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This is true, but some people from one party want to expand money in politics, and some people from the other want to restrict it.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:09 pm
Same as it every was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was... Be they Democrats or Republicans we can all feel confident knowing we have the best politicians that money can buy.
The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
Well the Harris camp was boasting about 500 million in donations in one month. Is that how one party restricts spending?NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:17 pmThis is true, but some people from one party want to expand money in politics, and some people from the other want to restrict it.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:09 pm
Same as it every was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was... Be they Democrats or Republicans we can all feel confident knowing we have the best politicians that money can buy.
Who are you supporting and voting for?
I haven't made up my mind who I'm voting for yet. I'm interested in seeing more of what a 3rd party candidate has to offer the country.What if your vegan??jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:16 pm... kill them, cook them and eat them! Feed the poor!a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:17 pmYou're not wrong...but the longer we keep the working class from opportunity and things like health care and university that every other 1st world nation enjoys? The more severe the correction will be. Our leaders are morons if they don't see what's coming if they keep this up.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:01 pm I've heard this story over and over and it will never end. The problem is my man the rich include all spectrums and also both parties. The problem is all those rich folk yield all the political power and influence. No way in hell they will let go of their money without a fight. No way in hell either party is going to pee off the power brokers that grease the skids of their respective parties. Your bitchin about something that is never likely to change in our lifetime. This same gripe has been going on since as long as I can remember. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Same old story same old song and dance my friend to quote Aerosmith. Any thoughts on how you think that could ever change? I'm not certain the status quo can be changed.
Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
There it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
EVERYONE pays taxes to the gubment, dummy. Well, except some Fortune 500 companies who dodge mucking in.We all pay taxes to the gubmint and they spend that money any damn way they please. Why as of the last 20 years or so they even spend morea fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.
than they take in. Ain't that what you call socialist spending? What makes deficit spending ("spend more than they take in") "socialist spending"?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:40 amWe all pay taxes to the gubmint and they spend that money any damn way they please. Why as of the last 20 years or so they even spend morea fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.than they take in. Ain't that what you call socialist spending?
a fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.
I added all of the deficit spending in as the icing on the cake. A fan often refers to money spent by the government on anything as socialist spending. My perspective is once the government takes it from us they spend it on whatever they want. It's kind of an inside joke I have with a fan. Maybe all of the money our government spends really is socialist spending? I just wish they would learn how to live within their means.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:46 pmWhat makes deficit spending ("spend more than they take in") "socialist spending"?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:40 amWe all pay taxes to the gubmint and they spend that money any damn way they please. Why as of the last 20 years or so they even spend morea fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.
You say last 20 years...2004-2024?
Which 4 years had the highest deficit?
But what really is disturbing is the disconnect some people, including you, seem to feel between representative democracy and "they". You mean the folks "we" vote for?
There's a lot wrong with our system right now, especially due to gerrymandering and the exorbitant influence of money in elections, but the stark alternative being proffered by one party is non-representative autocracy. I'll deal with our imperfections of that any day...you, too, right?
Incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pmI added all of the deficit spending in as the icing on the cake. A fan often refers to money spent by the government on anything as socialist spending.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:46 pmWhat makes deficit spending ("spend more than they take in") "socialist spending"?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:40 amWe all pay taxes to the gubmint and they spend that money any damn way they please. Why as of the last 20 years or so they even spend morea fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.
You say last 20 years...2004-2024?
Which 4 years had the highest deficit?
But what really is disturbing is the disconnect some people, including you, seem to feel between representative democracy and "they". You mean the folks "we" vote for?
There's a lot wrong with our system right now, especially due to gerrymandering and the exorbitant influence of money in elections, but the stark alternative being proffered by one party is non-representative autocracy. I'll deal with our imperfections of that any day...you, too, right?
As I've said before, Biden is spending as much as Reagan did if you look at GDP v. Federal spending.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pm My perspective is once the government takes it from us they spend it on whatever they want. It's kind of an inside joke I have with a fan. Maybe all of the money our government spends really is socialist spending? I just wish they would learn how to live within their means.
https://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_usxreceipts.htma fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:30 pmIncorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pmI added all of the deficit spending in as the icing on the cake. A fan often refers to money spent by the government on anything as socialist spending.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:46 pmWhat makes deficit spending ("spend more than they take in") "socialist spending"?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:40 amWe all pay taxes to the gubmint and they spend that money any damn way they please. Why as of the last 20 years or so they even spend morea fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.
You say last 20 years...2004-2024?
Which 4 years had the highest deficit?
But what really is disturbing is the disconnect some people, including you, seem to feel between representative democracy and "they". You mean the folks "we" vote for?
There's a lot wrong with our system right now, especially due to gerrymandering and the exorbitant influence of money in elections, but the stark alternative being proffered by one party is non-representative autocracy. I'll deal with our imperfections of that any day...you, too, right?
Socialism is when the Government owns the means of production or service: Navy, Tennessee Valley Authority, U of Maryland, US Post office.....all examples of socialism.
Contrast to capitalism/private industry in the same sectors: Blackwater, Xcel Energy, Harvard, FedEx.
Republicans are convinced that the world "socialism" means handouts. Bzzzt. Nope. That's not what that word means....and sorry, you don't get to invent what a word means to suit your worldview.
As I've said before, Biden is spending as much as Reagan did if you look at GDP v. Federal spending.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pm My perspective is once the government takes it from us they spend it on whatever they want. It's kind of an inside joke I have with a fan. Maybe all of the money our government spends really is socialist spending? I just wish they would learn how to live within their means.
The problem is taxes. No one wants to fix that side. THAT is the problem. And Republican voters are too freaking stupid to understand that the working class....especially the top end of the working class....is paying Corporate tax FOR them. All because they can't figure out that FoxNews is run by millionaires and billionaires, all tell them that taxes and the IRS is bad. Until R voters wake the F up? You're right, this will NEVER change.
Which has nothing to do with what policies each side is pushing. We play lacrosse with the rules that are in place, not the rules we think should be implemented.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 5:42 amWell the Harris camp was boasting about 500 million in donations in one month. Is that how one party restricts spending?NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:17 pmThis is true, but some people from one party want to expand money in politics, and some people from the other want to restrict it.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:09 pm
Same as it every was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was... Be they Democrats or Republicans we can all feel confident knowing we have the best politicians that money can buy.
Who are you supporting and voting for?
I contributed to that $500 million and so did many of my friends. First time donors to a political campaign, other than PAC money.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:23 pmWhich has nothing to do with what policies each side is pushing. We play lacrosse with the rules that are in place, not the rules we think should be implemented.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 5:42 amWell the Harris camp was boasting about 500 million in donations in one month. Is that how one party restricts spending?NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:17 pmThis is true, but some people from one party want to expand money in politics, and some people from the other want to restrict it.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:09 pm
Same as it every was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was... Be they Democrats or Republicans we can all feel confident knowing we have the best politicians that money can buy.
Who are you supporting and voting for?
You can still write in RFK Jr.
Been telling Cradle this for years. NYState is even worse than that chart with the NYState idiots giving their State away because they think "the tax money will show up somewhere else" when they don't tax these massive corporations.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:42 pmhttps://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_usxreceipts.htma fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:30 pmIncorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pmI added all of the deficit spending in as the icing on the cake. A fan often refers to money spent by the government on anything as socialist spending.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:46 pmWhat makes deficit spending ("spend more than they take in") "socialist spending"?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:40 amWe all pay taxes to the gubmint and they spend that money any damn way they please. Why as of the last 20 years or so they even spend morea fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.
You say last 20 years...2004-2024?
Which 4 years had the highest deficit?
But what really is disturbing is the disconnect some people, including you, seem to feel between representative democracy and "they". You mean the folks "we" vote for?
There's a lot wrong with our system right now, especially due to gerrymandering and the exorbitant influence of money in elections, but the stark alternative being proffered by one party is non-representative autocracy. I'll deal with our imperfections of that any day...you, too, right?
Socialism is when the Government owns the means of production or service: Navy, Tennessee Valley Authority, U of Maryland, US Post office.....all examples of socialism.
Contrast to capitalism/private industry in the same sectors: Blackwater, Xcel Energy, Harvard, FedEx.
Republicans are convinced that the world "socialism" means handouts. Bzzzt. Nope. That's not what that word means....and sorry, you don't get to invent what a word means to suit your worldview.
As I've said before, Biden is spending as much as Reagan did if you look at GDP v. Federal spending.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pm My perspective is once the government takes it from us they spend it on whatever they want. It's kind of an inside joke I have with a fan. Maybe all of the money our government spends really is socialist spending? I just wish they would learn how to live within their means.
The problem is taxes. No one wants to fix that side. THAT is the problem. And Republican voters are too freaking stupid to understand that the working class....especially the top end of the working class....is paying Corporate tax FOR them. All because they can't figure out that FoxNews is run by millionaires and billionaires, all tell them that taxes and the IRS is bad. Until R voters wake the F up? You're right, this will NEVER change.
Note how the burden has shifted over the past 75 years.
This is what happens when you convince people that corporations are more important than people. It makes it easier to screw the people. No different than when you vilify other people….it makes it easier to screw them….the populist even supports it.a fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:38 pmBeen telling Cradle this for years. NYState is even worse than that chart with the NYState idiots giving their State away because they think "the tax money will show up somewhere else" when they don't tax these massive corporations.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:42 pmhttps://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_usxreceipts.htma fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:30 pmIncorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pmI added all of the deficit spending in as the icing on the cake. A fan often refers to money spent by the government on anything as socialist spending.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:46 pmWhat makes deficit spending ("spend more than they take in") "socialist spending"?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:40 amWe all pay taxes to the gubmint and they spend that money any damn way they please. Why as of the last 20 years or so they even spend morea fan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:26 amThere it is.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 amWhy didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:38 amThe County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:58 pmAnd who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pmWrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:50 amEvery last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:35 am Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation
This is how they think: they think that if THEY enjoy socialism, "well, that's just government".
But if "someone else" enjoys socialism? Oh, well, that's socialism...and the people using it are deadbeats.
Where do you think the money came from to pay for your socialized Federal education? Who do you think paid for the facilities and your professors?
Why you get so angry at this says EVERYTHING. For the first time in your life, someone has pointed out that your ENTIRE economic existence is the product of your fellow taxpayers. Without them? None of your life happens.
And speaking for this taxpayer? I'm THRILLED with what you did with my money-----you've led a tremendous life, and we've gotten that money back, and then some. Which is why those of us who aren't morons see the massive ROI America gets from limited socialism.....a mixed market of government and private.
Yet you've let your RightWingMedia feed twist your mind so badly that you're straight up ANGRY that I'm pointing out that you're a socialist.
I don't think less of you because more of my life has been in the private world, and yours in the government world....
.....YOU DO. Which is just too absurd and ridiculous for words.
You're convinced that I and others give you grief because you have a different point of view.....nope. We give you grief because you say one thing, and then do another. Over and over and over. You can be a conservative all freaking day long without doing that....and you did it just fine at Laxpower.
You say last 20 years...2004-2024?
Which 4 years had the highest deficit?
But what really is disturbing is the disconnect some people, including you, seem to feel between representative democracy and "they". You mean the folks "we" vote for?
There's a lot wrong with our system right now, especially due to gerrymandering and the exorbitant influence of money in elections, but the stark alternative being proffered by one party is non-representative autocracy. I'll deal with our imperfections of that any day...you, too, right?
Socialism is when the Government owns the means of production or service: Navy, Tennessee Valley Authority, U of Maryland, US Post office.....all examples of socialism.
Contrast to capitalism/private industry in the same sectors: Blackwater, Xcel Energy, Harvard, FedEx.
Republicans are convinced that the world "socialism" means handouts. Bzzzt. Nope. That's not what that word means....and sorry, you don't get to invent what a word means to suit your worldview.
As I've said before, Biden is spending as much as Reagan did if you look at GDP v. Federal spending.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:15 pm My perspective is once the government takes it from us they spend it on whatever they want. It's kind of an inside joke I have with a fan. Maybe all of the money our government spends really is socialist spending? I just wish they would learn how to live within their means.
The problem is taxes. No one wants to fix that side. THAT is the problem. And Republican voters are too freaking stupid to understand that the working class....especially the top end of the working class....is paying Corporate tax FOR them. All because they can't figure out that FoxNews is run by millionaires and billionaires, all tell them that taxes and the IRS is bad. Until R voters wake the F up? You're right, this will NEVER change.
Note how the burden has shifted over the past 75 years.
Yeah....no. It doesn't show up "somewhere else". If it did? Why the F would you tax mom and pop businesses even one penny? Ask this exact question of someone who champions this idiocy, and watch them stare at you blankly when they figure it out.