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Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 5:29 pm
by jrn19
Or they could have won one (1) game against Hopkins, Penn State, or Maryland twice and they’d have been in the tournament. Or just not lost to Ohio State. Just win your games.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 6:24 pm
by BigTom5
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
Why? They’ve lost five of their last six games, no one needs to see them lose another. Would be bad television.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 6:25 pm
by MoralTerpitude
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
All of those teams miss the NCAA tournament if they don't win their conference tournament (including Army).

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 7:34 pm
by lorin
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 6:25 pm
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
All of those teams miss the NCAA tournament if they don't win their conference tournament (including Army).
Rutgers your back to normal, Covid and transfers are over,

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 7:36 pm
by lorin
lorin wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 7:34 pm
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 6:25 pm
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
All of those teams miss the NCAA tournament if they don't win their conference tournament (including Army).
Rutgers your back to normal, Covid and transfers are over,
Army had starters out also, cry babies

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:19 pm
by 1766
lorin wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 7:34 pm
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 6:25 pm
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
All of those teams miss the NCAA tournament if they don't win their conference tournament (including Army).
Rutgers your back to normal, Covid and transfers are over,
Who did Army have out?

And no, transfers definitely aren't over. Too bad for you.

You must really hate Georgetown and ND. Better not follow portal activity this year. It's going to be all time.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:48 pm
by lorin
1766 wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 8:19 pm
lorin wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 7:34 pm
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 6:25 pm
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
All of those teams miss the NCAA tournament if they don't win their conference tournament (including Army).
Rutgers your back to normal, Covid and transfers are over,
Who did Army have out?

And no, transfers definitely aren't over. Too bad for you.

You must really hate Georgetown and ND. Better not follow portal activity this year. It's going to be all time.
Starting attack kid and starting D out for your game, but we just say next man up on team. U guys cry like little school girls about everything, man up u sucked this year own it.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:52 pm
by 1766
Sounds like you are crying now.

Sucked? We played our worst game and lost to Army by one, beat your Loyola and 4 tournament teams. Considering we made the FF last year, I guess by those standards sure.

Let me know when Army gets that far. Even with all of those unlimited recruits and 5th years. What's the problem there?

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 10:51 am
by The real beast
1766 wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 8:52 pm Sounds like you are crying now.

Sucked? We played our worst game and lost to Army by one, beat your Loyola and 4 tournament teams. Considering we made the FF last year, I guess by those standards sure.

Let me know when Army gets that far. Even with all of those unlimited recruits and 5th years. What's the problem there?
Who are the four tournament teams? Utah, Princeton, Michigan and?

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:12 am
by laxguywm
Marist ?

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:30 am
by Njlaxx11
i'm not sure why so many trolls come in here to bash rutgers. they're not doing anything any differently then any other d1 team out there.

brecht needs to improve his high school recruiting. he's gotten good players from the portal but needs to get better incoming classes for more then a year's worth of production.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:01 pm
by 1766
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 11:30 am i'm not sure why so many trolls come in here to bash rutgers. they're not doing anything any differently then any other d1 team out there.

brecht needs to improve his high school recruiting. he's gotten good players from the portal but needs to get better incoming classes for more then a year's worth of production.

He has the best HS classes coming in that he has had. The staff is very excited about what is coming. The portal is recruiting though. The same people up in arms about it, *lorin, don't seem to have issues with any other team doing, which is pretty much all of them who can. Zero chance ND or Georgetown are where they are without portal guys. Duke has portal guys. UVa's best middie is a portal guy.

They seems jealous Brecht figured it out the fastest or that their own schools can't do it, like Army. However, Army is stacked with guys who have PG'd and they have zero limitations on scholarship limits. So they have advantages no other schools have outside of other academies. Good for them I say. Question is why can't they get to a final four?

Re: Rutgers 2024

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:20 pm
by 1766
Time to turn the page on 23.

Portal activity is going to be sky high this week. With what is coming back, I'd expect another defenseman to be targeted, an attackman, and both offensive and defensive midfielders.

There are a couple of guys who have decisions to make on the current roster as to whether or not they will use their Covid year. I don't expect all to, or that the staff wants all to, but some will be back. It will be interesting to see who they are.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:33 pm
by RURICK
lorin wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 7:34 pm
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 6:25 pm
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
All of those teams miss the NCAA tournament if they don't win their conference tournament (including Army).
Rutgers your back to normal, Covid and transfers are over,
And Rutgers is back to be treated like a lower class citizen in the lacrosse world. Now that Michigan is now #8 and Princeton is #10 in the final poll before the NCAA tourney, will Rutgers wins over both teams early in the season, when both were top ten, be reinstated as top ten wins ? I really doubt it. Granted that, in retrospect, if we could have beaten Maryland in the Big tourney, Rutgers would probably be in the tourney. However, up until the last poll, Rutgers , here on Inside lacrosse, was said to have NO TOP TEN WINS. It is ridiculous and Rutgers got screwed once again out of the tourney. Can't wait to hear Rutgers' deniers rationalize what just happened. Maybe Moral Terpitude and livelovelax can explain, lol.

Re: Rutgers 2024

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:34 pm
by RURICK
Top ten wins are the primary factor in determining who gets in the tourney.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:39 pm
by rolldodge
RURICK wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 12:33 pm
lorin wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 7:34 pm
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 6:25 pm
livelovelax wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:04 pm Rutgers beat four teams that won their conference tournament, Michigan, Utah, Princeton and Marist. And only lost to Army by one with two starters out.

NCAA Tournament needs to expand to 24.
All of those teams miss the NCAA tournament if they don't win their conference tournament (including Army).
Rutgers your back to normal, Covid and transfers are over,
And Rutgers is back to be treated like a lower class citizen in the lacrosse world. Now that Michigan is now #8 and Princeton is #10 in the final poll before the NCAA tourney, will Rutgers wins over both teams early in the season, when both were top ten, be reinstated as top ten wins ? I really doubt it. Granted that, in retrospect, if we could have beaten Maryland in the Big tourney, Rutgers would probably be in the tourney. However, up until the last poll, Rutgers , here on Inside lacrosse, was said to have NO TOP TEN WINS. It is ridiculous and Rutgers got screwed once again out of the tourney. Can't wait to hear Rutgers' deniers rationalize what just happened. Maybe Moral Terpitude and livelovelax can explain, lol.
Top 5, Top 10, Top 20 wins are based on RPI at the end of the season. That goes for all teams, Rutgers is no exception. Rightly or wrongly, that's how it works. Rutgers would have had a better shot had they beaten Maryland, but they generally were not considered to be in the picture based on the criteria as it stands.

Re: Rutgers 2024

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:41 pm
by RURICK
RURICK wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 12:34 pm Top ten wins are the primary factor in determining who gets in the tourney.
I would love to hear from Lorin, Big Tom 5 , etc. for their response. What a freaking joke.

Re: Rutgers 2023

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:49 pm
by jersey shore lax
1766 wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 8:52 pm Sounds like you are crying now.

Sucked? We played our worst game and lost to Army by one, beat your Loyola and 4 tournament teams. Considering we made the FF last year, I guess by those standards sure.

Let me know when Army gets that far. Even with all of those unlimited recruits and 5th years. What's the problem there?
Waze took me in the wrong direction and I ended up on the Rutgers thread, not sure why I am here but I did read this and laughed. ( unlimited recruits and 5th years ) as if any one of the young men are going to USMA becuase of lacrosse, they are there for an education and to serve our Country.

Go Army, beat Rutgers.

Re: Rutgers 2024

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 1:46 pm
by HopFan16
RURICK wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 12:34 pm Top ten wins are the primary factor in determining who gets in the tourney.
Yes and Rutgers had zero. They had four chances (Hop, PSU, MD x2). As rolldodge said, wins are based on RPI, not the media poll. The poll is utterly meaningless when it comes to tournament selection.

Re: Rutgers 2024

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 1:58 pm
by Farfromgeneva
HopFan16 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 1:46 pm
RURICK wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 12:34 pm Top ten wins are the primary factor in determining who gets in the tourney.
Yes and Rutgers had zero. They had four chances (Hop, PSU, MD x2). As rolldodge said, wins are based on RPI, not the media poll. The poll is utterly meaningless when it comes to tournament selection.
No you don’t get it we’re all haters and jerks when we try to explain the system to certain folks. Point in time rankings before season end, selection process, basic balance sheet math, etc.