Don't forget the farm bill (and virtually every one before it).
Or Trump handing out money to businesses affected by his tariffs.
And that's just the past few months.
Guess planet TAATS is a myth, but it's just sad that well thinking folks don't care to see reality. Just sad, really
And only $700 Billion in the three spending bills they passed were for the military. That leaves $2 Trillion for handouts and socialism.
That's an easy question to answer. Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times would have no problem seeing the two year old pretender for what he is. With the possible exception of the North Carolina and South Carolina delegations, no one would have given the clown the time of day.
Yup......a clown. Agree. (tRump) What's the approval rating of Congress right now? (calling AFAN) Two years ago? The pretends think they are elite clownsjhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 pmThat's an easy question to answer. Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times would have no problem seeing the two year old pretender for what he is. With the possible exception of the North Carolina and South Carolina delegations, no one would have given the clown the time of day.
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pmYour a disgrace.
6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pmLeave it to our pint size doctor to play the most base and cowardly race card. Some things are just sooooo predictable. I am sooooooo glad our founding fathers did not include a bunch of PhD weeds amongst them...runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pmYour a disgrace.
Thank you both. Hi praise indeed coming from you guys.6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pmrunrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pmYour a disgrace.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:14 pm6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pmLeave it to our pint size doctor to play the most base and cowardly race card. Some things are just sooooo predictable. I am sooooooo glad our founding fathers did not include a bunch of PhD weeds amongst them...runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
Your a disgrace.
Our founding fathers had to make difficult choices regarding the issue of slavery. They had to keep the interests of 13 individual colonies in mind as they tried to hammer out a declaration of independence. There had to be appeasement to the slave states or there never would have been a declaration of independence. Was it the wrong thing to do... hell yes it was. The biggest mistake the founding fathers ignored was not dealing with the issue after the war was won. It took another 70 plus years and a bloodbath of a civil war to finally decide the issue. There are other nations out there that have been fighting the same wars for thousands of years with no end in sight. The USA despite the rich white slave owners that helped carve out this nation gave us a blueprint to fix things that they got wrong. It has not always been easy and it has not always been fair but as a nation we are still trying to get it right. Those rich white slave owners gave us the US Constitution. That is where we fix the mistakes along the journey.OCanada wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
In your case Doc... that would be very low praise... You are proof positive to that lecture my mom gave me all those years ago. I learned just how stupid I could be. That is a life lesson that has not endeared itself to your over inflated ego. Because some folks are just to intelligent to see it. Where do you roll 72,LEDs or compact florescent? Give us your dissertation please.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:25 pmThank you both. Hi praise indeed coming from you guys.6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pmrunrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pmYour a disgrace.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:14 pm6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pmLeave it to our pint size doctor to play the most base and cowardly race card. Some things are just sooooo predictable. I am sooooooo glad our founding fathers did not include a bunch of PhD weeds amongst them...runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:56 pm
Your a disgrace.
Interesting point about the compromise made:cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pmOur founding fathers had to make difficult choices regarding the issue of slavery. They had to keep the interests of 13 individual colonies in mind as they tried to hammer out a declaration of independence. There had to be appeasement to the slave states or there never would have been a declaration of independence. Was it the wrong thing to do... hell yes it was. The biggest mistake the founding fathers ignored was not dealing with the issue after the war was won. It took another 70 plus years and a bloodbath of a civil war to finally decide the issue. There are other nations out there that have been fighting the same wars for thousands of years with no end in sight. The USA despite the rich white slave owners that helped carve out this nation gave us a blueprint to fix things that they got wrong. It has not always been easy and it has not always been fair but as a nation we are still trying to get it right. Those rich white slave owners gave us the US Constitution. That is where we fix the mistakes along the journey.OCanada wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:11 amSo you ascribe to 72's belief—"Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times"—referring to men like Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Adams etc.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pmBut getting pissy with 72 was misplaced.OCanada wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
6ftstick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:32 pmWere they not the best and brightest white men of their times? At least such in America?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:11 amSo you ascribe to 72's belief—"Those so called "best and brightest" white men of their times"—referring to men like Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Adams etc.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pmBut getting pissy with 72 was misplaced.OCanada wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm Well they were forvthe most part the best and brightest of their time. They knew they didn’t have all the answers. There were compromises. They recognized they needed a strong central government if the country were to succeed. Much of our history had involved trying to bring the liberal principles of the enlightenment to realization. It’s ongoing. Civil War, Civil Rights, Universal Suffrahe etc
I read "so called" and " white men of their times" as referring to the bias that is pretty much irrefutable, when there are no women or people of color at the table.
But, hey, what they did, despite such bias, was pretty darn extraordinary.
True.