Re: Johns Hopkins 2020 - pivot
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:23 pm
Enough about abysmal lax. Go Hop Medicine! Make us proud!
-wwm
-wwm
On the plus side, some of us Big Red fans are apparently better at keeping up with the news that some Blue Jay fans ...
It’s my understanding from well-placed anonymous sources that the NCAA has been working overtime all season in order to find a way to stop Cornell’s hockey teams.
Uh, no:
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... mpionshipsMarch 12, 2020 4:07pm
Today, NCAA President Mark Emmert and the Board of Governors canceled the Division I men’s and women’s 2020 basketball tournaments, as well as all remaining winter and spring NCAA championships.
While on the surface this isn't the worst idea I have ever heard and has alot of the right sentiments - one would think Homecoming will be cancelled. 25th of April is 6 weeks from this Saturday- I just don't see a resolution to this that fast. People must fly, take trains and keep fairly longstanding reservations at hotels - I doubt 3 weeks from now someone from the CDC or WHO is going to say - All clear to allow for the logistics. Kids aren't allowed to gather and hold practices. Parents that might attend Homecoming may already have their kids home taking classes on line. Putting aside Petro's lame duck status for a second but if you were him would you risk Epstein playing in such an exhibition? What if seniors do get an extra year of eligibility and someone like Williams or Bernhardt would take it - would you risk a knee in such a game if you were Tillman or Petro? Keep thinking Butchjhu06 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:09 pm Does this mean homecoming is off? If I were Homewood I'd call Maryland, tell them we haven't canceled homecoming yet, if things can get better maybe play an exhibition Hopkins vs terps, let the srs from both schools get to be honored before the game and appreciated by the fans.
I think I must have misunderstood you: I thought you were singling out the Ivies as teams that would not play because of the Ivy decision (now superseded by the NCAA decision), but I now realize that you were likely expressing sympathy for all the teams that would not play, including the Ivies.
True Cornell conspiracy theorists believe the virus was engineered specifically to stop the Big Red hockey teams!DocBarrister wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:05 pm It’s my understanding from well-placed anonymous sources that the NCAA has been working overtime all season in order to find a way to stop Cornell’s hockey teams.
Then came the coronavirus pandemic, and the rest is history, as they say.
Most of us were good at “I guess I can quit posting”WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:42 am Welp. I guess I can quit posting Massey, laf and Krach stats now.
I was thinking 3-10 (laf), 5-8 (Massey), or
6-7 by beating Rutgers followed by a B1G tourney loss 6-8,
or, 6-7, win B1G semi somehow, lose in final, 7-8.
Or, 6-7, win AQ 8-7, then another NC$$ blowout loss, ending at best 8-8.
Doesn’t matter now. It’s over.
Three final assessments:
1) 2-4. That’s it. Final. Wins over winless Towson and an exhilarating OT win over perennial powerhouse Mount.
2) No wins over former peer teams. All ugly big losses. Playoffs? PLAYOFFS? Multiple blowouts in the regular season. Hopkins has to start routinely being competitive again in the regular season if there’s ever going to be any hope for another drive into the quarterfinals and beyond.
3) The 2020 edition of the Johns Hopkins Blue Jays was the absolute worst I have ever seen. I’m sure the guys had heart. But their best was far from the norm and tradition. Lack of fundamentals in most facets of the game. Why?
One key was the loss of personnel. Epstein’s injury. Someone pointed out that the losses of Keogh and Concannon were very critical. Add to that the two self-inflicted losses of Foley and Rapine, and you’ve eliminated four potential starters.
The players do what they can. I’d like to see a new system to help them achieve more.
Make Hopkins Great Again.
2020 was the worst.
Stay safe.
Regards,
Wombat
Obviously it all depends on if players get another year of eligibility—and if they do, which ones come back (some will certainly decide to enter the work force)—but let's say they all do. Grimes and Williams are very similar players. Both big lefties who primarily dodge from the wing. Grimes can play some midfield (where he plays for the U19 team) but IMO you are never ever going to want to take that kid off the field. He belongs at attack. He and Epstein will be a formidable duo for years to come, assuming everyone is healthy by then. And then you've got an embarrassment of riches between Murphy, Angelus, McDermott, Bauer, Zinn, Degnon, Baskin, Chauvette, Concannon if he comes back etc. to fill out that third attack spot and the rest of the midfield. I am also a big fan of incoming freshman Johnathan Peshko. He has a rare combination of size/athleticism and those Canadian box skills, a combo I think translates quite well to today's field game. Offensively the incoming class is extremely deep. So I don't think you need to be a DocB-level optimist to recognize there are some pieces to be excited about on offense. Not as much the case on defense but Scott Smith at least is the real deal and I think there's a few more realistic candidates to help out at SSDM—Ince from McDonogh comes to mind.Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:53 am Well at least Epstein will get a chance to rest and recover.
I wonder if these players will get their year of eligibility back?
Could we see a starting attack next year of Epstein, Grimes, and Williams?
Whatever the story is next year, there were a lot of players who now have 1-2 years of awful play. Are there upgrades coming at ssdm, goal and defense? What transfers would look good for us? Are these great recruits talents specifically suited to petro's coaching or would they transfer to other potential hires?HopFan16 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:27 amObviously it all depends on if players get another year of eligibility—and if they do, which ones come back (some will certainly decide to enter the work force)—but let's say they all do. Grimes and Williams are very similar players. Both big lefties who primarily dodge from the wing. Grimes can play some midfield (where he plays for the U19 team) but IMO you are never ever going to want to take that kid off the field. He belongs at attack. He and Epstein will be a formidable duo for years to come, assuming everyone is healthy by then. And then you've got an embarrassment of riches between Murphy, Angelus, McDermott, Bauer, Zinn, Degnon, Baskin, Chauvette, Concannon if he comes back etc. to fill out that third attack spot and the rest of the midfield. I am also a big fan of incoming freshman Johnathan Peshko. He has a rare combination of size/athleticism and those Canadian box skills, a combo I think translates quite well to today's field game. Offensively the incoming class is extremely deep. So I don't think you need to be a DocB-level optimist to recognize there are some pieces to be excited about on offense. Not as much the case on defense but Scott Smith at least is the real deal and I think there's a few more realistic candidates to help out at SSDM—Ince from McDonogh comes to mind.Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:53 am Well at least Epstein will get a chance to rest and recover.
I wonder if these players will get their year of eligibility back?
Could we see a starting attack next year of Epstein, Grimes, and Williams?
Once Bobby starts coaching them up.......that should curb your enthusiasm51percentcorn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:42 am One would think the NCAA will grant an extra year of eligibility for the Spring Sports. Many variables to oversee - player's post graduation jobs, can they get into or want grad school, money etc. etc. but your proposed line is not out of the realm of possibility
Ms. Baker's job will certainly become a little more challenging over the near future. If the decision is not to renew or negotiate a new contract when do you pull the trigger? Does she understand that this next class that signed NLIs has the potential to help change the trajectory of the program? Three 5 stars , Seven 4 stars what has to happen to keep this class reasonably intact?
If that can be accomplished there seems to be some potential for some offensive talent running around:
Epstein
Degnon
Murphy
Angelus
Grimes
McDermott
Keogh
Zinn
Bauer
If Epstein, Degnon and Zinn get that year back - Keogh would be the only upperclassman in terms of eligibility on that list. That's a nucleus to work with.
I've already stated my overall opinion on 2020 team - they were too thin to absorb the losses of all those players. What was most distressing I think is the appearance of lack of fundamentals as evidenced by clearing, turnovers, penalty minutes, 38% EMO, the sub 50% assisted goals (usually a strength) juxtaposed against the 67% opponent assisted goal rate. Except for face-offs and shots per game (likely dramatically affected by the 3 absolute routs) there is not a single team stat that is in Hopkins favor. Then there's the eye test of absolute horrible execution - especially on defense where it appears Petro held a clinic on ball watching and how to do it.
My own thought is it's time to rip the band aid off either way as soon as possible - extend him or get the first ticket on the coaching carousel (and maybe walk down the hall to the women's team and see what SS is up to.