Some interesting articles that will provide background to the current conflict (articles appearing in Haaretz, Israel's oldest newspaper, in recent days):
It is time very well spent listening to the audio file of Amos Harel and Muhammed Shehada embedded in the last article above.
Note: if you run into paywall, you only need provide your email address -- no charge for reading these articles.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 12:21 pm
by PizzaSnake
Knew some people whose older siblings were JDL terrorists in CA in the '70s and '80s. Didn't much care for their lack of patriotism and self-righteousness. All need to be locked up with the other scofflaws and fifth columnists.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:24 am
by jhu72
"Biden tells Netanyahu he expects 'a significant de-escalation today' with path toward cease-fire" USA Today.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:49 am
by PizzaSnake
jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 10:24 am
"Biden tells Netanyahu he expects 'a significant de-escalation today' with path toward cease-fire" USA Today.
Maybe Nety-yoyo will pivot to Putie? Could be a problem integrating the Russian materiel with the US product.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 2:33 pm
by jhu72
"We informed all parties that we would accept a mutual ceasefire between Israel and Hamas with two conditions," Dr. Basem Naim, a former Palestinian health minister who is now head of Hamas' international relations council, told ABC News on Tuesday evening. "One, Israeli forces must stop incursions into the Al-Asqa compound and respect the site. Two, Israel must stop the forced evacuation of the Palestinian residents in the Sheikh Jarah neighborhood. This condition is in accordance with international law, not only a condition expected by the Hamas authority."
... Israel will look more and more to the international community, including the US, like WHAT IT IS BECOMING if they ignore this offer.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:55 pm
by PizzaSnake
Looks like a big f-you from Netanyahoo.
“I especially appreciate the support of US President Joe Biden, for the right to self-defense for the State of Israel,” tweeted Netanyahu. “I am determined to continue this operation until its goal is achieved, to restore peace and security to you, the citizens of Israel.”
I guess after years of getting tongued by Trump and his minions he's grown to expect a certain level of obeisance.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:03 pm
by jhu72
1. don't give these thugs cover on the coming UN condemnation.
2. stop the arms sale.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 7:43 am
by jhu72
The conflict ended, but the how we are hearing in the US is different from the how it is being understood in Israel. Biden ended the conflict.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 9:05 am
by kramerica.inc
jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 4:03 pm
1. don't give these thugs cover on the coming UN condemnation.
2. stop the arms sale.
Dont stop the arms sale. Just make sure they go to the highest bidder.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 9:10 am
by youthathletics
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:55 pm
Looks like a big f-you from Netanyahoo.
“I especially appreciate the support of US President Joe Biden, for the right to self-defense for the State of Israel,” tweeted Netanyahu. “I am determined to continue this operation until its goal is achieved, to restore peace and security to you, the citizens of Israel.”
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:55 pm
Looks like a big f-you from Netanyahoo.
“I especially appreciate the support of US President Joe Biden, for the right to self-defense for the State of Israel,” tweeted Netanyahu. “I am determined to continue this operation until its goal is achieved, to restore peace and security to you, the citizens of Israel.”
I guess after years of getting tongued by Trump and his minions he's grown to expect a certain level of obeisance.
I am confused, what are you arguing here?
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 11:35 am
by jhu72
njbill wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 10:45 am
Wait, I thought Jared brought peace to the Middle East. Did I miss something?
The funny thing is, during this latest conflict, I know of no journalist who asked JK for a comment. You would think someone would have asked the author of peace in the Middle East for a comment.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 11:49 am
by njbill
Jared is probably trying to keep his mouth shut so he doesn’t screw up his chances for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 11:53 am
by PizzaSnake
njbill wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:49 am
Jared is probably trying to keep his mouth shut so he doesn’t screw up his chances for the Nobel Peace Prize.
njbill wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 10:45 am
Wait, I thought Jared brought peace to the Middle East. Did I miss something?
The funny thing is, during this latest conflict, I know of no journalist who asked JK for a comment. You would think someone would have asked the author of peace in the Middle East for a comment.
They are probably afraid of what they will learn....optics are everything, we all know that.
Watch and listen very carefully to the words of the speaker on ''The 70th Palestinian Nakba Day – The Jewish perspective'' as his teachings are based on actual biblical teaching.
Re: Israel and Zionism
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 2:38 pm
by Brooklyn
Shaima Abu al Ouf, a young dental student in Gaza was killed by an Israeli air strike along with 13 more members of her family. She died one month before her wedding. It was reported that there was a smile on her face as she was buried.
The funny thing is, during this latest conflict, I know of no journalist who asked JK for a comment. You would think someone would have asked the author of peace in the Middle East for a comment. 