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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:43 pm
by SCLaxAttack
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:14 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:34 pm
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:16 pm
Hard to avoid a guilty verdict in a town that went 90% plus for the guy they tried to stop from being sworn in. No wonder the DOJ has such a high win rate. Wonder what the verdict might have been in Polk County, FL or Enid, OK?
I take this to mean that you don't think these guys were guilty? Photo of the guy with his feet on Nancy's desk isn't enough for you?
That's a long way to seditious conspiracy, my friend. Trespassing, probably. With the DOJ involved, justice is not blind, and if you don't believe that, then with all due respect, you are blind,
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin
Or they're saying stupid stuff just to troll.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:23 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:16 pm
or
Brooklyn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:03 pm
Guilty!
Moment of clarity:
““I made some bad mistakes and I regret them but I don’t think I broke the law,” Barnett said Friday. “I feel like a f------ idiot.””
I wonder if Trump will help him out?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:33 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:34 pm
by HooDat
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:23 pm
I wonder if Trump will help him out?
there is only
ONE person Trump helps out..... himself....
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:47 pm
by Kismet
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:14 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:34 pm
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:16 pm
Hard to avoid a guilty verdict in a town that went 90% plus for the guy they tried to stop from being sworn in. No wonder the DOJ has such a high win rate. Wonder what the verdict might have been in Polk County, FL or Enid, OK?
I take this to mean that you don't think these guys were guilty? Photo of the guy with his feet on Nancy's desk isn't enough for you?
That's a long way to seditious conspiracy, my friend. Trespassing, probably. With the DOJ involved, justice is not blind, and if you don't believe that, then with all due respect, you are blind,
Eyesight is fine. That isn't what this Einstein was charged with. He's is on video committing the crimes he was charged with. Eight other felonies and the jury deliberated for only two hours. In America,you go on trial where you commit the crimes you're charged with and you have a right to pick the jury. He didn't argue on the selection of the jurors and now its sour grapes because they didn't believe him. He deserves whatever he gets.
Not sure why you think he should have been acquitted. Feel free to elaborate.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:13 pm
by PizzaSnake
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:14 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:34 pm
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:16 pm
Hard to avoid a guilty verdict in a town that went 90% plus for the guy they tried to stop from being sworn in. No wonder the DOJ has such a high win rate. Wonder what the verdict might have been in Polk County, FL or Enid, OK?
I take this to mean that you don't think these guys were guilty? Photo of the guy with his feet on Nancy's desk isn't enough for you?
That's a long way to seditious conspiracy, my friend. Trespassing, probably. With the DOJ involved, justice is not blind, and if you don't believe that, then with all due respect, you are blind,
Let me help. Besides the obvious point raised by others that this brain surgeon wasn't charged with seditious conspiracy, there is the little matter of the Jury Selection and Service Act of 1968.
"It is the policy of the United States that all litigants in Federal courts entitled to trial by jury shall have the right to grand and petit juries selected at random
from a fair cross section of the community in the district or division wherein the court convenes. "
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1861
My advice would be to not commit crimes in the communities whose political leanings you feel are inimicable to your "cause".
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:20 pm
by get it to x
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:13 pm
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:14 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:34 pm
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:16 pm
Hard to avoid a guilty verdict in a town that went 90% plus for the guy they tried to stop from being sworn in. No wonder the DOJ has such a high win rate. Wonder what the verdict might have been in Polk County, FL or Enid, OK?
I take this to mean that you don't think these guys were guilty? Photo of the guy with his feet on Nancy's desk isn't enough for you?
That's a long way to seditious conspiracy, my friend. Trespassing, probably. With the DOJ involved, justice is not blind, and if you don't believe that, then with all due respect, you are blind,
Let me help. Besides the obvious point raised by others that this brain surgeon wasn't charged with seditious conspiracy, there is the little matter of the Jury Selection and Service Act of 1968.
"It is the policy of the United States that all litigants in Federal courts entitled to trial by jury shall have the right to grand and petit juries selected at random
from a fair cross section of the community in the district or division wherein the court convenes. "
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1861
My advice would be to not commit crimes in the communities whose political leanings you feel are inimicable to your "cause".
You made my point for me, thanks.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:29 pm
by lagerhead
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:23 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:16 pm
or
Brooklyn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:03 pm
Guilty!
Moment of clarity:
““I made some bad mistakes and I regret them but I don’t think I broke the law,” Barnett said Friday. “I feel like a f------ idiot.””
I wonder if Trump will help him out?
He was just performing an exorcism in pelosis office
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:31 pm
by a fan
lagerhead wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:29 pm
He was just performing an exorcism in pelosi's office
Got her out of the Speakership, so it only half-worked.
Missed the target, hit the tree.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:32 pm
by a fan
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:20 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:13 pm
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:14 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:34 pm
get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:16 pm
Hard to avoid a guilty verdict in a town that went 90% plus for the guy they tried to stop from being sworn in. No wonder the DOJ has such a high win rate. Wonder what the verdict might have been in Polk County, FL or Enid, OK?
I take this to mean that you don't think these guys were guilty? Photo of the guy with his feet on Nancy's desk isn't enough for you?
That's a long way to seditious conspiracy, my friend. Trespassing, probably. With the DOJ involved, justice is not blind, and if you don't believe that, then with all due respect, you are blind,
Let me help. Besides the obvious point raised by others that this brain surgeon wasn't charged with seditious conspiracy, there is the little matter of the Jury Selection and Service Act of 1968.
"It is the policy of the United States that all litigants in Federal courts entitled to trial by jury shall have the right to grand and petit juries selected at random
from a fair cross section of the community in the district or division wherein the court convenes. "
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1861
My advice would be to not commit crimes in the communities whose political leanings you feel are inimicable to your "cause".
You made my point for me, thanks.
Eh...I don't think so. Or are you telling us that you'd prefer that Federal prosecutions "forum shop" for venues that are always friendly to the defendant?
I don't think that's what you mean here.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
by old salt
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:42 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Did you get it back?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:55 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:42 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Did you get it back?
https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-bre ... -on-jan-6/
...are accused of entering the building through the Senate Wing Door at around 2:20 p.m. that day, just minutes after the initial breach...
According to prosecutors, they went to the Rotunda and Statuary Hall, at one point placing a pro-Trump “Make America Great Again” hat on a statue and taking pictures with it.
They stayed inside for about 52 minutes before police formed a line in the Rotunda and directed people to leave, prosecutors allege.
They are each charged with four misdemeanors: entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.
Like so many other Jan. 6 defendants, Coomer may have contributed to his own undoing by posting about his Capitol exploits on social media.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:00 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:42 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Did you get it back?
https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-bre ... -on-jan-6/
...are accused of entering the building through the Senate Wing Door at around 2:20 p.m. that day, just minutes after the initial breach...
According to prosecutors, they went to the Rotunda and Statuary Hall, at one point placing a pro-Trump “Make America Great Again” hat on a statue and taking pictures with it.
They stayed inside for about 52 minutes before police formed a line in the Rotunda and directed people to leave, prosecutors allege.
They are each charged with four misdemeanors: entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.
Like so many other Jan. 6 defendants, Coomer may have contributed to his own undoing by posting about his Capitol exploits on social media.
You get your hat back?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:07 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Jails are packed full of people who are bad at committing crimes, OS. They're hardly alone. Just because they're idiots.... or matter that what they were trying to do was stupid and laughable, doesn't mean "it doesn't count".
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:13 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:07 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Jails are packed full of people who are bad at committing crimes, OS. They're hardly alone. Just because they're idiots.... or matter that what they were trying to do was stupid and laughable, doesn't mean "it doesn't count".
...didn't mean to annoy you with additional info to place these misdemeanor charges in perspective.
How much jail time would you give them ?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:23 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:13 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:07 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Jails are packed full of people who are bad at committing crimes, OS. They're hardly alone. Just because they're idiots.... or matter that what they were trying to do was stupid and laughable, doesn't mean "it doesn't count".
...didn't mean to annoy you with additional info to place these misdemeanor charges in perspective.
How much jail time would you give them ?
Whatever the sentence guidelines called for…and since I pay their salaries, the toughest end of the spectrum….then a dishonorable discharge.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:31 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:23 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:13 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:07 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Jails are packed full of people who are bad at committing crimes, OS. They're hardly alone. Just because they're idiots.... or matter that what they were trying to do was stupid and laughable, doesn't mean "it doesn't count".
...didn't mean to annoy you with additional info to place these misdemeanor charges in perspective.
How much jail time would you give them ?
Whatever the sentence guidelines called for…and since I pay their salaries, the toughest end of the spectrum….then a dishonorable discharge.
Dishonorable discharge for misdemeanor disorderly conduct ?
For precedent, what was the disposition & sentence for these alleged felony rioters ?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/upda ... t-columbia
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/loca ... 887cf4c663
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:36 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:31 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:23 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:13 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:07 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 pm
They placed a MAGA hat on a statue in the Capitol. That's some big time espionage & sedition.
Jails are packed full of people who are bad at committing crimes, OS. They're hardly alone. Just because they're idiots.... or matter that what they were trying to do was stupid and laughable, doesn't mean "it doesn't count".
...didn't mean to annoy you with additional info to place these misdemeanor charges in perspective.
How much jail time would you give them ?
Whatever the sentence guidelines called for…and since I pay their salaries, the toughest end of the spectrum….then a dishonorable discharge.
Dishonorable discharge for misdemeanor disorderly conduct ?
For precedent, what was the disposition & sentence for these alleged felony rioters ?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/upda ... t-columbia
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/loca ... 887cf4c663
Yes. I hold military personnel to a higher standard than a civilian. Don’t you? You get your hat back?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:46 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
