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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:28 am
by dislaxxic
Meanwhile, the Con in Chief tweets out obviously faked video of Pelosi...setting up further attacks on the media, by himself perpetuating FAKE NEWS...

What a scumbag...

Team Trump, Including a Fox Host, Go All-In on Pushing Doctored Pelosi Videos

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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:19 am
by MDlaxfan76
dislaxxic wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:28 am Meanwhile, the Con in Chief tweets out obviously faked video of Pelosi...setting up further attacks on the media, by himself perpetuating FAKE NEWS...

What a scumbag...

Team Trump, Including a Fox Host, Go All-In on Pushing Doctored Pelosi Videos

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Disgusting, but, sadly, not surprising.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:48 am
by dislaxxic
Makes it easier for him to make it look like the jerk tapes were "fake", right?

This is what a Con Man does...and he's good at it. Fortunately, the country really seems to be coming to a point where the realize it time for him to GET FIRED.

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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 12:24 pm
by wahoomurf
CU88 wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:18 am
dislaxxic wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 8:46 am The Socialist Con Man Does it AGAIN

Defend this, you GOPers...can you?

"Thursday’s aid announcement is the second for American farmers over the past year. Last July, the White House said it would provide $12 billion in emergency funding to help those caught in the middle of the trade war."

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crickets...
I'd rather EAT a bushel of CRICKETS than bother commenting on the VEG's astute and well-thought out strategies.

His the brilliant decision to kick the Chinese in their collective bahoolas,resulted in American framers getting kicked in the nuts.

Last one.Enjoy the summer.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 1:08 pm
by Brooklyn
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Poor Donny - he just can't help it. :lol:

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 1:16 pm
by ToastDunk
Is it me, or does this rank as one of the most f'd up things this President and his administration have done? I mean aside from ripping children from their families. Edited Pelosi Video vs. the Original: A Side-by-Side Comparison

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politi ... =true&t=52

Do Trump supporters think they've invested too much time and energy backing him that they can't/won't leave him now?

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 2:04 pm
by tech37
dislaxxic wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:28 am Meanwhile, the Con in Chief tweets out obviously faked video of Pelosi...setting up further attacks on the media, by himself perpetuating FAKE NEWS...

What a scumbag...

Team Trump, Including a Fox Host, Go All-In on Pushing Doctored Pelosi Videos

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dissssss...who doctored the vid? My guess, some of the left wing looneys you like to get in bed with. Let us know when you find out.:roll:

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 7:37 am
by OCanada
Didn’t go back too far. Sorry if this is repetitive but the Barr investigation to identify people to execute is frightening on so many fronts but the one of concern to me now is he has access to our most secret intelligence.

I expect the international community its will stop sharing or at least be more circumspect in sharing and that hurts us. Further if say Russian sources become identified or UK sources do we may never recover trust because trump wants to know who investigated him rather than deal with the facts

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 8:38 am
by MDlaxfan76
OCanada wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 7:37 am Didn’t go back too far. Sorry if this is repetitive but the Barr investigation to identify people to execute is frightening on so many fronts but the one of concern to me now is he has access to our most secret intelligence.

I expect the international community its will stop sharing or at least be more circumspect in sharing and that hurts us. Further if say Russian sources become identified or UK sources do we may never recover trust because trump wants to know who investigated him rather than deal with the facts
Worse, Trump has already given up classified intelligence, putting allied agents, at risk, directly to the Russians. And that's not even including whatever he's shared 1 on 1 with Putin, as those conversations have had no witnesses, no notes taken.

And, under one theory of being truly witless, Trump may actually believe that this has all been a Witch Hunt perpetrated by his enemies, including the agent close to Putin who was the source early on that Putin was directing this election interference.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 9:58 am
by CU88
tech37 wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 2:04 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:28 am Meanwhile, the Con in Chief tweets out obviously faked video of Pelosi...setting up further attacks on the media, by himself perpetuating FAKE NEWS...

What a scumbag...

Team Trump, Including a Fox Host, Go All-In on Pushing Doctored Pelosi Videos

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dissssss...who doctored the vid? My guess, some of the left wing looneys you like to get in bed with. Let us know when you find out.:roll:
You have a short term memory, or are blinded by your love of o d.

Expert: Acosta video distributed by White House was doctored
https://www.apnews.com/c575bd1cc3b1456c ... 670c7fe2a/

DEPLORABLE

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:22 pm
by a fan
Also sending 1,500 more troops to the Middle East.

There goes any and all claims of isolationism, old salt......




https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/24/trump-c ... sales.html

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 9:58 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:22 pm Also sending 1,500 more troops to the Middle East.

There goes any and all claims of isolationism, old salt......




https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/24/trump-c ... sales.html

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 10:03 pm
by old salt
old salt wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 9:58 pm
a fan wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:22 pm Also sending 1,500 more troops to the Middle East.

There goes any and all claims of isolationism, old salt......

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/24/trump-c ... sales.html
Right. Reminds me of Desert Shield .:roll:. Ignore the alarmist hype.
1500 troops for force protection & missile defense, for the troops & permanent coalition bases we've had there for decades.
We're still at our lowest force level in the ME since 1990.
Maybe the next rocket into the green zone will take out some diplomats. ...remember Benghazi ?

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:16 pm
by a fan
Come on. It's real simple math. Isolationism means we're either out, or at a minimum, getting out.

You don't add troops if isolationism is the goal.


I'm not alarmed. I'm pointing out, simply, that you're wrong about Trump. And we're still in Syria.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:41 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 11:16 pm Come on. It's real simple math. Isolationism means we're either out, or at a minimum, getting out.

You don't add troops if isolationism is the goal.

I'm not alarmed. I'm pointing out, simply, that you're wrong about Trump. And we're still in Syria.
Net addition = 900 .:roll:. (1500 - 600 Patriot Ballalion, re-positioning, already in theatre).

It's not that complicated. We either pull out completely or protect who & what we have there (including host allies who've invited us in & coalition allies we asked to come help us}.

By your simplistic definition, if Trump didn't pull everybody out of the ME the day after he was inaugurated, he's not an isolationist.

We're still mopping up ISIS. We have a small force there enabling the SDF & protecting the Kurds (by our mere presence).

I applauded Trump's isolationist tendencies -- remember I said - push the pendulum back the other way. The trend is still isolationist -- compared to before. I never expected that we'd withdraw from the world stage immediately or abandon our allies.

Most of this is to protect the air & naval assets we have permanently stationed in Bahrain, Qatar & UAE (a relatively small, but concentrated footprint & potential target area).

Remember when there was a panic if we didn't have a carrier in the Persian Gulf ?
Now there's a panic if we have a carrier delay in the Arabian Sea as it transits around the world, changing homeport from E to W coast.
It's all just (D) & MSM alarmist political hype.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:15 am
by a fan
I'm not alarmed. You know I"d prefer we get out.

Rolling your eyes tells you all you need to know. There has been no material change to our military forces overseas.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. That's my point.

Military spending back through the roof, as usual. And our troops are freaking everywhere. Same as it's been for decades. Nothing has changed.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:38 am
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 12:15 am I'm not alarmed. You know I"d prefer we get out.

Rolling your eyes tells you all you need to know. There has been no material change to our military forces overseas.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. That's my point.

Military spending back through the roof, as usual. And our troops are freaking everywhere. Same as it's been for decades. Nothing has changed.
Something HAS changed....Obamer is gone!

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:45 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 12:15 am I'm not alarmed. You know I"d prefer we get out.

Rolling your eyes tells you all you need to know. There has been no material change to our military forces overseas.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. That's my point.

Military spending back through the roof, as usual. And our troops are freaking everywhere. Same as it's been for decades. Nothing has changed.
That's just wrong. Our naval deployments have been shortened & changed significantly -- I pointed it out as it was happening.
We now have far fewer troops in Syria & Iraq, engaged in kinetic ops much less frequently.
We brought home much of our air power from the ME.
That's why it's getting so much attention that a tiny % is going back to protect our permanent presence in response to specific threat intel.
Stuff like Benghazi doesn't "just happen". Houthi rebels have fired IRGC supplied ballistic missiles on the Saudi capital.
Our air & naval forces, concentrated in Bahrain, Qatar & UAE are within range. It's prudent to defend them & have counter strike forces available to deter Iran & their proxies from taking a shot.
Then cruise missiles were photo'd being loaded into IRGC dhows.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-phot ... d=63076816
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pentago ... d=62968486

We're negotiating with the Taliban so we can further draw down in Afghanistan, where the ANSF are now doing the fighting.
We have increased our forces in Europe as part of our long programmed plan to bolster NATO's E flank to deter Russia.
We are maintaining a presence & working with allies around the globe.
We are not invading or occupying anywhere, or forcing regime changes,
Huge difference.
We're encouraging our allies to increase their defense spending so we can reduce our forward deployed forces.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 7:56 pm
by a fan
Well from you own citation, you'll see the proposed plan to send 120K Troops to the ME if Iran takes Trump's bait and either hits a US target, or shows signs of restarting the nuke plan that many here swears is happening there already.

End a treaty that according to our own Generals was working, pick a fight, send troops.

Isolationism?

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:17 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 7:56 pm
Well from you own citation, you'll see the proposed plan to send 120K Troops to the ME if Iran takes Trump's bait and either hits a US target, or shows signs of restarting the nuke plan that many here swears is happening there already.

End a treaty that according to our own Generals was working, pick a fight, send troops.

Isolationism?
It's not a proposed plan. It's a contingency plan. We have them for all sorts of scenarios, all over the globe.
We won't attack Iran if they restart nuc development, we'll keep squeezing them with sanctions.
The 120k number is what would be required if Iran starts an all out war. ...not likely. It's a signal to Iran.

The treaty wasn't working. Iran was destabilizing the entire region. IRGC proxies were shooting missiles into Israel & Saudi Arabia.
The sanctions are squeezing Iran. They're trying to scare us into backing off.