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Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
that sucks
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njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:00 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:40 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
If World rules are still the same, she cannot be replaced on the roster by another healthy player who was not on the original submitted roster on the first day of the tournament.
Why do teams have alternates, then? The two American alternates have been on the sidelines of all of the games. Maybe there is a time frame for replacing an injured player, but I can’t think of any other reason for there to be alternates.
I think there are 4 alternates. So Kent cant replace KO?
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Dr. Tact wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:44 pm
Lax247 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:41 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Yawn. As predicted easy run to finals where they will beat....whoever by 10.
Question - how does this help them get into olympics when it seems like there is no world competition. Even if they change format?
I hate to say it, but top 5 D1 teams would likely be second in this tourney
I think you can go deeper than the top 5 finishing 2nd
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user1020 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am
Dr. Tact wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:44 pm
Lax247 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:41 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Yawn. As predicted easy run to finals where they will beat....whoever by 10.
Question - how does this help them get into olympics when it seems like there is no world competition. Even if they change format?
I hate to say it, but top 5 D1 teams would likely be second in this tourney
I think you go deeper than top 5 finishing 2nd
Where would this year's UNC team finish in this tournament? definitely 2nd..Nalls plays for england and is one their best defenders. Brooklyn Walker-Welch is 18 and already a key starter for Cananda. Ally Mastroianni and Emma Trenchard are on team USA. Can make an argument for Ortega for being on that team. Every other player on that team is better than most of the players in this tournament. It's not even close. BC would be a challenging team and probably 3rd or 4th. After that i think the field evens out. i can see canada, england, and maybe japan beating most D1 schools
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Kleizaster wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:58 am i can see canada, england, and maybe japan beating most D1 schools
It'd be fun to have these national teams play in the Women's NCAA Tourney.
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Matnum PI wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:00 am
Kleizaster wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:58 am i can see canada, england, and maybe japan beating most D1 schools
It'd be fun to have these national teams play in the Women's NCAA Tourney.
I think the games would be close, but I think the age of the players on the national team would prove a downside. The college students are in top shape and playing lacrosse 6-7 days of the week during the season
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Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:00 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:40 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
If World rules are still the same, she cannot be replaced on the roster by another healthy player who was not on the original submitted roster on the first day of the tournament.
Why do teams have alternates, then? The two American alternates have been on the sidelines of all of the games. Maybe there is a time frame for replacing an injured player, but I can’t think of any other reason for there to be alternates.
I think there are 4 alternates. So Kent cant replace KO?
Additional alternates cannot be added to the active roster after the first day of competition when active rosters are submitted to. Those were (and I assume still are) the rules set by World Lacrosse. It's why you always sweat out when you don't have a third goalie on the tournament roster
if you lose one to injury during the event.

A link to the roster
https://www.womensworldlax2022.com/spor ... -23/roster

20 players listed. No alternates.

If you don't believe me, check the USA roster for the championship game. If there are no additions to replace Ohmiller you will have a confirmation.
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Matnum PI wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:00 am
Kleizaster wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:58 am i can see canada, england, and maybe japan beating most D1 schools
It'd be fun to have these national teams play in the Women's NCAA Tourney.
I’m assuming current NCAA athletes would be suiting up for their country?
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user1020 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:09 am I think the games would be close, but I think the age of the players on the national team would prove a downside. The college students are in top shape and playing lacrosse 6-7 days of the week during the season
No doubt. You see it with the National teams in the tourney. Most every team improves a lot as the tourney progresses. Because... They haven't played, let alone played together, so much before the tourney.
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Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:15 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:00 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:40 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
If World rules are still the same, she cannot be replaced on the roster by another healthy player who was not on the original submitted roster on the first day of the tournament.
Why do teams have alternates, then? The two American alternates have been on the sidelines of all of the games. Maybe there is a time frame for replacing an injured player, but I can’t think of any other reason for there to be alternates.
I think there are 4 alternates. So Kent cant replace KO?
Alternates cannot be added to the active roster after the first day of competition when active rosters are submitted to. Those were (and I assume still are) the rules set by World Lacrosse.

A link to the roster
https://www.womensworldlax2022.com/spor ... -23/roster

20 players listed. No alternates.

If you don't believe me, check the USA roster for the championship game. If there are no additions to replace Ohmiller you will have a confirmation.
This is not correct. Olivia Parker was an alternate for Australia and played last night and scored a goal at end. It's why there was such a joyous celebration after her goal. Each roster is 18 plus 2 alternates for a total of 20.

If you've noticed Kenzie Kent and Haley Warden have been on the sideline each game but not dressed. One of the two will be activated for the championship game.
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hmmm wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:23 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:15 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:00 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:40 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
If World rules are still the same, she cannot be replaced on the roster by another healthy player who was not on the original submitted roster on the first day of the tournament.
Why do teams have alternates, then? The two American alternates have been on the sidelines of all of the games. Maybe there is a time frame for replacing an injured player, but I can’t think of any other reason for there to be alternates.
I think there are 4 alternates. So Kent cant replace KO?
Alternates cannot be added to the active roster after the first day of competition when active rosters are submitted to. Those were (and I assume still are) the rules set by World Lacrosse.

A link to the roster
https://www.womensworldlax2022.com/spor ... -23/roster

20 players listed. No alternates.

If you don't believe me, check the USA roster for the championship game. If there are no additions to replace Ohmiller you will have a confirmation.
This is not correct. Olivia Parker was an alternate for Australia and played last night and scored a goal at end. It's why there was such a joyous celebration after her goal. Each roster is 18 plus 2 alternates for a total of 20.
Pardon for me not being clear. 20 is the roster. Two inactives for every game. But no additional beyond 20 after the tournament starts.
So, for example, if you lost one of your goalies in this case, you could add an alternate to your active 18 but if your 20 doesn't include 3 goalies you would have to play with one goalie or convert another roster player to a goalie. That was my point. Apologies for not being clear.
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Hmm, I think you are right, but I guess we will find out soon enough.

Surely all sports have roster rules. Obviously, you can’t add a player during a game to replace someone who got injured, but generally speaking, I think rules usually allow an injured player to be replaced within a short period of time following the conclusion of the game in which year he or she got hurt.
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Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:30 am
hmmm wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:23 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:15 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:00 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:40 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
If World rules are still the same, she cannot be replaced on the roster by another healthy player who was not on the original submitted roster on the first day of the tournament.
Why do teams have alternates, then? The two American alternates have been on the sidelines of all of the games. Maybe there is a time frame for replacing an injured player, but I can’t think of any other reason for there to be alternates.
I think there are 4 alternates. So Kent cant replace KO?
Alternates cannot be added to the active roster after the first day of competition when active rosters are submitted to. Those were (and I assume still are) the rules set by World Lacrosse.

A link to the roster
https://www.womensworldlax2022.com/spor ... -23/roster

20 players listed. No alternates.

If you don't believe me, check the USA roster for the championship game. If there are no additions to replace Ohmiller you will have a confirmation.
This is not correct. Olivia Parker was an alternate for Australia and played last night and scored a goal at end. It's why there was such a joyous celebration after her goal. Each roster is 18 plus 2 alternates for a total of 20.
Pardon for me not being clear. 20 is the roster. Two inactives for every game. But no additional beyond 20 after the tournament starts.
So, for example, if you lost one of your goalies in this case, you could add an alternate to your active 18 but if your 20 doesn't include 3 goalies you would have to play with one goalie or convert another roster player to a goalie. That was my point. Apologies for not being clear.
Point is, either Kenzie Kent or Haley Warden can play in KOs place tomorrow which was the question people were asking. Kent and Warden are alternates, they are not considered rostered players and can only be activated to replace an injured player.
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Got to be really tough for Japan to be playing today.
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njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:35 am Hmm, I think you are right, but I guess we will find out soon enough.

Surely all sports have roster rules. Obviously, you can’t add a player during a game to replace someone who got injured, but generally speaking, I think rules usually allow an injured player to be replaced within a short period of time following the conclusion of the game in which year he or she got hurt.
You'd think so but its not the way it is (unless they have changed the roster rules). Having been on staff for 2 WCs, I'm not totally spitballing here, as I am familiar with how the roster rules worked in the past (as that was one of my designated responsibilities and we lost a goalie in the round robin and had to play the rest of the tournament with only one goalie). Also why I indicated that the roster rules may have changed since then but no way to know for sure until they publish the active roster for the championship the day of.

HINT: I cannot find a listing of any rosters beyond the 20 with additional alternates
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hmmm wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:36 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:30 am
hmmm wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:23 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:15 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:00 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:40 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
If World rules are still the same, she cannot be replaced on the roster by another healthy player who was not on the original submitted roster on the first day of the tournament.
Why do teams have alternates, then? The two American alternates have been on the sidelines of all of the games. Maybe there is a time frame for replacing an injured player, but I can’t think of any other reason for there to be alternates.
I think there are 4 alternates. So Kent cant replace KO?
Alternates cannot be added to the active roster after the first day of competition when active rosters are submitted to. Those were (and I assume still are) the rules set by World Lacrosse.

A link to the roster
https://www.womensworldlax2022.com/spor ... -23/roster

20 players listed. No alternates.

If you don't believe me, check the USA roster for the championship game. If there are no additions to replace Ohmiller you will have a confirmation.
This is not correct. Olivia Parker was an alternate for Australia and played last night and scored a goal at end. It's why there was such a joyous celebration after her goal. Each roster is 18 plus 2 alternates for a total of 20.
Pardon for me not being clear. 20 is the roster. Two inactives for every game. But no additional beyond 20 after the tournament starts.
So, for example, if you lost one of your goalies in this case, you could add an alternate to your active 18 but if your 20 doesn't include 3 goalies you would have to play with one goalie or convert another roster player to a goalie. That was my point. Apologies for not being clear.
Point is, either Kenzie Kent or Haley Warden can play in KOs place tomorrow which was the question people were asking. Kent and Warden are alternates, they are not considered rostered players and can only be activated to replace an injured player.
Assume Kent since she is a leftie attacker....
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hmmm wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:36 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:30 am
hmmm wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:23 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:15 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:00 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:40 am
Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:34 am
glaxer24 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DMac wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 pm17-2 final.
Holy smokes. Any word on KO?
Wondering the same
KO- Torn ACL, Torn MCL
If World rules are still the same, she cannot be replaced on the roster by another healthy player who was not on the original submitted roster on the first day of the tournament.
Why do teams have alternates, then? The two American alternates have been on the sidelines of all of the games. Maybe there is a time frame for replacing an injured player, but I can’t think of any other reason for there to be alternates.
I think there are 4 alternates. So Kent cant replace KO?
Alternates cannot be added to the active roster after the first day of competition when active rosters are submitted to. Those were (and I assume still are) the rules set by World Lacrosse.

A link to the roster
https://www.womensworldlax2022.com/spor ... -23/roster

20 players listed. No alternates.

If you don't believe me, check the USA roster for the championship game. If there are no additions to replace Ohmiller you will have a confirmation.
This is not correct. Olivia Parker was an alternate for Australia and played last night and scored a goal at end. It's why there was such a joyous celebration after her goal. Each roster is 18 plus 2 alternates for a total of 20.
Pardon for me not being clear. 20 is the roster. Two inactives for every game. But no additional beyond 20 after the tournament starts.
So, for example, if you lost one of your goalies in this case, you could add an alternate to your active 18 but if your 20 doesn't include 3 goalies you would have to play with one goalie or convert another roster player to a goalie. That was my point. Apologies for not being clear.
Point is, either Kenzie Kent or Haley Warden can play in KOs place tomorrow which was the question people were asking. Kent and Warden are alternates, they are not considered rostered players and can only be activated to replace an injured player.
Quite right. Thx for the clarification and again for my rather long-winded explanation of roster rules.
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Kismet, I think we are all clear now. I think some of us (myself included) may have been inadvertently talking past others.

I was talking about the two alternates being allowed to be activated. I was not talking about adding a 21st non-rostered player during the World Cup. I have never understood that is permitted. I do recall, from time to time, alternates being promoted to the active roster during the course of the World Cup. I was really just limiting my comments to that.

And, yes, your goalie comment is absolutely a concern. Perhaps if they expand the rosters to 23 players as has been discussed on the broadcasts, teams will carry a third goalie.
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Laxfan500 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:44 am Assume Kent since she is a leftie attacker....
A fresh legged one who no one has had to match up against recently too.
Not a bad alternate....love Kenzie's game.
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Me too. Hope she scores an important goal tomorrow.
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