2024

[ggait]

WSJ Guy: Kamala would be the best Democratic candidate.
Harris: I'm running
WSJ Guy: Wait, I was wrong a week or two ago...

MSM like the WSJ has been pathetically predictable since it was all bought out.

NattyBoh wins today's Fanlax!!!

[a fan]

BLM Chiming in & pissed off. https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

Staying engaged: https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1816306232786853956

Kamala was selected, not elected.

But the solution is simple.

Join us in calling on
@TheDemocrats
to let the American people vote in an informal, virtual primary (an online vote) ASAP so our communities can weigh in on this unprecedented moment. Democracy demands no less.

Sign our petition to the DNC: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/call-on ... n-process/

Outside interests trying to mess with the Dems. Hilarious.

Oh yeah, an online poll is a GREAT idea.

[youthathletics]

BLM Chiming in & pissed off. https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

Staying engaged: https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1816306232786853956

Kamala was selected, not elected.

But the solution is simple.

Join us in calling on
@TheDemocrats
to let the American people vote in an informal, virtual primary (an online vote) ASAP so our communities can weigh in on this unprecedented moment. Democracy demands no less.

Sign our petition to the DNC: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/call-on ... n-process/

Outside interests trying to mess with the Dems. Hilarious.

Oh yeah, an online poll is a GREAT idea.

THe earned their way last outing....while the democrats and others showed soladarity, This time, however, they shoved asisde....b/c they dont support their perceived cause...Got it. If not for double standards, the left would not have any.

[Seacoaster(1)]

BLM Chiming in & pissed off. https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

Staying engaged: https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1816306232786853956

Kamala was selected, not elected.

But the solution is simple.

Join us in calling on
@TheDemocrats
to let the American people vote in an informal, virtual primary (an online vote) ASAP so our communities can weigh in on this unprecedented moment. Democracy demands no less.

Sign our petition to the DNC: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/call-on ... n-process/

Outside interests trying to mess with the Dems. Hilarious.

Oh yeah, an online poll is a GREAT idea.

THe earned their way last outing....while the democrats and others showed soladarity, This time, however, they shoved asisde....b/c they dont support their perceived cause...Got it. If not for double standards, the left would not have any.

Any chance you can rephrase this to we can understand what you are trying to say?

[youthathletics]

BLM Chiming in & pissed off. https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

Staying engaged: https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1816306232786853956

Kamala was selected, not elected.

But the solution is simple.

Join us in calling on
@TheDemocrats
to let the American people vote in an informal, virtual primary (an online vote) ASAP so our communities can weigh in on this unprecedented moment. Democracy demands no less.

Sign our petition to the DNC: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/call-on ... n-process/

Outside interests trying to mess with the Dems. Hilarious.

Oh yeah, an online poll is a GREAT idea.

THe earned their way last outing....while the democrats and others showed soladarity, This time, however, they shoved asisde....b/c they dont support their perceived cause...Got it. If not for double standards, the left would not have any.

Any chance you can rephrase this to we can understand what you are trying to say?

Everyone loved and supported BLM last outing, now, not so much.....why?

[youthathletics]

Kamala coming out a day late ....if only Trump would have waited until January 7th to say something.

https://x.com/VP/status/1816490945501708660

[youthathletics]

Will this be here version of the HRC Deplorables? https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1816466441773760875

[youthathletics]

Interesting clip from Ford: https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1816463411812966774

[Typical Lax Dad]

[a fan]

BLM Chiming in & pissed off. https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

Staying engaged: https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1816306232786853956

Kamala was selected, not elected.

But the solution is simple.

Join us in calling on
@TheDemocrats
to let the American people vote in an informal, virtual primary (an online vote) ASAP so our communities can weigh in on this unprecedented moment. Democracy demands no less.

Sign our petition to the DNC: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/call-on ... n-process/

Outside interests trying to mess with the Dems. Hilarious.

Oh yeah, an online poll is a GREAT idea.

THe earned their way last outing....while the democrats and others showed soladarity, This time, however, they shoved asisde....b/c they dont support their perceived cause...Got it. If not for double standards, the left would not have any.

Meh. The irony here is.....the dude who runs the twitter account posted that. They didn't hold a vote as to what to post.

[youthathletics]

BLM Chiming in & pissed off. https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

Staying engaged: https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1816306232786853956

Kamala was selected, not elected.

But the solution is simple.

Join us in calling on
@TheDemocrats
to let the American people vote in an informal, virtual primary (an online vote) ASAP so our communities can weigh in on this unprecedented moment. Democracy demands no less.

Sign our petition to the DNC: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/call-on ... n-process/

Outside interests trying to mess with the Dems. Hilarious.

Oh yeah, an online poll is a GREAT idea.

THe earned their way last outing....while the democrats and others showed soladarity, This time, however, they shoved asisde....b/c they dont support their perceived cause...Got it. If not for double standards, the left would not have any.

Meh. The irony here is.....the dude who runs the twitter account posted that. They didn't hold a vote as to what to post.

That’s one way to walk it back.

[cradleandshoot]

Kamala coming out a day late ....if only Trump would have waited until January 7th to say something.

https://x.com/VP/status/1816490945501708660

Holy crap...Kamala agrees with me. Wait maybe that
should be I agree with her. Technically by the rules established here on this forum... yesterdays event was a classic example of what a peaceful protest should look like.

[OCanada]

LBJ announced on March 31, 1968 that he wasn’t going to run. So he was a lamer duck than Joe. Even as a snot nosed kid at the time, I understood that was a big deal.

Your correct but the threat environment today in the world isn't even remotely close to what it was in 1968. Vietnam was the only issue that was on peoples minds. The world has gotten way more complicated in the 50 plus years since then. There are a lot more bad actors out there in the world today that would take great satisfaction at handing a few lumps to the USA. I only hope that nagging little voice in the back of my head is wrong.

Very narrow view of the world. Vietnam was the “only issue”? Horse pucky. MLK assassinated in 1968. Bobby Kennedy assassinated in 1958. Cities were burning. National Guards were called out. Civil Rights legislation was being put in place. The Dixiecrats mov ised to the Republican Party. Seismic! Nist go name a view

Those were all internal issues that caused much heartache but were always secondary to the conflict in Vietnam. I betcha didn't listen to Walter Cronkite on the news telling you " and that's the way it is " . I watched it with my dad almost every night
Every night there was always an update on how many soldiers we lost that day, that week that month. The ongoing disaster of what was happening in Vietnam and his realization that he was solely responsible for it left him a broken man. He realized it was time to let someone else try and fix the problem. I lived through those years and remember it all to well. I have no idea if you did as well. I remember my sister who hated the war starting heated arguments with my dad about the war. My dad hated all war he lived war having survived extensive front line WW2 combat. The events you cited were all inclusive of the chaos and heartache of those horrible years. Vietnam festered in the American conscience for years and damn near tore this country apart. I remember what it was like because my family the experience everyday. If you remember it differently then that was your experience.

That is not even close to what you claimed. You led a very sheltered life apparently.

[njbill]

Kamala coming out a day late ....if only Trump would have waited until January 7th to say something.

https://x.com/VP/status/1816490945501708660

Holy crap...Kamala agrees with me. Wait maybe that
should be I agree with her. Technically by the rules established here on this forum... yesterdays event was a classic example of what a peaceful protest should look like.

So Kamala agrees with you, eh? Means you two are of like minds. Have you put a Harris sign up in your front yard yet?

[njbill]

Interesting clip from Ford: https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1816463411812966774

That is an interesting clip. Sounds like the question was asked by perhaps an eight-year-old girl. Maybe Ford’s “the president will die” answer was a bit harsh given his audience.

[youthathletics]

Interesting clip from Ford: https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1816463411812966774

That is an interesting clip. Sounds like the question was asked by perhaps an eight-year-old girl. Maybe Ford’s “the president will die” answer was a bit harsh given his audience.

Speak the truth, in love.

[cradleandshoot]

Kamala coming out a day late ....if only Trump would have waited until January 7th to say something.

https://x.com/VP/status/1816490945501708660

Holy crap...Kamala agrees with me. Wait maybe that
should be I agree with her. Technically by the rules established here on this forum... yesterdays event was a classic example of what a peaceful protest should look like.

So Kamala agrees with you, eh? Means you two are of like minds. Have you put a Harris sign up in your front yard yet?

I'm waiting until she chooses a running mate.

[ggait]

WSJ Guy: Kamala would be the best Democratic candidate.
Harris: I'm running
WSJ Guy: Wait, I was wrong a week or two ago...

MSM like the WSJ has been pathetically predictable since it was all bought out.

NattyBoh wins today's Fanlax!!!

do you think she really has a chance against Trump?

Nobody knows. We’ll find out.

But we do know that Sleepy Joe had a sub 15% chance. About the same odds as drawing to an inside straight. No thanks.

I’d expect Harris to still be an underdog, but have a higher win probability than Joe. In all likelihood to beat Trump, Joe needed to drop out in 2023 so there could have been a real primary.

[Farfromgeneva]

You betcha Joe is pissed. And rightly so. His supposed partners in the Democratic Party stabbed him in the back and threw him under the bus.

The main villain is Pelosi, though Obama is not far behind. She persuaded the donors to cut off the money. When the books are written about this saga down the road, Pelosi and Obama are gonna come off really badly especially if Harris loses.

The Dems had the high moral ground over Trump and could claim they were working to save democracy. They totally blew it. What they just did is as anti-democratic as could be.

You're right about Clooney as irrelevant, (other than perhaps as another canary in the coal mine).

But I think you're wrong about the professional politicians. They're pros. They looked at data, they looked at money flow, they looked at trend lines, they looked at down ballot impacts, and they made a consistent judgment across the board. Fully understanding the downside risks. A whole lot of them who know this business way, way better than any of us Fanlax posters.

Could Joe have won? We'll never know, but a heck of a lot of people looked at that debate, just like I did, as an epic disaster which turned an uphill chance of winning (when by all my measures should have been a runaway given the horribleness of the alternative) to a potential landslide defeat. Didn't mean I wasn't going to vote for Joe given the alternative, but man, it was depressing. And he did nothing in the ensuing weeks to prove the debate was a one-off or that there was any way he could meet the demand for fresh new face and ideas, a generational shift. Just nothing left in the quiver.

I disagree about "anti-democratic" as the representatives of 14 million die hard primary voters get the final say. Another 65 million+ will likely show up and vote for her...hopefully on the + side of that.

Joe weighed in hard on behalf of Harris but the delegates weren't bound to do what he advised...they made their own calculations on behalf of those who voted for them and their own beliefs as to what had the best chance of success. Super swiftly, because, IMO, it was super obvious. That no one wanted to challenge Harris isn't "anti-democratic" it's that they understand the strength of her pole position and the benefits of rallying to her side.

Just importantly, the massive outpouring of small donor support, 60% brand new donors, speaks volumes about what folks think about this call. Same for the massive sign-up of new volunteers.

The Dems very much still have the moral high ground over Trump...it ain't close and grinding about it does zero good.

As I wrote earlier, the Brits tossed aside Churchill shortly after the end of the war, a war they very likely would not have survived absent his leadership. History looks super favorably on Churchill and for much the same reasons I think history will do the same for Biden.

But, yes, Harris needs to win...let's get behind that full force.

For what it's worth, my kids (28, 25) and all of their friends, whom I regularly see around our town or who communicate regularly with them, were gobsmacked by the debate performance. Their regular way of consuming news and communicating it -- social media, Instagram, the odious TikTok, etc. -- amplified Joe's age and relative infirmity in a way that I, anyway, really couldn't understand or absorb.

I have the highest regard for njbill, but I do think the professional political people did the right thing. If Biden is pissed, then having been a President, Vice President, and multi-term Senator will at least be something to sink back into at the end of the line. History will remember Biden with both kindness and respect. I know I will.

... Joe will be in the top 10 presidents list, the day he leaves office. He has an impressive legacy.

He could well be top 10. Rs won't agree of course.

Here is one list I found:

Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Harry S. Truman
Thomas Jefferson
John F. Kennedy
Ronald Reagan
Barack Obama
Lyndon B. Johnson
James Monroe
Woodrow Wilson
William McKinley
John Adams
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
James K. Polk
William J. Clinton
Ulysses S. Grant
George H. W. Bush
Andrew Jackson
William Howard Taft
Calvin Coolidge
Grover Cleveland
Jimmy Carter
James A. Garfield
Gerald R. Ford
George W. Bush
Chester A. Arthur
Richard M. Nixon
Benjamin Harrison
Rutherford B. Hayes
Martin Van Buren
Zachary Taylor
Herbert Hoover
Warren G. Harding
Millard Fillmore
John Tyler
William Henry Harrison
Donald J. Trump
Franklin Pierce
Andrew Johnson
James Buchanan

https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2 ... ge=overall

Not too ten and Lyndon johnson way too high

[Farfromgeneva]

LBJ announced on March 31, 1968 that he wasn’t going to run. So he was a lamer duck than Joe. Even as a snot nosed kid at the time, I understood that was a big deal.

Your correct but the threat environment today in the world isn't even remotely close to what it was in 1968. Vietnam was the only issue that was on peoples minds. The world has gotten way more complicated in the 50 plus years since then. There are a lot more bad actors out there in the world today that would take great satisfaction at handing a few lumps to the USA. I only hope that nagging little voice in the back of my head is wrong.

Very narrow view of the world. Vietnam was the “only issue”? Horse pucky. MLK assassinated in 1968. Bobby Kennedy assassinated in 1958. Cities were burning. National Guards were called out. Civil Rights legislation was being put in place. The Dixiecrats mov ised to the Republican Party. Seismic! Nist go name a view

Those were all internal issues that caused much heartache but were always secondary to the conflict in Vietnam. I betcha didn't listen to Walter Cronkite on the news telling you " and that's the way it is " . I watched it with my dad almost every night
Every night there was always an update on how many soldiers we lost that day, that week that month. The ongoing disaster of what was happening in Vietnam and his realization that he was solely responsible for it left him a broken man. He realized it was time to let someone else try and fix the problem. I lived through those years and remember it all to well. I have no idea if you did as well. I remember my sister who hated the war starting heated arguments with my dad about the war. My dad hated all war he lived war having survived extensive front line WW2 combat. The events you cited were all inclusive of the chaos and heartache of those horrible years. Vietnam festered in the American conscience for years and damn near tore this country apart. I remember what it was like because my family the experience everyday. If you remember it differently then that was your experience.

That is not even close to what you claimed. You led a very sheltered life apparently.

Small closed world yes