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Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:32 am One point I need to make, and it involves a semi-apology.

I have learned much more this morning about Antifa. It appears as if Antifa is in fact the paramilitary wing of the party known as Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), not really the Democratic Party.

The problem for many (including me) is the DSA is now aligned with the Democratic Party and many well-known DSA folks are active inside the Democratic Party: AOC and Rashida Talib, not to mention Bernie. John Conyers and Ron Dellums were active DSA.

https://twitter.com/AsraNomani/status/1 ... 47941?s=20

This is a terrorist organization; if you don't want to watch videos of what they are doing on the streets, fine, just don't come back and say they aren't when that is precisely what they are. They are using walkie talkies, not phones, and have grown very sophisticated moving supplies to cause the maximum chaos. Their goal is to subvert America; nitwits like Joe Biden who seek to raise money to bail out the DSA thugs play right into their hands.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:59 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:56 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:23 am What a revealing page of posts.

Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad
6x6
Brooklyn
et al...

All know cops but wouldn't want their sisters to date one.

Cops are Alcoholic power hungry failures unable to do anything else with their lives.

Illiterate Fascists with a badge.

I can hear you all chuckling under your breath at cocktail parties when someone mentions "first responders."

Um, six------do you not know who 6x6 is?

Pretty sure the man "knows" a few policemen.....

Notwithstanding "who" he is (which is entirely irrelevant), what he posts is up for 6 to comment on. I don't think I have seen a post by 6x6, so I have no idea if he is like the others. What I would say is 6ft is corrcet in the posts that have been written here by the usual Democratic suspects basically saying cops are worthless. Do you not see that?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:57 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:17 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:56 am
The police are calm about the whole situation, the 'agent' gets increasingly hostile, making a bad situation worse. No one commenting here knows anything about the underlying situation.

Aaaaaaand Pete is right back to "waiting for more information before passing judgement" on a situation.

Neat. Wonder how long this will last? 10 seconds? 30?


Pete, If I didn't know any better, I'd say that you presume guilt when you think they might be Dems, and presume innocence when you think the might be Republicans.

Naaaaah. You'd never do that, right?

What does Dem/Rep have anything to do with two cops and an FBI agent?

I honestly have no idea what to make of this scene. Unlike most, I don't naturally assume color on the part of those who comment. I am guessing that you do? Is that the narrative here,. that two white cops arrest a black FBO agent because he's black? Kind of hard for me to pick a winner in this non-fight. Everything ended calmly...you're outraged by the video?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:59 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:56 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:23 am What a revealing page of posts.

Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad
6x6
Brooklyn
et al...

All know cops but wouldn't want their sisters to date one.

Cops are Alcoholic power hungry failures unable to do anything else with their lives.

Illiterate Fascists with a badge.

I can hear you all chuckling under your breath at cocktail parties when someone mentions "first responders."

Um, six------do you not know who 6x6 is?

Pretty sure the man "knows" a few policemen.....

Notwithstanding "who" he is (which is entirely irrelevant), what he posts is up for 6 to comment on. I don't think I have seen a post by 6x6, so I have no idea if he is like the others. What I would say is 6ft is corrcet in the posts that have been written here by the usual Democratic suspects basically saying cops are worthless. Do you not see that?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:01 pm a fan joining Brook in the desired Democratic spin tin hat foil conspiracy lunacy...no one is from here and it could be white supremacists we just can't be sure... Your eyes are lying, boys (in this case anyway)

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:04 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:57 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:17 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:56 am
The police are calm about the whole situation, the 'agent' gets increasingly hostile, making a bad situation worse. No one commenting here knows anything about the underlying situation.

Aaaaaaand Pete is right back to "waiting for more information before passing judgement" on a situation.

Neat. Wonder how long this will last? 10 seconds? 30?


Pete, If I didn't know any better, I'd say that you presume guilt when you think they might be Dems, and presume innocence when you think the might be Republicans.

Naaaaah. You'd never do that, right?

What does Dem/Rep have anything to do with two cops and an FBI agent?

I honestly have no idea what to make of this scene. Unlike most, I don't naturally assume color on the part of those who comment. I am guessing that you do? Is that the narrative here,. that two white cops arrest a black FBO agent because he's black? Kind of hard for me to pick a winner in this non-fight. Everything ended calmly...you're outraged by the video?

I didn't make one single comment about the video. I only commented about you, Pete.

Before these events started, you were lecturing other posters about jumping to conclusions based on quick media reporting, or glancing at a photograph, or watching a quick video. Duke lax case. UVa fraternity story, Covington Catholic video, etc....

And now that cities are on fire, you start doing the EXACT THING you've been lecturing us about------watching clips or, worse, seeing nonsense on social media-----and IMMEDIATELY jumping to every conclusion in the book.

Either heed your own advice, and wait for things to simmer down so we can sort out what has happened......or stop lecturing other posters about forming opinions with faulty and/or limited facts. Pick one.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:03 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:59 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:56 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:23 am What a revealing page of posts.

Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad
6x6
Brooklyn
et al...

All know cops but wouldn't want their sisters to date one.

Cops are Alcoholic power hungry failures unable to do anything else with their lives.

Illiterate Fascists with a badge.

I can hear you all chuckling under your breath at cocktail parties when someone mentions "first responders."

Um, six------do you not know who 6x6 is?

Pretty sure the man "knows" a few policemen.....

Notwithstanding "who" he is (which is entirely irrelevant), what he posts is up for 6 to comment on. I don't think I have seen a post by 6x6, so I have no idea if he is like the others. What I would say is 6ft is corrcet in the posts that have been written here by the usual Democratic suspects basically saying cops are worthless. Do you not see that?

Except I’m not a democrat. Been a registered Rep for quite a while. So you are making a incorrect statement once again. Just wrong. And my words were literal actual stories and experiences. Not just searching for links to throw against a wall and hope some stick

Just keep my username out of your mouth

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:04 pm
I didn't make one single comment about the video. I only commented about you, Pete.

Before these events started, you were lecturing other posters about jumping to conclusions based on quick media reporting, or glancing at a photograph, or watching a quick video. Duke lax case. UVa fraternity story, Covington Catholic video, etc....

And now that cities are on fire, you start doing the EXACT THING you've been lecturing us about------watching clips or, worse, seeing nonsense on social media-----and IMMEDIATELY jumping to every conclusion in the book.

Either heed your own advice, and wait for things to simmer down so we can sort out what has happened......or stop lecturing other posters about forming opinions with faulty and/or limited facts. Pick one.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:10 pm

What I didn’t mean is you don’t need time to reflect when you see 5 thugs busting an elderly woman over the head with a 2x4 in Rochester NY.

Hope that helps.

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:20 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:10 pm

What I didn’t mean is you don’t need time to reflect when you see 5 thugs busting an elderly woman over the head with a 2x4 in Rochester NY.

Hope that helps.

You've been yelling at us that these people are all Democrats. THAT is what I'm reacting to, Pete.

So do everyone a favor, and follow your own advice. Stop with the speculation, and find something else to talk about.....


And BTW, that's a video from social media. Trust nothing you see. It's a mistake in 2020.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:24 pm You might not trust your sources, which is fair, so maybe do a little more digging. Is local Rochester media in on the tin hat foil conspiracy?

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 300655002/

I'm having problems spotting the conservative voters in the video...maybe point one out to me?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:24 pm



You might not trust your sources, which is fair, so maybe do a little more digging. Is local Rochester media in on the tin hat foil conspiracy?

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 300655002/

I'm having problems spotting the conservative voters in the video...maybe point one out to me?

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:55 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:47 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 3:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 3:19 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 2:14 pm BTW, my facebook feed this morning is FILLED with policemen kneeling in front of protesters. Policemen hugging protesters. Policemen holding signs saying "end police brutality".

Hope.

I have been saying this same thing for a very long time. 97.5 % of all police officers just want to protect and serve. I don't know how many millions of interactions police have with african americans and other minorities every year and every single day for that matter. No one dies, no one gets beat up, no one goes to jail what happens is dedicated police officers try to treat every situation they come across with compassion and humanity. Then one stupid ignorant ill trained police officer destroys all of the hard work of so many police officers in this nation. One effing stupid cop has destroyed everything so many cops have worked so hard to establish with the people they serve... TRUST. I feel bad for all of the men and women in law enforcement today. They bust their ass to negate the stereotype of police and at the blink of an eye, whatever good has been accomplished is gone by the wayside. One STUPID EFFING COP. I hope the piece of sheepdip is watching all the carnage he created along with 3 fellow alleged officers of the law. You people are trained to be professionals you failed every single law enforcement officer in this nation with your dereliction of your sworn oath to uphold the lawn. I hope you get everything you deserve when a jury of your peers convicts you of murder and sends your worthless, pathetic ass to jail for the rest of your life.

Yup...The people most mad at the bad cops......the good cops.

I’m going to guess the families of murdered civilians by bad cops are probably a bit angrier than good cops, but your point is taken.

Problem is even a lot of “good cops” are just guys who got the beat job they could out of HS, often due to a family relationship. So they may be fine people but are also human,some hot heads,some/many poorly trained and just shouldn’t have the authority to take ones freedom away temporarily let alone be endowed with the lawful use of lethal force.

"Problem is even a lot of “good cops” are just guys who got the beat job they could out of HS,"

My nephew always wanted to be a cop. It was his dream job since he was a kid. He started out in the army reserve by being trained as a medic. He joined the RPD after I believe 6 months at the academy. It took 5 years of police service to beat the silly notion out of him that he could make a difference. He started out as a good cop who wanted to help people. He ended up a suicidal alcoholic mess. He went from a good cop to a bad cop not because he wanted to. The evolution of his experience was something he could not mentally handle. One tussle he was involved in had the bad guy pull out his handgun and fired off a shot that whistled past his head. The only thing that saved him was his partner shot the guy before he could get off another round. He was never the same after that, he went downhill pretty quick.

Shortly after he went back on patrol he had a call about a man causing a disturbance in a local store. The man reached out to grab him and he pulled away from the guy and talked him down. What he told me about that spoke volumes as to the issues he had. He was so scared because he said the last guy that tried to grab him wanted to kill him. He had to go outside the building and throw up. He never forgot that and I don't think he ever forgave. That type of mental makeup does not make for a good police officer. Being a good cop is as much mental as it is physical. You have to have a very short memory. When you become judgmental about the people you are suppose to protect, time to turn in your badge and find another job. My nephew lives in Seattle now. He works on a fishing boat, smokes alot of weed and has a couple of dogs. He was a good cop until he could not handle the mental stress anymore. Then he was fired and then he got the help he needed so he would not want to kill himself anymore. This is just MO. I don't think any police academy teaches you how to deal with and understand the disrespect and hostility you will face every day you are on the job. That is called OJT. You either pass or you fail.

Appreciate you sharing that story craddle.

And in some regards, I wonder if there is a parallel (clearly not exactly), with younger kids that grow up in troubled areas, that also have to deal with and live with, scenarios like that....and this is with their peers, no cops; survival mode of sorts in your neighborhood.

I know many, present and retired DC, and surrounding DMV county police officers. The DC cops ALL say they can not wait to get out of there and retire. Compound that with fighting for your life to arrest a criminal....then seeing them back on the street in a short time only to begin again. It's often a zero sum career. I am reminded by a lawyer friend that..... crime pays.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:32 am
One point I need to make, and it involves a semi-apology.

I have learned much more this morning about Antifa. It appears as if Antifa is in fact the paramilitary wing of the party known as Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), not really the Democratic Party.

Can you be sure this cop will go down? No.

The preliminary autopsy was just released right now, and the results suggest that the deceased died of causes unrelated to the cop's knee.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:01 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:55 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:47 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 3:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 3:19 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 2:14 pm BTW, my facebook feed this morning is FILLED with policemen kneeling in front of protesters. Policemen hugging protesters. Policemen holding signs saying "end police brutality".

Hope.

I have been saying this same thing for a very long time. 97.5 % of all police officers just want to protect and serve. I don't know how many millions of interactions police have with african americans and other minorities every year and every single day for that matter. No one dies, no one gets beat up, no one goes to jail what happens is dedicated police officers try to treat every situation they come across with compassion and humanity. Then one stupid ignorant ill trained police officer destroys all of the hard work of so many police officers in this nation. One effing stupid cop has destroyed everything so many cops have worked so hard to establish with the people they serve... TRUST. I feel bad for all of the men and women in law enforcement today. They bust their ass to negate the stereotype of police and at the blink of an eye, whatever good has been accomplished is gone by the wayside. One STUPID EFFING COP. I hope the piece of sheepdip is watching all the carnage he created along with 3 fellow alleged officers of the law. You people are trained to be professionals you failed every single law enforcement officer in this nation with your dereliction of your sworn oath to uphold the lawn. I hope you get everything you deserve when a jury of your peers convicts you of murder and sends your worthless, pathetic ass to jail for the rest of your life.

Yup...The people most mad at the bad cops......the good cops.

I’m going to guess the families of murdered civilians by bad cops are probably a bit angrier than good cops, but your point is taken.

Problem is even a lot of “good cops” are just guys who got the beat job they could out of HS, often due to a family relationship. So they may be fine people but are also human,some hot heads,some/many poorly trained and just shouldn’t have the authority to take ones freedom away temporarily let alone be endowed with the lawful use of lethal force.

"Problem is even a lot of “good cops” are just guys who got the beat job they could out of HS,"

My nephew always wanted to be a cop. It was his dream job since he was a kid. He started out in the army reserve by being trained as a medic. He joined the RPD after I believe 6 months at the academy. It took 5 years of police service to beat the silly notion out of him that he could make a difference. He started out as a good cop who wanted to help people. He ended up a suicidal alcoholic mess. He went from a good cop to a bad cop not because he wanted to. The evolution of his experience was something he could not mentally handle. One tussle he was involved in had the bad guy pull out his handgun and fired off a shot that whistled past his head. The only thing that saved him was his partner shot the guy before he could get off another round. He was never the same after that, he went downhill pretty quick.

Shortly after he went back on patrol he had a call about a man causing a disturbance in a local store. The man reached out to grab him and he pulled away from the guy and talked him down. What he told me about that spoke volumes as to the issues he had. He was so scared because he said the last guy that tried to grab him wanted to kill him. He had to go outside the building and throw up. He never forgot that and I don't think he ever forgave. That type of mental makeup does not make for a good police officer. Being a good cop is as much mental as it is physical. You have to have a very short memory. When you become judgmental about the people you are suppose to protect, time to turn in your badge and find another job. My nephew lives in Seattle now. He works on a fishing boat, smokes alot of weed and has a couple of dogs. He was a good cop until he could not handle the mental stress anymore. Then he was fired and then he got the help he needed so he would not want to kill himself anymore. This is just MO. I don't think any police academy teaches you how to deal with and understand the disrespect and hostility you will face every day you are on the job. That is called OJT. You either pass or you fail.

Appreciate you sharing that story craddle.

And in some regards, I wonder if there is a parallel (clearly not exactly), with younger kids that grow up in troubled areas, that also have to deal with and live with, scenarios like that....and this is with their peers, no cops; survival mode of sorts in your neighborhood.

I know many, present and retired DC, and surrounding DMV county police officers. The DC cops ALL say they can not wait to get out of there and retire. Compound that with fighting for your life to arrest a criminal....then seeing them back on the street in a short time only to begin again. It's often a zero sum career. I am reminded by a lawyer friend that..... crime pays.

My nephew, towards the end of his law enforcement career did not care anymore. He would see someone selling crack on the street corner and he just kept it moving. In his mind street justice would find that person. They were usually shot dead on a street corner. As per the no snitching mentality... nobody saw a damn thing. That guy must have stepped in front of a flock of bullets flying south for the winter. So the police hang around long enough for the FD wash the blood out of street. Then family and friends show up to grieve and light candles and tell everybody he was a good kid trying to get his life together. Then later that night some new kid shows up on the same corner to open up a new fruit stand for all the drive by customers. At some point the police will drive by and keep it moving. There is no need to arrest anyone. Circumstance always finds it's own way to deal with it.

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:31 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:24 pm



You might not trust your sources, which is fair, so maybe do a little more digging. Is local Rochester media in on the tin hat foil conspiracy?

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 300655002/

I'm having problems spotting the conservative voters in the video...maybe point one out to me?

Golly, could the attackers have been Republican QAnon or Tea Baggers and the white bystanders or drive by do nothings have been the Democrats?

Oh by the way, still waiting for your proof that I called Colinford Mattis a racist.

calourie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:03 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:32 am One point I need to make, and it involves a semi-apology.

I have learned much more this morning about Antifa. It appears as if Antifa is in fact the paramilitary wing of the party known as Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), not really the Democratic Party.

The problem for many (including me) is the DSA is now aligned with the Democratic Party and many well-known DSA folks are active inside the Democratic Party: AOC and Rashida Talib, not to mention Bernie. John Conyers and Ron Dellums were active DSA.

https://twitter.com/AsraNomani/status/1 ... 47941?s=20

This is a terrorist organization; if you don't want to watch videos of what they are doing on the streets, fine, just don't come back and say they aren't when that is precisely what they are. They are using walkie talkies, not phones, and have grown very sophisticated moving supplies to cause the maximum chaos. Their goal is to subvert America; nitwits like Joe Biden who seek to raise money to bail out the DSA thugs play right into their hands.

PB rather than the constant vilification of democrats and emphasizing their every move that you disagree with or find an an anathema how about offering some constructive ideas for solving some of the issues tearing at the fabric of American society, the product of which you seem so upset by. I'm talking about issues such as mind numbing income disparity, rogue cop brutality, institutional racism, the lack of decent educational and/or occupational training opportunity for all, the move to make voting more rather than less difficult, and so on and so forth. Business and the Military are not the only businesses America should invest in if we are to create the more perfect union our founding fathers tried to put us on a path towards. From my standpoint simply saying vote for Trump or republicans won't be seen as a particularly meaningful response.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:15 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:03 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:59 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:56 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:23 am What a revealing page of posts.

Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad
6x6
Brooklyn
et al...

All know cops but wouldn't want their sisters to date one.

Cops are Alcoholic power hungry failures unable to do anything else with their lives.

Illiterate Fascists with a badge.

I can hear you all chuckling under your breath at cocktail parties when someone mentions "first responders."

Um, six------do you not know who 6x6 is?

Pretty sure the man "knows" a few policemen.....

Notwithstanding "who" he is (which is entirely irrelevant), what he posts is up for 6 to comment on. I don't think I have seen a post by 6x6, so I have no idea if he is like the others. What I would say is 6ft is corrcet in the posts that have been written here by the usual Democratic suspects basically saying cops are worthless. Do you not see that?

Except I’m not a democrat. Been a registered Rep for quite a while. So you are making a incorrect statement once again. Just wrong. And my words were literal actual stories and experiences. Not just searching for links to throw against a wall and hope some stick

Just keep my username out of your mouth

Two questions:

You say you’re a Republican. Have you ever posted on Fanlax anything positive about a conservative Republican?

I’m not going to reread your posts about police. The general sentiment last night was a long screed about how they’re mostly drunkard blowhards. That’s how it came off. Have you ever posted anything positive about a cop?

Those are legitimately serious questions.

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:07 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:59 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:56 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:23 am What a revealing page of posts.

Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad
6x6
Brooklyn
et al...

All know cops but wouldn't want their sisters to date one.

Cops are Alcoholic power hungry failures unable to do anything else with their lives.

Illiterate Fascists with a badge.

I can hear you all chuckling under your breath at cocktail parties when someone mentions "first responders."

Um, six------do you not know who 6x6 is?

Pretty sure the man "knows" a few policemen.....

Notwithstanding "who" he is (which is entirely irrelevant), what he posts is up for 6 to comment on. I don't think I have seen a post by 6x6, so I have no idea if he is like the others. What I would say is 6ft is corrcet in the posts that have been written here by the usual Democratic suspects basically saying cops are worthless. Do you not see that?

So you're not catching on to what I'm trying to tell you about 6x6, are ya?

6ftstick is SPECIFICALLY incorrect here about 6x6. Now why would that be the case?

Take 10 seconds for once, and think about what you're reading. Maybe read my posts again, eh?