https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... vy/590575/A Stain on the Honor of the Navy
In acceding to a White House request to cover the name of the USS John S. McCain, officers and officials revealed a rot within the service.
Eliot A. Cohen
Professor of strategic studies at Johns Hopkins University
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Just more distortion & spin of the basic facts I posted.CU77 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:15 pmhttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... vy/590575/A Stain on the Honor of the Navy
In acceding to a White House request to cover the name of the USS John S. McCain, officers and officials revealed a rot within the service.
Eliot A. Cohen
Professor of strategic studies at Johns Hopkins University
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It's not fake news. The actions taken or not taken by the Navy are only relevant to that small part of the story. Some dim bulb thought it would be a good idea to curry favor with the Orange Turd by sending out instructions to remove the mote in his eye. I am taking god at his word, that he did not order it. The Navy action or inaction only serves to provide a branch of the story.
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" a strategically placed barge ". Cohen probably posts in the Hopkins thread too.
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So your spin is more factual?old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:18 pmJust more distortion & spin of the basic facts I posted.CU77 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:15 pmhttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... vy/590575/A Stain on the Honor of the Navy
In acceding to a White House request to cover the name of the USS John S. McCain, officers and officials revealed a rot within the service.
Eliot A. Cohen
Professor of strategic studies at Johns Hopkins University
Doesn't matter what did or didn't happen. The email says it all - hide things from Trump, like McCain's name on a boat, cuz he might get upset. Mattis wouldn't have allowed that to happen.
As a crew member I would tell my DOPUS CIC to go f' himself....
His disregard for all things is truly stunning. I pray I never see a ship named after him. (vomiting smilie)
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Get the hell out of here! Really!! They have the same surname as John McCain? BS.
“I wish you would!”
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It was heck Memorial Day and that Ship lost 10 US Navy Sailors less than 2 years ago.old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No mention of them!
Happy Memorial Day.
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by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
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Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
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Exactly....CU88 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 4:10 pmIt was heck Memorial Day and that Ship lost 10 US Navy Sailors less than 2 years ago.old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No mention of them!
Happy Memorial Day.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 4:06 pmGet the hell out of here! Really!! They have the same surname as John McCain? BS.
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Salty's going to next tell us either:foreverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
1) whoever leaked the email should be put in jail; or
2) the email itself wasn't real, never happened.
Problem is that Trump acknowledged that the email happened and it was "well meaning'...yes, someone thought Trump has a fragile psyche and was worried about him going off on an embarrassing rant while in Japan. (Assuming it wasn't actually ordered by Trump himself).
Yes, it should be alarming that someone, who is undoubtedly in a far better position to predict Trump's temper than we are, thought he needed to be protected that way. That's pretty awful in and of itself.
But that Trump actually appreciated the attempt?
That's the real story, salty.
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Where the hell have you been for 28 months.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmsomeone thought Trump has a fragile psycheforeverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
Trump has been under withering criticism and personal slurs from self-serving condescending peacocks from every corner. Every hour every day every week. 365/24/7. Every MSM outlets, every democrat, and even some republicans. The deep states been trying to take his election away and are trying to foul the next one.
Doubt you could have stood it or a week.
Fragile my rump.
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Methinks thou too hast a fragile ego, 6ft...6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:40 pmWhere the hell have you been for 28 months.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmsomeone thought Trump has a fragile psycheforeverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
Trump has been under withering criticism and personal slurs from self-serving condescending peacocks from every corner. Every hour every day every week. 365/24/7. Every MSM outlets, every democrat, and even some republicans. The deep states been trying to take his election away and are trying to foul the next one.
Doubt you could have stood it or a week.
Fragile my rump.
Woe is me, poor, poor victim Trump.
If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen!
What a bunch of whiners.
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6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:40 pmWhere the hell have you been for 28 months.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmsomeone thought Trump has a fragile psycheforeverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
Trump has been under withering criticism and personal slurs from self-serving condescending peacocks from every corner. Every hour every day every week. 365/24/7. Every MSM outlets, every democrat, and even some republicans. The deep states been trying to take his election away and are trying to foul the next one.
Doubt you could have stood it or a week.
Fragile my rump.
“I wish you would!”
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Like I said. Whatever Trump does, he'll be criticized. Some well intentioned horse holder in the WH military office had a bright idea to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation for all concerned, that the media would hype into a bash Trump story, no matter how it was handled. ...as proven by the bogus story which emerged. Trump made no mention of the crews of the carrier Reagan, her air wing, & 3 escorts, all homeported in Yokosuka. He just mentioned the crews in attendance.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmSalty's going to next tell us either:foreverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
1) whoever leaked the email should be put in jail; or
2) the email itself wasn't real, never happened.
Problem is that Trump acknowledged that the email happened and it was "well meaning'...yes, someone thought Trump has a fragile psyche and was worried about him going off on an embarrassing rant while in Japan. (Assuming it wasn't actually ordered by Trump himself).
Yes, it should be alarming that someone, who is undoubtedly in a far better position to predict Trump's temper than we are, thought he needed to be protected that way. That's pretty awful in and of itself.
But that Trump actually appreciated the attempt?
That's the real story, salty.
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Not by everyone.....old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 9:46 pmMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmSalty's going to next tell us either:foreverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
1) whoever leaked the email should be put in jail; or
2) the email itself wasn't real, never happened.
Problem is that Trump acknowledged that the email happened and it was "well meaning'...yes, someone thought Trump has a fragile psyche and was worried about him going off on an embarrassing rant while in Japan. (Assuming it wasn't actually ordered by Trump himself).
Yes, it should be alarming that someone, who is undoubtedly in a far better position to predict Trump's temper than we are, thought he needed to be protected that way. That's pretty awful in and of itself.
But that Trump actually appreciated the attempt?
That's the real story, salty.
Like I said. Whatever Trump does, he'll be criticized. Some well intentioned horse holder in the WH military office had a bright idea to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation for all concerned, that the media would hype into a bash Trump story, no matter how it was handled. ...as proven by the bogus story which emerged. Trump made no mention of the crews of the carrier Reagan, her air wing, & 3 escorts, all homeported in Yokosuka. He just mentioned the crews in attendance.
“I wish you would!”
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There's plenty to criticize Trump for, without making stuff up & putting the Navy in the middle of the political gotcha gong show.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:10 pmNot by everyone.....old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 9:46 pmMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmSalty's going to next tell us either:foreverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
1) whoever leaked the email should be put in jail; or
2) the email itself wasn't real, never happened.
Problem is that Trump acknowledged that the email happened and it was "well meaning'...yes, someone thought Trump has a fragile psyche and was worried about him going off on an embarrassing rant while in Japan. (Assuming it wasn't actually ordered by Trump himself).
Yes, it should be alarming that someone, who is undoubtedly in a far better position to predict Trump's temper than we are, thought he needed to be protected that way. That's pretty awful in and of itself.
But that Trump actually appreciated the attempt?
That's the real story, salty.
Like I said. Whatever Trump does, he'll be criticized. Some well intentioned horse holder in the WH military office had a bright idea to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation for all concerned, that the media would hype into a bash Trump story, no matter how it was handled. ...as proven by the bogus story which emerged. Trump made no mention of the crews of the carrier Reagan, her air wing, & 3 escorts, all homeported in Yokosuka. He just mentioned the crews in attendance.
They're just trying to support their CinC & take care of their troops.
This is why the military hates the media.
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Let's hope Liar in Chief doesn't speak at D-Day event this month.
Even with how low he has set the bar for his behavior, I expect that he will embarrass all Americans, yet again.
I for one miss RR:
http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/reagan-d-day.htm
Even with how low he has set the bar for his behavior, I expect that he will embarrass all Americans, yet again.
I for one miss RR:
http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/reagan-d-day.htm
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
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Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
This is cradle and shoot signing out.
Re: Orange Duce
As usual you read it exactly backwards. Trump was accused of having a fragile ego.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 8:50 pmMethinks thou too hast a fragile ego, 6ft...6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:40 pmWhere the hell have you been for 28 months.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmsomeone thought Trump has a fragile psycheforeverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
Trump has been under withering criticism and personal slurs from self-serving condescending peacocks from every corner. Every hour every day every week. 365/24/7. Every MSM outlets, every democrat, and even some republicans. The deep states been trying to take his election away and are trying to foul the next one.
Doubt you could have stood it or a week.
Fragile my rump.
Woe is me, poor, poor victim Trump.
If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen!
What a bunch of whiners.
I said he couldn't have with the punishment he receives 365/24/7. I'm not whining
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You speak for all of the military now? The military hates the media.....right up until “they” retire and go on TV!old salt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:40 amThere's plenty to criticize Trump for, without making stuff up & putting the Navy in the middle of the political gotcha gong show.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:10 pmNot by everyone.....old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 9:46 pmMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:10 pmSalty's going to next tell us either:foreverlax wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:28 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:00 pm No. No matter what Trump did, he'd be criticized & Meagan would have to grieve again.
He avoided any mention of McCain, so as to not bring it up again & distract. That's what his military staff was trying to do.
The Navy & sailors aren't anxious to revisit the W Pac ship collisions -- not the Navy's finest hour,
The ceremonies on the Wasp were in the hangar deck. Not enough room on the McCain & it's still undergoing repairs.
Had somebody not leaked the email, it would have been a non-story. The Navy didn't follow through on it. Much ado about nothing.
No....this is all him or those wanting to please the dear leader.
Clearly someone in the administrations believes it's worthy of the public knowledge.
In your opinion.....in reality, it's a clown show and Trump is an embarrassment.
1) whoever leaked the email should be put in jail; or
2) the email itself wasn't real, never happened.
Problem is that Trump acknowledged that the email happened and it was "well meaning'...yes, someone thought Trump has a fragile psyche and was worried about him going off on an embarrassing rant while in Japan. (Assuming it wasn't actually ordered by Trump himself).
Yes, it should be alarming that someone, who is undoubtedly in a far better position to predict Trump's temper than we are, thought he needed to be protected that way. That's pretty awful in and of itself.
But that Trump actually appreciated the attempt?
That's the real story, salty.
Like I said. Whatever Trump does, he'll be criticized. Some well intentioned horse holder in the WH military office had a bright idea to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation for all concerned, that the media would hype into a bash Trump story, no matter how it was handled. ...as proven by the bogus story which emerged. Trump made no mention of the crews of the carrier Reagan, her air wing, & 3 escorts, all homeported in Yokosuka. He just mentioned the crews in attendance.
They're just trying to support their CinC & take care of their troops.
This is why the military hates the media.
“I wish you would!”