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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:38 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:22 pm
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.

And McConnell is getting millions to tens of millions from Chinese state backed entities related to his wife for no good reason.

The sad thing is that they probably got that cash without much in the way of tech transfer or any immediate national security concerns. Just influence and an ear. It's been demonstrated time and time again (even from our own FBI in sting operations) that politicians are bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

OS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered.
:lol:

D's and R's. That's aalllll that matters......

We'll find out all the cr*p Trump did in the coming decades as the books roll out. And OS will have boatload of excuses as to why it's all sooper-cool.
He likes his policies

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:42 pm
by holmes435
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:22 pm
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.

And McConnell is getting millions to tens of millions from Chinese state backed entities related to his wife for no good reason.

The sad thing is that they probably got that cash without much in the way of tech transfer or any immediate national security concerns. Just influence and an ear. It's been demonstrated time and time again (even from our own FBI in sting operations) that politicians are bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

OS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered.
:lol:

D's and R's. That's aalllll that matters......

We'll find out all the cr*p Trump did in the coming decades as the books roll out. And OS will have boatload of excuses as to why it's all sooper-cool.
I still got your bbq sauces waiting in my fridge ;) Just looking for that quid-pro-quo. No undue influence as I am not a member of the JBF.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:07 am
by old salt
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.All for open business dealings initiated before Trump entered govt service. None of which included military or dual use tech transfer.

And McConnell is getting millions to tens of millions from Chinese state backed entities related to his wife for no good reason.
He's not running for President. KY residents are the only ones voting for him.

The sad thing is that they probably got that cash without much in the way of tech transfer or any immediate national security concerns.
Bingo ! That's one critical distinction I'm pointing out. Just influence and an ear. Except Trump was not in govt service yet. It's been demonstrated time and time again (even from our own FBI in sting operations) that politicians are bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

OS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered. I'm worried about dual use tech transfer because it undermines our military advantage & puts our forces at greater risk, sooner.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:09 am
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:38 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:22 pm
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.

And McConnell is getting millions to tens of millions from Chinese state backed entities related to his wife for no good reason.

The sad thing is that they probably got that cash without much in the way of tech transfer or any immediate national security concerns. Just influence and an ear. It's been demonstrated time and time again (even from our own FBI in sting operations) that politicians are bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

OS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered.
:lol:

D's and R's. That's aalllll that matters......

We'll find out all the cr*p Trump did in the coming decades as the books roll out. And OS will have boatload of excuses as to why it's all sooper-cool.
He likes his policies
Just like all the Russian collusion stuff that was unearthed the past 4 years.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:03 am
by holmes435
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:07 am
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.All for open business dealings initiated before Trump entered govt service. None of which included military or dual use tech transfer.
And all the money he got when he was running, and then in position to be elected, and then when he was POTUS.

The money did not stop once he entered govt service. And that term is laughable. You think he's serving the people? You're smarter than that.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:12 am
by holmes435
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:07 am
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm
And McConnell is getting millions to tens of millions from Chinese state backed entities related to his wife for no good reason.
He's not running for President. KY residents are the only ones voting for him.
Nope, he's not running for President. Just the leader of another branch of government. He's been instrumental in deciding (and mostly preventing) legislation and court appointees for 3 Presidential terms. He's been in the Senate for 9 Presidential terms.

The President isn't a dictator. We have three equal branches of government, just in case you forgot.

Funny how a few KY residents (which I was for a few years) get to decide how an entire branch of government is run. You seem to forget yourself.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:13 am
by old salt
holmes435 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:03 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:07 am
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.All for open business dealings initiated before Trump entered govt service. None of which included military or dual use tech transfer.
And all the money he got when he was running, and then in position to be elected, and then when he was POTUS.

The money did not stop once he entered govt service. And that term is laughable. You think he's serving the people? You're smarter than that.
Plz share the links you're referencing about Trump's business dealings in/with China.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54625422

US President Donald Trump has a Chinese bank account and spent years pursuing business projects in the country, the New York Times has reported.

The account is controlled by Trump International Hotels Management and paid local taxes between 2013 and 2015.

It was set up "to explore the potential for hotel deals in Asia", according to a Trump spokesman.

The NY Times revealed the account after obtaining Mr Trump's tax records, which included both personal and company financial details.

The Chinese bank account has paid out $188,561 in local taxes.

Alan Garten, a lawyer for the Trump Organisation, described the NY Times story as "pure speculation" and said that it made "incorrect assumptions".

He told the paper that Trump International Hotels Management had "opened an account with a Chinese bank having offices in the United States in order to pay the local taxes".

"No deals, transactions or other business activities ever materialised and, since 2015, the office has remained inactive," Mr Garten said.

"Though the bank account remains open, it has never been used for any other purpose," he told the NY Times.

The US president has multiple business interests both in the US and overseas. These include golf courses in Scotland and Ireland and a chain of five-star luxury hotels.

The NY Times reported that Mr Trump maintains foreign bank accounts in China, Britain and Ireland.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:20 am
by holmes435
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:07 am
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm OS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered. I'm worried about dual use tech transfer because it undermines our military advantage & puts our forces at greater risk, sooner.
And yet you're not worried about a president "legally" declassifying information to our enemies with no one else present to prevent him from doing so, or checking his info, or letting our military know what the "President" actually said in meetings with some of our biggest enemies.

Because that doesn't undermine our military advantage, and doesn't put our forces at greater risk.

You talk yourself in circles to defend the administration. You're better than this, and you don't have to die on this hill. Plenty of people got sucked into the Trump 2016 bandwagon. My Colonel of a father included. I don't blame anyone for supporting him once who didn't know any better or wanted to gamble on someone different. But we need to come together as a nation now, and reject the demagoguery of Trump. Please, please join the right side of history. Biden isn't perfect, but he's miles better than Trump and his family.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:21 am
by old salt
holmes435 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:20 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:07 amOS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered. I'm worried about dual use tech transfer because it undermines our military advantage & puts our forces at greater risk, sooner.
And yet you're not worried about a president "legally" declassifying information to our enemies with no one else present to prevent him from doing so, or checking his info, or letting our military know what the "President" actually said in meetings with some of our biggest enemies.

Because that doesn't undermine our military advantage, and doesn't put our forces at greater risk.

You talk yourself in circles to defend the administration. You're better than this, and you don't have to die on this hill. Plenty of people got sucked into the Trump 2016 bandwagon. My Colonel of a father included. I don't blame anyone for supporting him once who didn't know any better or wanted to gamble on someone different. But we need to come together as a nation now, and reject the demagoguery of Trump. Please, please join the right side of history. Biden isn't perfect, but he's miles better than Trump and his family.
What has Trump declassified which helps our adversaries ?
Biden is a phoney who has made bad decisions, He is no longer competent to make even those.
China is our greater threat. Russia is a lesser threat. Trump gets that. Biden does not.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:40 am
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:09 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:38 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:22 pm
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.

And McConnell is getting millions to tens of millions from Chinese state backed entities related to his wife for no good reason.

The sad thing is that they probably got that cash without much in the way of tech transfer or any immediate national security concerns. Just influence and an ear. It's been demonstrated time and time again (even from our own FBI in sting operations) that politicians are bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

OS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered.
:lol:

D's and R's. That's aalllll that matters......

We'll find out all the cr*p Trump did in the coming decades as the books roll out. And OS will have boatload of excuses as to why it's all sooper-cool.
He likes his policies
Just like all the Russian collusion stuff that was unearthed the past 4 years.
It wasn’t illegal!

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:26 am
by youthathletics
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:09 am
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:22 pm
holmes435 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:18 pm So Trump got tens of millions from China for no good reason. And his kids got cash and were fast-tracked for hard to get things like trademarks after he was elected for no good reason.

And McConnell is getting millions to tens of millions from Chinese state backed entities related to his wife for no good reason.

The sad thing is that they probably got that cash without much in the way of tech transfer or any immediate national security concerns. Just influence and an ear. It's been demonstrated time and time again (even from our own FBI in sting operations) that politicians are bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

OS and others aren't worried about that kind of influence, or politicians stuffing American and overseas money in their pockets unless it has clear and present national security concern. They were against that kind of thing when it mattered.
:lol:

D's and R's. That's aalllll that matters......

We'll find out all the cr*p Trump did in the coming decades as the books roll out. And OS will have boatload of excuses as to why it's all sooper-cool.
Just like all the Russian collusion stuff that was unearthed the past 4 years.
Has any member of the Biden family been formally investigated /vetted. Maybe that is happening right in front of our eyes and we are too caught up in picking sides to even rationalize it.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:20 am
by kramerica.inc
And the veneer is gone for Biden so he is politically inept now too. He cant even navigate Daily life without a handler.
I've said it before. If elected, he doesn't last a full year. Contingent upon if the DNC can get Kamela up to speed.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:26 am
by Typical Lax Dad
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:20 am And the veneer is gone for Biden so he is politically inept now too. He cant even navigate Daily life without a handler.
I've said it before. If elected, he doesn't last a full year. Contingent upon if the DNC can get Kamela up to speed.
It’s Kamala.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:01 am
by Laxxal22
I love all the posturing and mind bending to essentially arrive at, "See! Your candidate is a scumbag too!" Even if EVERYTHING alleged about Hunter, and by association Joe, were true it at most puts them on par with the Trump family. Strange, strange, strange to put so much time, effort, and emotional energy into something that doesn't even differentiate the two candidates at the end of the day.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:09 am
by dislaxxic
Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:01 am I love all the posturing and mind bending to essentially arrive at, "See! Your candidate is a scumbag too!" Even if EVERYTHING alleged about Hunter, and by association Joe, were true it at most puts them on par with the Trump family. Strange, strange, strange to put so much time, effort, and emotional energy into something that doesn't even differentiate the two candidates at the end of the day.
And to a large degree Laxxal, this is PRECISELY the outcome desired by the people wearing Biden tinfoil hats. "See! They're all the same!! What's the point in even discussing it??"

Like the Ukraine debacle that got Trump impeached, he now only wants the SUBJECT of "Biden corruption" in the narrative to blunt the bright light shining on his administration's REAL and on-going corruption.

..

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:36 am
by kramerica.inc
Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:01 am I love all the posturing and mind bending to essentially arrive at, "See! Your candidate is a scumbag too!" Even if EVERYTHING alleged about Hunter, and by association Joe, were true it at most puts them on par with the Trump family. Strange, strange, strange to put so much time, effort, and emotional energy into something that doesn't even differentiate the two candidates at the end of the day.
It does matter if you realize voting is not a binary choice.
If you want both parties to keep putting up shltty candidates, keep voting for shltty candidates.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:42 am
by a fan
Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:01 am I love all the posturing and mind bending to essentially arrive at, "See! Your candidate is a scumbag too!" Even if EVERYTHING alleged about Hunter, and by association Joe, were true it at most puts them on par with the Trump family. Strange, strange, strange to put so much time, effort, and emotional energy into something that doesn't even differentiate the two candidates at the end of the day.
That's not what they're doing. It's worse than that.....

TrumpNation has been telling us that Trump's corruption is just no big deal. Every action of Trump's comes with an excuse as to why it's fine.

So what they're saying here is: Trump is clean, nothing to see here. But Biden? Not only is every single invented allegation about Biden inherently true? It's corruption on a scale that's never been seen before! (cue ominous music)

It's hilarious. This is where our nation is. We had posters here who insisted that Trump's call to the Ukrainian President was just another day at work. Using the power of the Presidency to attack his enemies? Meh. Who cares?

And then the come on here, whining about Hunter Biden. It's hilarious, and they deserve to be mocked for trying to sell this nonsense, and trying to act like it's a coincidence that they're Republicans.

I hope Biden wins, and takes up a no show job at Lockheed Martin, with an office in Bejing, wire monthly wire transfers to Hunter in the Billions that Hunter posts on Instagram. These Trump enablers will have earned it.

So what? That's not illegal! :lol:

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:45 am
by a fan
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:36 am
Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:01 am I love all the posturing and mind bending to essentially arrive at, "See! Your candidate is a scumbag too!" Even if EVERYTHING alleged about Hunter, and by association Joe, were true it at most puts them on par with the Trump family. Strange, strange, strange to put so much time, effort, and emotional energy into something that doesn't even differentiate the two candidates at the end of the day.
It does matter if you realize voting is not a binary choice.
If you want both parties to keep putting up shltty candidates, keep voting for shltty candidates.
Sure would have liked this advice from you back when your party nominated Trump.

Or at any point during Trump's reign. But sure, lecture us about Biden....all while you support Trump. Yep, Biden sucks.....and they're gonna wave all his behavior through if he gets elected, just like you did with Trump.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:50 am
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:42 am
Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:01 am I love all the posturing and mind bending to essentially arrive at, "See! Your candidate is a scumbag too!" Even if EVERYTHING alleged about Hunter, and by association Joe, were true it at most puts them on par with the Trump family. Strange, strange, strange to put so much time, effort, and emotional energy into something that doesn't even differentiate the two candidates at the end of the day.
That's not what they're doing. It's worse than that.....

TrumpNation has been telling us that Trump's corruption is just no big deal. Every action of Trump's comes with an excuse as to why it's fine.

So what they're saying here is: Trump is clean, nothing to see here. But Biden? Not only is every single invented allegation about Biden inherently true? It's corruption on a scale that's never been seen before! (cue ominous music)

It's hilarious. This is where our nation is. We had posters here who insisted that Trump's call to the Ukrainian President was just another day at work. Using the power of the Presidency to attack his enemies? Meh. Who cares?

And then the come on here, whining about Hunter Biden. It's hilarious, and they deserve to be mocked for trying to sell this nonsense, and trying to act like it's a coincidence that they're Republicans.

I hope Biden wins, and takes up a no show job at Lockheed Martin, with an office in Bejing, wire monthly wire transfers to Hunter in the Billions that Hunter posts on Instagram. These Trump enablers will have earned it.

So what? That's not illegal! :lol:
I like his policies!

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:51 am
by kramerica.inc
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:36 am
Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:01 am I love all the posturing and mind bending to essentially arrive at, "See! Your candidate is a scumbag too!" Even if EVERYTHING alleged about Hunter, and by association Joe, were true it at most puts them on par with the Trump family. Strange, strange, strange to put so much time, effort, and emotional energy into something that doesn't even differentiate the two candidates at the end of the day.
It does matter if you realize voting is not a binary choice.
If you want both parties to keep putting up shltty candidates, keep voting for shltty candidates.
Sure would have liked this advice from you back when your party nominated Trump.

Or at any point during Trump's reign. But sure, lecture us about Biden....all while you support Trump. Yep, Biden sucks.....and they're gonna wave all his behavior through if he gets elected, just like you did with Trump.
I didn't vote for or support Trump in the primaries OR General 4 years ago. They gave us 2 bad choices 4 years ago too.
I was Kasich through and through. And I spoke about it at length. Same things I'm saying now.
Was Fanlax around or was it Laxpower? Get the wayback machine.