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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:15 pm
by Seacoaster(1)
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:15 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:14 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom of 5

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin ... -mom-5.amp

An illegal migrant from El Salvador is responsible for the murder of Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother of five, police announced.

In a press conference on Saturday, Harford County Sheriff Jeffery Gahler said that Victor Martinez-Hernandez was arrested late Friday night and booked on Saturday morning.

"Five hours after meeting with [Morin's] family and just before midnight our time, police in Tulsa, Oklahoma assisted by our federal partners, located and arrested Rachel's murderer: Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez," Gahler said.

He was charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape.

The 23-year-old migrant illegally crossed into the United States in February 2023, police announced.

"We all suspected that Rachel was not his first victim," Gahler said. "It is my understanding that this suspect, this monster, fled to the United States illegally after committing the brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier, in January of 2023."

Gahler said that their first DNA match for Martinez-Hernandez was from a Los Angeles attack in March 2023.

"Once in our country, and likely emboldened by his anonymity, he brutally attacked a nine-year-old girl and her mother during a home invasion in March of 2023 in Los Angeles," Gahler said. "And as everyone I believe is aware, that was our first DNA match linking Rachel's case to the one in Los Angeles."

The sheriff turned his attention to the crisis at the Southern border, directing his remarks to the White House and to "both members of Congress."

"We are 1800 miles of the southern border," Gahler said. "And American citizens are not safe because of their failed immigration policies."

"This is the second time in two years that an innocent Harford County woman has lost her life to a criminal in our country illegally," he said, repeating his statement. "In both cases, they are suspects from El Salvador with ties to criminal gangs. This should not be happening."

"Victor Hernandez did not come to this country to make a better life for him or his family, he came here to escape the crimes he committed in El Salvador. He came here to murder Rachel and God-willing, no one else," he said.

"But that should have never been allowed to happen," Gahler said
https://abc7.com/post/chester-turner-la ... /14957576/

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/gun-viole ... =107262776
Way to minimize the death. and btw, nice logic.....one we have far more control over, the other...not so much.
On the contrary, you and Kramer elevate a specific, probably enormously small subset of homicides over all of the others as a way to make a cheap political point. You and Kramer are the people using this poor woman's death as a political chit. You should be ashamed of yourselves and your pantless, stupid political party, which cheers on the stupidity of this sort of thing. You're all becoming Charlie Kirk.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:59 pm
by youthathletics
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:15 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:14 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom of 5

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin ... -mom-5.amp

An illegal migrant from El Salvador is responsible for the murder of Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother of five, police announced.

In a press conference on Saturday, Harford County Sheriff Jeffery Gahler said that Victor Martinez-Hernandez was arrested late Friday night and booked on Saturday morning.

"Five hours after meeting with [Morin's] family and just before midnight our time, police in Tulsa, Oklahoma assisted by our federal partners, located and arrested Rachel's murderer: Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez," Gahler said.

He was charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape.

The 23-year-old migrant illegally crossed into the United States in February 2023, police announced.

"We all suspected that Rachel was not his first victim," Gahler said. "It is my understanding that this suspect, this monster, fled to the United States illegally after committing the brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier, in January of 2023."

Gahler said that their first DNA match for Martinez-Hernandez was from a Los Angeles attack in March 2023.

"Once in our country, and likely emboldened by his anonymity, he brutally attacked a nine-year-old girl and her mother during a home invasion in March of 2023 in Los Angeles," Gahler said. "And as everyone I believe is aware, that was our first DNA match linking Rachel's case to the one in Los Angeles."

The sheriff turned his attention to the crisis at the Southern border, directing his remarks to the White House and to "both members of Congress."

"We are 1800 miles of the southern border," Gahler said. "And American citizens are not safe because of their failed immigration policies."

"This is the second time in two years that an innocent Harford County woman has lost her life to a criminal in our country illegally," he said, repeating his statement. "In both cases, they are suspects from El Salvador with ties to criminal gangs. This should not be happening."

"Victor Hernandez did not come to this country to make a better life for him or his family, he came here to escape the crimes he committed in El Salvador. He came here to murder Rachel and God-willing, no one else," he said.

"But that should have never been allowed to happen," Gahler said
https://abc7.com/post/chester-turner-la ... /14957576/

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/gun-viole ... =107262776
Way to minimize the death. and btw, nice logic.....one we have far more control over, the other...not so much.
On the contrary, you and Kramer elevate a specific, probably enormously small subset of homicides over all of the others as a way to make a cheap political point. You and Kramer are the people using this poor woman's death as a political chit. You should be ashamed of yourselves and your pantless, stupid political party, which cheers on the stupidity of this sort of thing. You're all becoming Charlie Kirk.
Laughable....the fact you can't separate the US doing the right thing for ALL of us, shows just who entrenched you are in partisan pandering. Nice to see you use stats to further minimize the value of life.

I see your ginko baloba still ain't working ;) , I post plenty on crimes of all types, but they probably do not resonate with you b/c they have no partisan nit for you to pick.

Happy Father's Day, my friend! Hope the weather is pleasant up North and you enjoy a great meal.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:29 pm
by cradleandshoot
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:36 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom of 5

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin ... -mom-5.amp

An illegal migrant from El Salvador is responsible for the murder of Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother of five, police announced.

In a press conference on Saturday, Harford County Sheriff Jeffery Gahler said that Victor Martinez-Hernandez was arrested late Friday night and booked on Saturday morning.

"Five hours after meeting with [Morin's] family and just before midnight our time, police in Tulsa, Oklahoma assisted by our federal partners, located and arrested Rachel's murderer: Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez," Gahler said.

He was charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape.

The 23-year-old migrant illegally crossed into the United States in February 2023, police announced.

"We all suspected that Rachel was not his first victim," Gahler said. "It is my understanding that this suspect, this monster, fled to the United States illegally after committing the brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier, in January of 2023."

Gahler said that their first DNA match for Martinez-Hernandez was from a Los Angeles attack in March 2023.

"Once in our country, and likely emboldened by his anonymity, he brutally attacked a nine-year-old girl and her mother during a home invasion in March of 2023 in Los Angeles," Gahler said. "And as everyone I believe is aware, that was our first DNA match linking Rachel's case to the one in Los Angeles."

The sheriff turned his attention to the crisis at the Southern border, directing his remarks to the White House and to "both members of Congress."

"We are 1800 miles of the southern border," Gahler said. "And American citizens are not safe because of their failed immigration policies."

"This is the second time in two years that an innocent Harford County woman has lost her life to a criminal in our country illegally," he said, repeating his statement. "In both cases, they are suspects from El Salvador with ties to criminal gangs. This should not be happening."

"Victor Hernandez did not come to this country to make a better life for him or his family, he came here to escape the crimes he committed in El Salvador. He came here to murder Rachel and God-willing, no one else," he said.

"But that should have never been allowed to happen," Gahler said
You hear it all the time on this forum. Those are just meaningless statistics. If your loved one is the victim they are no longer meaningless statistics. The forum members here will excoriate you for having such petty beliefs. In their world the minute you cross the border you should be anointed with sainthood. There are no bad apples when it comes to illegal aliens. :roll:
Don't you just love their laughter and complete ignorance while being out of touch with the people of the US?

https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1802083607156048014
It is not out of character for who they really are. They envision 10s of millions of new democrat voters indebted to their party. Too bad Democrats don't treat homeless veterans that fought for this country with the same purpose. No body in the Democrat party in my hometown is paying for an extended hotel stay at the downtown Holiday inn. Those homeless folks live in tents on the access roads of local expressways. All the Democrats need to do is figure out how to give them absentee ballots.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:34 pm
by SCLaxAttack
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:59 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:15 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:14 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom of 5

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin ... -mom-5.amp

An illegal migrant from El Salvador is responsible for the murder of Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother of five, police announced.

In a press conference on Saturday, Harford County Sheriff Jeffery Gahler said that Victor Martinez-Hernandez was arrested late Friday night and booked on Saturday morning.

"Five hours after meeting with [Morin's] family and just before midnight our time, police in Tulsa, Oklahoma assisted by our federal partners, located and arrested Rachel's murderer: Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez," Gahler said.

He was charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape.

The 23-year-old migrant illegally crossed into the United States in February 2023, police announced.

"We all suspected that Rachel was not his first victim," Gahler said. "It is my understanding that this suspect, this monster, fled to the United States illegally after committing the brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier, in January of 2023."

Gahler said that their first DNA match for Martinez-Hernandez was from a Los Angeles attack in March 2023.

"Once in our country, and likely emboldened by his anonymity, he brutally attacked a nine-year-old girl and her mother during a home invasion in March of 2023 in Los Angeles," Gahler said. "And as everyone I believe is aware, that was our first DNA match linking Rachel's case to the one in Los Angeles."

The sheriff turned his attention to the crisis at the Southern border, directing his remarks to the White House and to "both members of Congress."

"We are 1800 miles of the southern border," Gahler said. "And American citizens are not safe because of their failed immigration policies."

"This is the second time in two years that an innocent Harford County woman has lost her life to a criminal in our country illegally," he said, repeating his statement. "In both cases, they are suspects from El Salvador with ties to criminal gangs. This should not be happening."

"Victor Hernandez did not come to this country to make a better life for him or his family, he came here to escape the crimes he committed in El Salvador. He came here to murder Rachel and God-willing, no one else," he said.

"But that should have never been allowed to happen," Gahler said
https://abc7.com/post/chester-turner-la ... /14957576/

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/gun-viole ... =107262776
Way to minimize the death. and btw, nice logic.....one we have far more control over, the other...not so much.
On the contrary, you and Kramer elevate a specific, probably enormously small subset of homicides over all of the others as a way to make a cheap political point. You and Kramer are the people using this poor woman's death as a political chit. You should be ashamed of yourselves and your pantless, stupid political party, which cheers on the stupidity of this sort of thing. You're all becoming Charlie Kirk.
Laughable....the fact you can't separate the US doing the right thing for ALL of us, shows just who entrenched you are in partisan pandering. Nice to see you use stats to further minimize the value of life.

I see your ginko baloba still ain't working ;) , I post plenty on crimes of all types, but they probably do not resonate with you b/c they have no partisan nit for you to pick.

Happy Father's Day, my friend! Hope the weather is pleasant up North and you enjoy a great meal.
"Doing the right thing for all of us"..... Does that mean you're going to call out the six SC justices that just put bump stocks out on the street for citizens and aliens alike?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:45 am
by kramerica.inc
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:36 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom of 5

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin ... -mom-5.amp

An illegal migrant from El Salvador is responsible for the murder of Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother of five, police announced.

In a press conference on Saturday, Harford County Sheriff Jeffery Gahler said that Victor Martinez-Hernandez was arrested late Friday night and booked on Saturday morning.

"Five hours after meeting with [Morin's] family and just before midnight our time, police in Tulsa, Oklahoma assisted by our federal partners, located and arrested Rachel's murderer: Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez," Gahler said.

He was charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape.

The 23-year-old migrant illegally crossed into the United States in February 2023, police announced.

"We all suspected that Rachel was not his first victim," Gahler said. "It is my understanding that this suspect, this monster, fled to the United States illegally after committing the brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier, in January of 2023."

Gahler said that their first DNA match for Martinez-Hernandez was from a Los Angeles attack in March 2023.

"Once in our country, and likely emboldened by his anonymity, he brutally attacked a nine-year-old girl and her mother during a home invasion in March of 2023 in Los Angeles," Gahler said. "And as everyone I believe is aware, that was our first DNA match linking Rachel's case to the one in Los Angeles."

The sheriff turned his attention to the crisis at the Southern border, directing his remarks to the White House and to "both members of Congress."

"We are 1800 miles of the southern border," Gahler said. "And American citizens are not safe because of their failed immigration policies."

"This is the second time in two years that an innocent Harford County woman has lost her life to a criminal in our country illegally," he said, repeating his statement. "In both cases, they are suspects from El Salvador with ties to criminal gangs. This should not be happening."

"Victor Hernandez did not come to this country to make a better life for him or his family, he came here to escape the crimes he committed in El Salvador. He came here to murder Rachel and God-willing, no one else," he said.

"But that should have never been allowed to happen," Gahler said
You hear it all the time on this forum. Those are just meaningless statistics. If your loved one is the victim they are no longer meaningless statistics. The forum members here will excoriate you for having such petty beliefs. In their world the minute you cross the border you should be anointed with sainthood. There are no bad apples when it comes to illegal aliens. :roll:
Don't you just love their laughter and complete ignorance while being out of touch with the people of the US?

https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1802083607156048014
This isn't to say all immigrants are murderers. I've repeated numerous times here how valuable immigrants are to this country.
This situation certainly highlights the immigration issue our country is having with no applications, no checks and balances, not enough enforcement. This guy was a murderer, who killed someone in his home country and his first thought was to come and "hide" anonymously in the US, where he was THEN secure enough in his anonymity to assault a young girl in her own house and stalk/murder Rachel Morin. Totally effed up.

That is how our neighbors and the ones coming in to our country see us. It's a land of opportunity, but not for the good any more. Incredibly disheartening. And a huge issue.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:14 am
by Typical Lax Dad
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:45 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:36 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom of 5

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin ... -mom-5.amp

An illegal migrant from El Salvador is responsible for the murder of Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother of five, police announced.

In a press conference on Saturday, Harford County Sheriff Jeffery Gahler said that Victor Martinez-Hernandez was arrested late Friday night and booked on Saturday morning.

"Five hours after meeting with [Morin's] family and just before midnight our time, police in Tulsa, Oklahoma assisted by our federal partners, located and arrested Rachel's murderer: Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez," Gahler said.

He was charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape.

The 23-year-old migrant illegally crossed into the United States in February 2023, police announced.

"We all suspected that Rachel was not his first victim," Gahler said. "It is my understanding that this suspect, this monster, fled to the United States illegally after committing the brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier, in January of 2023."

Gahler said that their first DNA match for Martinez-Hernandez was from a Los Angeles attack in March 2023.

"Once in our country, and likely emboldened by his anonymity, he brutally attacked a nine-year-old girl and her mother during a home invasion in March of 2023 in Los Angeles," Gahler said. "And as everyone I believe is aware, that was our first DNA match linking Rachel's case to the one in Los Angeles."

The sheriff turned his attention to the crisis at the Southern border, directing his remarks to the White House and to "both members of Congress."

"We are 1800 miles of the southern border," Gahler said. "And American citizens are not safe because of their failed immigration policies."

"This is the second time in two years that an innocent Harford County woman has lost her life to a criminal in our country illegally," he said, repeating his statement. "In both cases, they are suspects from El Salvador with ties to criminal gangs. This should not be happening."

"Victor Hernandez did not come to this country to make a better life for him or his family, he came here to escape the crimes he committed in El Salvador. He came here to murder Rachel and God-willing, no one else," he said.

"But that should have never been allowed to happen," Gahler said
You hear it all the time on this forum. Those are just meaningless statistics. If your loved one is the victim they are no longer meaningless statistics. The forum members here will excoriate you for having such petty beliefs. In their world the minute you cross the border you should be anointed with sainthood. There are no bad apples when it comes to illegal aliens. :roll:
Don't you just love their laughter and complete ignorance while being out of touch with the people of the US?

https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1802083607156048014
This isn't to say all immigrants are murderers. I've repeated numerous times here how valuable immigrants are to this country.
This situation certainly highlights the immigration issue our country is having with no applications, no checks and balances, not enough enforcement. This guy was a murderer, who killed someone in his home country and his first thought was to come and "hide" anonymously in the US, where he was THEN secure enough in his anonymity to assault a young girl in her own house and stalk/murder Rachel Morin. Totally effed up.

That is how our neighbors and the ones coming in to our country see us. It's a land of opportunity, but not for the good any more. Incredibly disheartening. And a huge issue.
Like the American that went to Canada.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:18 am
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:37 am
by MDlaxfan76
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:45 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:36 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom of 5

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin ... -mom-5.amp

An illegal migrant from El Salvador is responsible for the murder of Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother of five, police announced.

In a press conference on Saturday, Harford County Sheriff Jeffery Gahler said that Victor Martinez-Hernandez was arrested late Friday night and booked on Saturday morning.

"Five hours after meeting with [Morin's] family and just before midnight our time, police in Tulsa, Oklahoma assisted by our federal partners, located and arrested Rachel's murderer: Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez," Gahler said.

He was charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape.

The 23-year-old migrant illegally crossed into the United States in February 2023, police announced.

"We all suspected that Rachel was not his first victim," Gahler said. "It is my understanding that this suspect, this monster, fled to the United States illegally after committing the brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier, in January of 2023."

Gahler said that their first DNA match for Martinez-Hernandez was from a Los Angeles attack in March 2023.

"Once in our country, and likely emboldened by his anonymity, he brutally attacked a nine-year-old girl and her mother during a home invasion in March of 2023 in Los Angeles," Gahler said. "And as everyone I believe is aware, that was our first DNA match linking Rachel's case to the one in Los Angeles."

The sheriff turned his attention to the crisis at the Southern border, directing his remarks to the White House and to "both members of Congress."

"We are 1800 miles of the southern border," Gahler said. "And American citizens are not safe because of their failed immigration policies."

"This is the second time in two years that an innocent Harford County woman has lost her life to a criminal in our country illegally," he said, repeating his statement. "In both cases, they are suspects from El Salvador with ties to criminal gangs. This should not be happening."

"Victor Hernandez did not come to this country to make a better life for him or his family, he came here to escape the crimes he committed in El Salvador. He came here to murder Rachel and God-willing, no one else," he said.

"But that should have never been allowed to happen," Gahler said
You hear it all the time on this forum. Those are just meaningless statistics. If your loved one is the victim they are no longer meaningless statistics. The forum members here will excoriate you for having such petty beliefs. In their world the minute you cross the border you should be anointed with sainthood. There are no bad apples when it comes to illegal aliens. :roll:
Don't you just love their laughter and complete ignorance while being out of touch with the people of the US?

https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1802083607156048014
This isn't to say all immigrants are murderers. I've repeated numerous times here how valuable immigrants are to this country.
This situation certainly highlights the immigration issue our country is having with no applications, no checks and balances, not enough enforcement. This guy was a murderer, who killed someone in his home country and his first thought was to come and "hide" anonymously in the US, where he was THEN secure enough in his anonymity to assault a young girl in her own house and stalk/murder Rachel Morin. Totally effed up.

That is how our neighbors and the ones coming in to our country see us. It's any more. Incredibly disheartening. And a huge issue.
Aren't these statements in conflict?

Or are you saying that past generations did see America as "a land of opportunity... for the good"...but not the current immigrants?

You do realize that in every wave of immigrants, throughout American history, some were criminals including murderers and rapists?

Are there more now than then? What are you saying? Do you have some facts to back that up?

Obviously, every criminal who does come and commits a horrendous crime is a tragedy for the victims. I don't hear anyone minimizing that fact.

But to suggest that the vast majority of immigrants no longer come to this country for 'opportunity...for the good' is just nuts.

And that's why statistics on crimes committed by immigrants over time are informative and why comparisons of crime rates among immigrants versa native born are so instructive. They make darn clear that immigrants aren't committing crimes at a higher rate than previously and that immigrants commit fewer crimes as a proportion of the population than native born.

That this refutes far right wing media and political narratives, which have existed in EVERY immigrant wave, is not a problem with the facts but rather in the bigots.

Do you agree with that?

I agree with you that the system is broken, too many people are undocumented and thus not on the open path to citizenship that does such a great job of requiring those aspirants to invest themselves in American civics and history, becoming part of the fabric of a lawful, productive American society. We should have way, way more documented immigrants.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:24 pm
by old salt
The comparison of crime stats with native born is bogus. We grow our own criminals.
We are supposed to screen & be selective about who we let in.
We don't have to admit proven criminals or likely criminals (e.g. MS-13 tats).
These migrants are not coming via Ellis Island.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:32 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/homes/fl ... index.html

If the don’t like it, they shouldn’t be Chinese.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:44 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:24 pm The comparison of crime stats with native born is bogus. We grow our own criminals.
We are supposed to screen & be selective about who we let in.
We don't have to admit proven criminals or likely criminals (e.g. MS-13 tats).
These migrants are not coming via Ellis Island.
They can't work here legally, remember? We're told that simpy handing them work visas so that they can work here legally and pay taxes is insane, so we can't possibly do that.

So what's one likely outcome of that policy? What do you do to put food on the table if you're not allowed to work legally?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:56 pm
by old salt
Yeah, the migrant in question was wanted for murder in El Salvador, so he raped & murdered a mom of 5 here, because he couldn't get a job.

Stupid Dem-lib logic.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:17 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
We like our murderers and rapist to be red blooded Americans….

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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:22 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:56 pm Yeah, the migrant in question was wanted for murder in El Salvador, bur he raped & murdered a mom of 5 here, because he couldn't get a job.

Stupid Dem-lib logic.
No. Stupid partisan logic is: post clickbait stories about the handful immigrants doing really bad things, instead of the tens of millions who are doing fantastic things...and more importantly, use these stories as an excuse to never fix our immigration system....knowing that this tactic works great on partisans like you.

Oh, and ignoring the stats that illegal immigrants have lower crime rates than American citizens do. But who cares about that?

I didn't say anything about 'the migrant in question". What I told you was that if you pull legal employment off the table? Gee, do-ya think that a human would be more likely, or less likely to do very shady things to put food on the table?

You know the answer. You just want to tell me that the Dems are bad. I yep, I get it: the Dems are bad, and the R's are good.

Which explains that this thread is....how many years old? And Republicans aren't even PRETENDING to work on a comprehensive immigration reform bill.

Why? Because they want to keep you angry, and voting Republican, and NEVER holding them accountable.

Keep it up, I guess.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm
by old salt
Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:46 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
You poked fun at Trump’s rape victims.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:50 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
I wonder what our “right” wing didn’t bring this up here:

https://www.wusa9.com/video/news/local/ ... 0c9f2d73de

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:31 pm
by youthathletics
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:50 pm I wonder what our “right” wing didn’t bring this up here:

https://www.wusa9.com/video/news/local/ ... 0c9f2d73de
Do you mean "why" our right wing?

Was she in the US illegally.....have not seen that reported anywhere, but I'm sure you have a friend you recently spoke with that knows. ;) :lol:

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:25 pm
by SCLaxAttack
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:56 pm Yeah, the migrant in question was wanted for murder in El Salvador, so he raped & murdered a mom of 5 here, because he couldn't get a job.

Stupid Dem-lib logic.
I won’t dance around what probably others besides me are thinking. What a bunch of c rap - playing the anectodal rather than empirical card because anyone rebutting you looks bad.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/us/m ... evada.html

Trump’s up 4-1 over Biden. All that winning!!!

Keep up the anecdotes. I’m sure I and others can find more.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?