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PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:24 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:46 am

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:38 pm I predict blue balls for Ellie.

“The outlet further reported that Musk planned to start charging for Twitter “blue check mark” verification by next week.”

Yep, Elon is selling "free speech" for $8 per month. He should rebrand it. Musk speech. Trump would, it will be Trump speech soon and we will have 10s of millions of morons who will buy it.

... now for a lesson in reality. Twitter must charge a subscription fee in order to make any money, to stay in business. Musk is not a fool. Advertisers are already bolting. Many if not most won't be coming back. GM is not going to re-up, they are not going to spend money funding their competitor.

In as much as the "social media" seems a derivative of the pamphlets of the political ecosystem of the pre-Revolutonary colonies, they are probably inevitable and of some social utility. Twitter, and other cesspools, are too subject to manipulation and should probably die. Pamphlets required a fair amount of effort and expense, which winnowed out a lot of the trivial and inane. "Free" mechanisms (not really free but that is another discussion) for social interaction quickly devolve to the lowest common denominator. While interesting for academics as a measure of the cultural zeitgeist and as a barometer of political trends, I see no further utility that would explain the enormous expenditure of capital, both monetary and human required to sustain them. They are like giant, bloated ticks feeding on the body politic. Pop them.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:51 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:56 am

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:32 am A common occurrence when new leadership comes in. Get rid of the dead wood.

And despite the projections from the left about losing a "safe space," and as Brookie's post illustrates, not much has really changed at Twitter.

Another:

Twitter re-bans white nationalist Nick Fuentes after he makes new account.

Twitter also suspended far-right radio host Stew Peters again on Friday after he tried to return to the platform.

"Twitter’s policies haven’t changed. Hateful conduct has no place here. And we’re taking steps to put a stop to an organized effort to make people think we have," Yoel Roth, Twitter's head of safety and integrity, said in a tweet Sunday.

"Over the last 48 hours, we’ve seen a small number of accounts post a ton of Tweets that include slurs and other derogatory terms. To give you a sense of scale: More than 50,000 Tweets repeatedly using a particular slur came from just 300 accounts," he added.

"Nearly all of these accounts are inauthentic. We’ve banned the users involved in this trolling campaign — and are going to continue working to address this in the days to come to make Twitter safe and welcoming for everyone."

https://www.axios.com/2022/10/30/twitte ... ew-account

How long will Yoel Roth keep his job?
Would him getting the axe change your view of what is or is not "dead wood"?

I don't know.

No. Dead wood can manifest itself a lot of different ways. And execs are more than one decision they make. They have a trickle down effect on the workplace, their direct reports, their non-reports, and the company image.

One exec at our company saw himself as a good guy. Didnt realize that his shadow, and career (even prior to our company), and general demeanor and decisions hurt morale at the office. It hurt how the company as a whole was viewed, and the ability to win new work and accounts. The best thing that ever happened was the owner realizing it and "suggesting" he retire. ASAP.

Office life changed post pandemic. And it's shifting once again. Return to the workplace is real. Execs want the offices/cubes they are paying for used. It's been my general observation that the ones who are adamant about not coming in, ever, are the ones who ARE dead wood. Work CAN be accomplished at home. But the reality is - a surefire way to be viewed as dead wood by execs is to NEVER show your face and fight the times your boss asks you to appear. You can't build a team or be a part of a team if you're not with the team.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:54 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

Yeah, I understand why folks get worried about the kind of potential power Gates has through his enormous business success. But he certainly seems to have invested back in ways that support the public good, quite specifically. With enormous positive impact.

Maybe Musk will commit to the same with his wealth at some point. He hasn't done so as yet.

What is concerning, right now about Musk, is that he's tacked very hard to an area of business that is unlikely to respond well to his talents with at least the signals of doing enormous public harm...for profit.

You may not 'trust' what you have no evidence or basis to be concerned about re Gates, but Musk is a clear and present danger.

Let's hope he acts responsibly or that markets and perhaps government will rein in the damage.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:54 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

Yeah, I understand why folks get worried about the kind of potential power Gates has through his enormous business success. But he certainly seems to have invested back in ways that support the public good, quite specifically. With enormous positive impact.

Maybe Musk will commit to the same with his wealth at some point. He hasn't done so as yet.

What is concerning, right now about Musk, is that he's tacked very hard to an area of business that is unlikely to respond well to his talents with at least the signals of doing enormous public harm...for profit.

You may not 'trust' what you have no evidence or basis to be concerned about re Gates, but Musk is a clear and present danger.

Let's hope he acts responsibly or that markets and perhaps government will rein in the damage.

Confused....what are you afraid of; what has Musk done that gives you pause that his intentions are bad?

Not withstanding, the guy has advanced tech to space faster than NASA and any other country, Neuralink stands to help millions of people if the bio-tech provides fruit.

And the sentiment is that he is a bad man....I just do not see how the dots get connected there.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:29 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:54 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

Yeah, I understand why folks get worried about the kind of potential power Gates has through his enormous business success. But he certainly seems to have invested back in ways that support the public good, quite specifically. With enormous positive impact.

Maybe Musk will commit to the same with his wealth at some point. He hasn't done so as yet.

What is concerning, right now about Musk, is that he's tacked very hard to an area of business that is unlikely to respond well to his talents with at least the signals of doing enormous public harm...for profit.

You may not 'trust' what you have no evidence or basis to be concerned about re Gates, but Musk is a clear and present danger.

Let's hope he acts responsibly or that markets and perhaps government will rein in the damage.

Confused....what are you afraid of; what has Musk done that gives you pause that his intentions are bad?

Not withstanding, the guy has advanced tech to space faster than NASA and any other country, Neuralink stands to help millions of people if the bio-tech provides fruit.

And the sentiment is that he is a bad man....I just do not see how the dots get connected there.

If you read my commentary, I don't say he's a bad man, just that his entrepreneurship and genius don't guarantee that he's a good man, or that he really cares about anyone beyond himself (and those who don't argue with him).

I think we can separate the acts that are indeed innovations to the public good (and I generally credit heavily the value of innovation!) and acts that are really not.

I described in detail why I think what he says he's going to do with Twitter...and his own personal actions in this arena...smell to me of enormous hubris and ego, not a passion for the public good. And certainly no expressed concern about the damage the 'speech' he says he wants to allow can do to real people.

Are these "bad intentions"? I'm not so sure he has the moral compass to distinguish. It may be that he has understood that there are markets for the products he has engineered, the technologies that he has invested in...profit and ego being the drivers, not public good per se...and so public damage may well not be a concern...unless markets or government respond in ways that prevent or eliminate that profit and ego achievement...then he'll adjust, one would think. He's a smart guy.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:03 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:51 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:56 am

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:32 am A common occurrence when new leadership comes in. Get rid of the dead wood.

And despite the projections from the left about losing a "safe space," and as Brookie's post illustrates, not much has really changed at Twitter.

Another:

Twitter re-bans white nationalist Nick Fuentes after he makes new account.

Twitter also suspended far-right radio host Stew Peters again on Friday after he tried to return to the platform.

"Twitter’s policies haven’t changed. Hateful conduct has no place here. And we’re taking steps to put a stop to an organized effort to make people think we have," Yoel Roth, Twitter's head of safety and integrity, said in a tweet Sunday.

"Over the last 48 hours, we’ve seen a small number of accounts post a ton of Tweets that include slurs and other derogatory terms. To give you a sense of scale: More than 50,000 Tweets repeatedly using a particular slur came from just 300 accounts," he added.

"Nearly all of these accounts are inauthentic. We’ve banned the users involved in this trolling campaign — and are going to continue working to address this in the days to come to make Twitter safe and welcoming for everyone."

https://www.axios.com/2022/10/30/twitte ... ew-account

How long will Yoel Roth keep his job?
Would him getting the axe change your view of what is or is not "dead wood"?

I don't know.

No. Dead wood can manifest itself a lot of different ways. And execs are more than one decision they make. They have a trickle down effect on the workplace, their direct reports, their non-reports, and the company image.

One exec at our company saw himself as a good guy. Didnt realize that his shadow, and career (even prior to our company), and general demeanor and decisions hurt morale at the office. It hurt how the company as a whole was viewed, and the ability to win new work and accounts. The best thing that ever happened was the owner realizing it and "suggesting" he retire. ASAP.

Office life changed post pandemic. And it's shifting once again. Return to the workplace is real. Execs want the offices/cubes they are paying for used. It's been my general observation that the ones who are adamant about not coming in, ever, are the ones who ARE dead wood. Work CAN be accomplished at home. But the reality is - a surefire way to be viewed as dead wood by execs is to NEVER show your face and fight the times your boss asks you to appear. You can't build a team or be a part of a team if you're not with the team.

Perhaps you are misunderstanding.

There's no possible way that Musk could know who is 'dead wood' at Twitter and who is not based on his knowledge of their individual performance. Perhaps he could a year from now, with a heck of a lot of effort, but no way after two weeks.

What he undoubtedly is doing instead is cutting entire departments and/or based on longevity and/or based on known beliefs about the importance of content moderation. (coming into the office is just a cover; btw, do you think any of the Twitter folks would object to coming in some days?..hybrid?).

So, if this particular guy is cut, it won't be because he hadn't been a successful employee or that Musk has had an opportunity to actually assess his work nor that he doesn't want to come to the office but rather a decision to get rid of those who think content moderation is important.

Maybe he won't get cut...will his department be decimated?

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:47 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:29 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:54 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

Yeah, I understand why folks get worried about the kind of potential power Gates has through his enormous business success. But he certainly seems to have invested back in ways that support the public good, quite specifically. With enormous positive impact.

Maybe Musk will commit to the same with his wealth at some point. He hasn't done so as yet.

What is concerning, right now about Musk, is that he's tacked very hard to an area of business that is unlikely to respond well to his talents with at least the signals of doing enormous public harm...for profit.

You may not 'trust' what you have no evidence or basis to be concerned about re Gates, but Musk is a clear and present danger.

Let's hope he acts responsibly or that markets and perhaps government will rein in the damage.

Confused....what are you afraid of; what has Musk done that gives you pause that his intentions are bad?

Not withstanding, the guy has advanced tech to space faster than NASA and any other country, Neuralink stands to help millions of people if the bio-tech provides fruit.

And the sentiment is that he is a bad man....I just do not see how the dots get connected there.

If you read my commentary, I don't say he's a bad man, just that his entrepreneurship and genius don't guarantee that he's a good man, or that he really cares about anyone beyond himself (and those who don't argue with him).

I think we can separate the acts that are indeed innovations to the public good (and I generally credit heavily the value of innovation!) and acts that are really not.

I described in detail why I think what he says he's going to do with Twitter...and his own personal actions in this arena...smell to me of enormous hubris and ego, not a passion for the public good. And certainly no expressed concern about the damage the 'speech' he says he wants to allow can do to real people.

Are these "bad intentions"? I'm not so sure he has the moral compass to distinguish. It may be that he has understood that there are markets for the products he has engineered, the technologies that he has invested in...profit and ego being the drivers, not public good per se...and so public damage may well not be a concern...unless markets or government respond in ways that prevent or eliminate that profit and ego achievement...then he'll adjust, one would think. He's a smart guy.

Thanks... so you are judging him on how he thinks on the inside, and what he might do....got it.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:48 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:03 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:51 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:56 am

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:32 am A common occurrence when new leadership comes in. Get rid of the dead wood.

And despite the projections from the left about losing a "safe space," and as Brookie's post illustrates, not much has really changed at Twitter.

Another:

Twitter re-bans white nationalist Nick Fuentes after he makes new account.

Twitter also suspended far-right radio host Stew Peters again on Friday after he tried to return to the platform.

"Twitter’s policies haven’t changed. Hateful conduct has no place here. And we’re taking steps to put a stop to an organized effort to make people think we have," Yoel Roth, Twitter's head of safety and integrity, said in a tweet Sunday.

"Over the last 48 hours, we’ve seen a small number of accounts post a ton of Tweets that include slurs and other derogatory terms. To give you a sense of scale: More than 50,000 Tweets repeatedly using a particular slur came from just 300 accounts," he added.

"Nearly all of these accounts are inauthentic. We’ve banned the users involved in this trolling campaign — and are going to continue working to address this in the days to come to make Twitter safe and welcoming for everyone."

https://www.axios.com/2022/10/30/twitte ... ew-account

How long will Yoel Roth keep his job?
Would him getting the axe change your view of what is or is not "dead wood"?

I don't know.

No. Dead wood can manifest itself a lot of different ways. And execs are more than one decision they make. They have a trickle down effect on the workplace, their direct reports, their non-reports, and the company image.

One exec at our company saw himself as a good guy. Didnt realize that his shadow, and career (even prior to our company), and general demeanor and decisions hurt morale at the office. It hurt how the company as a whole was viewed, and the ability to win new work and accounts. The best thing that ever happened was the owner realizing it and "suggesting" he retire. ASAP.

Office life changed post pandemic. And it's shifting once again. Return to the workplace is real. Execs want the offices/cubes they are paying for used. It's been my general observation that the ones who are adamant about not coming in, ever, are the ones who ARE dead wood. Work CAN be accomplished at home. But the reality is - a surefire way to be viewed as dead wood by execs is to NEVER show your face and fight the times your boss asks you to appear. You can't build a team or be a part of a team if you're not with the team.

Perhaps you are misunderstanding.

There's no possible way that Musk could know who is 'dead wood' at Twitter and who is not based on his knowledge of their individual performance. Perhaps he could a year from now, with a heck of a lot of effort, but no way after two weeks.

What he undoubtedly is doing instead is cutting entire departments and/or based on longevity and/or based on known beliefs about the importance of content moderation. (coming into the office is just a cover; btw, do you think any of the Twitter folks would object to coming in some days?..hybrid?).

So, if this particular guy is cut, it won't be because he hadn't been a successful employee or that Musk has had an opportunity to actually assess his work nor that he doesn't want to come to the office but rather a decision to get rid of those who think content moderation is important.

Maybe he won't get cut...will his department be decimated?

Never equate entrepreneurial ability or genius with morality. Just like academic success doesn't mean goodness either.

This is a risk of being an exec (or rank and file) in ANY company. New owners come in and "go in different direction" all the time.

One copmpany I worked for cut our 2-man team that developed, updated, and ran our company's custom ILS in favor of a cheaper, COTS ILS. It was a miserable idea and the cause of lots of headaches. In the long run and in hindsight it would have been better and ultimately cheaper to keep what we had. But the decision was made. And the new ownership had to deal with it. It wasn't enough to make the company fail, but it resulted in loss of profits, lowered morale, and ultimately loss of other employees.

Musk will get the credit or blame depending on how the company proceeds.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:57 pm

There's no possible way that Musk could know who is 'dead wood' at Twitter and who is not based on his knowledge of their individual performance. Perhaps he could a year from now, with a heck of a lot of effort, but no way after two weeks.

What he undoubtedly is doing instead is cutting entire departments and/or based on longevity and/or based on known beliefs about the importance of content moderation. (coming into the office is just a cover; btw, do you think any of the Twitter folks would object to coming in some days?..hybrid?).

So, if this particular guy is cut, it won't be because he hadn't been a successful employee or that Musk has had an opportunity to actually assess his work nor that he doesn't want to come to the office but rather a decision to get rid of those who think content moderation is important.

Maybe he won't get cut...will his department be decimated?

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:54 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

Yeah, I understand why folks get worried about the kind of potential power Gates has through his enormous business success. But he certainly seems to have invested back in ways that support the public good, quite specifically. With enormous positive impact.

Maybe Musk will commit to the same with his wealth at some point. He hasn't done so as yet.

What is concerning, right now about Musk, is that he's tacked very hard to an area of business that is unlikely to respond well to his talents with at least the signals of doing enormous public harm...for profit.

You may not 'trust' what you have no evidence or basis to be concerned about re Gates, but Musk is a clear and present danger.

Let's hope he acts responsibly or that markets and perhaps government will rein in the damage.

Confused....what are you afraid of; what has Musk done that gives you pause that his intentions are bad?

Not withstanding, the guy has advanced tech to space faster than NASA and any other country, Neuralink stands to help millions of people if the bio-tech provides fruit.

And the sentiment is that he is a bad man....I just do not see how the dots get connected there.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:02 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:57 pm

There's no possible way that Musk could know who is 'dead wood' at Twitter and who is not based on his knowledge of their individual performance. Perhaps he could a year from now, with a heck of a lot of effort, but no way after two weeks.

What he undoubtedly is doing instead is cutting entire departments and/or based on longevity and/or based on known beliefs about the importance of content moderation. (coming into the office is just a cover; btw, do you think any of the Twitter folks would object to coming in some days?..hybrid?).

So, if this particular guy is cut, it won't be because he hadn't been a successful employee or that Musk has had an opportunity to actually assess his work nor that he doesn't want to come to the office but rather a decision to get rid of those who think content moderation is important.

Maybe he won't get cut...will his department be decimated?

Don't be so certain. Dorsey and Musk are boys:

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-mu ... ter-2022-9

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/01/tech/twi ... index.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jack-dor ... 15755.html

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:39 pm Sounds like a a great sell on the man. You can be sure when liberals put others down, it's b/c they see much the same in themselves.

Pizza Snake wrote
Why would anyone vote for that (regarding DJT)?

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:02 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:39 pm Sounds like a a great sell on the man. You can be sure when liberals put others down, it's b/c they see much the same in themselves.

When you don't have a credible argument invoke "liberals" labeling people with whom you disagree with some sort of pejorative - like you know any detail about others here. I thought you better than this.



No doubt Musk is a very smart man. In other ways, he leaves a lot to be desired to some people (and not all of them are "liberals")

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:55 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:54 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

Yeah, I understand why folks get worried about the kind of potential power Gates has through his enormous business success. But he certainly seems to have invested back in ways that support the public good, quite specifically. With enormous positive impact.

Maybe Musk will commit to the same with his wealth at some point. He hasn't done so as yet.

What is concerning, right now about Musk, is that he's tacked very hard to an area of business that is unlikely to respond well to his talents with at least the signals of doing enormous public harm...for profit.

You may not 'trust' what you have no evidence or basis to be concerned about re Gates, but Musk is a clear and present danger.

Let's hope he acts responsibly or that markets and perhaps government will rein in the damage.

Confused....what are you afraid of; what has Musk done that gives you pause that his intentions are bad?

Not withstanding, the guy has advanced tech to space faster than NASA and any other country, Neuralink stands to help millions of people if the bio-tech provides fruit.

And the sentiment is that he is a bad man....I just do not see how the dots get connected there.

"With tremendous power comes tremendous responsibility."

In some cases, intent is irrelevant. Thus far, Elon has not demonstrated a sober, considered affect. We can dispute whether or not that is determinative when running car companies, rocket companies, or boring companies, but when he moves into positions that have such a consequential (I hate the use of "impactful") outcomes, his qualifications need to be scrutinized very closely.

I have, and I find him wanting. He is impetuous and careless, if not outright dishonest (little matter of his claim to have financing to take Tesla public). Talking shite down a the bar with your friends or on a lax forum is one thing; causing wild market perturbations with demonstrably false assertions is another. He is at best immature, at worst malign. Either way, too risky to be entrusted with great power.

The reasons for minimum ages for elected office are obvious. First is assurance that the person has a good chance of being mature. The second is so that they have built up a "track record" of behavior for voters to use to adjudge their fitness for office. There is a reason that the relatively callow are allowed to stand for low level, relatively powerless positions, but "higher" offices have different age limits. When I read certain comments I wonder what the hlel was taught in certain school systems. Or whether people even attended high school.

P.S. How'd that work with dRumper? He was a disaster as a human as well as a pathetic businessman for his whole life. Why would anyone ever vote for that? And, unsurprisingly, he was underwhelming, to be generous, as the leader of an incredibly powerful nation.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:00 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:55 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:54 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:06 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:02 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am Not for nothing MD but when your as wealthy as Musk is I doubt he can care less about what anyone on this planet thinks about him. Bill Gates is equally as much of a freak as Musk is. I don't read a whole lot of disparaging comments about him or his very odd behavior.

Gates is the polar opposite of Musk and rarely speaks publicly. He does support many issues and when he has something to say about them he sometimes does. Not often.

Elon, on the other hand cannot shut up.

And those are the ones you need to worry about. I'd trust musk 100x over Gates.

Yeah, I understand why folks get worried about the kind of potential power Gates has through his enormous business success. But he certainly seems to have invested back in ways that support the public good, quite specifically. With enormous positive impact.

Maybe Musk will commit to the same with his wealth at some point. He hasn't done so as yet.

What is concerning, right now about Musk, is that he's tacked very hard to an area of business that is unlikely to respond well to his talents with at least the signals of doing enormous public harm...for profit.

You may not 'trust' what you have no evidence or basis to be concerned about re Gates, but Musk is a clear and present danger.

Let's hope he acts responsibly or that markets and perhaps government will rein in the damage.

Confused....what are you afraid of; what has Musk done that gives you pause that his intentions are bad?

Not withstanding, the guy has advanced tech to space faster than NASA and any other country, Neuralink stands to help millions of people if the bio-tech provides fruit.

And the sentiment is that he is a bad man....I just do not see how the dots get connected there.

"With tremendous power comes tremendous responsibility."

In some cases, intent is irrelevant. Thus far, Elon has not demonstrated a sober, considered affect. We can dispute whether or not that is determinative when running car companies, rocket companies, or boring companies, but when he moves into positions that have such a consequential (I hate the use of "impactful") outcomes, his qualifications need to be scrutinized very closely.

I have, and I find him wanting. He is impetuous and careless, if not outright dishonest (little matter of his claim to have financing to take Tesla public). Talking shite down a the bar with your friends or on a lax forum is one thing; causing wild market perturbations with demonstrably false assertions is another. He is at best immature, at worst malign. Either way, too risky to be entrusted with great power.

The reasons for minimum ages for elected office are obvious. First is assurance that the person has a good chance of being mature. The second is so that they have built up a "track record" of behavior for voters to use to adjudge their fitness for office. There is a reason that the relatively callow are allowed to stand for low level, relatively powerless positions, but "higher" offices have different age limits. When I read certain comments I wonder what the hlel was taught in certain school systems. Or whether people even attended high school.

P.S. How'd that work with dRumper? He was a disaster as a human as well as a pathetic businessman for his whole life. Why would anyone ever vote for that? And, unsurprisingly, he was underwhelming, to be generous, as the leader of an incredibly powerful nation.

a nit, but he was talking about financing to take them private. carry on.