youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:16 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:59 pm
Don't you just love really stupid use of "statistics" to supposedly make a partisan point...but it most definitely does not, making it all the more stupid...
Come on, man...
Callen's an idiot, apparently/allegedly also a sexual abuser, but hey, that's a feature not a bug these days on the right.
Higher per capita gun violence in rural versus urban
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... -rcna81462
And most of the urban cities with highest per capita gun homicides are in red states...not all, but most.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder ... -s-cities/
But hey, let's cherry pick some of the larger blue cities in the US and pretend that if they weren't included we wouldn't also have the highest gun violence per capita in the world...
per capita.
ugh so dumb.
But pretty on point fact checking in the comments section, so there's that...
It’s really just simple addition and subtraction. I didn’t do the math….did you? If you subtract total gun deaths from the major cities in the US, does it then rank us much further down as they suggest? It’s a yes or no. That is all.
Or was your goal to just name call someone, once again? You like calling other people names…..not sure where that comes from.
Let’s assume he’s correct, which he likely is close. Furthering the conversation, those places also have significant gun laws, which are clearly ignored. Then, if 2A is never going to budge…..we have to figure out how to lower those numbers in the places and people that are in the higher percentile to make a significant difference.
So let’s talk about it…..why are the numbers so high in these cities, then how do you curtail those numbers……while at the same time screaming to reduce police forces and defunding them.
Maybe if we name call more people, they’ll be less shootings?
youth,
you are smarter than that.
Sure, if you subtract a big percentage of our population, the US would not rank as high. duh.
But subtract the counties with the highest per capita gun violence, which are rural, to add up to the same population subtraction and we'd rank way lower...uhh ohh, those are red counties.
Or, if you want to stay urban, subtract the worst urban centers in red states to add up to the same population as the worst in blue states, and also lower...uhh ohh, there's goes that argument.
Yes, it's a really stupid use of "math" or "statistics" to suggest as a valid conclusion that blue state gun laws are the problem in America. The opposite conclusion is a much more valid argument. Clearly. Math.
But here's the thing, is this guy really that stupid?
Or does he just want to be incendiary and gain right wing followers?
I say he's a grifter; 4 women say he's a sexual abuser.
Now if you want to talk about "defund the police", I quite agree, that ain't the answer (police reform being important, we need more good cops in the areas, not less). Our current President agrees with me. The mass of elected Dem officials agree with me. Heck, our Dem mayor in Baltimore agrees with me. You may recall that I'm a Republican? sure old school, but nonetheless...
But as long as you want to talk about that different subject, how do you feel about these MAGA Republicans in Congress, "screaming to defund" law enforcement, the FBI and DOJ? Who cares about drug and human traffickers, illegal gun traffickers, terrorists, etc? Seriously, does anyone
really believe that the FBI is a left wing organization? Do you?
Back to gun laws. Yup, we have a horrible gun culture in America, we're awash in guns, and way too many idiots have no respect for life, not their own, not the lives of children and other innocent bystanders. Everything needs to be solved by guns and more guns..wait, really?
The issue for the states which have tough gun laws is that their neighbors do not, so it's immensely profitable and darn easy to simply smuggle them across state lines to those happy to buy them.
I'm a gun owner,
and like most gun owners, I want much more restriction on who can acquire weapons and for what purpose, as well as the type of weapons...I've detailed my views and policy prescriptions previously, pretty darn thoroughly. But it needs to be national policy, with ample funding to enforce.
Bottomline, we need to change the culture to one in which we All understand that owning a weapon is a privilege and a responsibility. They are immensely dangerous and need to be handled with great respect and care. And no one unwilling to do so should have one, period.
FTR when did I quote you about anything? You are confused, I asked you a simple question. Maybe I can forward your solution to Mayor Malik Evans. I'm certain he would greatly appreciate your input.
