Voting Rights

[jhu72]

Coke, JP Morgan join Delta in opposing Georgia law. I am guessing this is the tip of a growing iceberg.

[jhu72]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

[MDlaxfan76]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

[jhu72]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

[cradleandshoot]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

If I need a damn 2 by 4 I bet most DIY folks don't give a flying fig about any boycott. They just need the damn 2 by 4.

[jhu72]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

If I need a damn 2 by 4 I bet most DIY folks don't give a flying fig about any boycott. They just need the damn 2 by 4.

YUP, and everywhere there is a Home Depot, there are alternative places to purchase a damn 2 by 4.

[Peter Brown]

So predictable that libs have got the entirety of the Georgia bill wrong, notably the water hysteria. False.

And naturally those libs on Fanlax don’t bother to read up. They jump in head first saying the governor is racist. Everyone is racist, amirite!!

Are these lefty bozos the most predictable bunch ever? Lol.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/31/geor ... /?src=ilaw

[Farfromgeneva]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

If I need a damn 2 by 4 I bet most DIY folks don't give a flying fig about any boycott. They just need the damn 2 by 4.

YUP, and everywhere there is a Home Depot, there are alternative places to purchase a damn 2 by 4.

Atlanta is home to the most fortune 1,000 HQ in the country so keep growing that list, though I suspect a few will be enough. JPM is NY based so not sure why Dimons comments mattered here.

Lowe’s is Mooresville (Charlotte) NC based so you want voting rights or transgender bathrooms?

[runrussellrun]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Hmmmm....so boycotts work..

.....just NOT for J1 visa employers.

why is Jeff bezos such a racists....telling his mostly black slaves in Alabama whats what...............and than, out the other side of his lunacy, claims BLM matter....

insanity.

J1 abuses are about being "human". Boycotting voting rites.....

Still no pointing out that Georgia, for the first time EVER, elected a African American to the US Senate. That is progress, is it not?


instead, willing to bet most of you haven't even bothered to read the actual LAW being discussed......

What "changes" upset you most?

the no answers are telling.

oh, right.......that 5 word question is SO confusing.

[jhu72]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

If I need a damn 2 by 4 I bet most DIY folks don't give a flying fig about any boycott. They just need the damn 2 by 4.

YUP, and everywhere there is a Home Depot, there are alternative places to purchase a damn 2 by 4.

Atlanta is home to the most fortune 1,000 HQ in the country so keep growing that list, though I suspect a few will be enough. JPM is NY based so not sure why Dimons comments mattered here.

Lowe’s is Mooresville (Charlotte) NC based so you want voting rights or transgender bathrooms?

I am aware JPM is NY not Georgia. I think JPM is just the first of what will be a more national list, because clearly the activists have a national problem. No reason to believe it is an either or situation with regard to Lowes. It is also true that Home Depot has a lot of competition besides Lowes.

[Farfromgeneva]

That’s one of my originally points as well. This is happening in like 20 states but Ga is getting all the attention a little bit too late. Kemp is even pushing back on Bastian now

[MDlaxfan76]

That’s one of my originally points as well. This is happening in like 20 states but Ga is getting all the attention a little bit too late. Kemp is even pushing back on Bastian now

Kemp can push back all he wants, but this is going to get worse for him and the old guard in Georgia...and this will indeed spread to backlash in other states as well.

The GOP misread this, and over played their hand...across the country. The Big Lie and all of its repercussions, including Jan 6, makes for an unacceptable excuse for the voter restrictions play by the GOP.

Sounds like the corporate folks had weighed in and had successfully gotten the Georgia law moderated a bit before its passage (eg, got rid of the 'souls to the polls' issue), but were taken aback by the backlash themselves...and have since recognized that they needed to stand more firmly in opposition.

The water in line thing seems to have been the bit that was so egregious and easy to grasp that made the intent of the law so clear to even old white guys...but these are the smart old white guys who run major businesses; they have far greater exposure to consumer trends and values in the nation than do the 'old guard' knuckleheads in the legislatures of the red states.

Most "get it" that things need to change if US democracy actually will prevail over the command economies and political systems most notably represented by the Chinese...either we believe in our democracy being a strategic advantage, and make it work better, or we're doomed.

[Farfromgeneva]

Generally agree though to your point here and mine earlier I think these corporate folks are only going to speak up after they see how the wind blows.

[Farfromgeneva]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

If I need a damn 2 by 4 I bet most DIY folks don't give a flying fig about any boycott. They just need the damn 2 by 4.

YUP, and everywhere there is a Home Depot, there are alternative places to purchase a damn 2 by 4.

Atlanta is home to the most fortune 1,000 HQ in the country so keep growing that list, though I suspect a few will be enough. JPM is NY based so not sure why Dimons comments mattered here.

Lowe’s is Mooresville (Charlotte) NC based so you want voting rights or transgender bathrooms?

I am aware JPM is NY not Georgia. I think JPM is just the first of what will be a more national list, because clearly the activists have a national problem. No reason to believe it is an either or situation with regard to Lowes. It is also true that Home Depot has a lot of competition besides Lowes.

Missed the second part but the two do have a commanding market share. You’re suggestion is like complaining about Main Street retailers while shopping at Walmart. Good luck.

[cradleandshoot]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

If I need a damn 2 by 4 I bet most DIY folks don't give a flying fig about any boycott. They just need the damn 2 by 4.

YUP, and everywhere there is a Home Depot, there are alternative places to purchase a damn 2 by 4.

Not around my house there is. The Depot is 5 minutes from my house. It is not my favorite place necessarily but the convenience can't be denied. If folks want to boycott them they can count me out. I don't support boycotts against any business.

[MDlaxfan76]

Generally agree though to your point here and mine earlier I think these corporate folks are only going to speak up after they see how the wind blows.

Yup, and they're starting to see the wind blow...

[Farfromgeneva]

Georgia boycotts not necessary yet, says Stacy Abrams.

Abrams then outlined suggestions for Georgia companies to take substantive action to promote voting rights, including encouraging corporations that do businesses in other states considering similar laws to speak out before they are passed.

The voting rights activist also urged corporations to use their voices to support federal voting rights legislation, as well as allocate money they would normally donate to political candidates to instead help ensure poor and minority communities have access to voting in Georgia.

Seems to me that the immediate goal should be to reverse some of the aspects of the bill that actually restrict voter access in ways that have no real benefit otherwise. However, the more significant outcome may actually be to marshal more resources for voter registration and engagement efforts, support for candidates advocating for voting rights, more equitable wealth opportunities, "justice" etc versus the "old boy" candidates that may have previously been favored.

Tactically, it would not be surprising to see a boycott against one or more corps that prove intransigent, while embracing those who want to be "allies". Where's Home Depot on this? EDIT: they gave a statement, but has their CEO gone on the line? UPS? They'll all need to step up harder than just words.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... entnewsntp

... the voting rights activist got off to a late start. They should have been at this point a month ago. I think there is still a little time before targeted boycotts need to be put in place. If Home Depot doesn't get in line and become an ally, they make a perfect target for a national boycott. I think that is part of Abrams' concern. It would hit a lot of people who are supportive of the cause - workers. There are some calling for a boycott to begin this weekend I think.

If I need a damn 2 by 4 I bet most DIY folks don't give a flying fig about any boycott. They just need the damn 2 by 4.

YUP, and everywhere there is a Home Depot, there are alternative places to purchase a damn 2 by 4.

Not around my house there is. The Depot is 5 minutes from my house. It is not my favorite place necessarily but the convenience can't be denied. If folks want to boycott them they can count me out. I don't support boycotts against any business.

The suggestion that there are good universal home improvement options much outside the top 50 msa’s is probably not a reasonable suggestion but I didn’t want to turn it into a “you coastal city elites” or whatever but almost all the independent hardware stores in Broome co NY have blown away and even the local mall in Johnson City is on the cusp of default on its debt.

[Farfromgeneva]

Generally agree though to your point here and mine earlier I think these corporate folks are only going to speak up after they see how the wind blows.

Yup, and they're starting to see the wind blow...

The old Michael Jordan quote constantly comes to mind in situations when we expect Corp leaders to strip up:

“Republicans buy shoes too”

[jhu72]

That’s one of my originally points as well. This is happening in like 20 states but Ga is getting all the attention a little bit too late. Kemp is even pushing back on Bastian now

Kemp can push back all he wants, but this is going to get worse for him and the old guard in Georgia...and this will indeed spread to backlash in other states as well.

The GOP misread this, and over played their hand...across the country. The Big Lie and all of its repercussions, including Jan 6, makes for an unacceptable excuse for the voter restrictions play by the GOP.

Sounds like the corporate folks had weighed in and had successfully gotten the Georgia law moderated a bit before its passage (eg, got rid of the 'souls to the polls' issue), but were taken aback by the backlash themselves...and have since recognized that they needed to stand more firmly in opposition.

The water in line thing seems to have been the bit that was so egregious and easy to grasp that made the intent of the law so clear to even old white guys...but these are the smart old white guys who run major businesses; they have far greater exposure to consumer trends and values in the nation than do the 'old guard' knuckleheads in the legislatures of the red states.

Most "get it" that things need to change if US democracy actually will prevail over the command economies and political systems most notably represented by the Chinese...either we believe in our democracy being a strategic advantage, and make it work better, or we're doomed.

+1 Most people don't understand, capitalism and liberal democracy are not the same thing, but they do walk hand in hand in the most effective implementation.

[MDlaxfan76]

That’s one of my originally points as well. This is happening in like 20 states but Ga is getting all the attention a little bit too late. Kemp is even pushing back on Bastian now

Kemp can push back all he wants, but this is going to get worse for him and the old guard in Georgia...and this will indeed spread to backlash in other states as well.

The GOP misread this, and over played their hand...across the country. The Big Lie and all of its repercussions, including Jan 6, makes for an unacceptable excuse for the voter restrictions play by the GOP.

Sounds like the corporate folks had weighed in and had successfully gotten the Georgia law moderated a bit before its passage (eg, got rid of the 'souls to the polls' issue), but were taken aback by the backlash themselves...and have since recognized that they needed to stand more firmly in opposition.

The water in line thing seems to have been the bit that was so egregious and easy to grasp that made the intent of the law so clear to even old white guys...but these are the smart old white guys who run major businesses; they have far greater exposure to consumer trends and values in the nation than do the 'old guard' knuckleheads in the legislatures of the red states.

Most "get it" that things need to change if US democracy actually will prevail over the command economies and political systems most notably represented by the Chinese...either we believe in our democracy being a strategic advantage, and make it work better, or we're doomed.

+1 Most people don't understand, capitalism and liberal democracy are not the same thing, but they do walk hand in hand in the most effective implementation.

Well...let's at least hope that we can prove that to be true in the coming era.

IMO, we need to double down on "democracy" and at the same time re-focus our national thinking to longer term desired outcomes.