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jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:12 am

njbill wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:44 pm Have there been any reports on how Cuomo’s hydroxychloroquine experiment is going? Supposedly, they started administering the drug on Tuesday. It is now Friday. Yes, that is very early, but some of the anecdotal stories from France and elsewhere suggested that the drug had a very quick, almost immediate, impact. So it is a little curious to me that we haven’t heard anything — good, bad, or indifferent — after 4 days.

This is an FDA trial. Normally these don't leak. These are many months long process. The trials being run under FDA auspices will decide when to announce and what to announce. These are independent scientist, that Trump has no control over. Not following the rules will poison these researchers and their reputations. Trump is a temporary fact of life. The scientific community can end their careers.

The FDA has sanctioned compassionate care cases. I think that is all you will see in the near future, and you will likely only hear about them if they are successful and the patient recovers. The compassionate care result is PHI and under law cannot be released without the patient's approval. If patient dies, I don't see it being released. Until you hear something, assume it is not working.

Of course none of this matters to the happy footed Trumpnista.

Cuomo mentioned this study in his remarks today. He didn’t give any specifics other than to say 1100 tests are “being administered.” He said they expect some results “soon.”

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:07 pm On the issue of what GM is doing - it is helping another ventilator manufacturer scale up by using a GM factory to do the production. Not a new ventilator, but an already approved one.

Right, this makes total sense. Who is the company??

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:32 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:38 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:01 am Is anyone surprised that the total # of cases is rising sharply. We were told to expect it as testing catches up. Dr Birx said the test results remain about 86% negative. As total US cases pass 100k, the mortality rate remains < 1.5 % (MSNBC @ 11pm : 1,573 fatalities / 100,993 confirmed cases)

Why is the NYC metro area such a hot spot ? One theory is the volume of intl travelers.
If that's the primary reason, you'd expect the DC metro area to be higher.

Something strange is going on in DC or with the released DC data. It has a high infections per capita and a remarkably low and strangely unchanging number of deaths per capita. Could be statistics, it is a small place and the number of deaths are small. You look at its infections per capita and it is 75% of Washington State, higher than Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut, Colorado, etc. Places with growing serious problems. It could be that it has outsized hospital space for a sub 1 million population. It is strange compared to other states.

What is DC data?

Current data for JHU dashboard for DC metro area (DC+N VA+MD Mont & PG Cos) :
1043 cases, 11 deaths
Looks like data entry is catching up.
Still just a fraction of NYC metro area data.

njbill wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:13 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:12 am

njbill wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:44 pm Have there been any reports on how Cuomo’s hydroxychloroquine experiment is going? Supposedly, they started administering the drug on Tuesday. It is now Friday. Yes, that is very early, but some of the anecdotal stories from France and elsewhere suggested that the drug had a very quick, almost immediate, impact. So it is a little curious to me that we haven’t heard anything — good, bad, or indifferent — after 4 days.

This is an FDA trial. Normally these don't leak. These are many months long process. The trials being run under FDA auspices will decide when to announce and what to announce. These are independent scientist, that Trump has no control over. Not following the rules will poison these researchers and their reputations. Trump is a temporary fact of life. The scientific community can end their careers.

The FDA has sanctioned compassionate care cases. I think that is all you will see in the near future, and you will likely only hear about them if they are successful and the patient recovers. The compassionate care result is PHI and under law cannot be released without the patient's approval. If patient dies, I don't see it being released. Until you hear something, assume it is not working.

Of course none of this matters to the happy footed Trumpnista.

Cuomo mentioned this study in his remarks today. He didn’t give any specifics other than to say 1100 tests are “being administered.” He said they expect some results “soon.”

Was this based on a question, or he just mentioned it? What did his body language say?

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

I said a few weeks ago, I am hoping we can come in at 1% or less. Not sure where you were. I am basing it on the numbers in the world meter calculator. It’s relative to others in that calculation. The number that bothers me is the ratio of deaths to recoveries.

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:16 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:32 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:38 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:01 am Is anyone surprised that the total # of cases is rising sharply. We were told to expect it as testing catches up. Dr Birx said the test results remain about 86% negative. As total US cases pass 100k, the mortality rate remains < 1.5 % (MSNBC @ 11pm : 1,573 fatalities / 100,993 confirmed cases)

Why is the NYC metro area such a hot spot ? One theory is the volume of intl travelers.
If that's the primary reason, you'd expect the DC metro area to be higher.

Something strange is going on in DC or with the released DC data. It has a high infections per capita and a remarkably low and strangely unchanging number of deaths per capita. Could be statistics, it is a small place and the number of deaths are small. You look at its infections per capita and it is 75% of Washington State, higher than Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut, Colorado, etc. Places with growing serious problems. It could be that it has outsized hospital space for a sub 1 million population. It is strange compared to other states.

What is DC data?

Current data for JHU dashboard for DC metro area (DC+N VA+MD Mont & PG Cos) :
1043 cases, 11 deaths
Looks like data entry is catching up.
Still just a fraction of NYC metro area data.

148 infections per 100,000 // 15.6 deaths per million // 1.1 deaths / infection
very similar to NY numbers from 3 days ago.

PS: Just realized I used the DC population only to calculate above numbers. What is the total population for the MD + VA counties you added in??

That would reduce all the number but the deaths / infection. Probably pushes the numbers back to a good comparison for 5 or 6 days.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

Let’s cut to the chase.

Let’s say we take a “mild” season of the common flu ... 15 million infected.

Now, there is solid data that coronavirus is 2.5x as transmissible as the common flu.

Nevertheless, let’s say that the extraordinary measures being taken limit the number of people infected with coronavirus to “just” 1.5 million people.

Let’s say the mortality rate is even lower than what we suspect. Say, “just” 1% (compared to 0.1% for the common flu).

Now, after all that, we have “just” 15,000 deaths from coronavirus, on par with the number of deaths from the common flu. THAT is the hoped-for best case scenario.

Now, despite the coronavirus being far more transmissible than common flu, let’s say we relax measures and allow coronavirus to spread like a mild flu season (15 million people).

Then, with an optimistic 1% mortality rate (remember, could be significantly higher), you’re talking about 150,000 dead Americans. And that’s the optimistic scenario if we let this thing spread like the common flu.

So, we’re probably saving at least 135,000 American lives with all of these extraordinary measures (again, that is the optimistic and rosy estimate). Probably another million lives will be impacted with serious illness.

Are those lives worth everyone’s sacrifice and patience?

I think so.

So stop the whining and eat another serving of hoarded canned soup.

DocBarrister

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

I said a few weeks ago, I am hoping we can come in at 1% or less. Not sure where you were. I am basing it on the numbers in the world meter calculator. It’s relative to others in that calculation. The number that bothers me is the ration of deaths to recoveries.

Eventually :
Recoveries = total cases - deaths

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:32 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

I said a few weeks ago, I am hoping we can come in at 1% or less. Not sure where you were. I am basing it on the numbers in the world meter calculator. It’s relative to others in that calculation. The number that bothers me is the ration of deaths to recoveries.

Eventually :
Recoveries = total cases - deaths

That’s just your opinion. It’s not a fact. It doesn’t seem to be how the medical professionals are calculating it.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:31 pm .

So stop the whining and eat another serving of hoarded canned soup.

DocBarrister

As for the rest of you adult response, which it was.....why add this last part.

Who is "whining" ?

I want to know what will help my family. You and your gated community neighbors.

98% of the comments here are pointless, vile, hateful.....useless. When it comes to solving this problem

cue mdlaxfan

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:35 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:32 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

I said a few weeks ago, I am hoping we can come in at 1% or less. Not sure where you were. I am basing it on the numbers in the world meter calculator. It’s relative to others in that calculation. The number that bothers me is the ration of deaths to recoveries.

Eventually :
Recoveries = total cases - deaths

That’s just your opinion. It’s not a fact. It doesn’t seem to be how the medical professionals are calculating it.

That is interesting. I would have thought the same as OS. I have not noticed such an effect, but I have not been paying attention to recoveries.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:39 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:31 pm .

So stop the whining and eat another serving of hoarded canned soup.

DocBarrister

As for the rest of you adult response, which it was.....why add this last part.

Who is "whining" ?

I want to know what will help my family. You and your gated community neighbors.

98% of the comments here are pointless, vile, hateful.....useless. When it comes to solving this problem

cue mdlaxfan

That statement wasn’t directed solely at you.

“Who is ‘whining’?”

Well, our Whiner in Chief for one. Also, many of his supporters seeking to relax measures.

As for helping your family ... patience, stay home, wash your hands every hour, use hand sanitizer regularly, and practice physical (social) distancing. Do all that and you’re about 95% of the way home.

DocBarrister

Trinity wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:25 pm Southern Gop Governors are staying open and bragging that they are not California. Irony is dead.

Based on total deaths, it looks like the curve is flattening in CA.
MI & LA will soon pass CA if trend continues.

holmes435 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:05 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:07 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am


Yet the very first post by Trinity above is just more of Trump is a drumpf idiocy.

I understand perfectly well why Old Salt and others thinks TDS wrecks people's minds and makes them incapable of rational dialogue. You know why? Because it does.

This thread should be about the disease, cures, updates, information.... What is it instead? Too often a monotonous Trump-bashing wreck of uselessness. If some of your fellow travelers in the anti-Trump Fanlax world would spend more time discussing the virus and less time raising the Trump is drumpf idiocy, I doubt Old Salt would need to raise TDS at all. Look in the mirror, stare back at yourself and if you can't honestly say that you're perfect, then you have a right to judge the person standing beside you.

Sorry, he's the POTUS and is making decisions that impact lives...daily.

We can wish he wasn't in charge and wish he wasn't such a "drumpf" (never used that word before) but that's what we have. No avoiding it.

Very thankfully there are lots and lots on non-idiots and a huge # of actual heroes in this crisis.

But Trump inserts himself, loudly, into every aspect of this.

Trump hasn't inserted himself into every aspect of this. I got these helpful guidelines in the mail the other day. Oh wait...

Yeah, got this little flyer yesterday and the whole family had a good laugh. No Democrats invited to the bill signing, little missives taking credit for the competent work of others, all the while playing political leverage games with the states. There’s no more more loathsome guy in the public square now.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:40 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:35 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:32 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

I said a few weeks ago, I am hoping we can come in at 1% or less. Not sure where you were. I am basing it on the numbers in the world meter calculator. It’s relative to others in that calculation. The number that bothers me is the ration of deaths to recoveries.

Eventually :
Recoveries = total cases - deaths

That’s just your opinion. It’s not a fact. It doesn’t seem to be how the medical professionals are calculating it.

That is interesting. I would have thought the same as OS. I have not noticed such an effect, but I have not been paying attention to recoveries.

I don’t know why it’s not calculate that way. It seems to focus on people that go to the hospital. This is how it shows up in the meter:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I am comparing our recoveries to others countries based on that metric.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:52 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:40 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:35 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:32 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

I said a few weeks ago, I am hoping we can come in at 1% or less. Not sure where you were. I am basing it on the numbers in the world meter calculator. It’s relative to others in that calculation. The number that bothers me is the ration of deaths to recoveries.

Eventually :
Recoveries = total cases - deaths

That’s just your opinion. It’s not a fact. It doesn’t seem to be how the medical professionals are calculating it.

That is interesting. I would have thought the same as OS. I have not noticed such an effect, but I have not been paying attention to recoveries.

I don’t know why it’s not calculate that way. It seems to focus on people that go to the hospital. This is how it shows up in the meter:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I am comparing our recoveries to others countries based on that metric.

I agree with what JHU72 said -- right now the only reliable stat is deaths per capita, given the shortfall in testing.
Even that depends on testing of all deaths, pre or post mortem.

I have thought about this.

Maybe IT IS TIME to stop complaining about Trump’s incompetence and the hundreds of thousands of lives his incompetence is putting at risk.

There are other important things to discuss, like Hillary’s emails and Obama’s tan suit.

DocBarrister

What's your point? That the guy is slime? Yawn........what was it that jhu72 wrote..."water is wet".

Beyond that, how is your comment helping your family? Besides getting a good laugh.

Was there NO information in the mailer that helped? Maybe take issue with the content, not the empty name on the front of the envelope.

I mean, you ARE laughing at the "$ceintest$" at the CDC.....who created the mailer.

you realize this, correct?

(who got the "contract" for all these TV ads, mailers, etc. )

Is it time to follow the money yet

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:55 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:52 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:40 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:35 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:32 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am So Italys death rate is over 10%

Spains is around 8%

France is 6%

US is 1.6%

How can that be when we have this idiot Trump in charge?

Read the last two pages of this thread. The twitter feed from Seacoaster is particularly revealing

Trump Trump Trump Trump............

Last week it was 1.2%. Everyone is hoping it is as low as possible.

so CONfused.....

What information do we trust? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal ... eaths.html 
A new study reports that people who became sick from the coronavirus in the Chinese city where the outbreak began likely had a lower death rate than previously thought.The study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Medicine, calculated that people with coronavirus symptoms in Wuhan, China, had a 1.4 percent likelihood of dying. Some previous estimates have ranged from 2 percent to 3.4 percent. 

I said a few weeks ago, I am hoping we can come in at 1% or less. Not sure where you were. I am basing it on the numbers in the world meter calculator. It’s relative to others in that calculation. The number that bothers me is the ration of deaths to recoveries.

Eventually :
Recoveries = total cases - deaths

That’s just your opinion. It’s not a fact. It doesn’t seem to be how the medical professionals are calculating it.

That is interesting. I would have thought the same as OS. I have not noticed such an effect, but I have not been paying attention to recoveries.

I don’t know why it’s not calculate that way. It seems to focus on people that go to the hospital. This is how it shows up in the meter:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I am comparing our recoveries to others countries based on that metric.

I agree with what JHU72 said -- right now the only reliable stat is deaths per capita, given the shortfall in testing.
Even that depends on testing of all deaths, pre or post mortem.

So when a Covid-19 case results in hospitalization and a person either survives or dies, that isn’t a good statistic? That isn’t a reliable death statistic?

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:10 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:46 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:41 am

Bart wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:35 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:35 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:23 pm Oh dear oh dear can't have this kind of stuff happening

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/18/bre ... dtrial-io/

March 27, 2020 Update 9: BREAKING: French researchers just completed new additional study on 80 patients, results show a combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin to be effective in treating COVID-19 patients. The team found that, by administering hydroxychloroquine combined with azithromycin, they were able to observe an improvement in all cases, except in one patient who arrived with an advanced form, who was over the age of 86, and in whom the evolution was irreversible.

What about iodine tablets ? Used to purify water.....would that work, it dumped tonic water. Being serious

Good question. I would think it would be worth looking into. As an antimalarial when it is changed into elemental iodine in the blood stream it is suggested it has antibacterial, antiviral properties.

I also really wonder how chloroquine is working in this treatment. Asithromycin is an antibiotic that would help with the secondary pheumonia, not the primary. But chloroquine acts by interfering with hemoglobin metabolism in the food vacuole of the parasite resulting in the build up of heme which is toxic. I have no idea why it would play a role in viral replication. I don't care either.........if it works.

Impressive post Bart!

Ha, that would be the first time anyone said that to me, ever. But don't be. A little knowledge and the googles makes one look more important than they actually are.

SO asking questions produces good answers
Thank you Bart for the adult response.

Is it too early for a gin & tonic. (oh....the tonic matters, especially in THIS case )

It's raining outside, I'm in my house with my wife and two 20 year old daughters.........it is never too early for give & tonic. I am preferring Bourbon on this rainy day however.