Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:30 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:30 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:02 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:22 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:03 pm :lol: :lol: OS nails it.
Right. He's on the same merry-go-round as you. :oops:
Better check out the latest rumors on Instagram and Twitter. :lol:
:lol: Your feeling get hurt? :lol:
Are you asking if someone is Jewish?
Would that be the only justification for someone finding an antisemitic slur to be offensive?
I see you are having problems with definitions. again! You continue to make me laugh, looking for race or some attempt to attack and label others. I think if you do a quick google search you will learn rather quickly it has a clear practical meaning NOT related whatsoever to race gender or creed.

a hard-hearted moneylender.
verb (used without object)
(lowercase) to lend money at extortionate rates of interest
youth, I don't have to look for it, it's exactly the implication of the use of the word.

The word and its meaning come from a specific reference to the character in Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice. The name in Hebrew means white-haired.

However, the word has no other origin in English, except from that play, which has a long history of grotesque exaggeration and prejudice.

Not sure which source you found of the definition, but all that I found made clear the source of the word. Did your source have it and you cut it off?

First source in google search: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/shylock

second source: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/di ... sh/shylock

https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=shylocking

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries. ... sh/shylock

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/shylock

The prejudice against Jews was based both in interpretations of passages such as in John suggesting that 'the Jews' killed Jesus and one of jealousy over the financial success some Jews had in the newly forming merchant class, within a previously rigid caste system. The practice of lending and borrowing, which had been eschewed in that caste system and by the church outside of the ruling class, enabled small businesses to flourish.

Now, explain to me what benefit Salty gained in using that word instead of say "financiers" or "bankers" or "investors" ?

"SNAP too. Low margin, govt mandated loss leaders, but you big time shylocks don't have to bother with them. They're for the little people."

Casual use of a slur.

So, I ask again to your question: "Are your feelings hurt?"

Are you asking if someone is Jewish?
Would that be the only justification for someone finding an antisemitic slur to be offensive?


I see casual bigotry and prejudice in lots of people's sloppy use of words. It often, but not always, reveals actual bigotries. But sometimes it's merely sloppy or some level of ignorance, and reveals more about the bigotries in their environment and history than any intention.

Others seem to use these words purposely to offend. In such cases, there's no question as to the underlying bigotry. Even then, I want to know for sure about intention.

For those when it's just casual, the next test is how they react to being made aware of the slur...if they recant and apologize, explaining they hadn't intended it, cool beans. No sweat, everybody learns.

If they deny it's a slur...
The lengths and word salad diatribes you will go to in order to find fault with anyone NOT you, never ceases to amaze me. I can only imagine what you say behind others back after pleasantries face to face. Literally, the first link you provided form dictionary dot com explanation 2 and 3 sum it up. And you argument that he could have used "financiers" or "bankers" or "investors"....would not have been correct.

It would be far easier to for you to simply say....yea I probably just made an assumption I should not have, rather than pulling the trigger then trying to walk it back. It's okay to do that once and awhile...it shows us you are not an egomaniac and human.
What is it that you're missing?

The word is a slur, a specifically anti-semitic slur, and the choice of the word raises a legitimate question as to whether the choice is based in some level of ignorance or whether it's been consciously chosen to incite the reaction. I don't happen to be Jewish, but do I need to be to take offense at an antisemitic slur being used?

I offered multiple alternatives that could have been used if the meaning intended was innocent...and it was just used sloppily.

So, why are you so incensed at the question?
Why do you deny that it is a slur?
What bothers you so much about that being pointed out?

BTW, I err frequently and have zero issue with acknowledging error.
And if I've given offense inappropriately I have no issue with apologizing.

At the moment, I'm not seeing my error...feel free to take another whack at actually explaining...you needn't attack me personally, just explain where I'm wrong please.
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Kismet wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:51 am
old salt wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:31 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:46 am ...maybe Comer and Jordan can also look into this potentially catastrophic classified intell breach at the end of Orange Fatso's term
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12 ... -trump-dg/
Potentially catastrophic ? Oh my ! Sources & methods.
It may have revealed the bar where Igor Danchenko overheard the pee tape story.
... or the DoJ IG report which revealed the FBI lovebirds texts.
Your assumption that the binder is identical of Fusion GPS/Steele Dossier is laughable. It originated at CIA not FBI as well.
Keep shilling for Orange Fatso. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
That was the source & methodology of the Steele Dossier, which was the genesis & basis of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
Trump kept a binder of documents that prove the deep state shenanigans to prevent, then undermine, his Presidency.
Including the "evidence" which was used to go after Papadop & Carter Page.
:shock: surprise, surprise.
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old salt wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:25 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:51 am
old salt wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:31 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:46 am ...maybe Comer and Jordan can also look into this potentially catastrophic classified intell breach at the end of Orange Fatso's term
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12 ... -trump-dg/
Potentially catastrophic ? Oh my ! Sources & methods.
It may have revealed the bar where Igor Danchenko overheard the pee tape story.
... or the DoJ IG report which revealed the FBI lovebirds texts.
Your assumption that the binder is identical of Fusion GPS/Steele Dossier is laughable. It originated at CIA not FBI as well.
Keep shilling for Orange Fatso. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
That was the source & methodology of the Steele Dossier, which was the genesis & basis of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
Trump kept a binder of documents that prove the deep state shenanigans to prevent, then undermine, his Presidency.
:shock: surprise, surprise.
Is that what they prove?
So, why has he never shown them to the public?

That's about the most stupid, or trolling take, I've ever heard.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:29 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:25 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:51 am
old salt wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:31 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:46 am ...maybe Comer and Jordan can also look into this potentially catastrophic classified intell breach at the end of Orange Fatso's term
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12 ... -trump-dg/
Potentially catastrophic ? Oh my ! Sources & methods.
It may have revealed the bar where Igor Danchenko overheard the pee tape story.
... or the DoJ IG report which revealed the FBI lovebirds texts.
Your assumption that the binder is identical of Fusion GPS/Steele Dossier is laughable. It originated at CIA not FBI as well.
Keep shilling for Orange Fatso. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
That was the source & methodology of the Steele Dossier, which was the genesis & basis of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
Trump kept a binder of documents that prove the deep state shenanigans to prevent, then undermine, his Presidency.
Including the "evidence" which was used to go after Papadop & Carter Page.
:shock: surprise, surprise.
Is that what they prove?
So, why has he never shown them to the public?

That's about the most stupid, or trolling take, I've ever heard.
It has yet to be established that Trump actually has them.
Maybe this publicity will reveal them to the public. There's already a lot of leakage about what's in the binder.
If Trump does have them, maybe he's waiting to reveal them if he is reelected. ...during the purge.
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The buck doesn't stop here when highly classified intel is gone. JFC.

Maybe Hunter stole them? We are in crazy town.
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You folks are going off on some bizarre tangents. Your all doing what you do best... overcomplicating a very simple issue. Hunter Biden is a serial tax cheat It is very well established how sacred tax revenue is to all FLP types. It is the lifeblood to their own existence. How should Hunter Biden be punished for his ripping off the American people is the issue. Think of all of the poor people who could have been helped with the money Hunter cheated them out of. His drug addiction trumped any compassion towards poor people in need. How many poor Americans could have been fed with the money Hunter used as nose candy? So where is the outrage about that in liberal America?
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old salt wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:25 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:51 am
old salt wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:31 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:46 am ...maybe Comer and Jordan can also look into this potentially catastrophic classified intell breach at the end of Orange Fatso's term
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12 ... -trump-dg/
Potentially catastrophic ? Oh my ! Sources & methods.
It may have revealed the bar where Igor Danchenko overheard the pee tape story.
... or the DoJ IG report which revealed the FBI lovebirds texts.
Your assumption that the binder is identical of Fusion GPS/Steele Dossier is laughable. It originated at CIA not FBI as well.
Keep shilling for Orange Fatso. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
That was the source & methodology of the Steele Dossier, which was the genesis & basis of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
Trump kept a binder of documents that prove the deep state shenanigans to prevent, then undermine, his Presidency.
Including the "evidence" which was used to go after Papadop & Carter Page.
:shock: surprise, surprise.
There was no hoax. There was collusion
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:57 am You folks are going off on some bizarre tangents. Your all doing what you do best... overcomplicating a very simple issue. Hunter Biden is a serial tax cheat It is very well established how sacred tax revenue is to all FLP types. It is the lifeblood to their own existence. How should Hunter Biden be punished for his ripping off the American people is the issue. Think of all of the poor people who could have been helped with the money Hunter cheated them out of. His drug addiction trumped any compassion towards poor people in need. How many poor Americans could have been fed with the money Hunter used as nose candy? So where is the outrage about that in liberal America?
Horse pucky;


Lol that was priceless. You have no problem with Biden being selectively prosecuted and treated differently than others with similar issues. None at all. Weaponizing DOJ ad Trump did? Mot a problem. It is your ilk that are undermining a pillar of democracies eg equal justice.
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OCanada wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:33 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:57 am You folks are going off on some bizarre tangents. Your all doing what you do best... overcomplicating a very simple issue. Hunter Biden is a serial tax cheat It is very well established how sacred tax revenue is to all FLP types. It is the lifeblood to their own existence. How should Hunter Biden be punished for his ripping off the American people is the issue. Think of all of the poor people who could have been helped with the money Hunter cheated them out of. His drug addiction trumped any compassion towards poor people in need. How many poor Americans could have been fed with the money Hunter used as nose candy? So where is the outrage about that in liberal America?
Horse pucky;


Lol that was priceless. You have no problem with Biden being selectively prosecuted and treated differently than others with similar issues. None at all. Weaponizing DOJ ad Trump did? Mot a problem. It is your ilk that are undermining a pillar of democracies eg equal justice.
Nice try scooter. My wife and I had the IRS ready to come down on us like a ton of bricks for a 10 thousand dollar mistake on their end. Sadly we were not treated with kid gloves like Hunter Biden was. Their response was pay us our f***ing money. Of course we didn't have the luxury of having a relative who was VP of the USA. My wish to you is that some day these parasites at the IRS get you in their sights. It is YOUR ilk willing to give the IRS carte blanche to run roughshod over the American people while not having to answer to anyone. When the day comes when the IRS bends you over and porks you in your ass then get back to me and tell me how much you enjoyed it. FTR the government still owes my wife and I almost 500 dollars they shorted us from their incompetence. Their error was not understanding how a 401k rollover never involved a distribution of cash. I suppose if their letter to us had included a house # on the letter it might have arrived in our mailbox. That was what ticked them off. They thought we were ignoring their correspondence that never made it to our mailbox. Explain to me hero how a letter addressed to John Smith at Jones St ever finds its way to my mailbox? According to the IRS that was also my fault. :(
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old salt wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:34 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:29 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:25 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:51 am
old salt wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:31 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:46 am ...maybe Comer and Jordan can also look into this potentially catastrophic classified intell breach at the end of Orange Fatso's term
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12 ... -trump-dg/
Potentially catastrophic ? Oh my ! Sources & methods.
It may have revealed the bar where Igor Danchenko overheard the pee tape story.
... or the DoJ IG report which revealed the FBI lovebirds texts.
Your assumption that the binder is identical of Fusion GPS/Steele Dossier is laughable. It originated at CIA not FBI as well.
Keep shilling for Orange Fatso. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
That was the source & methodology of the Steele Dossier, which was the genesis & basis of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
Trump kept a binder of documents that prove the deep state shenanigans to prevent, then undermine, his Presidency.
Including the "evidence" which was used to go after Papadop & Carter Page.
:shock: surprise, surprise.
Is that what they prove?
So, why has he never shown them to the public?

That's about the most stupid, or trolling take, I've ever heard.
It has yet to be established that Trump actually has them.
Maybe this publicity will reveal them to the public. There's already a lot of leakage about what's in the binder.
If Trump does have them, maybe he's waiting to reveal them if he is reelected. ...during the purge.
:roll: :lol:
Yup, along with the proof that the 2020 election was fraudulent.

Seriously, the reporting is that the binder (a huge compendium including TS and TSCI info) contains very serious information, including human sources, that would be extremely valuable to Putin. And Not proof of anything that supported Trump's contention that the collusion concerns were a "hoax". Quite the opposite, it apparently contains the evidence that led Mueller et al, and the intel agencies, to conclude that Russia had actively supported Trump in the 2016 election.

I'm still skeptical that Trump or anyone has provided this binder to the Russians, but I do think it is probably being hidden from the FBI/DOJ because it would be so damaging, and illegal, to be found in their possession. Cassidy Hutchinson believes that Mark Meadows left the WH with the binder at the very end. Says she saw him do so. He denies it.

It's pretty clear that Trump was very consciously trying to keep various documents from being discovered, some more anxiously than others...was this batch treated with highest priority, thus not found?

I dunno, but it's pretty darn clear that if Trump had ever had proof that the collusion claims were a hoax, he'd have declassified and produced them when he had them.
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A lot of conspiracy this and that being offered. Do we know yet who the 2nd shooter was behind the grassy knoll? It's been 60 years since that conspiracy theory first took hold. The cool and groovy thing about conspiracy theories is their tendency to take on a life of their own. 8-)
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:54 am A lot of conspiracy this and that being offered. Do we know yet who the 2nd shooter was behind the grassy knoll? It's been 60 years since that conspiracy theory first took hold. The cool and groovy thing about conspiracy theories is their tendency to take on a life of their own. 8-)
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OCanada wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:58 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:54 am A lot of conspiracy this and that being offered. Do we know yet who the 2nd shooter was behind the grassy knoll? It's been 60 years since that conspiracy theory first took hold. The cool and groovy thing about conspiracy theories is their tendency to take on a life of their own. 8-)
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That is what they told us in grammar school back in the 60s I still remember the jingle that went with it. Was the government lying to us back then?? :o Maybe we needed bigger desks. Those old inkwell holes would have let radiation through.
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Rather than post the lengthy Wash Post report on Biden family corruption, I'll post Andy McCarthy's shorter summary.
Plz don't post/re-quote the entire article.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/ ... ssociates/

As Dems Panic over 2024, Washington Post Dredges Up Biden Brothers’ Ties to Corrupt Mississippi Lawyer and Associates

by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY, December 18, 2023

Sunday’s eye-popping 4,000-word Washington Post report on Biden corruption ties is, to my mind, more indication that a serious move is under way within the top ranks of the Democratic Party establishment to nudge President Joe Biden into bowing out of the 2024 presidential race.

In the past month, we’ve seen a second Hunter Biden indictment, one that extensively details the tax evasion and lavish spending by the president’s son, a story that — however much the prosecutor labored to keep the president’s name out of it — cannot obscure that Hunter and other Bidens made millions by trading on the now-president’s political influence. We’ve further seen remarks by the Obama-whisperer, David Axelrod, to the effect that President Biden should consider bowing out of his reelection bid — and then more recently adding that the president’s record-low approval rating is “very, very dark” news for his campaign. And just this weekend, we found an unidentified source “familiar with [former President Barack Obama’s] thinking” telling the Wall Street Journal that Obama knows the presidential race is going to be “close,” “feels the Democrats very well could lose,” and worries that “the alternative” — Donald Trump — “is pretty dangerous for democracy.”

This, mind you, was contemporaneous with Hunter Biden’s defying a subpoena for deposition testimony issued by two House committees, for which the House has signaled it will hold him in contempt, and with a full House vote to formally approve an impeachment investigation of the president.

The timing of the Post’s report is thus intriguing. For the president, it will sting for several reasons. First, it’s the Post, a pillar of the Democratic administration’s Praetorian Guard — this is not just more brickbats hurled by House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R., Ky.) and the other Republicans investigating Biden-family influence-peddling. Second, the subject matter of the report goes back to the start of Joe Biden’s Senate career in the early Seventies (yes, the family business goes back decades), meaning the Post has intentionally dredged up unseemly details about Biden’s past that have been vaguely known for decades but that Biden must have figured were long forgotten. Third, the length of the report shows that the Post had to have spent weeks reporting its story; the paper could have dropped this report at any time, but it chose to do so now, when the president and his campaign are reeling.

The full report is worth everyone’s time. To summarize, Joe and Jim Biden, as well as Jim’s wife, Sara, have long-standing relationships with legendary (and legendarily sleazy) plaintiff’s lawyer Richard (“Dickie”) Scruggs and his close associates in Mississippi Democratic circles, particularly Steve Patterson (a former head of the Mississippi Democratic Party and top aide to Biden’s friend and colleague, the late segregationist senator John Stennis [D., Miss.]), and a lawyer named Tim Balducci.

Scruggs, Patterson, and Balducci were eventually convicted and sentenced to federal prison in a plot to bribe a judge. At the same time that the bribery plot took place, Patterson and Balducci, with Scruggs’s encouragement, were on the verge of opening a consultancy and legal partnership with Jim and Sara Biden — the latter is a lawyer and former congressional staffer. It was contemplated that Hunter Biden would also be a participant. The partnership was scuttled by the bribery scheme. Jim Biden was secretly recorded by the FBI during the corruption investigation, but he was never implicated in the bribery scheme and was not charged — nor, apparently, was he interviewed in connection with the case.

But that’s later — around 2007–08. The beginning of the relationship goes back decades, when, through Senator Stennis, Senator Biden became acquainted with Patterson — his path, and brother Jim’s, to Mississippi Democratic Party connections, which mobilized for Joe’s short-lived presidential campaigns in 1987–88 and 2007–08.

In the early Nineties, Patterson introduced Jim Biden to Scruggs. The Post relates that Jim was hoping to work in connection with Scruggs’s highly profitable cases against asbestos manufacturers. That did not come to pass, but Jim finally scored in connection with Scruggs’s crusade against cigarette manufacturers (as the Post notes, that crusade was dramatized, with Scruggs’s help, in the 1999 movie The Insider).

Scruggs theorized that Big Tobacco was ripping off Medicare by concealing data about the addictiveness and lethality of cigarettes. He was trying to cobble together a gargantuan federal settlement that would have netted his firm over $100 million in fees. Such a settlement would call for antitrust-law waivers, so it needed congressional approval. At the time, Joe Biden was the powerful chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He was a skeptic about the settlement, publicly asserting that he was not convinced it was a good deal for the public and predicting that, without major improvements, it would go “down the tubes.”

In mid 1997, Patterson urged Scruggs to speak with Senator Biden and other naysayers. After a meeting with the senator, Scruggs calculated that he would need help winning him over. So he turned to Jim and Sara Biden, who were running a consultancy called “Lion Hall.”

Scruggs retained Lion Hall, through which he paid Jim Biden $100,000 in $10,000 installments, beginning in April 1988. In the meantime — mirabile dictu! — Senator Joe Biden went “from being one of [the tobacco settlement’s] biggest critics to becoming one of its leading defenders — a significant victory for Scruggs,” as the Post report puts it.

(For readers with a good memory, Jim and Sara maintained a Lion Hall bank account. In 2017, after Hunter pressured his partners at CEFC, an arm of the Communist Chinese regime, to pay the Bidens $5 million — warning that he was sitting with his father and that they wanted answers — Hunter took a $400,000 chunk of the haul and transferred $150,000 to Jim and Sara Biden’s Lion Hall account. From that $150,000, Sara transferred $40,000 to another account on which she wrote a $40,000 check to Joe Biden — sounds an awful lot like “ten percent for the big guy,” no? — which was described as a “loan repayment.”)

The Bidens would, of course, point out that there is no evidence they discussed the tobacco deal, that Senator Biden’s support for the deal coincided with the settlement amount’s being increased, and that the deal fell through in any event (as a result of Republican opposition). None of that alters the facts that (a) Joe Biden changed his position while the lawyer pleading with him to change his position was paying Biden’s brother $100,000, (b) that lawyer, with whom Joe Biden developed a fruitful relationship, was later convicted in an unrelated federal bribery scheme, and (c) Joe Biden’s repeated claims never to have discussed business with his brother Jim (and his son Hunter) were never plausible and have been shown to be untrue.

The Post further details that, at roughly the same time Jim and Sara Biden were receiving money from Scruggs while Scruggs was trying to influence Senator Biden, Jim and Sara were elsewhere touting that clients would profit from their connections to Senator Biden. Specifically, the law firm of Leonard Barrack filed a lawsuit alleging that Jim Biden assured the firm that if it retained Lion Hall, Jim promised to “generate business for the Barrack Law Firm through his family name and his resemblance to his brother.” (The implication is that Jim was referring to the strong physical resemblance he bears to his famous sibling, who is six years older.) The Post reports that Sara Biden countersued the Barrack firm and that the matter was “settled confidentially.” (As we’ve observed, nondisclosure agreements confidentially settling civil litigation are common and unremarkable . . . except when Donald Trump does them, in which case Democrats and the Post scorn that they are “hush-money arrangements,” which become fodder for an elected Democratic district attorney to file an indictment absurdly charging 34 felony counts of business-record falsification.)

Despite the failure to reach a federal tobacco settlement, Scruggs hit the jackpot by cutting separate deals with the states. The combined $248 billion settlement netted his firm over $300 million in fees. Scruggs maintained his close ties to the Bidens, hosting Joe at the iconic Grove and then in a skybox for an Ole Miss football game; flying Joe on his private jet to a fundraiser in Jackson in 2000; and in 2007, helping launch Joe’s bid for the Democratic nomination — Joe did a talk about his just-released memoir at a bookstore around the corner from Scruggs’s law office in Oxford, Miss., and then a fundraiser at the nearby University Club.

In the interim, Jim Biden began talks about a new consulting and law firm that he and his wife hoped to start together with Scruggs’s two close associates: Patterson (who had had to resign as a state auditor in 1996 after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor tax charge) and Balducci. The firm was to be known as Patterson, Balducci & Biden PLLC Law Group. As a 24-page promotional booklet explained, Sara Biden was the named partner because she’s a lawyer (Jim is not), but besides noting her Washington background, the marketing materials took pains to add, “In 1995, Sara married Jim Biden, brother of Senator Joe Biden (D) Delaware.”

Alas, simultaneously with the preparation to launch the firm, Jim and Sara Biden’s partners bribed a judge. The scheme drew an FBI probe, resulting in some recordings of Jim Biden (which do not evince knowledge of the bribery scheme on Jim’s part).

So let’s get to these gory details. Scruggs had a big case in front of Mississippi judge Henry Lackey, in which his firm stood to rake in $26.5 million in fees if successful. Balducci floated to the judge the idea that, after Judge Lackey retired, Balducci could hire him as “of counsel” to his firm. Lackey understandably believed this was an attempt to bribe him, so he reported Balducci’s offer to the FBI and federal prosecutors. The FBI opened an investigation and got wiretap coverage on Balducci’s phone.

Around the same time in 2007 (i.e., five weeks after Joe Biden’s above-described presidential campaign fundraiser in Oxford), Jim and Balducci discussed the imminent creation of their firm. Later that day, Balducci met Judge Lackey and, not knowing Lackey was a covert FBI informant, handed him the first of two envelopes containing $20,000 in cash.

After passing the envelope, Balducci went right to Scruggs’s office, where the pair discussed, among other things, the formation of Balducci’s and Patterson’s new firm with the Bidens. Scruggs was told the firm would not only have Sara Biden as a named partner but would also feature the involvement of both Jim and Hunter Biden. Subsequently, in a phone call recorded by the FBI, Balducci reported to Jim Biden regarding his discussion with Scruggs about the new firm. After detailing for Jim how he’d told Scruggs, “we had formalized our relationship with you guys,” and that “Hunter was going to be involved and you [Jim] were going to be involved,” Balducci related Scruggs’s reaction: “With the political connections you guys are putting together now, I know you’re going to do really, really well.” Later the same day, Jim Biden reported that he, too, had had a “great conversation” with Scruggs, who’d opined, “I think you can make a lot of money.”

On the verge of the firm’s being publicly announced, the FBI braced Balducci about paying off Judge Lackey. Balducci quickly agreed to turn, becoming a Bureau informant. He wore a wire for the government on visits to Scruggs’s office, recording their conversations. Not long afterward, the FBI executed a search warrant at Scruggs’s office, seizing computer hard drives. Scruggs and his son, Zach, turned themselves in to federal authorities the following day.

Dickie Scruggs served five years in federal prison. Patterson, Balducci, and Zach Scruggs were also convicted on various charges and did jail time. Jim Biden was not accused of wrongdoing and, the Post says, was never questioned by the government in connection with the case. Not long after the arrests, Democrats nominated Senator Joe Biden to run as presidential nominee Barack Obama’s vice president.

I imagine that the House impeachment investigators will be interested in the Bidens’ dealings with Scruggs and his associates. More intriguing, I think, is why the Post published it now. Maybe the paper was just waiting for House investigators to leave town for a four-week vacation. Or maybe it decided this was a propitious time to add to media-Democrat-complex alarm regarding President Biden’s 2024 prospects.
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old salt wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:23 pm ......... in 1987–88 and 2007–08.

.......In mid 1997........ beginning in April 1988.

........in 2000; and in 2007,........ in 1996........

......Around the same time in 2007 ......
Did Bill Barr kick your dogs, or something?

All that criminal activity by Joe Biden for DECADES, and good ol' Bill let it alllll slide, and didn't open a case on your "Biden Family Corruption'.

For shame. Tsk, tsk.

Bill's gonna take you of his Xmas card list, fer sure. Had no idea you hated the man this much.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:08 am
OCanada wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:58 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:54 am A lot of conspiracy this and that being offered. Do we know yet who the 2nd shooter was behind the grassy knoll? It's been 60 years since that conspiracy theory first took hold. The cool and groovy thing about conspiracy theories is their tendency to take on a life of their own. 8-)
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That is what they told us in grammar school back in the 60s I still remember the jingle that went with it. Was the government lying to us back then?? :o Maybe we needed bigger desks. Those old inkwell holes would have let radiation through.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ... they didn't tell you to get under the desk because it would protect you from radiation.
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:41 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:08 am
OCanada wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:58 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:54 am A lot of conspiracy this and that being offered. Do we know yet who the 2nd shooter was behind the grassy knoll? It's been 60 years since that conspiracy theory first took hold. The cool and groovy thing about conspiracy theories is their tendency to take on a life of their own. 8-)
Duck and cover. Get under that desk it will save you
That is what they told us in grammar school back in the 60s I still remember the jingle that went with it. Was the government lying to us back then?? :o Maybe we needed bigger desks. Those old inkwell holes would have let radiation through.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ... they didn't tell you to get under the desk because it would protect you from radiation.
Excuse me for embellishing a bit. :D
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a fan wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:50 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:23 pm ......... in 1987–88 and 2007–08.

.......In mid 1997........ beginning in April 1988.

........in 2000; and in 2007,........ in 1996........

......Around the same time in 2007 ......
Did Bill Barr kick your dogs, or something?

All that criminal activity by Joe Biden for DECADES, and good ol' Bill let it alllll slide, and didn't open a case on your "Biden Family Corruption'.

For shame. Tsk, tsk.

Bill's gonna take you of his Xmas card list, fer sure. Had no idea you hated the man this much.
You miss the point, as usual, playing your dumb team sport game.
It's a Wash Post report for the Wash Post readership ...about the Biden family grift. :shock:
Not necessarily illegal or criminal, but unethical & sleazy, like all the stuff we heard about Trump.
...except Trump was working his grift in the private sector. Buyer beware - his patsies were not forced to pay for it.
The Biden's were trading on Joe's govt power as an elected Senator with access to your taxpayer $$$ & influence on war & peace.
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old salt wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:23 am You miss the point, as usual, playing your dumb team sport game.
You are certainly an expert on playing dumb games around here. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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