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Re: Climate kick in the teeth

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:52 pm
by lagerhead
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:45 pm
lagerhead wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:48 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:00 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:51 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:54 pm

It would be interesting to understand the deals China already has, and when they signed them. My bet is the bulk were signed after Trump pulled the US out of the Paris Accord.
Are you serious? Any deal the Chinese signed during the trump administration won’t come in line for years. If you believe that you understand the Chinese will not address climate change so now what?
.. this has nothing to do with deals the Chinese have signed with the US. When Trump dumped the Paris Accord, every other country took note. You really think that did not cause other countries to consider decreasing their own commitment?? :lol: Fortunately the Euros pretty much stayed onboard expecting or perhaps hoping we would returned to out senses when Trump was gone.
You said China deals signed after trump pulled out!!
... to be clear. I suspect the Chinese had fewer third world power plant financing deals before Trump was elected President than they did when Trump left office. Probably the Japanese and S. Koreans as well. The UN has been beating this particular drum (stop the third world financing for power plants) for years. Various countries got onboard earlier than others. If a country had not committed to this before Trump, they certainly were not going to commit after Trump was elected and they saw how things shook out. I bet within the next year China and Japan will both come around and Australia will not backslide.
Their growth in power did not happen overnight. Their economy has been a threat for a while now. Power investments are not made in 4 year time horizons.

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:08 pm
by youthathletics
What do you all make of Dong Jingwei ?

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:10 pm
by PizzaSnake
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:08 pm What do you all make of Dong Jingwei ?
Interesting, but not really related to the environment. I'm a little sensitive about non sequitur postings after the big roll-up...

However, I'll opine. He's a dead man if he defected. His relatives in China are f&cked, but good.

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:21 am
by PizzaSnake
AMOC

"The scientists’ concern stems from their understanding of thousands of years of the prehistoric climate record. In the past, a great weakening or even shutdown of this arm of the Gulf Stream seems to have triggered rapid changes in temperatures and precipitation patterns around the North Atlantic and beyond.

The northern arm of the Gulf Stream is but one tentacle of a larger, ocean-spanning tangle of currents called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC. Scientists have strong evidence from ice and sediment cores that the AMOC has weakened and shut down before in the past 13,000 years. As a result, mean temperatures in parts of Europe may have rapidly dropped to about 15 degrees Celsius below today’s averages, ushering in arctic like conditions. Parts of northern Africa and northern South America became much drier. Rainfall may even have declined as far away as what is now China. And some of these changes may have occurred in a matter of decades, maybe less."

'"In short, the cold blob may signal that the northern arm of the Gulf Stream no longer arrives with the same strength to the North Atlantic. That a warming atmosphere has, paradoxically, cooled one part of the world.

The science remains relatively new, and not everyone agrees the AMOC is actually slowing. But in both scientific modeling of climate change and in the prehistoric record, a North Atlantic cooling presages a shutdown of the current. “One of the hallmarks of a shutdown is this cold blob,” says Dr. de Menocal. “The cold blob is a big deal.”'

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... e=Homepage

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:24 pm
by jhu72
Chirality. Very cool. "Mr. Spock, scan the northern hemisphere for life."

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:58 pm
by Brooklyn

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:25 pm
by youthathletics
jhu72 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:24 pm Chirality. Very cool. "Mr. Spock, scan the northern hemisphere for life."
Very cool jhu72.

Cant believe Brooklyn buries something worthwhile, with a silly ass cartoon. :roll:

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:46 am
by jhu72

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:59 am
by PizzaSnake
Oops. Out of design spec range. Going to be more like this. By the by, how many of you have the correct sized downspouts on your house?

"The intensity of these storms exceeded the design standards for pump stations and combined sewer overflow facilities serving the Detroit region," Brown said at a press conference on Saturday.

https://news.yahoo.com/vehicles-stuck-f ... 00852.html

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Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:30 am
by youthathletics
Downspout size, so much more than just size. :lol: Do me a favor and try this test. Fill up a 5 gallon bucket of water, set a 6 foot ladder in front of your sink, carry the bucket up a few steps the pour the entire bucket in to the sink with one motion .....let is know if your doesnt beat your a$$ for flooding the entire kitchen. :lol: :lol:

Sad story.....my good fried who is a residential home builder has lived in his home for 15 years, never once a water problem. Well, an adjacent neighborhood went in, with asphalt roads and culver drains that all headed towards his small street. Now when they have major storms, his entire lower level floods, half is garage doors are under water. County Civil Engineers did not look past the new neighborhood and undersized the culver storm pipe in his neighborhood.

If not mistaken, Texas is also running into issues like this being so flat and all the added development.

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:25 pm
by PizzaSnake
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:30 am Downspout size, so much more than just size. :lol: Do me a favor and try this test. Fill up a 5 gallon bucket of water, set a 6 foot ladder in front of your sink, carry the bucket up a few steps the pour the entire bucket in to the sink with one motion .....let is know if your doesnt beat your a$$ for flooding the entire kitchen. :lol: :lol:

Sad story.....my good fried who is a residential home builder has lived in his home for 15 years, never once a water problem. Well, an adjacent neighborhood went in, with asphalt roads and culver drains that all headed towards his small street. Now when they have major storms, his entire lower level floods, half is garage doors are under water. County Civil Engineers did not look past the new neighborhood and undersized the culver storm pipe in his neighborhood.

If not mistaken, Texas is also running into issues like this being so flat and all the added development.
As they say in Tejas, “raining like a cow p?ssing on a flat rock.”

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:18 am
by jhu72

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:14 am
by youthathletics
But it is also expected, to an extent, according to PDO cycles.

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:16 am
by jhu72
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:14 am
But it is also expected, to an extent, according to PDO cycles.
,,, as the article says

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:56 am
by PizzaSnake
"If it seems as if every summer features a litany of monthly records falling in Europe these days, as when Paris hit 108.7 degrees in 2019 during an extreme heat event, you’re not imagining things. The frequency and magnitude of heat extremes is experiencing a dramatic uptick thanks to human-induced climate change, largely stemming from the increased longevity and potency of high-pressure “heat domes.”

In addition to the immediate implications surrounding public health — concerning given the sparsity of air conditioning in parts of Europe and the aging, vulnerable populations — the ongoing heat, particularly in the Arctic, presents myriad feedback cycles and complications that can exacerbate climate change further. Among them are melting ice and permafrost, hastened by anomalous warmth."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... pe-russia/

"Environment Canada has issued heat warnings for a variety of people, including young children, pregnant women, the elderly and those with chronic illnesses.

BC Hydro, the main electric utility company in British Columbia, warned Monday that electricity demand was also setting records. “Extreme heat leads to record-breaking electricity demand for a second day in a row,” the company said on Twitter."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... at-lytton/

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:58 pm
by PizzaSnake
Drill, baby, kill?

'Ranchers and regulators are contending with uncontrolled leaks from thousands of abandoned oil and gas sites that could render some land “functionally uninhabitable.”'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... nd=premium

"There are 3.4 million old crude and gas wells in various states of abandonment across the U.S., an almost 20% increase in the past decade, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Less than half of those holes have been plugged, EPA figures showed. In all, the wells are spewing about 7 million metric tons of methane into the atmosphere every year, although unplugged wells tend to be 100 times more polluting than their plugged brethren.

Methane releases from abandoned gas wells have been particularly egregious, growing by 40% in the past three decades. As the energy industry pivots away from fossil fuels to combat climate change, the inventory of untended wells will only expand."

Not good. Really, really,really not good.


I hope the other capping and leak remediation is better than this sterling work...

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Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:15 pm
by youthathletics
This oughta be good for the environment, no? https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/n ... e/2543694/

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:28 pm
by jhu72
PizzaSnake wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:58 pm Drill, baby, kill?

'Ranchers and regulators are contending with uncontrolled leaks from thousands of abandoned oil and gas sites that could render some land “functionally uninhabitable.”'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... nd=premium

"There are 3.4 million old crude and gas wells in various states of abandonment across the U.S., an almost 20% increase in the past decade, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Less than half of those holes have been plugged, EPA figures showed. In all, the wells are spewing about 7 million metric tons of methane into the atmosphere every year, although unplugged wells tend to be 100 times more polluting than their plugged brethren.

Methane releases from abandoned gas wells have been particularly egregious, growing by 40% in the past three decades. As the energy industry pivots away from fossil fuels to combat climate change, the inventory of untended wells will only expand."

Not good. Really, really,really not good.


I hope the other capping and leak remediation is better than this sterling work...

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It's just a democrat hoax! Trumpnista think they are immune. :roll: You know, just like COVID.

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:51 am
by jhu72

Re: All Things Environment

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:38 am
by cradleandshoot
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:28 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:58 pm Drill, baby, kill?

'Ranchers and regulators are contending with uncontrolled leaks from thousands of abandoned oil and gas sites that could render some land “functionally uninhabitable.”'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... nd=premium

"There are 3.4 million old crude and gas wells in various states of abandonment across the U.S., an almost 20% increase in the past decade, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Less than half of those holes have been plugged, EPA figures showed. In all, the wells are spewing about 7 million metric tons of methane into the atmosphere every year, although unplugged wells tend to be 100 times more polluting than their plugged brethren.

Methane releases from abandoned gas wells have been particularly egregious, growing by 40% in the past three decades. As the energy industry pivots away from fossil fuels to combat climate change, the inventory of untended wells will only expand."

Not good. Really, really,really not good.


I hope the other capping and leak remediation is better than this sterling work...

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It's just a democrat hoax! Trumpnista think they are immune. :roll: You know, just like COVID.
How exactly did that crude oil and methane gas get put underground in the first place?? You have a doctorate degree and you ain't figured that out yet... :lol:. Big oil and gas crammed it all underground while nobody was looking. Sorry Dr Mengele, that nasty stuff has been percolating underground for millions of years. That would be shortly before you were born. ;)