Israel and West Bank Settlements

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jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:06 pm We will see if Israel takes the "win" or keeps pushing. The missile defense was pretty impressive, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that was all Israel. US Navy was apparently knocking down significant numbers that overloaded Israeli system.
Expensive.

“In April, a former financial adviser to the IDF chief of staff said that an Arrow missile typically costs $3.5m (£2.8m) a time, and David’s Sling interceptors $1m (£800,000). Eliminating 100 or more missiles would easily run into hundreds of millions of dollars – though the missiles themselves will have cost Iran £80,000 each or more.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... e-defences
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The Saudis are thrilled….it’s a time for them to shine, will they?
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:17 pm The Saudis are thrilled….it’s a time for them to shine, will they?
MBS is on the record that there will be no normalization of relations between the kingdom and Israel until progress is made on a two-state solution.
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:06 pm We will see if Israel takes the "win" or keeps pushing. The missile defense was pretty impressive, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that was all Israel. US Navy was apparently knocking down significant numbers that overloaded Israeli system.
Reportedly 2 x USN DDG's in the E Med only had to expend 12 SM-3 missiles

Less action for USN than last Fri in the Red Sea.
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Any connection, or unintended consequnces:

~Biden rescinded Trump sanctions on Iran in 2021
~Biden relinquished 16 Billion to Iran, that we were told would be monitored, and has not.
~Iran backed militant grups ramp up their presence, and pull the trigger on 07 OCT 2023
~Israel retaliates
~We attempt aide to Palestine, water bridge, etc, which is an epic failure
~Iran starts getting involved
~Now today, Biden is working on re-introducing sanctions.

And we had SoS telling us at the time the Iran Money was being monitored by Treasury, and now is telling us, well not so much anymore.

https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony- ... an%20hands.
" None of the funds that have now gone to Qatar have actually been spent or accessed in any way by Iran. Indeed, funds from that account are overseen by the Treasury Department, can only be dispensed for humanitarian goods – food, medicine, medical equipment – and never touch Iranian hands. We have strict oversight of the funds, and we retain the right to freeze them. "

It seems like a game in semantics, we say we are giving them their money back, which we were, then articulate to the world that the US Treasury will be monitoring it, and pray the sh(t doesn't hit the fan?...Until it does. While also saying Iran will always use money to fund terrorism. Cognitive dissonance by our government?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWziIH-7vw
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Strange how the Iranian attack seems to have been "matched" roughly to Israel's defensive system's capability -- to within 10%. The US could clean up the overflow easily. Don't think this was a coincidence.
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jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:09 pm Strange how the Iranian attack seems to have been "matched" roughly to Israel's defensive system's capability -- to within 10%. The US could clean up the overflow easily. Don't think this was a coincidence.
Some expensive posturing.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:20 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:09 pm Strange how the Iranian attack seems to have been "matched" roughly to Israel's defensive system's capability -- to within 10%. The US could clean up the overflow easily. Don't think this was a coincidence.
Some expensive posturing.
... that's my take. Iran wants relations with the US to normalize. Killing a bunch of innocents isn't going to help that cause. Doing nothing loses face in the neighborhood. Expensive light show, but apparently that's all it was meant to be. US kept it from being more. Which should be understood by Bibi.
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jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:39 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:20 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:09 pm Strange how the Iranian attack seems to have been "matched" roughly to Israel's defensive system's capability -- to within 10%. The US could clean up the overflow easily. Don't think this was a coincidence.
Some expensive posturing.
... that's my take. Iran wants relations with the US to normalize. Killing a bunch of innocents isn't going to help that cause. Doing nothing loses face in the neighborhood. Expensive light show, but apparently that's all it was meant to be. US kept it from being more. Which should be understood by Bibi.
I'm not really interested in paying for it...
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:01 pm Any connection, or unintended consequnces:

~Biden rescinded Trump sanctions on Iran in 2021
~Biden relinquished 16 Billion to Iran, that we were told would be monitored, and has not.
~Iran backed militant grups ramp up their presence, and pull the trigger on 07 OCT 2023
~Israel retaliates
~We attempt aide to Palestine, water bridge, etc, which is an epic failure
~Iran starts getting involved
~Now today, Biden is working on re-introducing sanctions.

And we had SoS telling us at the time the Iran Money was being monitored by Treasury, and now is telling us, well not so much anymore.

https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony- ... an%20hands.
" None of the funds that have now gone to Qatar have actually been spent or accessed in any way by Iran. Indeed, funds from that account are overseen by the Treasury Department, can only be dispensed for humanitarian goods – food, medicine, medical equipment – and never touch Iranian hands. We have strict oversight of the funds, and we retain the right to freeze them. "

It seems like a game in semantics, we say we are giving them their money back, which we were, then articulate to the world that the US Treasury will be monitoring it, and pray the sh(t doesn't hit the fan?...Until it does. While also saying Iran will always use money to fund terrorism. Cognitive dissonance by our government?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWziIH-7vw
How many ballistic missiles does 16 billion dollars buy? Why would the USA give 10 cents to Iran? Kamala wants to get tough on Iran. She may force gold bullion down their throats. :roll:
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jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:39 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:20 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:09 pm Strange how the Iranian attack seems to have been "matched" roughly to Israel's defensive system's capability -- to within 10%. The US could clean up the overflow easily. Don't think this was a coincidence.
Some expensive posturing.
... that's my take. Iran wants relations with the US to normalize. Killing a bunch of innocents isn't going to help that cause. Doing nothing loses face in the neighborhood. Expensive light show, but apparently that's all it was meant to be. US kept it from being more. Which should be understood by Bibi.
Normalize beyond lifting sanctions 3 years ago and returning all their 16billion. What more do we need to do?
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A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy


“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
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