Trump's Russian Collusion

[a fan]

...& you're willing to believe anything, without evidence or proof, so long as it damages Trump.

Nonsense. How in heaven's name does some Russian historian being accused of cozying up to Flynn damage Trump? I don't believe it one way or the other....I don't care. All I asked is: how do you know she isn't a spy? You don't.

I've told you from the get-go that the stuff we know as fact is plenty to damage Trump and his idiots. The hotel meeting. The lying---remember the "old days" when you thought lying was a bad thing?

Now, it's all good, G.

[OCanada]

Ironic. Whatever the proof in the Report Trump wants to suppress it. So do the republicans in Congress. After voting 100% in the House for its release when it cane time to act they declined. There is nonetheless an enormous amount of evidence in plain sight of quid pro quo, election interference is beyond question etc

The question in my mind is were trumps people so stupid the Russians totally played them or were Trump’s people to stupid to actually pull it off

[MDlaxfan76]

Ah, so I do understand the complaint, old salt.

I'm right: don't lie about meeting Russians. If Flynn and Trump didn't play their stupid games, and lie every chance they get....all this paranoia goes away, and it's a nothing story.

You desperately want to blame everyone but Trump's crew.

I have never understood this. You know they lied non stop. You know he's not fit for office. You know all these people weren't properly vetted.

But you don't want to---not even for a second--- put even one scintilla of blame on them for all this collateral damage. It's always someone else's fault.

Salty just likes Trump's policies, a fan.

...& you're willing to believe anything, without evidence or proof, so long as it damages Trump.

Whatever it takes. The ends justifiy the means.

I'll be happy for the gal if it turns out she's clean as a whistle.
I just don't assume she's clean just because she says so.

Again, there appears to have been a very legitimate basis for concern about how she obtained access, very unusual access, to secret Soviet-era files. Maybe she was just persuasive? Or, maybe she was connected at high levels.

I'm not sure how it will matter, though, in terms of Trump. Even if she was found to be a flat out GRU agent I don't think that really impacts Trump. Not really Flynn either, unless it was found that he played footsie with her and was compromised as a result. Maybe he was. Maybe not. I'm guessing not.

Regardless, it seems to me he came clean, Mueller thinks he was very helpful and truthful, once he decided to stop lying and cooperate instead. Whatever he did, right or wrong, wittingly or witless, he's owned up to with Mueller.

Good enough for me.

That said, this is the sort of thing that is why the report needs to come out. Let it clear those who should be cleared. Let it illuminate what the Russians did, and who was involved. Who lied, and who did not? Who covered up, who 'obstructed,' and who did not?

Bottomline, what is the truth and how do we know?

And, what don't we know?
Why don't we know? Obstructed?

[OCanada]

WhT does it have to do Old Salt? The irrelevance lies with anything involving Flynn that does not acknowledge he said he was guilty and resigned his office. Anything else detracts from his office and responsibilities as an officer in the military serving our country.

[a fan]

That has nothing to do with the IC's willingness, & the MSM's complicity, in smearing Svetlana to damage Flynn & Trump, with a contrived bogus story.

It has everything to do with it. If you're a reporter, and the guy you are looking at (and his direct reports) keeps lying about contacts with Russians....do you get more suspicious, or less suspicious? All the lying has had cascading effects...and has done cascading damage.



I don't understand why you are digging your heels in with this stuff. This is not that complicated.

[youthathletics]

Drip drip drip. https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/ ... 28003?s=21

Clapper a leaker to WaPo? Probably not but the water appears to be at 211 degrees, almost boiling, maybe?

[a fan]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

[MDlaxfan76]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

[MDlaxfan76]

Drip drip drip. https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/ ... 28003?s=21

Clapper a leaker to WaPo? Probably not but the water appears to be at 211 degrees, almost boiling, maybe?

So, who was the illegal leak to this cat?

[old salt]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

I'm not holding my breath that Mueller investigated IC/FBI leaks.

I'm hoping to learn from IG Horowitz who got comp'd with Nats & Caps tickets.

[youthathletics]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

Not at all, there are people in position that can read classified information. it's not all or nothing.

[OCanada]

The biggest leaker with the longest history of it is Trump, leaks are how information gets out when others are trying to suppress it or keep it under wraps.

Larry Summers once asked the Finance minister of Greece if he was an insider or outsider. Insiders hate it when outsiders learn about them. Insiders include a small circle of friends to use a Phil Ochs song. They don’t share information with outsiders which almost everyone

[MDlaxfan76]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

Not at all, there are people in position that can read classified information. it's not all or nothing.

So provide them the un-redacted report. Now, no more delay.

[MDlaxfan76]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

I'm not holding my breath that Mueller investigated IC/FBI leaks.

I'm hoping to learn from IG Horowitz who got comp'd with Nats & Caps tickets.

My point is that this guy claims to have information that would surely constitute a leak of classified level info. Right now, just got it. You ticked off about his getting this?

[a fan]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

Not at all, there are people in position that can read classified information. it's not all or nothing.

Ah, so "today" you trust the Deep State to review the Mueller report for you, eh? Don't need to see it for yourself?

The logic being bandied about in the next two years is really going to be something.

[a fan]

I'm not holding my breath that Mueller investigated IC/FBI leaks.

It's one of the first things I'd do----read and investigate the work on the case that's already been done.

But that's just me.

[CU88]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

Not at all, there are people in position that can read classified information. it's not all or nothing.

Ah, so "today" you trust the Deep State to review the Mueller report for you, eh? Don't need to see it for yourself?

The logic being bandied about in the next two years is really going to be something.

+1

[a fan]

FoxNation has already forgotten that they've been telling us for over a year that they don't trust Mueller---he's in on the conspiracy to take Trump down. They've forgotten they've been telling us that this "entire investigation" has been the machinations of the Deep State.

So rather than ask: "what's Mueller hiding in his report, and who is he covering for"..... they've forgotten all about that. It's like watching a monkey try and solve a rubik's cube....thinking for prolonged periods makes FoxNation tired and hungry.

They'll catch on to their error, and demand to see the report. (maybe)

[old salt]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

I'm not holding my breath that Mueller investigated IC/FBI leaks.

I'm hoping to learn from IG Horowitz who got comp'd with Nats & Caps tickets.

My point is that this guy claims to have information that would surely constitute a leak of classified level info. Right now, just got it. You ticked off about his getting this?

What guy ? What are you talking about ?

If Halper & 5 eyes cronies -- if they're FBI informants, I doubt that Mueller or Barr will burn them (sources & methods).

[MDlaxfan76]

Let me guess. "Suddenly" your "side" will want to see the un-redacted Mueller report?

Surely Barr mentioned what was in that tweet. Amiright?

I'm not holding my breath that Mueller investigated IC/FBI leaks.

I'm hoping to learn from IG Horowitz who got comp'd with Nats & Caps tickets.

My point is that this guy claims to have information that would surely constitute a leak of classified level info. Right now, just got it. You ticked off about his getting this?

What guy ? What are you talking about ?

If Halper & 5 eyes cronies -- if they're FBI informants, I doubt that Mueller or Barr will burn them (sources & methods).

Paul Sperry, the racist Islamphobe whose Twitter feed youth linked to above. He's the one claiming to have seen "highly classified" information that he claims links Clapper to a leak...