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Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:59 pm
by Farfromgeneva
When you have Richard Checo next spring I think you’ll be happy.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:38 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:59 pm When you have Richard Checo next spring I think you’ll be happy.
The Hoos will definitely appreciate Chase Yager...he'll fit right in.
SSDM and one man clear.
VA Beach born and bred...the locks will fit in too...
https://www.si.com/college/virginia/lac ... hase-yager

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
by The Orfling
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:24 am
by AreaLax
Late pickup for ‘23 UVA. Henry Metz FO

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:36 am
by coda
The Orfling wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.
It really depends. I am not sure he can do much to improve his reputation at Virginia. Perhaps, it is a good move if Lehigh is going to be a rebuild. How do you improve the offense at UVa? It is a role that has mostly downside. You finish outside the top 5 in scoring and it is bad result. Is he going to recruit better? Unlikely. Improve the offense? unlikely.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:54 am
by youthathletics
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:36 am
The Orfling wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.
It really depends. I am not sure he can do much to improve his reputation at Virginia. Perhaps, it is a good move if Lehigh is going to be a rebuild. How do you improve the offense at UVa? It is a role that has mostly downside. You finish outside the top 5 in scoring and it is bad result. Is he going to recruit better? Unlikely. Improve the offense? unlikely.
Lars needs a fall guy?

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:57 am
by coda
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:54 am
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:36 am
The Orfling wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.
It really depends. I am not sure he can do much to improve his reputation at Virginia. Perhaps, it is a good move if Lehigh is going to be a rebuild. How do you improve the offense at UVa? It is a role that has mostly downside. You finish outside the top 5 in scoring and it is bad result. Is he going to recruit better? Unlikely. Improve the offense? unlikely.
Lars needs a fall guy?
Not following. My point is what can Cassese do at Virginia that would be deemed an improvement over his predecessor? There are a lot of paths that he fails to put up the same achievements and very few that he out-shines.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:59 pm
by FMUBart
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:57 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:54 am
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:36 am
The Orfling wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.
It really depends. I am not sure he can do much to improve his reputation at Virginia. Perhaps, it is a good move if Lehigh is going to be a rebuild. How do you improve the offense at UVa? It is a role that has mostly downside. You finish outside the top 5 in scoring and it is bad result. Is he going to recruit better? Unlikely. Improve the offense? unlikely.
Lars needs a fall guy?
Not following. My point is what can Cassese do at Virginia that would be deemed an improvement over his predecessor? There are a lot of paths that he fails to put up the same achievements and very few that he out-shines.
The strategy of hiring former HC's has worked pretty well for Nick Saban...there's more than one way to coach; this move should benefit Lars & KC as well. Maybe KC would've had Lars call a timeout on that last offensive possession?!

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:11 pm
by stupefied
Strange changes abound. Thought a oc ie Metzbower made sense

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:26 pm
by AreaLax
stupefied wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:11 pm Strange changes abound. Thought a oc ie Metzbower made sense
Sounds like he is heading west to Denver. Just a rumor

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:50 pm
by wgdsr
FMUBart wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:59 pm
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:57 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:54 am
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:36 am
The Orfling wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.
It really depends. I am not sure he can do much to improve his reputation at Virginia. Perhaps, it is a good move if Lehigh is going to be a rebuild. How do you improve the offense at UVa? It is a role that has mostly downside. You finish outside the top 5 in scoring and it is bad result. Is he going to recruit better? Unlikely. Improve the offense? unlikely.
Lars needs a fall guy?
Not following. My point is what can Cassese do at Virginia that would be deemed an improvement over his predecessor? There are a lot of paths that he fails to put up the same achievements and very few that he out-shines.
The strategy of hiring former HC's has worked pretty well for Nick Saban...there's more than one way to coach; this move should benefit Lars & KC as well. Maybe KC would've had Lars call a timeout on that last offensive possession?!
that might've only served to put the hoos in a worse position, as they scored on their last possession.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:02 pm
by FMUBart
I thought they had the ball with about 1:30 left and pretty much a full shot clock..taking a shot clock violation probably would've won them the game..

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:31 pm
by wgdsr
FMUBart wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:02 pm I thought they had the ball with about 1:30 left and pretty much a full shot clock..taking a shot clock violation probably would've won them the game..
the game was tied up with over 2 minutes left. uva won the face and then scored with under a minute left to go up 1, with no timeout taken. they never saw the ball again.

the legend grows.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:01 pm
by lilax
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:57 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:54 am
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:36 am
The Orfling wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.
It really depends. I am not sure he can do much to improve his reputation at Virginia. Perhaps, it is a good move if Lehigh is going to be a rebuild. How do you improve the offense at UVa? It is a role that has mostly downside. You finish outside the top 5 in scoring and it is bad result. Is he going to recruit better? Unlikely. Improve the offense? unlikely.
Lars needs a fall guy?
Not following. My point is what can Cassese do at Virginia that would be deemed an improvement over his predecessor? There are a lot of paths that he fails to put up the same achievements and very few that he out-shines.
This is something that I didn't really think of but is an excellent point. What is considered an improvement at UVA?

With Kirwan, Tiffany won 74% (108-38) of his games from 2015 to 2023.

In that same time period, Tiffany has won 72% (13-5) of his NCAA games.

Brown and UVA appeared in 7 out of 8 in the NCAA tournaments. They made it to the Quarterfinals 6 of 7 times, the Final Four 4 times, and won 2 National Championships.

I don't know if you could do any better over an 8-year period.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:11 pm
by HooDat
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:36 am
The Orfling wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:43 pm
TopShelf585 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm Sounds like you found your Offensive Coordinator.
The news has already hit- have fun with that.
For a grad year? ;) :lol:

On a serious note, not a big fan of this, but I can understand him wanting to get out of Bethlehem.
Clever move by Cassese. A few good years at the steering wheel of the Maserati that is the UVA offense with the personnel they have currently and coming in the door will put Cassese back in the conversation for the big head coaching jobs in the future.
It really depends. I am not sure he can do much to improve his reputation at Virginia. Perhaps, it is a good move if Lehigh is going to be a rebuild. How do you improve the offense at UVa? It is a role that has mostly downside. You finish outside the top 5 in scoring and it is bad result. Is he going to recruit better? Unlikely. Improve the offense? unlikely.
What he does get is a higher probability of coaching on Memorial Day. Being on a staff that has won a national championship is a very significant differentiator. With HC and AHC and a ring, he becomes a different type of candidate.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:26 pm
by coda
Just look at UV
Lars gets there in 2017.. Takes Lars 2 seasons and then he is off and running.
2019- 17-3 NC
2020- Covid
2021- 14-4 NC
2022- 12-4 2nd round
2023- 13-4 final 4.

Last 4 complete season its 2 NCs and 1 final four. 2nd round is was the "failure". IF UVA continues this run, this will be a solid decision. I know it has happened in sports, but it is hard to bet on any team to continue that level of success for another 4 years.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:40 pm
by youthathletics
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:26 pm Just look at UV
Lars gets there in 2017.. Takes Lars 2 seasons and then he is off and running.
2019- 17-3 NC
2020- Covid
2021- 14-4 NC
2022- 12-4 2nd round
2023- 13-4 final 4.

Last 4 complete season its 2 NCs and 1 final four. 2nd round is was the "failure". IF UVA continues this run, this will be a solid decision. I know it has happened in sports, but it is hard to bet on any team to continue that level of success for another 4 years.
so that means Dom had many of the HS classes of 17-20/21 in the pipeline? Start adding in the covid years for some of those guys and maybe we can see part of the future?

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:08 pm
by FMUBart
wgdsr wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:31 pm
FMUBart wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:02 pm I thought they had the ball with about 1:30 left and pretty much a full shot clock..taking a shot clock violation probably would've won them the game..
the game was tied up with over 2 minutes left. uva won the face and then scored with under a minute left to go up 1, with no timeout taken. they never saw the ball again.

the legend grows.
Legend boy- UVA with the ball with 3 mins left up 11-9 with 1 minute on shot clock and they had just successfully cleared. The UVA midfielder attacked the ND short stick and dove into 2 additional Irish defenders--not sure why he is attacking there when the clock is now your opponent(especially when you consider the position before they held the ball in the corner). I was wrong on the time left, but would've been a GREAT time to call timeout; perhaps KC would've told Lars to do just that ;)

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:42 pm
by Finster
coda wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:26 pm Just look at UV
Lars gets there in 2017.. Takes Lars 2 seasons and then he is off and running.
2019- 17-3 NC
2020- Covid
2021- 14-4 NC
2022- 12-4 2nd round
2023- 13-4 final 4.

Last 4 complete season its 2 NCs and 1 final four. 2nd round is was the "failure". IF UVA continues this run, this will be a solid decision. I know it has happened in sports, but it is hard to bet on any team to continue that level of success for another 4 years.



If we’re being honest, this season was a failure for Virginia. They had easily the best team, with a superstar at FOGO. They had the best player, Shellenberger. Ridiculously talented transfers.

To not win imo was a hit. They should’ve gone undefeated. And before you jump on me, the players feel the same.

Re: UVA 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:44 pm
by wgdsr
FMUBart wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:08 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:31 pm
FMUBart wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:02 pm I thought they had the ball with about 1:30 left and pretty much a full shot clock..taking a shot clock violation probably would've won them the game..
the game was tied up with over 2 minutes left. uva won the face and then scored with under a minute left to go up 1, with no timeout taken. they never saw the ball again.

the legend grows.
Legend boy- UVA with the ball with 3 mins left up 11-9 with 1 minute on shot clock and they had just successfully cleared. The UVA midfielder attacked the ND short stick and dove into 2 additional Irish defenders--not sure why he is attacking there when the clock is now your opponent(especially when you consider the position before they held the ball in the corner). I was wrong on the time left, but would've been a GREAT time to call timeout; perhaps KC would've told Lars to do just that ;)
3+ minutes.
50+ seconds on shot clock.
beat the nd short stick.
dove to get additional angle on entenmann well before running into any other defenders.
ftfy

if kc wants to take their best shot away in 3 possessions by stalling... after disastrous stall ball resulting in bad turnovers in the previous 2 possessions... with over 3 minutes left... i wanna coach against that guy.