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a fan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:34 pm B. Thus the claim that Weiss offered Hunter a sweetheart deal. Weiss worked for Barr, initially.
Why didn't he file sooner ? We'll have to wait for his SC report.
Nope. The Forum has played your little game of "wait and see" for seven years.

Remember Durham? He found NOTHING. Did you backtrack? Or apologize? Or change your mind?

F no. You doubled down.

You're supporting a man with 91 felony indictments to lead your party.....yet you can't muster any posts on that.

Yet this is....what, you're 100th post about Hunter Biden? A man who has zero effect on our country?


You're lost, and it's getting worse by the day. When the F are you coming back to port? Your party is in shambles. Focus on that for five minutes.
Pay attention sport. Here's who I'm supporting.
1. Haley 2. DeSantis 3. Manchin

I defend Trump from the TDS Zombies who wander this forum,
when (imo) Trump was right or the TDS Zombies are wrong.

I point out Trump's poll & approval ratings as an indicator of
what your fellow citizens are willing to endure to avoid your agenda.

Hunter has zero effect on our country ? :roll:
Our CinC claims he's the smartest person he knows.
He's speaks with him daily. It impacts his already faltering performance.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/09/politics ... index.html
President Joe Biden is confronting the prospect of his son Hunter facing an embarrassing legal ordeal next year amid a host of other political obstacles in a possible rematch with Donald Trump.

The additional criminal charges brought by the Justice Department against Hunter Biden on Thursday, though expected, nonetheless amounted to a reminder of the personal strain the president will face as he gears up for the coming campaign.

Months after a plea agreement for Hunter Biden collapsed in a Delaware courtroom, reality has set in among Biden’s team that his son’s legal problems – and the ensuing revelations about his lifestyle and struggles with addiction – will remain in the news cycle for months to come as the legal process plays out.

Prosecutors’ portrait of Hunter Biden’s unbridled vice – funded, in part, by leveraging the Biden family name – presents a deeply problematic image...
...the unveiling of the special counsel’s second case against Hunter Biden comes at an inopportune moment, as the election year looms and Biden’s vulnerabilities are laid bare. His approval ratings have slumped...

Hunter Biden’s legal drama drags on for the president
There was a time over the summer when Biden and his orbit believed Hunter’s legal ordeal would end with a plea deal and that the family would be able to close a dark chapter and move on.

Those hopes were dashed when the agreement fell apart and, weeks later, a special counsel was appointed to oversee the investigation into the president’s son, opening the prospect of prolonged legal battles overlapping with Biden’s run for reelection.

There is nothing to indicate the president himself plans to distance himself from his son, who resides in California but has on occasion spent time at the White House. Hunter was included in the family’s Thanksgiving gathering on Nantucket last month and was seen on shopping outings in town. He stood next to his father during a Christmas tree lighting on Black Friday.

This week’s tax charges, the second indictment against Hunter Biden this year, include salacious details about how the president’s son was spending money on “drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a personal nature” — all while avoiding paying tax.

Many of the details of Hunter’s reckless spending were already known, detailed in a candid memoir that tracked his journey through addiction. Over the summer, the president and first lady acknowledged for the first time a daughter Hunter fathered while in the grips of addiction.

A political weight
A CNN poll conducted by SSRS in September found a majority of Americans, 61%, say they think that Biden had at least some involvement in Hunter Biden’s business dealings, with 42% saying they think he acted illegally and 18% saying that his actions were unethical but not illegal.

A 55% majority of the public says the president has acted inappropriately regarding the investigation into Hunter Biden over potential crimes, while 44% say that he has acted appropriately.
...his surface-level interactions that overlapped with his son’s business activities continue to provide fuel to his political opponents.

It’s a headache of which House Democrats are well aware. ...many have wished for a clearer strategy against the GOP allegations and how to message on Hunter Biden, a known sensitive topic in the West Wing.
Few issues are more sensitive inside the Biden White House than the president’s son. Only the smallest inner circle of advisers around the president is said to have anything resembling an unvarnished view of how Biden is processing Hunter’s struggles, from his addiction battles to the latest round of legal woes.
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old salt wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:44 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:54 pm You do realize that Mueller was clear about the obstruction, right?
Mueller wasn't clear about anything, ...other than he was no longer competent or credible.
Ok, the Mueller Report was crystal clear.

Simple question, did DJT multiple times publicly say that he wanted to testify in a deposition with the investigation team then refuse to do so?

Did he refuse to turn over requested materials, refuse to answer questions?

If you don't agree that's criminal obstruction, as the Report indicated, what do you call it? defiance?
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old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:47 am
a fan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:34 pm B. Thus the claim that Weiss offered Hunter a sweetheart deal. Weiss worked for Barr, initially.
Why didn't he file sooner ? We'll have to wait for his SC report.
Nope. The Forum has played your little game of "wait and see" for seven years.

Remember Durham? He found NOTHING. Did you backtrack? Or apologize? Or change your mind?

F no. You doubled down.

You're supporting a man with 91 felony indictments to lead your party.....yet you can't muster any posts on that.

Yet this is....what, you're 100th post about Hunter Biden? A man who has zero effect on our country?


You're lost, and it's getting worse by the day. When the F are you coming back to port? Your party is in shambles. Focus on that for five minutes.
Pay attention sport. Here's who I'm supporting.
1. Haley 2. DeSantis 3. Manchin

I defend Trump from the TDS Zombies who wander this forum,
when (imo) Trump was right or the TDS Zombies are wrong.

I point out Trump's poll & approval ratings as an indicator of
what your fellow citizens are willing to endure to avoid your agenda.

Hunter has zero effect on our country ? :roll:
Our CinC claims he's the smartest person he knows.
He's speaks with him daily. It impacts his already faltering performance.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/09/politics ... index.html
President Joe Biden is confronting the prospect of his son Hunter facing an embarrassing legal ordeal next year amid a host of other political obstacles in a possible rematch with Donald Trump.

The additional criminal charges brought by the Justice Department against Hunter Biden on Thursday, though expected, nonetheless amounted to a reminder of the personal strain the president will face as he gears up for the coming campaign.

Months after a plea agreement for Hunter Biden collapsed in a Delaware courtroom, reality has set in among Biden’s team that his son’s legal problems – and the ensuing revelations about his lifestyle and struggles with addiction – will remain in the news cycle for months to come as the legal process plays out.

Prosecutors’ portrait of Hunter Biden’s unbridled vice – funded, in part, by leveraging the Biden family name – presents a deeply problematic image...
...the unveiling of the special counsel’s second case against Hunter Biden comes at an inopportune moment, as the election year looms and Biden’s vulnerabilities are laid bare. His approval ratings have slumped...

Hunter Biden’s legal drama drags on for the president
There was a time over the summer when Biden and his orbit believed Hunter’s legal ordeal would end with a plea deal and that the family would be able to close a dark chapter and move on.

Those hopes were dashed when the agreement fell apart and, weeks later, a special counsel was appointed to oversee the investigation into the president’s son, opening the prospect of prolonged legal battles overlapping with Biden’s run for reelection.

There is nothing to indicate the president himself plans to distance himself from his son, who resides in California but has on occasion spent time at the White House. Hunter was included in the family’s Thanksgiving gathering on Nantucket last month and was seen on shopping outings in town. He stood next to his father during a Christmas tree lighting on Black Friday.

This week’s tax charges, the second indictment against Hunter Biden this year, include salacious details about how the president’s son was spending money on “drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a personal nature” — all while avoiding paying tax.

Many of the details of Hunter’s reckless spending were already known, detailed in a candid memoir that tracked his journey through addiction. Over the summer, the president and first lady acknowledged for the first time a daughter Hunter fathered while in the grips of addiction.

A political weight
A CNN poll conducted by SSRS in September found a majority of Americans, 61%, say they think that Biden had at least some involvement in Hunter Biden’s business dealings, with 42% saying they think he acted illegally and 18% saying that his actions were unethical but not illegal.

A 55% majority of the public says the president has acted inappropriately regarding the investigation into Hunter Biden over potential crimes, while 44% say that he has acted appropriately.
...his surface-level interactions that overlapped with his son’s business activities continue to provide fuel to his political opponents.

It’s a headache of which House Democrats are well aware. ...many have wished for a clearer strategy against the GOP allegations and how to message on Hunter Biden, a known sensitive topic in the West Wing.
Few issues are more sensitive inside the Biden White House than the president’s son. Only the smallest inner circle of advisers around the president is said to have anything resembling an unvarnished view of how Biden is processing Hunter’s struggles, from his addiction battles to the latest round of legal woes.
We've paid attention.
You support Trump over any Dem the Dems actually put forward, including the moderate guy currently in the WH.
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Manchin is a moderate Democrat. Biden may have once been a moderate Senator, but he is hardly a moderate President.
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old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:02 pm Manchin is a moderate Democrat. Biden may have once been a moderate Senator, but he is hardly a moderate President.
Name a lefty policy. Last time I asked, no one could name one.

And before you say "border"....remember that not only did Reagan have a border that was every bit as "open" as it is now?

He granted Amnesty to millions.
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a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:04 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:02 pm Manchin is a moderate Democrat. Biden may have once been a moderate Senator, but he is hardly a moderate President.
Name a lefty policy. Last time I asked, no one could name one.

And before you say "border"....remember that not only did Reagan have a border that was every bit as "open" as it is now?

He granted Amnesty to millions.
Reagan did not have near this volume of illegal entrants. There's a backlog of 3 million asylum cases, & that doesn't include the gotaways & the no shows for their adjudication or deportation orders. Biden canceled the executive action policies that Trump was using as soon as he took office. The cartels saw it as a green light welcome map. Biden's fighting the efforts of states like TX to reduce the flow.

DEI is a priority in every policy & program. One example -- the national shortage of air traffic controllers.

Student loan forgiveness. He wants a national abortion policy.
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old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm Reagan did not have near this volume of illegal entrants. There's a backlog of 3 million asylum cases, & that doesn't include the gotaways & the no shows for their adjudication or deportation orders. Biden canceled the executive action policies that Trump was using as soon as he took office. The cartels saw it as a green light welcome map. Biden's fighting the efforts of states like TX to reduce the flow.
Yeah, it's not a 2023 right wing policy. I'll grant you that.

I said: LEFTY, OS. What you think is lefty is, is: anything even one step to the left of you, and there is no such thing as a moderate policy.

How many unfilled jobs do we have right now, OS?
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm DEI is a priority in every policy & program.
Again: that's mainstream, my man, not lefty. MOST US corporations have policies on this count. It's not 1950 anymore.
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm One example -- the national shortage of air traffic controllers.
:lol: And there's also a massive pilot shortage. You gonna blame that on Biden, or are you going to recognize that one has nothing to do with the other.

DEI in government has been on the books for decades, including under Trump. At BEST this is moderate.
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm Student loan forgiveness.
Which includes workforce training for TrumpNation. i"d call that more stupid than left, but okay....that's one.

old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm He wants a national abortion policy.
A. Even your party is ok with a pretty uniform standard.

B. So what? Are you still telling me you can't tell the difference between a speech and actually doing something?

If speeches and promises were real things? I'd be a Trump fan. You have to actually DO what you're claiming, OS, and not just run your mouth.




....and that's it? That's your idea of a "lefty" POTUS? All this tells the Forum is how far to the right you have become, despite your claims of moderation.

You're entitled to your opinion. You would be HORRIBLY upset with Manchin or any other moderate POTUS. Biden is EASILY moderate, if not center right. See: Ukraine, and keeping Trump's stupid tax cuts for the rich in place.
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a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:17 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm Student loan forgiveness.
Which includes workforce training for TrumpNation. i"d call that more stupid than left, but okay....that's one.
If it was legit training, the student applied themselves, then used it to build a career -- they could pay it off.
The best pilot I ever hired arrived up to his ears in student loan debt from VaTech & Embry Riddle -- BS degree, with flt training curriculum.
We helped him pay them off in 3 years, he then went to the airlines, then came back & replaced me when I retired as Chief Pilot & Director of Operations, & continued building our startup company into a career for him.
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old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:41 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:17 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm Student loan forgiveness.
Which includes workforce training for TrumpNation. i"d call that more stupid than left, but okay....that's one.
If it was legit training, the student applied themselves, then used it to build a career -- they could pay it off.
The best pilot I ever hired arrived up to his ears in student loan debt from VaTech & Embry Riddle -- BS degree, with flt training curriculum.
We helped him pay them off in 3 years, he then went to the airlines, then came back & replaced me when I retired as Chief Pilot & Director of Operations, & continued building our startup company into a career for him.
If we're going to talk about the nuts and bolts of Bidens stupid program.....why the F are we paying off student loans for folks who graduated already, and not, instead, making current and future vocational and college student's education free?

Students starting in 2023 don't get squat from Biden's largesse, and are F'ed. Royally stupid plan.

I'm all for free vocational or college tuition with the exact condition that you gave: that it has a ROI. We're on the same page.

Or, if it doesn't have ROI? Work it off the same way YOU worked off your tuition: public service for x years.
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a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:47 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:41 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:17 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm Student loan forgiveness.
Which includes workforce training for TrumpNation. i"d call that more stupid than left, but okay....that's one.
If it was legit training, the student applied themselves, then used it to build a career -- they could pay it off.
The best pilot I ever hired arrived up to his ears in student loan debt from VaTech & Embry Riddle -- BS degree, with flt training curriculum.
We helped him pay them off in 3 years, he then went to the airlines, then came back & replaced me when I retired as Chief Pilot & Director of Operations, & continued building our startup company into a career for him.
If we're going to talk about the nuts and bolts of Bidens stupid program.....why the F are we paying off student loans for folks who graduated already, and not, instead, making current and future vocational and college student's education free?

Students starting in 2023 don't get squat from Biden's largesse, and are F'ed. Royally stupid plan.

I'm all for free vocational or college tuition with the exact condition that you gave: that it has a ROI. We're on the same page.

Or, if it doesn't have ROI? Work it off the same way YOU worked off your tuition: public service for x years.
So if we're on the same page, why are you being such an argumentative jerk ?

Biden wanted to give blanket loan forgiveness.
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old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:55 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:47 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:41 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:17 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:53 pm Student loan forgiveness.
Which includes workforce training for TrumpNation. i"d call that more stupid than left, but okay....that's one.
If it was legit training, the student applied themselves, then used it to build a career -- they could pay it off.
The best pilot I ever hired arrived up to his ears in student loan debt from VaTech & Embry Riddle -- BS degree, with flt training curriculum.
We helped him pay them off in 3 years, he then went to the airlines, then came back & replaced me when I retired as Chief Pilot & Director of Operations, & continued building our startup company into a career for him.
If we're going to talk about the nuts and bolts of Bidens stupid program.....why the F are we paying off student loans for folks who graduated already, and not, instead, making current and future vocational and college student's education free?

Students starting in 2023 don't get squat from Biden's largesse, and are F'ed. Royally stupid plan.

I'm all for free vocational or college tuition with the exact condition that you gave: that it has a ROI. We're on the same page.

Or, if it doesn't have ROI? Work it off the same way YOU worked off your tuition: public service for x years.
So if we're on the same page, why are you being such an argumentative jerk ?
Because we're not on the same page that Joe is a wild-eyed crazy lib...and that's ridiculous by any metric...what's more, you KNOW that's the case.

And bad policy is bad policy, regardless of left or right.
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old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:55 pm Biden wanted to give blanket loan forgiveness.
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He never wanted blanket loan forgiveness. There were stipulations even on the campaign trail. :roll:
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:55 pm Biden wanted to give blanket loan forgiveness.
He never wanted blanket loan forgiveness. There were stipulations even on the campaign trail. :roll:
Debt & No Degree => https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 867780001/
What was the rqmt for program completion, degree or certificate attainment ?

Bonanza for fraudsters => https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/edu ... 610951007/

What stipulations, other than reported income limitations ?
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a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:17 pm You would be HORRIBLY upset with Manchin or any other moderate POTUS. Biden is EASILY moderate, if not center right. See: Ukraine, and keeping Trump's stupid tax cuts for the rich in place.
There you go again, telling me what I think. I would be tremendously relieved if Manchin was elected.
Same with Haley. She's saying what she needs to get the (R) nomination, but she'd govern as a moderate.

Biden was a go along to get along deal maker as a Senator & VP. Now he caves in to the left because that's his base.

Look at how he's trying to micromanage Israel's war against Hamas, restraining the IDF.
He won't hold out much longer before he caves to the pro-Hamas protesters.

Do you consider his energy & climate policies to be moderate ? All EV by 2035 ? He's nuts.

Biden doesn't care that he's leaving our military at risk & won't do anything to protect them unless/until one of them is killed.
How do you think that impacts recruiting & retention ? He just extended the Ford carrier group again, They've been deployed for>200 days.
For what, to sail in circles in the E Med, watching Biden's buddies in Iran give missiles to their proxies to lob at our troops.
They might as well have sailed home for Xmas. They're no longer a credible deterrent with Biden as CinC.
He has the classic liberal's disregard & contempt for the military. He's sure that he's smarter than them.
We have a Marine Amphib group in the Red Sea, a carrier in the Gulf of Aden, & a carrier in the E Med, all within striking range,
yet we watch Houthi pirates & terrorists shut down global shipping. Instead of taking out their launchers & weapons bunkers,
we swat down their missiles & swarms of mass produced drones with interceptors that are more expensive than the targets they splash.
How's his JCPOA working out ? How many more Iranian missiles & drones can those sanctions $ pay for ?
He led NATO & Ukraine into a costly unwinnable war, with an open ended commitment he can't fulfill.
Ukraine will be an economic basket case & drain on our finances as we have to bankroll their economy & military for at least a decade.
You can't take on an obligation like that, then just walk away when your term is over.
Biden signed us up to bankroll another costly forever war & failed state with no history of anything other than corrupt governance.
This European war should be costing the EU twice as much as it's costing the US. They're no help in the Pacific & just a token presence in the ME.
The French, Brits, Italians & Spanish all have carriers & escort warships. Where are they ?
Bob Gates was right about Biden.
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a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:04 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:02 pm Manchin is a moderate Democrat. Biden may have once been a moderate Senator, but he is hardly a moderate President.
Name a lefty policy. Last time I asked, no one could name one.

And before you say "border"....remember that not only did Reagan have a border that was every bit as "open" as it is now?

He granted Amnesty to millions.
Ramming EVs down Americas throat is pretty lefty my man. In another 20 years those are the only vehicles those lefties will allow me to drive. Ya wanna get into what kinda stoves lefties will allow me to purchase? Ya wanna get into why I won't be able to buy a new natural gas furnace in the near future. Open up your eyes my man. They are insidious and unrelenting in their attempt to tell us how to run our lives. Sooner or later these folks will get you in their sights. Defend them at your own risk. The entire environmental agenda is deeply rooted in far left ideology. You cool with riding your bike every morning to get to work? Now if you wanna expand on lefty policy take a gander at the effing mess on the southern border. The stream of people illegally entering the US is non stop and unrelenting. The leaders of our major FLP cities after thumping their chests about being " sanctuary cities" suddenly had an epiphany. They don't have the resources to manage this influx of new people. I'm just scratching the surface here my man to answer your lefty policy inquiry. Is anything being done by either party to deal with the problem? Simple answer...NOPE.
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old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:55 pm why are you being such an argumentative jerk ?
You're certainly an expert on being an argumentative jerk. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Answering your own question

As for Manchin being better than corrupt Uncle Joe - better do so more research on your new hero. :oops:

He is just another political opportunist - been that his entire career.
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old salt wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:17 pm You would be HORRIBLY upset with Manchin or any other moderate POTUS. Biden is EASILY moderate, if not center right. See: Ukraine, and keeping Trump's stupid tax cuts for the rich in place.
There you go again, telling me what I think. I would be tremendously relieved if Manchin was elected.
Same with Haley. She's saying what she needs to get the (R) nomination, but she'd govern as a moderate.

Biden was a go along to get along deal maker as a Senator & VP. Now he caves in to the left because that's his base.

Look at how he's trying to micromanage Israel's war against Hamas, restraining the IDF.
He won't hold out much longer before he caves to the pro-Hamas protesters.

Do you consider his energy & climate policies to be moderate ? All EV by 2035 ? He's nuts.

Biden doesn't care that he's leaving our military at risk & won't do anything to protect them unless/until one of them is killed.
How do you think that impacts recruiting & retention ? He just extended the Ford carrier group again, They've been deployed for>200 days.
For what, to sail in circles in the E Med, watching Biden's buddies in Iran give missiles to their proxies to lob at our troops.
They might as well have sailed home for Xmas. They're no longer a credible deterrent with Biden as CinC.
He has the classic liberal's disregard & contempt for the military. He's sure that he's smarter than them.
We have a Marine Amphib group in the Red Sea, a carrier in the Gulf of Aden, & a carrier in the E Med, all within striking range,
yet we watch Houthi pirates & terrorists shut down global shipping. Instead of taking out their launchers & weapons bunkers,
we swat down their missiles & swarms of mass produced drones with interceptors that are more expensive than the targets they splash.
How's his JCPOA working out ? How many more Iranian missiles & drones can those sanctions $ pay for ?
He led NATO & Ukraine into a costly unwinnable war, with an open ended commitment he can't fulfill.
Ukraine will be an economic basket case & drain on our finances as we have to bankroll their economy & military for at least a decade.
You can't take on an obligation like that, then just walk away when your term is over.
Biden signed us up to bankroll another costly forever war & failed state with no history of anything other than corrupt governance.
This European war should be costing the EU twice as much as it's costing the US. They're no help in the Pacific & just a token presence in the ME.
The French, Brits, Italians & Spanish all have carriers & escort warships. Where are they ?
Bob Gates was right about Biden.
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old salt wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:17 pm You would be HORRIBLY upset with Manchin or any other moderate POTUS. Biden is EASILY moderate, if not center right. See: Ukraine, and keeping Trump's stupid tax cuts for the rich in place.
There you go again, telling me what I think. I would be tremendously relieved if Manchin was elected.
Same with Haley. She's saying what she needs to get the (R) nomination, but she'd govern as a moderate.
:lol: And you know how Manchin would govern because.....why?
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am Biden was a go along to get along deal maker as a Senator & VP. Now he caves in to the left because that's his base.

Look at how he's trying to micromanage Israel's war against Hamas, restraining the IDF.
:lol: You and every other partisan think that there's no such thing as a moderate.

And you will ALWAYS define a moderate as: polices you like. That's not what moderate means for a right winger, OS.
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am He won't hold out much longer before he caves to the pro-Hamas protesters.
Moderates all across the globe want Israel to stop with the reckless killing of civilians.
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am Do you consider his energy & climate policies to be moderate ? All EV by 2035 ? He's nuts.
Yes. I do. You despise this because you're far right. Why is this so hard to understand?
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am Biden doesn't care that he's leaving our military at risk & won't do anything to protect them unless/until one of them is killed.
:lol: Again, a laughably far right take where you're lashing out at little D's.
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am How do you think that impacts recruiting & retention ? He just extended the Ford carrier group again, They've been deployed for>200 days.
For what, to sail in circles in the E Med, watching Biden's buddies in Iran give missiles to their proxies to lob at our troops.
They might as well have sailed home for Xmas. They're no longer a credible deterrent with Biden as CinC.
He has the classic liberal's disregard & contempt for the military. He's sure that he's smarter than them.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Right. Dems are bad, and hate our troops.

We played this game with Obama. Everything a Dem does is bad. Everything a R does is either awesome, or doesn't merit your criticism.

You and VDH made it 4 full years under Trump without criticizing one single policy.....laughable. Doubly so when Trump's own Generals couldn't tell you what the F his policies were. Yet you ate it up with a spoon.

All your postings tells me is that you're a hardcore Republican who can't call balls and strikes.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:25 am
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:04 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:02 pm Manchin is a moderate Democrat. Biden may have once been a moderate Senator, but he is hardly a moderate President.
Name a lefty policy. Last time I asked, no one could name one.

And before you say "border"....remember that not only did Reagan have a border that was every bit as "open" as it is now?

He granted Amnesty to millions.
Ramming EVs down Americas throat is pretty lefty my man. In another 20 years those are the only vehicles those lefties will allow me to drive. Ya wanna get into what kinda stoves lefties will allow me to purchase? Ya wanna get into why I won't be able to buy a new natural gas furnace in the near future. Open up your eyes my man. They are insidious and unrelenting in their attempt to tell us how to run our lives. Sooner or later these folks will get you in their sights. Defend them at your own risk. The entire environmental agenda is deeply rooted in far left ideology. You cool with riding your bike every morning to get to work? Now if you wanna expand on lefty policy take a gander at the effing mess on the southern border. The stream of people illegally entering the US is non stop and unrelenting. The leaders of our major FLP cities after thumping their chests about being " sanctuary cities" suddenly had an epiphany. They don't have the resources to manage this influx of new people. I'm just scratching the surface here my man to answer your lefty policy inquiry. Is anything being done by either party to deal with the problem? Simple answer...NOPE.
Cradle, take a look at every other 1st world countries energy policy. Read about it.

We are WAAAAY to the right of every single one of them. Have you ever bought gas in the EU.

Meanwhile, how easy is it to take the train to get where you need to go...fast...in most places in Europe?

We've been spending the last 100 years subsidizing gas cars and infrastructure for said gas cars, Cradle.

You just take it for granted, and don't count the trillions of dollars we spent on gas cars instead of spending even a small amount on mass transit.
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Hilarious. Orange Fatso did not even have a policy platform in 2020 and doesn't have one now either - so have to wonder how Saltine even knows what policies he's running on except for the daily rants he gives. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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