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AreaLax wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:16 am Is Meg Carney returning? Her IG post is implying that she might not be coming back next season
She gone!
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Bart
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I have zero clue about field hockey but did notice Sam Swart had a goal and assist in SU's 5 - 0 opener. Just thought it was an interesting aside.
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The 67 spectators saw a 0-0 game at the half.
Swart broke the ice in the 3rd.
https://cuse.com/sports/field-hockey/st ... core/15451
I wouldn't be surprised if Swart is better at this game than lacrosse.
Stickhandling was never a strong point with her, this kind of stick
actually seems more suited for her, and we all know her speed and
stamina will serve her well in this game (which I know nothing about either).
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Field hockey (which I played in college) is a speed game. Swartz will be one of the fastest and most athletic kids on the field. FYI, she scored the 5th goal and assisted on #4 off the bench. Me thinks she will be in the starting line up next time out.
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Oh, thanks. So I was reading it backwards/upside down/the wrong way.
Scores late (it's a 60 minute game?) when maybe endurance comes into play?
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DMac wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:57 pm Oh, thanks. So I was reading it backwards/upside down/the wrong way.
Scores late (it's a 60 minute game?) when maybe endurance comes into play?
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Field hockey subs on the fly continuously. Endurance is a huge part of game strategy. Coaches like to go at least 3-4 deep in the box, if their depth allows. I am sure swart’s engine is a welcome addition.

This is what I assume is swart’s first time in a game since high school. Seems like she settled in fine.
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Having a hard time reading this cuse team..no idea what to expect. Defensively they were terrible last year. They'll get ward back but then again they don't have a goalie. Feels like another season where they'll have to outscore their opponent.
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Doesn't change your message but you get more than Ward back. Carney was playing at what, 60%? E. Tyrell (hopefully fully recovered but maybe not) too. Adds more to the outscoring thought but doesn't help with the D (terrible is a little harsh) question. Maddy Baxter might come back as a bigger scoring threat too, she went to the cage with more confidence in the world games, lot of potential there, not a bad D player either. Treanor's exhibition in the World Games had to have an effect on these girls, I'm thinkin' they're fired up and ready to go. Only time will tell.
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DMac wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:01 am Doesn't change your message but you get more than Ward back. Carney was playing at what, 60%? E. Tyrell (hopefully fully recovered but maybe not) too. Adds more to the outscoring thought but doesn't help with the D (terrible is a little harsh) question. Maddy Baxter might come back as a bigger scoring threat too, she went to the cage with more confidence in the world games, lot of potential there, not a bad D player either. Treanor's exhibition in the World Games had to have an effect on these girls, I'm thinkin' they're fired up and ready to go. Only time will tell.
You also have Cockrell coming back. Hopefully all the injured players will be ready to go. If they are, they should be in a good place offensively. Defense/goalie are the biggest questions in my mind.
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Kleizaster wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:23 am Having a hard time reading this cuse team..no idea what to expect. Defensively they were terrible last year. They'll get ward back but then again they don't have a goalie. Feels like another season where they'll have to outscore their opponent.
They were 15-6 last year with Carney operating at best at 75%, Ward and Cockerille gone for the season, Emma Tyrrell gone for most of the season -- and all of them back presumably at 100% this year. Markey will be a year older and better. Baxter will contribute.

Cooper's departure and the Goalie question mark are real. But Syracuse will still be a top five or six team, I think.
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Meaghan Tyrrell, Megan Carney, Emma Ward, Emma Tyrrell, Sierra Cockerille, Natalie Smith, Jenny Markey, Maddy Baxter, Olivia Adamson.... with all of the starting attackers and midfielders they have coming back next season, they are returning more offensive firepower than just about any other top 10 team. Carney, Ward, and Cockerille should most definitely be at 100% by the time the 2023 season rolls around. Emma Tyrrell is obviously the biggest question mark because her injury was in the latter part of the season. Should she return to form (really hope she does), Syracuse will be excellent at the draw with Kate Mashewske (178 DC) and Tyrrell (64 DC in 12 games) controlling the circle.

The defense and goalie play were definitely subpar at times throughout the last season as we all know. But I think they showed (overall) vast improvements as the season went on. In the last 5 or 6 games of the season, I thought the stagnant offense was a bigger culprit for their struggles rather than the defense. Katie Goodale showed a lot of promise last season and everyone else (besides Sarah Cooper) on the defensive side of the ball also returns. So, in conclusion, they have a lot of seasoned players returning with a ton of experience under their belts. Now, that doesn't always mean the team will be exponentially better than they were in the year prior. But normally, players on a team DO get better with the more experience they garner (obviously).
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Sorry if this has been mentioned already..


Cuse picks up UIndy transfer Abigail Lagos - D2 Honda Athlete of the Year nominee, IWLCA Player of the Year, & Attacker of the Year
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Can she play D too? ;)
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wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:37 am Sorry if this has been mentioned already..


Cuse picks up UIndy transfer Abigail Lagos - D2 Honda Athlete of the Year nominee, IWLCA Player of the Year, & Attacker of the Year
This woman graduated high school in 2016 :shock: :shock: I don’t know her story, but turned my head when I read that 2023 will be her 7th year in college. She turns 25 in November according to her U Indy bio
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Really not all that uncommon anymore. How old is Sam Swart?
Tucker Dordevic will be playing for Georgetown this year (much
to my delight), he's got to be close to the same age. I do agree,
it's a little nuts.
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washedup wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:58 am
wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:37 am Sorry if this has been mentioned already..


Cuse picks up UIndy transfer Abigail Lagos - D2 Honda Athlete of the Year nominee, IWLCA Player of the Year, & Attacker of the Year
This woman graduated high school in 2016 :shock: :shock: I don’t know her story, but turned my head when I read that 2023 will be her 7th year in college. She turns 25 in November according to her U Indy bio
According to her bio, she redshirted freshman year in 2017, was granted a medical redshirt in 2019, then there was the COVID year in 2020.

If Taylor Gait had played during the pandemic she likely would have been in a similar situation, but since she did not her career, hampered with knee injuries, was only 6 years long.

Same goes for Loyola's Katrina Geiger who played her freshman season in 2013, medically redshirted 2014, played 2015, medically redshirted 2016 after playing 1 game, and played 2017 & 2018.

Somewhat similarly, UNC Men's Lacrosse had a 21 year old freshman back in 2016. He was a part of the 2014 recruiting class but, as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, elected to go on a mission prior to attending college.

And those examples are pre-COVID.

It's definitely unusual, but you're right, we can't know someone's whole story. At the end of the day, everyone gets their 4 full years of in-season competition & no one can sue the NCAA because they didn't.
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wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:30 pm
washedup wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:58 am
wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:37 am Sorry if this has been mentioned already..


Cuse picks up UIndy transfer Abigail Lagos - D2 Honda Athlete of the Year nominee, IWLCA Player of the Year, & Attacker of the Year
This woman graduated high school in 2016 :shock: :shock: I don’t know her story, but turned my head when I read that 2023 will be her 7th year in college. She turns 25 in November according to her U Indy bio
According to her bio, she redshirted freshman year in 2017, was granted a medical redshirt in 2019, then there was the COVID year in 2020.

If Taylor Gait had played during the pandemic she likely would have been in a similar situation, but since she did not her career, hampered with knee injuries, was only 6 years long.

Same goes for Loyola's Katrina Geiger who played her freshman season in 2013, medically redshirted 2014, played 2015, medically redshirted 2016 after playing 1 game, and played 2017 & 2018.

Somewhat similarly, UNC Men's Lacrosse had a 21 year old freshman back in 2016. He was a part of the 2014 recruiting class but, as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, elected to go on a mission prior to attending college.

And those examples are pre-COVID.

It's definitely unusual, but you're right, we can't know someone's whole story. At the end of the day, everyone gets their 4 full years of in-season competition & no one can sue the NCAA because they didn't.
She is ridiculously talented and I would not be surprised if she takes a current attackers place . Who imo was a bad take
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Cagekeeper wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:50 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:30 pm
washedup wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:58 am
wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:37 am Sorry if this has been mentioned already..


Cuse picks up UIndy transfer Abigail Lagos - D2 Honda Athlete of the Year nominee, IWLCA Player of the Year, & Attacker of the Year
This woman graduated high school in 2016 :shock: :shock: I don’t know her story, but turned my head when I read that 2023 will be her 7th year in college. She turns 25 in November according to her U Indy bio
According to her bio, she redshirted freshman year in 2017, was granted a medical redshirt in 2019, then there was the COVID year in 2020.

If Taylor Gait had played during the pandemic she likely would have been in a similar situation, but since she did not her career, hampered with knee injuries, was only 6 years long.

Same goes for Loyola's Katrina Geiger who played her freshman season in 2013, medically redshirted 2014, played 2015, medically redshirted 2016 after playing 1 game, and played 2017 & 2018.

Somewhat similarly, UNC Men's Lacrosse had a 21 year old freshman back in 2016. He was a part of the 2014 recruiting class but, as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, elected to go on a mission prior to attending college.

And those examples are pre-COVID.

It's definitely unusual, but you're right, we can't know someone's whole story. At the end of the day, everyone gets their 4 full years of in-season competition & no one can sue the NCAA because they didn't.
She is ridiculously talented and I would not be surprised if she takes a current attackers place . Who imo was a bad take
Never seen the u Indy transfer play, but still SMH about the Cuse transfer double dip last season.
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watcherinthewoods wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:50 pm
Cagekeeper wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:50 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:30 pm
washedup wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:58 am
wlaxphan20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:37 am Sorry if this has been mentioned already..


Cuse picks up UIndy transfer Abigail Lagos - D2 Honda Athlete of the Year nominee, IWLCA Player of the Year, & Attacker of the Year
This woman graduated high school in 2016 :shock: :shock: I don’t know her story, but turned my head when I read that 2023 will be her 7th year in college. She turns 25 in November according to her U Indy bio
According to her bio, she redshirted freshman year in 2017, was granted a medical redshirt in 2019, then there was the COVID year in 2020.

If Taylor Gait had played during the pandemic she likely would have been in a similar situation, but since she did not her career, hampered with knee injuries, was only 6 years long.

Same goes for Loyola's Katrina Geiger who played her freshman season in 2013, medically redshirted 2014, played 2015, medically redshirted 2016 after playing 1 game, and played 2017 & 2018.

Somewhat similarly, UNC Men's Lacrosse had a 21 year old freshman back in 2016. He was a part of the 2014 recruiting class but, as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, elected to go on a mission prior to attending college.

And those examples are pre-COVID.

It's definitely unusual, but you're right, we can't know someone's whole story. At the end of the day, everyone gets their 4 full years of in-season competition & no one can sue the NCAA because they didn't.
She is ridiculously talented and I would not be surprised if she takes a current attackers place . Who imo was a bad take
Never seen the u Indy transfer play, but still SMH about the Cuse transfer double dip last season.
Never seen her play and I’m sure she’s good. However, playing teams like Frostburge, Findlay and Rockhurst is definitely different then playing teams like BC, UNC and NW. I guess time will tell.
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