this very single focused issue. if you were arguing about what it takes to run a successful business, you would have my undivided attention. Why, because you run a successful business. I understand what your opinion is. i have no clue the constant blow back you keep giving to OS. OS has tried repeatedly to enlighten you and you are just too dog gone hard headed to give him the respect he deserves from his career in the navy. It has gone from you not agreeing with him to expending all of your energy to prove he is wrong. i don't understand where you are coming from except to say i respect what OS is saying and on this topic I have zero respect for your opinion. It is your opinion and you are entitled to it. On this one issue you look terribly foolish and almost childish. That is only my opinion and i am entitled to that as well.

sheesh, cradle, Salty's a big boy and is doing just fine in this conversation without your fawning to help him out.

He DOES add considerably to the discussion with all sorts of insights and information.
And then there are his opinions.

I know salty can do just fine. He is too much of a gentleman to put you in your place using terms that are not exactly gentleman like. Myself, i am under no such limitations. I am always happy to knock you down a few pegs when you need it. Brother, right now you sure do need it. of course as you know, those are my opinions as well.

If it makes you feel better, cradle, to think you've knocked me down a few pegs, glad to be of service.
We could all use a little joy in our lives.

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/13/truman ... infections

Loiselle told reporters that typically there would be a decline in morale if a ship’s deployment were extended, but he said that hasn’t been the case this time. The sailors have seen news from back home about the devastation the virus has caused, and it’s easier for the crew to understand the need to stay healthy and ready compared to other deployment extensions caused by geopolitical considerations.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:27 pm Whoa Nellie ! The Truman carrier strike group, returning from it's second deployment without a maint period, will remain at sea off the E coast to stay op-ready & covid free. This article details the extraordinary precautions they've been taking, & will continue to take, to remain covid free.

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/13/truman ... infections

Loiselle told reporters that typically there would be a decline in morale if a ship’s deployment were extended, but he said that hasn’t been the case this time. The sailors have seen news from back home about the devastation the virus has caused, and it’s easier for the crew to understand the need to stay healthy and ready compared to other deployment extensions caused by geopolitical considerations.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:37 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:27 pm Whoa Nellie ! The Truman carrier strike group, returning from it's second deployment without a maint period, will remain at sea off the E coast to stay op-ready & covid free. This article details the extraordinary precautions they've been taking, & will continue to take, to remain covid free.

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/13/truman ... infections

Loiselle told reporters that typically there would be a decline in morale if a ship’s deployment were extended, but he said that hasn’t been the case this time. The sailors have seen news from back home about the devastation the virus has caused, and it’s easier for the crew to understand the need to stay healthy and ready compared to other deployment extensions caused by geopolitical considerations.

Eventually, they will have to consider ways to make "shore" (or a portion thereof) safe so going off ship can happen. Will have to insure that replacement sailors have a clean bill of health (COVID free or immune).

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:55 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:37 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:27 pm Whoa Nellie ! The Truman carrier strike group, returning from it's second deployment without a maint period, will remain at sea off the E coast to stay op-ready & covid free. This article details the extraordinary precautions they've been taking, & will continue to take, to remain covid free.

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/13/truman ... infections

Loiselle told reporters that typically there would be a decline in morale if a ship’s deployment were extended, but he said that hasn’t been the case this time. The sailors have seen news from back home about the devastation the virus has caused, and it’s easier for the crew to understand the need to stay healthy and ready compared to other deployment extensions caused by geopolitical considerations.

Eventually, they will have to consider ways to make "shore" (or a portion thereof) safe so going off ship can happen. Will have to insure that replacement sailors have a clean bill of health (COVID free or immune).

Remember this tv show ? I tired of it after season #1. Not so implausible now.

https://www.tntdrama.com/shows/the-last-ship

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:07 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:55 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:37 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:27 pm Whoa Nellie ! The Truman carrier strike group, returning from it's second deployment without a maint period, will remain at sea off the E coast to stay op-ready & covid free. This article details the extraordinary precautions they've been taking, & will continue to take, to remain covid free.

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/13/truman ... infections

Loiselle told reporters that typically there would be a decline in morale if a ship’s deployment were extended, but he said that hasn’t been the case this time. The sailors have seen news from back home about the devastation the virus has caused, and it’s easier for the crew to understand the need to stay healthy and ready compared to other deployment extensions caused by geopolitical considerations.

Eventually, they will have to consider ways to make "shore" (or a portion thereof) safe so going off ship can happen. Will have to insure that replacement sailors have a clean bill of health (COVID free or immune).

Remember this tv show ? I tired of it after season #1. Not so implausible now.

https://www.tntdrama.com/shows/the-last-ship

Loved the first season as well. I had forgotten about this one. You think they knew something?

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:55 pm
Remember this tv show ? I tired of it after season #1. Not so implausible now.

https://www.tntdrama.com/shows/the-last-ship

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:45 pm Highly informative Pentagon press conference today.
The plan is to keep the Truman strike group at sea until the Nimitz strike group is ready to sail in about 3 weeks.
Refreshing to see how much info can be elicited by a non-partisan professional press corps.

https://www.facebook.com/DeptofDefense/ ... =2&theater

Jim Malone wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:55 pm I do and watched it through last episode.

It was probably hard to watch for a career Navy type dude; but, I found it to be a off the wall indulgence.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:55 pm
Remember this tv show ? I tired of it after season #1. Not so implausible now.

https://www.tntdrama.com/shows/the-last-ship

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:45 pm Highly informative Pentagon press conference today.
The plan is to keep the Truman strike group at sea until the Nimitz strike group is ready to sail in about 3 weeks.
Refreshing to see how much info can be elicited by a non-partisan professional press corps.

https://www.facebook.com/DeptofDefense/ ... =2&theater

Refreshing to hear fully articulated questions actually get answered with clarity and certainly the appearance of straight talk.
I didn't listen to the whole thing (yet), skipped around some, but got the flavor.

Know what was missing?
Trump.

These are tough minded journalists, asking the questions that address the issues in front of them.
Same as at the White House.

Lie and dissemble with these journalists and you'll get the exact same response as Trump gets.
Be straight and of good humor, you get that in return.

Trump creates the circus, thinks it helps him.
Sadly, it does with some Americans.

Thanks for sharing, Salty.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:12 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:45 pm Highly informative Pentagon press conference today.
The plan is to keep the Truman strike group at sea until the Nimitz strike group is ready to sail in about 3 weeks.
Refreshing to see how much info can be elicited by a non-partisan professional press corps.

https://www.facebook.com/DeptofDefense/ ... =2&theater

Refreshing to hear fully articulated questions actually get answered with clarity and certainly the appearance of straight talk.
I didn't listen to the whole thing (yet), skipped around some, but got the flavor.

Know what was missing?
Trump.

These are tough minded journalists, asking the questions that address the issues in front of them.
Same as at the White House.

Lie and dissemble with these journalists and you'll get the exact same response as Trump gets.
Be straight and of good humor, you get that in return.

Trump creates the circus, thinks it helps him.
Sadly, it does with some Americans.

Thanks for sharing, Salty.

Did you catch when the call in reporter from Task & Purpose chided Esper with the question about asking a Marine Lance Corporal about haircuts & all the waste of time things the USMC does (or words to that effect). Esper took it in stride, acknowledged the reporter by his first name, asked if he was trying to trick him (the SecDef) into establishing haircut policy, then bounced the question to the General. Subsequently it came out that the video of the barber shop at a Marine base which elicited the question was old B roll. The entire room had a good laugh.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:58 pm I look forward to what Esper says at next weeks defense ministers meeting (via video, I presume)

I hope he rallies our EU allies to demand China give access to international investigators into the origins of the virus, ...or else.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:38 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:12 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:45 pm Highly informative Pentagon press conference today.
The plan is to keep the Truman strike group at sea until the Nimitz strike group is ready to sail in about 3 weeks.
Refreshing to see how much info can be elicited by a non-partisan professional press corps.

https://www.facebook.com/DeptofDefense/ ... =2&theater

Refreshing to hear fully articulated questions actually get answered with clarity and certainly the appearance of straight talk.
I didn't listen to the whole thing (yet), skipped around some, but got the flavor.

Know what was missing?
Trump.

These are tough minded journalists, asking the questions that address the issues in front of them.
Same as at the White House.

Lie and dissemble with these journalists and you'll get the exact same response as Trump gets.
Be straight and of good humor, you get that in return.

Trump creates the circus, thinks it helps him.
Sadly, it does with some Americans.

Thanks for sharing, Salty.

Did you catch when the call in reporter from Task & Purpose chided Esper with the question about asking a Marine Lance Corporal about haircuts & all the waste of time things the USMC does (or words to that effect). Esper took it in stride, acknowledged the reporter by his first name, asked if he was trying to trick him (the SecDef) into establishing haircut policy, then bounced the question to the General. Subsequently it came out that the video of the barber shop at a Marine base which elicited the question was old B roll. The entire room had a good laugh.

I did. It was indeed all handled rather adroitly and with good humor, including by the press corps.

That's the way to interact with the press. Let them ask their questions fully, answer fulsomely, and if you can do so at the appropriate time with a friendly joke, great. Just be sure to also exhibit real caring about the people on the line, which I thought these guys pulled off well, too. Be empathetic, but don't take your own self too seriously.

Is that your perception too?

Again, thanks for posting.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:38 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:12 pm
Did you catch when the call in reporter from Task & Purpose chided Esper with the question about asking a Marine Lance Corporal about haircuts & all the waste of time things the USMC does (or words to that effect). Esper took it in stride, acknowledged the reporter by his first name, asked if he was trying to trick him (the SecDef) into establishing haircut policy, then bounced the question to the General. Subsequently it came out that the video of the barber shop at a Marine base which elicited the question was old B roll. The entire room had a good laugh.

I did. It was indeed all handled rather adroitly and with good humor, including by the press corps.

That's the way to interact with the press. Let them ask their questions fully, answer fulsomely, and if you can do so at the appropriate time with a friendly joke, great. Just be sure to also exhibit real caring about the people on the line, which I thought these guys pulled off well, too. Be empathetic, but don't take your own self too seriously.

Is that your perception too?

Again, thanks for posting.