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Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:01 pm
by ICGrad
Asgot wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:04 pm Not sure how you put ND in over OSU when they lost to them head to head.
As long as you agree that this means Denver gets in over OSU (based on the HtH win) then I'm fine with this sound logic.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:09 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?
ya

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:43 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 8:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?
ya
I hope they make it. I was just speculating amongst the Ivy Teams they may be the first out. I could be wrong.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:45 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 8:43 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 8:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?
ya
I hope they make it. I was just speculating amongst the Ivy Teams they may be the first out. I could be wrong.
if you're not, i'll eat my hat.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 9:39 pm
by MoralTerpitude
Big deal. Posters on the Hopkins thread have been seen eating hats completely unprovoked, but not unseasoned.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:46 pm
by PizzaSnake
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 8:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?
ya
What kind of hat do you have?

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:20 pm
by 10stone5
Duke out.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:22 pm
by DocBarrister
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 9:39 pm Big deal. Posters on the Hopkins thread have been seen eating hats completely unprovoked, but not unseasoned.
They go well with Worcestershire sauce.

DocBarrister 8-)

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:27 pm
by MoralTerpitude
DocBarrister wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:22 pm
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 9:39 pm Big deal. Posters on the Hopkins thread have been seen eating hats completely unprovoked, but not unseasoned.
They go well with Worcestershire sauce.

DocBarrister 8-)
I’d have figured you more for Old Bay. :D

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:28 pm
by Neverplaydown
If Duke gets in then all of D 1 lax is a total S show. Duke underperformed in so many ways. This really proves that getting all the so called top kids means squat. Love Coach D, but he even knows that Duck does not deserve a bid.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:42 pm
by wgdsr
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 10:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 8:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?
ya
What kind of hat do you have?
i have lots of kinds.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:44 pm
by Farfromgeneva
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 10:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 8:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?
ya
What kind of hat do you have?
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/216383957068831199/

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:53 pm
by Jlax92
I think Duke is in. I also think it’s kind of amazing how they scheduled their first non-conference games of the season. They played and beat five eventual conference champions: Robert Morris, Manhattan, Vermont, Delaware and Richmond. This is pretty amazing foresight. I know there’s no extra points for that but Duke played a top-caliber lacrosse schedule and on any given day they have the talent, depth, coaching and pedigree to play competitive lacrosse against any team in the country. No I did not go/play/work for Duke. They are far from my favorite team. They are the upper crust of the white lax bro establishment and could handle being knocked down a peg or two. Lacrosse needs fresh teams during the NCAA tourney while they are on TV for the split-second of the year. That being said I still think they get in. But how about that early season schedule?

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 9:35 am
by TopShelf585
Jlax92 wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:53 pm I think Duke is in. I also think it’s kind of amazing how they scheduled their first non-conference games of the season. They played and beat five eventual conference champions: Robert Morris, Manhattan, Vermont, Delaware and Richmond. This is pretty amazing foresight.
Clearly they knew what the committee looks for when handing out at large bids- they probably thought those teams and Loyola had the best shot at winning the AQ in their conference and that would build their case as long as they could hold up in the ACC.
Good strategy- we’ll see how it plays out.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 10:59 am
by stupefied
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Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:31 am
by BigTom5
For the last month, the ACC has been projected to be at best a 2 bid league tops based solely on RPI, so Ivy and B1G fans have been ardently defending its use and have been worried the selection committee wouldn’t use it as a main criteria like in previous years.

In the last 48 hours, the RPI has flipped and uva/duke/nd are projected to get in over osu/harvard, so now Ivy/B1G fans are anti-RPI. It’s quite funny.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:32 am
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:42 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 10:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 8:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:46 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:25 pm
ICGrad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 pm Do you have Brown, Cornell and Penn/Yale ahead of Princeton for an at large bid?
I can see scenarios where Cornell and/or Brown get screwed over. But Princeton? How can you claim you're using RPI as one of your key metrics and then leave out the team with the #2 RPI?

Never gonna happen.
I believe Brown may be the most at risk.
i'll eat my hat.
If they are left out?
ya
What kind of hat do you have?
i have lots of kinds.
Good fiber.

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:34 am
by FMUBart
Answer this question honestly: As an opponent in the NCAA, who would you like to play choosing between OSU/Harvard/Duke/JU? Personally, I would answer the other 3 before Duke...

Re: Is Duke In Or Out After That Loss To Notre Dame?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:40 am
by ICGrad
BigTom5 wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 11:31 am In the last 48 hours, the RPI has flipped and uva/duke/nd are projected to get in over osu/harvard, so now Ivy/B1G fans are anti-RPI. It’s quite funny.
I don't think any of the Ivy fans have had any kind of expectation that Harvard will get in after the Yale loss.

In fact, the scenario that I have seen most commonly articulated is the one that has played out: ACC w/ 2 at-larges, b10 with 2, unless ND beats Duke and Rutgers beats OSU, in which case it flips to ACC 3 B10 1...which is exactly what happened.

What we've actually seen over the last few weeks is ACC fans, normally huge proponents of RPI, whining about the possibility of only getting 2 or *gasp* even 1 team in if the cards fell a certain way and the committee went straight RPI. Ivy fans right now are saying the committee better not change direction and, say, give OSU a bid over Brown or Cornell, the more deserving IL teams (from an RPI perspective, but also using just about any other metric imaginable) because of some bs eyeball test.