Ignatiev stated that attempts to give race a biological foundation have only led to absurdities as in the common example that a white woman could give birth to a black child, but a black woman could never give birth to a white child.[4] Ignatiev asserted that the only logical explanation for this notion is that people are members of different racial categories because society assigns people to these categories.
the point is, it's a manmade construct. (and he's a harvard guy so what could go wrong there. )
"it’s an abstract noun, it’s an abstraction, it’s an attribute of some people, it’s not the role they play. And the white race is an actual objective thing. It’s not anthropologic, it’s a historically developed identity of European Americans and Anglo-Americans and so it has to be dealt with. It functions... in this history of ours and it has to be recognized as such. . . .to slough it off under the heading of ‘whiteness,’ to me seems to get away from the basic white race identity trauma."
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:16 pm
There needs to be more accountability.
Those who call in false charges need to be prosecuted, like this woman.
And I'd be happy to see financial damages sought against bad cops (and their unions) who press charges that end up being thrown out in court.
… yup, but how often is and has the word of a white person just been accepted? What made this woman think she could get away with this?
I don’t know how many times it has happened. Just like I don't know how many times people have committed other crimes. What makes someone think they can commit any crime? Stupidity? Ego? Rage? Hate? Each situation is different. That’s a question for the criminal.
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I believe most US pro sports teams are now trademarked. It wasn't always so (Dodgers, Yankees, Braves, Browns).
Cardinals survive in both NFL/MLB as a legacy from when the Big Red moved from Chicago to StL in 1960.
I believe Snyder would need to buy the use of "Warriors" from the NBA team, if they were willing to share the name.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Ignatiev stated that attempts to give race a biological foundation have only led to absurdities as in the common example that a white woman could give birth to a black child, but a black woman could never give birth to a white child.[4] Ignatiev asserted that the only logical explanation for this notion is that people are members of different racial categories because society assigns people to these categories.
the point is, it's a manmade construct. (and he's a harvard guy so what could go wrong there. )
"it’s an abstract noun, it’s an abstraction, it’s an attribute of some people, it’s not the role they play. And the white race is an actual objective thing. It’s not anthropologic, it’s a historically developed identity of European Americans and Anglo-Americans and so it has to be dealt with. It functions... in this history of ours and it has to be recognized as such. . . .to slough it off under the heading of ‘whiteness,’ to me seems to get away from the basic white race identity trauma."
Of course it’s a man made construct. That’s the whole point. It’s nothing new:
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:35 pm
by kramerica.inc
Pair with MLB and NHL- Get everyone in DC on the same color scheme. Make all the uniforms exactly the same colors- Red White and Blue.
It would ensure your stadium is filled with home colors.
I believe most US pro sports teams are now trademarked. It wasn't always so (Dodgers, Yankees, Braves, Browns).
Cardinals survive in both NFL/MLB as a legacy from when the Big Red moved from Chicago to StL in 1960.
I believe Snyder would need to buy the use of "Warriors" from the NBA team, if they were willing to share the name.
Don’t forget the Giants.
This isn’t my area of expertise so I’m not sure about this, but I think teams in different sports could have the same nicknames. A key issue in trademark infringement is consumer confusion. Consumers wouldn’t be confused between the New York football Giants and the San Francisco baseball Giants. I don’t think it’s an issue of grandfathering.
Similarly, consumers wouldn’t be confused between the Golden State Warriors basketball team and the Washington Warriors football team.
Lots of college teams have the same nicknames without any trademark issues I am aware of.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:08 am
by old salt
I like Warriors if there were no trademark issues. Keep the same colors & uniforms with minimal changes.
Remove any inference or link to Native Americans. Just make it generic warriors.
Retain same uniforms & helmets, with the same center stripes.
Replace the Indian head on the side with a matching yellow/gold block "W" bordered in white.
Just generic burgundy & gold that can't be misconstrued.
...of course Warriors is too militaristic.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
by kramerica.inc
W&L Faculty voted to express support to remove Lee from school name.
Faculty later voted to remove Washington, but the measure failed.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:59 am
by Typical Lax Dad
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
W&L Faculty voted to express support to remove Lee from school name.
Faculty later voted to remove Washington, but the measure failed.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:01 am
by 6ftstick
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
W&L Faculty voted to express support to remove Lee from school name.
Faculty later voted to remove Washington, but the measure failed.
The Creator of HAMILTON is apologizing for his play after withering social media blasts. Has anyone ever walked out at the end of a performance of Hamilton and thought wow that's pretty conservative.
The woke virtue-signaling cancel-crowd will not be appeased.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."—Churchill
Defund the police! Kill babies! Sorry I misspoke, Kill the products of conception!
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
W&L Faculty voted to express support to remove Lee from school name.
Faculty later voted to remove Washington, but the measure failed.
The Creator of HAMILTON is apologizing for his play after withering social media blasts. Has anyone ever walked out at the end of a performance of Hamilton and thought wow that's pretty conservative.
The woke virtue-signaling cancel-crowd will not be appeased.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."—Churchill
Defund the police! Kill babies! Sorry I misspoke, Kill the products of conception!
They always eat their own. And their own are too dumb to see it coming.
John T Edge was as liberal as they come, and it wasn't enough to save his job when the Democratic mob came for him.
The NYC School council video is a perfect illustration of what happens when you allow leftists to assume power:
Look and listen to how unhinged these nutcases are
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:00 am
by jhu72
… well looks like Amy Cooper had company on the 4th making false report to the police. And here I was thinking it was just a one off. White people thinking they can bully minorities with impunity. There is no racism or white supremacy in the US - how can this be?
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:07 am
by Typical Lax Dad
jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:00 am
… well looks like Amy Cooper had company on the 4th making false report to the police. And here I was thinking it was just a one off. White people thinking they can bully minorities with impunity. There is no racism or white supremacy in the US - how can this be?
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
W&L Faculty voted to express support to remove Lee from school name.
Faculty later voted to remove Washington, but the measure failed.
The Creator of HAMILTON is apologizing for his play after withering social media blasts. Has anyone ever walked out at the end of a performance of Hamilton and thought wow that's pretty conservative.
The woke virtue-signaling cancel-crowd will not be appeased.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."—Churchill
Defund the police! Kill babies! Sorry I misspoke, Kill the products of conception!
They always eat their own. And their own are too dumb to see it coming.
John T Edge was as liberal as they come, and it wasn't enough to save his job when the Democratic mob came for him.
The NYC School council video is a perfect illustration of what happens when you allow leftists to assume power:
Look and listen to how unhinged these nutcases are
Sadly, the anger she bores, comes from the inner turmoil of innately knowing she is a product of her surroundings and the people to which she associates...but so craves the freedom and free will to escape her own mental circus. She just needs to hang out at a barbecue, in the country, drink some Bud Light, throw some horseshoes or corn bags, hop in a 4x4, go fishing, and catch fireflies. She is wound up way too tight.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
W&L Faculty voted to express support to remove Lee from school name.
Faculty later voted to remove Washington, but the measure failed.
The Creator of HAMILTON is apologizing for his play after withering social media blasts. Has anyone ever walked out at the end of a performance of Hamilton and thought wow that's pretty conservative.
The woke virtue-signaling cancel-crowd will not be appeased.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."—Churchill
Defund the police! Kill babies! Sorry I misspoke, Kill the products of conception!
They always eat their own. And their own are too dumb to see it coming.
John T Edge was as liberal as they come, and it wasn't enough to save his job when the Democratic mob came for him.
The NYC School council video is a perfect illustration of what happens when you allow leftists to assume power:
Look and listen to how unhinged these nutcases are
Sadly, the anger she bores, comes from the inner turmoil of innately knowing she is a product of her surroundings and the people to which she associates...but so craves the freedom and free will to escape her own mental circus. She just needs to hang out at a barbecue, in the country, drink some Bud Light, throw some horseshoes or corn bags, hop in a 4x4, go fishing, and catch fireflies. She is wound up way too tight.
Are you being scornful or ridiculing this person?
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
W&L Faculty voted to express support to remove Lee from school name.
Faculty later voted to remove Washington, but the measure failed.
The Creator of HAMILTON is apologizing for his play after withering social media blasts. Has anyone ever walked out at the end of a performance of Hamilton and thought wow that's pretty conservative.
The woke virtue-signaling cancel-crowd will not be appeased.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."—Churchill
Defund the police! Kill babies! Sorry I misspoke, Kill the products of conception!
They always eat their own. And their own are too dumb to see it coming.
John T Edge was as liberal as they come, and it wasn't enough to save his job when the Democratic mob came for him.
The NYC School council video is a perfect illustration of what happens when you allow leftists to assume power:
Look and listen to how unhinged these nutcases are
Sadly, the anger she bores, comes from the inner turmoil of innately knowing she is a product of her surroundings and the people to which she associates...but so craves the freedom and free will to escape her own mental circus. She just needs to hang out at a barbecue, in the country, drink some Bud Light, throw some horseshoes or corn bags, hop in a 4x4, go fishing, and catch fireflies. She is wound up way too tight.
Are you being scornful or ridiculing this person?
He should do both. So should anyone. And yet she has a relatively impactful position in NYC over schoolchildren who apparently she could not care less about as she never once raises any issue related to kids in her lunacy rant.
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A shame. Douglas was a great man by all accounts I've read.
Given the violent actions of the BLM protestors and of white supremicists I'm almost grateful it's statues being targeted and not real people.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:58 am
by 6ftstick
Patrick Mahomes paid 1/2 billion to play football.
What a racist white privileged society we live in here in America.
Defund the Police
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:16 am
by cradleandshoot
6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:58 am
Patrick Mahomes paid 1/2 billion to play football.
What a racist white privileged society we live in here in America.
Defund the Police
The really sad part is he might not have any KC fans in Arrowhead Stadium to play in front of. BTW is the name Arrowhead Stadium not also politically incorrect? Hell isn't the nickname "Chiefs" also slanderous to native Americans? It has to be. My boys played lax at Penfield HS. They use to be the Chiefs, now they are the Patriots. The nickname Chiefs was too offensive to many parents of Penfield kids. Hell, today the nickname Patriots is probably also offensive to somebody in this country. That reminds me... The New England Patriots??? Sorry there Mr Kraft, that nickname has got to go. All these offensive nicknames are a blemish to our country. I feel so sad, what will we tell our grandkids about this shameful legacy we are leaving them? We have to use FLP logic here ( an oxymoron I know) if one person can't be a patriot... then dammit nobody should be a patriot.
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BTW is the name Arrowhead Stadium not also politically incorrect? Hell isn't the nickname "Chiefs" also slanderous to native Americans? It has to be. My boys played lax at Penfield HS. They use to be the Chiefs, now they are the Patriots. The nickname Chiefs was too offensive to many parents of Penfield kids. Hell, today the nickname Patriots is probably also offensive to somebody in this country. That reminds me... The New England Patriots??? Sorry there Mr Kraft, that nickname has got to go. All these offensive nicknames are a blemish to our country. I feel so sad, what will we tell our grandkids about this shameful legacy we are leaving them? 
We have to use FLP logic here ( an oxymoron I know) if one person can't be a patriot... then dammit nobody should be a patriot. 