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Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:34 am
by holmes435
RedFromMI wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:58 am Any Republican who voted for the huge tax cut?

Don't forget the farm bill (and virtually every one before it).

Or Trump handing out money to businesses affected by his tariffs.

And that's just the past few months.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:38 am
by runrussellrun
holmes435 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:34 am
RedFromMI wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:58 am Any Republican who voted for the huge tax cut?

Don't forget the farm bill (and virtually every one before it).

Or Trump handing out money to businesses affected by his tariffs.

And that's just the past few months.
Guess planet TAATS is a myth, but it's just sad that well thinking folks don't care to see reality. Just sad, really

Here are the votes on the farmbill.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/h434

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/s259

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:00 pm
by a fan
holmes435 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:34 am
RedFromMI wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:58 am Any Republican who voted for the huge tax cut?

Don't forget the farm bill (and virtually every one before it).

Or Trump handing out money to businesses affected by his tariffs.

And that's just the past few months.
And only $700 Billion in the three spending bills they passed were for the military. That leaves $2 Trillion for handouts and socialism.

"But that doesn't count as socialism, because we sez so", bark the Republicans. :roll:

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm
by OCanada
The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
by jhu72
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
That's an easy question to answer. Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times would have no problem seeing the two year old pretender for what he is. With the possible exception of the North Carolina and South Carolina delegations, no one would have given the clown the time of day.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
by runrussellrun
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
That's an easy question to answer. Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times would have no problem seeing the two year old pretender for what he is. With the possible exception of the North Carolina and South Carolina delegations, no one would have given the clown the time of day.
Yup......a clown. Agree. (tRump) What's the approval rating of Congress right now? (calling AFAN) Two years ago? The pretends think they are elite clowns

https://www.theclownschool.com/, but a clown is a clown. 70% DISapproval rating? what, where? America hates you all, but the pretends think somehow.........they are smart. Elite college smart.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/s259

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm
by 6ftstick
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times
Your a disgrace.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:14 pm
by cradleandshoot
6ftstick wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times
Your a disgrace.
Leave it to our pint size doctor to play the most base and cowardly race card. Some things are just sooooo predictable. I am sooooooo glad our founding fathers did not include a bunch of PhD weeds amongst them... :D

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm
by OCanada
Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:25 pm
by jhu72
6ftstick wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times
Your a disgrace.
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:14 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times


Your a disgrace.
Leave it to our pint size doctor to play the most base and cowardly race card. Some things are just sooooo predictable. I am sooooooo glad our founding fathers did not include a bunch of PhD weeds amongst them... :D
Thank you both. Hi praise indeed coming from you guys. :lol:

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pm
by cradleandshoot
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
Our founding fathers had to make difficult choices regarding the issue of slavery. They had to keep the interests of 13 individual colonies in mind as they tried to hammer out a declaration of independence. There had to be appeasement to the slave states or there never would have been a declaration of independence. Was it the wrong thing to do... hell yes it was. The biggest mistake the founding fathers ignored was not dealing with the issue after the war was won. It took another 70 plus years and a bloodbath of a civil war to finally decide the issue. There are other nations out there that have been fighting the same wars for thousands of years with no end in sight. The USA despite the rich white slave owners that helped carve out this nation gave us a blueprint to fix things that they got wrong. It has not always been easy and it has not always been fair but as a nation we are still trying to get it right. Those rich white slave owners gave us the US Constitution. That is where we fix the mistakes along the journey.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:41 pm
by cradleandshoot
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:25 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times
Your a disgrace.
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:14 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm The Founding Father’s did good. They also recognized they weren’t perfect and allowed for changes. I read 6’ quotes and then thought to myself does Trump embody those virtues?
Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times


Your a disgrace.
Leave it to our pint size doctor to play the most base and cowardly race card. Some things are just sooooo predictable. I am sooooooo glad our founding fathers did not include a bunch of PhD weeds amongst them... :D
Thank you both. Hi praise indeed coming from you guys. :lol:
In your case Doc... that would be very low praise... You are proof positive to that lecture my mom gave me all those years ago. I learned just how stupid I could be. That is a life lesson that has not endeared itself to your over inflated ego. Because some folks are just to intelligent to see it. :P Where do you roll 72,LEDs or compact florescent? :lol: Give us your dissertation please. ;)

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:00 pm
by jhu72
Thank you again. High praise indeed.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:32 pm
by seacoaster
Mayor Pete's star continues to rise:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... f4c670b1e5

"He’s a Rhodes scholar, Navy veteran, the young mayor of a midsize city (he was elected to lead South Bend, Ind., at age 29; he’s now 37), and apparently moonlights as an Arabic translator for hospital patients in tragic need. The hopeful gay millennial candidate has come out of nowhere and caught the nation’s eye....

Buttigieg (it’s “Boot-edge-edge,” if you’re still struggling) has distinguished himself from the current Democratic field, and from most politicians generally, by seeming to have a well-thought-out and comprehensive position on almost any topic. He’s developed an opinion on everything from white nationalism (not just “economic anxiety,” but a larger context of disorientation and lost community and identity) to Chick-fil-A (does not approve of its politics, kind of approves of its chicken). Potential voters approve: Last weekend’s Emerson Poll showed him shooting up to third place in the race in Iowa, behind Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, but ahead of Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren."

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:59 am
by cradleandshoot
https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/an-awkwa ... biden.html Yucko… will they start calling him sloppy Joe?

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:11 am
by MDlaxfan76
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
Our founding fathers had to make difficult choices regarding the issue of slavery. They had to keep the interests of 13 individual colonies in mind as they tried to hammer out a declaration of independence. There had to be appeasement to the slave states or there never would have been a declaration of independence. Was it the wrong thing to do... hell yes it was. The biggest mistake the founding fathers ignored was not dealing with the issue after the war was won. It took another 70 plus years and a bloodbath of a civil war to finally decide the issue. There are other nations out there that have been fighting the same wars for thousands of years with no end in sight. The USA despite the rich white slave owners that helped carve out this nation gave us a blueprint to fix things that they got wrong. It has not always been easy and it has not always been fair but as a nation we are still trying to get it right. Those rich white slave owners gave us the US Constitution. That is where we fix the mistakes along the journey.
Interesting point about the compromise made:
https://www.blackpast.org/african-ameri ... r-slavery/

But getting pissy with 72 was misplaced.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:05 pm
by old salt
Creepy Uncle Joe has no shot in the #MeToo (D) Primary.
The "not as bad as Trump" defense doesn't cut it.
The comparison alone is disqualifying.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:32 pm
by 6ftstick
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:11 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
But getting pissy with 72 was misplaced.
So you ascribe to 72's belief—"Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times"—referring to men like Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Adams etc.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:50 am
by MDlaxfan76
6ftstick wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:32 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:11 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
But getting pissy with 72 was misplaced.
So you ascribe to 72's belief—"Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times"—referring to men like Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Adams etc.
Were they not the best and brightest white men of their times? At least such in America?

I read "so called" and " white men of their times" as referring to the bias that is pretty much irrefutable, when there are no women or people of color at the table.

But, hey, what they did, despite such bias, was pretty darn extraordinary.
True.

Re: 2020 Elections - Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:30 am
by dislaxxic
Dis hereby pledges that if Trump wins the next presidential election, he will leave all politics boards FOREVER!

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