Re: SCOTUS
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 9:05 am
... they have no as in ZERO institutional integrity KellyAnne.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 8:46 amSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 8:26 amRespectfully, I just have to say: you should read posts with care before you shoot off a pre-destined little mouth rocket like this. Nowhere did I or NJBill say that the leak was unimportant. Speaking for myself, the importance of the leak pales in comparison to the draft opinion, which would/will dismantle 50 years of relatively steady, predictable law, which allowed a woman to terminate a pregnancy under limited circumstances and which allowed the states to modestly regulate around the edges of that erstwhile "constitutional" right.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 7:53 amSo the leak does not bother you???? If it serves your purpose then all is good. You are willing to sacrifice the credibility of the SCOTUS to achieve a desired goal. Good Job!!!!Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 7:15 amGreat post. +100njbill wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 12:55 am All of the speculation about who leaked the draft and why is interesting, but none of that changes the unassailable fact that Alito got five votes at the conference to overturn Roe.
Roberts did not agree to overturn Roe. Had he, he would have kept such an important decision to himself because he knew he would write a “moderate” opinion, certainly one more temperate than Alito’s scorched earth draft.
Interesting to me that Thomas assigned the decision to Alito who, I would guess, begged for it.
Alito is fully prepared to moderate his opinion. He threw out his repugnant draft to see what would stick. If any of the other four even hints at defecting, he’ll soften his language.
I don’t hold out any real hope that Kav or Gorsuch or Amy B will flip. First of all, they knew full well what was at stake when they voted in conference. They certainly know of the seismic importance of the case, both legally and in society. Leaking the opinion is not going to get anyone to change their mind. Is there any way to get anyone in this country to change their mind about Roe? No.
And lastly, before any of those three were nominated, they met in private with the Anti-Women Nazis and assured them that, yes, they would vote to overturn Roe, though they told the Nazis that they would have to deny that in meetings with gullible Senators like Susan Collins and in testimony before the Judiciary Committee. Keep an “open mind” about the issue, my ass.
I don’t know if I will live long enough to see this abomination of conservative judicial activism overturned. But it will be. If not in 10 or 20 or 50 years, it will happen eventually. This decision ranks up there (or down there) with Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson. It is the worst Supreme Court decision in my lifetime. Even worse than Heller, which itself will be overturned in time.
So there is a leak at the Supreme Court. Hmmm. Compared to the deliberate, knowing decision to place a woman's "right" to control the most intimate and basic decisions about the rest of her life in the hands of legislatures like Mississippi and Oklahoma and Tennessee? Compared to the patchwork quilt of differing laws across the states, rather than uniformity and predictability in the law? Compared to the fact that the effects of the decision will be felt among the poorest, most voiceless and most vulnerable of the population? C'mon. Be serious.
I note that the Idiot has yet to cite any source to back with facts the notion that "Sotomajor's leftist clerk" leaked the draft. But you got right on that bandwagon; pretty telling.
Anyone cheering on the premeditated leaking of a draft legal opinion by judges or justices in closed deliberations in the hopes of bringing political and mob/street pressure to bear on such deliberations, compromising their independence and institutional integrity, is repulsive.
That the leak of the draft opinion has not been universally condemned is a bigger outrage than whatever your views are about what’s in the opinion. It shows that our separation of powers, co-equal branch, federalist system has broken down. Media is especially irresponsible here.
BR