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Re: media matters

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:19 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:40 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:03 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:53 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:41 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:43 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:08 pm I think the assumption is that many Democrats would certainly try to suppress speech if given the chance.
Yes, that's the FoxNews sales pitch.

And American conservatives....our current Republican party...would never do such a thing. Is that it?

Did you just move to America five minutes ago, Pete, and only read the brochure?
I have no doubt there exist some Republicans who would pull the plug on MSNBC if given the chance. But to compare a few of those with entire Democratic movements dedicated to shutting down Fox (or Rogan, or Newsmax, etc) is apples and watermelons. I can name significantly funded Democratic entities whose sole purpose is to shut down speech. Media Matters is one such example.
Yeah, sorry man, you're being silly. American Conservatives (Republicans, currently) are 1000% times worse on this count, and have stuck it to their fellow Americans trying to live their lives for generations.

"You stop doing it first", is my answer to complaints from your team about financially punishing Americans for their views/race/sex/religion/etc.

Rogan, to his credit, understands that's he not some comic only a few people have heard of anymore. 10 million customers comes with some strings....and a bit of care is needed when you're talking about medical stuff.

If you're going to ask boycotters to be considerate, and use their power wisely? Not too much to ask Rogan to take the same care with the power that he has.


Dude,..

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/617827/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-will- ... 1617813301

https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/how-liber ... ee-speech/

https://www.city-journal.org/html/liber ... 14330.html

I cou!d list a billion of these, but this entire book by a Democrat will explain why you are wildly wrong:

https://www.amazon.com/Silencing-Left-K ... 1621573702
Oh, I don't disagree that THEY are doing that----and that it's irony set at 11. It's just that your team never stopped doing it!

Here's how you take the high ground: next time someone kneels during the Anthem? You don't just ignore it........you CELEBRATE it.

Do that, all across FoxNation......invite Meghan Rapinoe on, and Kaepernick on, and say "hey, I'm behind your free speech....why did you kneel, what's your issue with America?"


Remember those marchers for BLM? The peaceful ones? Did you listen to them? Encourage their peaceful work? Have a listen to why they're so upset? That confused the heck out of me, if you'll recall. Here you had thousands of Black Americans telling you that their Dem-run government is broken. I have NO IDEA why you didn't embrace them, and say "welcome to the team...how can I help?"

As I said before: YOU stop doing this first. Until then? All you're doing is saying "do as I say, not as I do".
A lot of what you say, I totally agree with.
Imagine that? That's what happens when you turn the troll down. Let's call it a good day!


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Re: media matters

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:05 pm
by admin
jhu72 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:13 pm... what nonsense. You don't have a clue dumbass, just pulling it out of your dumbass.
jhu72 (and all), no personal attacks...

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:57 am
by old salt
DMac wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:20 pm ...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs
...try this. (RIP Meatloaf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEIcdYOuHo

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:46 am
by jhu72

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:11 am
by runrussellrun
Why can't the "scienti$ts" focus on presenting theraputics, weight loss and fitness help, etc. to help survive covid. That would be a more positive outlook.

The most important thing , about the covid issue, is missing information.......not mis-information.

we know science is slow, unless it is for weapons to kill people.....not help them. We can make remote controlled drones , just can't figure out how to make a facemask, here in the USA.

f'ing stock market.......we need a "jesus" type to knock the table over....don't we ;)

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:13 am
by jhu72
Another musical group desserts Spotify over COVID misinformation.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:15 am
by DMac
old salt wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:57 am
DMac wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:20 pm ...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs
...try this. (RIP Meatloaf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEIcdYOuHo
Wow, just fantastic!!
Thanks for posting.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:18 am
by runrussellrun
is claiming that covid "vaccines" work at preventing covid, mis-information, or outright fraud ?

You are the 27th Maryland resident, fully "vaccinated" & boosted....that actually got sick, with covid, that we have counted.

FDA application for pfizer, claimed 95% prevention effectiveness. Seems like fraud to me. But, of course it is. It is trumpU's "vaccine"

the original mRNA applications did NOT mention "reduced" or "less severe" outcomes. Fraud. prove us wrong?

remember........ALL jabs, going forward, have legal immunity for bad outcomes. Fact. So, just take it.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:21 am
by jhu72
DMac wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:15 am
old salt wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:57 am
DMac wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:20 pm ...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs
...try this. (RIP Meatloaf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEIcdYOuHo
Wow, just fantastic!!
Thanks for posting.
...more mellow than MeatLoaf.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:22 am
by tech37
From Glenn Greenwald's feed, here's the "paradox" mentioned couple days ago. It's an old article but "rust never sleeps." Hope the woke cancelers don't find out about this...what will they do?

The good, the bad and the Shakey

If you love Neil Young, you have to learn to turn an indulgent eye on the trashy music and trashier comments. Xan Brooks explains how he's come to terms with being a true fan

Politically-speaking, its hard to exorcise the ghost of his 1980s pronouncements, when he swung hard-right behind the Reagan presidency and lashed out at gays ("you go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the F 'ing cash register, you don't want him to handle your potatoes") and welfare spongers. "Stop being supported by the government and get out and work," Neil advised. "You have to make the weak stand up on one leg, or half a leg, whatever they've got."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/ ... .neilyoung

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:26 am
by DMac
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:21 am
DMac wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:15 am
old salt wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:57 am
DMac wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:20 pm ...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs
...try this. (RIP Meatloaf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEIcdYOuHo
Wow, just fantastic!!
Thanks for posting.
...more mellow than MeatLoaf.
Just a titch, eh?
He did quite a job with that, outstanding rendition.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:26 am
by Farfromgeneva
We should totally ban Jack Kerouac books too because he became a mean alcoholic who was bitter and angry at the world before drinking himself to death.

Then go back to character Assassinations of women who are sexually abuse by powerful people to prove something but I’m not sure what.

Cat Stevens? Total hypocrite POS-his music is in conglomerate industrial business commercials now!

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 am
by runrussellrun
tech37 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:22 am From Glenn Greenwald's feed, here's the "paradox" mentioned couple days ago. It's an old article but "rust never sleeps." Hope the woke cancelers don't find out about this...what will they do?

The good, the bad and the Shakey

If you love Neil Young, you have to learn to turn an indulgent eye on the trashy music and trashier comments. Xan Brooks explains how he's come to terms with being a true fan

Politically-speaking, its hard to exorcise the ghost of his 1980s pronouncements, when he swung hard-right behind the Reagan presidency and lashed out at gays ("you go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the F 'ing cash register, you don't want him to handle your potatoes") and welfare spongers. "Stop being supported by the government and get out and work," Neil advised. "You have to make the weak stand up on one leg, or half a leg, whatever they've got."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/ ... .neilyoung
only trumps past matters...........

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:29 am
by tech37
Hypocrisy reigns. More egg-foo-young for Kismet

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:37 am
by jhu72
tech37 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:22 am From Glenn Greenwald's feed, here's the "paradox" mentioned couple days ago. It's an old article but "rust never sleeps." Hope the woke cancelers don't find out about this...what will they do?

The good, the bad and the Shakey

If you love Neil Young, you have to learn to turn an indulgent eye on the trashy music and trashier comments. Xan Brooks explains how he's come to terms with being a true fan

Politically-speaking, its hard to exorcise the ghost of his 1980s pronouncements, when he swung hard-right behind the Reagan presidency and lashed out at gays ("you go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the F 'ing cash register, you don't want him to handle your potatoes") and welfare spongers. "Stop being supported by the government and get out and work," Neil advised. "You have to make the weak stand up on one leg, or half a leg, whatever they've got."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/ ... .neilyoung
.... guess it doesn't apply to me. I am not "a true" Neil Young fan. Like a few things he has done but don't worship the guy. He has his right to his opinion, even if I don't agree with it.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:45 am
by jhu72
DMac wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:26 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:21 am
DMac wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:15 am
old salt wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:57 am
DMac wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:20 pm ...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs
...try this. (RIP Meatloaf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEIcdYOuHo
Wow, just fantastic!!
Thanks for posting.
...more mellow than MeatLoaf.
Just a titch, eh?
He did quite a job with that, outstanding rendition.
yup

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:45 am
by runrussellrun
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:37 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:22 am From Glenn Greenwald's feed, here's the "paradox" mentioned couple days ago. It's an old article but "rust never sleeps." Hope the woke cancelers don't find out about this...what will they do?

The good, the bad and the Shakey

If you love Neil Young, you have to learn to turn an indulgent eye on the trashy music and trashier comments. Xan Brooks explains how he's come to terms with being a true fan

Politically-speaking, its hard to exorcise the ghost of his 1980s pronouncements, when he swung hard-right behind the Reagan presidency and lashed out at gays ("you go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the F 'ing cash register, you don't want him to handle your potatoes") and welfare spongers. "Stop being supported by the government and get out and work," Neil advised. "You have to make the weak stand up on one leg, or half a leg, whatever they've got."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/ ... .neilyoung
.... guess it doesn't apply to me. I am not "a true" Neil Young fan. Like a few things he has done but don't worship the guy. He has his right to his opinion, even if I don't agree with it.
What does being a fan, or not, have to do with Neils hateful comments?

btw: do "warnings" have a time limit :lol: :lol: :lol: of course not.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:55 am
by jhu72
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:45 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:37 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:22 am From Glenn Greenwald's feed, here's the "paradox" mentioned couple days ago. It's an old article but "rust never sleeps." Hope the woke cancelers don't find out about this...what will they do?

The good, the bad and the Shakey

If you love Neil Young, you have to learn to turn an indulgent eye on the trashy music and trashier comments. Xan Brooks explains how he's come to terms with being a true fan

Politically-speaking, its hard to exorcise the ghost of his 1980s pronouncements, when he swung hard-right behind the Reagan presidency and lashed out at gays ("you go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the F 'ing cash register, you don't want him to handle your potatoes") and welfare spongers. "Stop being supported by the government and get out and work," Neil advised. "You have to make the weak stand up on one leg, or half a leg, whatever they've got."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/ ... .neilyoung
.... guess it doesn't apply to me. I am not "a true" Neil Young fan. Like a few things he has done but don't worship the guy. He has his right to his opinion, even if I don't agree with it.
What does being a fan, or not, have to do with Neils hateful comments?

btw: do "warnings" have a time limit :lol: :lol: :lol: of course not.
... does dumbass-ness have a time limit??

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:06 am
by runrussellrun
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:55 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:45 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:37 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:22 am From Glenn Greenwald's feed, here's the "paradox" mentioned couple days ago. It's an old article but "rust never sleeps." Hope the woke cancelers don't find out about this...what will they do?

The good, the bad and the Shakey

If you love Neil Young, you have to learn to turn an indulgent eye on the trashy music and trashier comments. Xan Brooks explains how he's come to terms with being a true fan

Politically-speaking, its hard to exorcise the ghost of his 1980s pronouncements, when he swung hard-right behind the Reagan presidency and lashed out at gays ("you go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the F 'ing cash register, you don't want him to handle your potatoes") and welfare spongers. "Stop being supported by the government and get out and work," Neil advised. "You have to make the weak stand up on one leg, or half a leg, whatever they've got."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/ ... .neilyoung
.... guess it doesn't apply to me. I am not "a true" Neil Young fan. Like a few things he has done but don't worship the guy. He has his right to his opinion, even if I don't agree with it.
What does being a fan, or not, have to do with Neils hateful comments?

btw: do "warnings" have a time limit :lol: :lol: :lol: of course not.
... does dumbass-ness have a time limit??
Is this directed at a person, as in , a personal attack?

Of course, we view it as a vague, catch all, generalization towards ignorants......not a personnal attack.

no need to worry, you will be fine. Even tho, you were warned....it doesn't stop you.

such a principled place..........

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:14 am
by jhu72
English is a rich language.