Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:04 am
It is indeed illegal, but as you’ll see in this clip, the refs miss a lot of fouls:
https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
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https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:29 am
Interesting clipCletus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:04 amIt is indeed illegal, but as you’ll see in this clip, the refs miss a lot of fouls:
https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
The ref was right in front of that play, same with when the butt check occurredRe: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:40 am
I know—I crack up every time I watch it.glaxer24 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:29 amInteresting clipCletus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:04 amIt is indeed illegal, but as you’ll see in this clip, the refs miss a lot of fouls:
https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:42 am
Good to see that big shaggy head of red hair back in the house. Weren’t hardly the same without him.
Who graduates/who opts for another year?
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:09 am
It will make next year interesting. What will teams look like if the boatload of returning grad students, seniors and redshirts due to covid all graduate this spring? Once the backlog of seniors graduate, teams will look drastically different. Take NC for instance, if all their grad students, redshirt seniors and seniors (12 total) all graduate this year, it will look like a completely different team next year, and no longer a shoe-in for the ACC title (regular season or conference title). For next year, anyway...
ACC and Big 10 coordination
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:50 am
The two biggest and best conferences in D1 have done a nice job dovetailing their conference playing time schedules.
The ACC starts Wednesday with all 4 quarterfinal games being played starting at noon with ideal seacoaster spacing of 2-1/2 hours allotted for each game.
The Big 10 starts Thursday with all three 1st rd games played beginning at 2pm with even better seacoaster spacing as each game is allotted 3 hours each.
And here's where the dovetailing is at its finest:
Friday both conferences beam their semifinals. ACC at noon and 2:30pm. Big 10 at 5 and 8pm.
Sunday is the only day there's trouble as both finals start at noon. But in this age of modern technology, replays make seeing both games easy.
Good times in women's lacrosse these days.
The ACC starts Wednesday with all 4 quarterfinal games being played starting at noon with ideal seacoaster spacing of 2-1/2 hours allotted for each game.
The Big 10 starts Thursday with all three 1st rd games played beginning at 2pm with even better seacoaster spacing as each game is allotted 3 hours each.
And here's where the dovetailing is at its finest:
Friday both conferences beam their semifinals. ACC at noon and 2:30pm. Big 10 at 5 and 8pm.
Sunday is the only day there's trouble as both finals start at noon. But in this age of modern technology, replays make seeing both games easy.
Good times in women's lacrosse these days.
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:09 am
I do not believe that a butt check is illegal. There are legal ways to check the bottom of the stick, but in doing so, the stick must be away from the body and the check must also go away from the body/face without hitting hands/body. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xp ... story.htmlCletus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:04 amIt is indeed illegal, but as you’ll see in this clip, the refs miss a lot of fouls:
https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
There are so many fouls that can occur from butt checking that it is not seen as a safe check -reaching across the body, causing either stick to go towards the head, hitting the hands or other body part, hooking, illegal contact, dangerous contact, illegal use of the crosse...Lots of reasons not to do it, but the act of checking the bottom of the stick is not illegal, AFAIK.
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:20 am
I don't know if this fits the context or not but this is from the NCAA rule book for 2020 & '21, See item 5.Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:09 amI do not believe that a butt check is illegal. There are legal ways to check the bottom of the stick, but in doing so, the stick must be away from the body and the check must also go away from the body/face without hitting hands/body. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xp ... story.htmlCletus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:04 amIt is indeed illegal, but as you’ll see in this clip, the refs miss a lot of fouls:
https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
There are so many fouls that can occur from butt checking that it is not seen as a safe check -reaching across the body, causing either stick to go towards the head, hitting the hands or other body part, hooking, illegal contact, dangerous contact, illegal use of the crosse...Lots of reasons not to do it, but the act of checking the bottom of the stick is not illegal, AFAIK.
n. Illegal Use of the Stick: Using the stick in a dangerous and/or intimidating
manner. For example:
1. Directly poking or waving the stick near an opponent’s face;
2. Roughly or recklessly checking an opponent’s stick. Any part of a stick
may be checked in a direction toward the body if the check is controlled.
No player’s stick may hit or cause an opponent’s stick to hit an opponent’s
body;
3. Making a sweeping check from behind that contacts an opponent’s body;
4. Reaching across an opponent to check the stick when one is level with or
behind their opponent;
5. Using the webbed area of one’s stick to hook the bottom end of an
opponent’s stick; or
6. Any other action with the stick that, in the official’s opinion, amounts to
dangerous or intimidating play.
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:50 am
Yes that is hooking as I mentioned above. That isn't the intent of the butt check, but one of the possible foulsCletus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:20 amI don't know if this fits the context or not but this is from the NCAA rule book for 2020 & '21, See item 5.Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:09 amI do not believe that a butt check is illegal. There are legal ways to check the bottom of the stick, but in doing so, the stick must be away from the body and the check must also go away from the body/face without hitting hands/body. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xp ... story.htmlCletus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:04 amIt is indeed illegal, but as you’ll see in this clip, the refs miss a lot of fouls:
https://youtu.be/GRo8P_jrgrQ
There are so many fouls that can occur from butt checking that it is not seen as a safe check -reaching across the body, causing either stick to go towards the head, hitting the hands or other body part, hooking, illegal contact, dangerous contact, illegal use of the crosse...Lots of reasons not to do it, but the act of checking the bottom of the stick is not illegal, AFAIK.
n. Illegal Use of the Stick: Using the stick in a dangerous and/or intimidating
manner. For example:
1. Directly poking or waving the stick near an opponent’s face;
2. Roughly or recklessly checking an opponent’s stick. Any part of a stick
may be checked in a direction toward the body if the check is controlled.
No player’s stick may hit or cause an opponent’s stick to hit an opponent’s
body;
3. Making a sweeping check from behind that contacts an opponent’s body;
4. Reaching across an opponent to check the stick when one is level with or
behind their opponent;
5. Using the webbed area of one’s stick to hook the bottom end of an
opponent’s stick; or
6. Any other action with the stick that, in the official’s opinion, amounts to
dangerous or intimidating play.
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:58 am
Is this supposed to be a rare occurrence?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am
In the last two or three weeks, I have seen this happen 4 times for sure, and maybe even 5 if memory serves. Is this rare? Are goalies getting more aggressive? I just have never seen this in years past. The goalie commits a foul, and has to line up on the 12 behind the shooter. Anyone else out there feel this is rare or has this greenhorn not watched enough lacrosse over the last eight years?
Re: Is this supposed to be a rare occurrence?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:03 am
Seen it happen a few times this season, maybe as goalies, and all players, are getting more athletic they are rooming more from the crease.Cletus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am In the last two or three weeks, I have seen this happen 4 times for sure, and maybe even 5 if memory serves. Is this rare? Are goalies getting more aggressive? I just have never seen this in years past. The goalie commits a foul, and has to line up on the 12 behind the shooter. Anyone else out there feel this is rare or has this greenhorn not watched enough lacrosse over the last eight years?
But to me it is another example of the many rules that need to be changed in the women’s game. You are basically giving a goal to the team that was fouled. I don’t mind the fact that a penalty is called , but giving a player an empty net 8 meter is just silly.
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:26 am
When a goalie leaves the goal circle she is a field player. Or you can tune into a PAC 12 game where this rule is. To enforced!
Re: Is this supposed to be a rare occurrence?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:34 am
yes, but did she make the shot??Cletus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am In the last two or three weeks, I have seen this happen 4 times for sure, and maybe even 5 if memory serves. Is this rare? Are goalies getting more aggressive? I just have never seen this in years past. The goalie commits a foul, and has to line up on the 12 behind the shooter. Anyone else out there feel this is rare or has this greenhorn not watched enough lacrosse over the last eight years?
Re: Is this supposed to be a rare occurrence?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:47 am
she did8meterPA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:34 amyes, but did she make the shot??Cletus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am In the last two or three weeks, I have seen this happen 4 times for sure, and maybe even 5 if memory serves. Is this rare? Are goalies getting more aggressive? I just have never seen this in years past. The goalie commits a foul, and has to line up on the 12 behind the shooter. Anyone else out there feel this is rare or has this greenhorn not watched enough lacrosse over the last eight years?
Re: Is this supposed to be a rare occurrence?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:45 am
Haha. I can think of at least once where I saw a player miss a shot like that. Bet you have too.8meterPA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:34 amyes, but did she make the shot??Cletus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am In the last two or three weeks, I have seen this happen 4 times for sure, and maybe even 5 if memory serves. Is this rare? Are goalies getting more aggressive? I just have never seen this in years past. The goalie commits a foul, and has to line up on the 12 behind the shooter. Anyone else out there feel this is rare or has this greenhorn not watched enough lacrosse over the last eight years?
It’s like a 2 foot putt.
Re: Is this supposed to be a rare occurrence?
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 5:48 pm
Heard a rumour....that they may move Final Four from Towson to PPL Park in Phily. Anyone hear anything about this?njbill wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:45 amHaha. I can think of at least once where I saw a player miss a shot like that. Bet you have too.8meterPA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:34 amyes, but did she make the shot??Cletus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am In the last two or three weeks, I have seen this happen 4 times for sure, and maybe even 5 if memory serves. Is this rare? Are goalies getting more aggressive? I just have never seen this in years past. The goalie commits a foul, and has to line up on the 12 behind the shooter. Anyone else out there feel this is rare or has this greenhorn not watched enough lacrosse over the last eight years?
It’s like a 2 foot putt.
All conference tourney info
Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:03 pm
1st 11 All-American girls for summer game announced
Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:46 pm
Re: Miscellaneous questions, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:29 pm
Ouch. I'm losing my fastball. I only know one of these girls, the one from Jersey. And she's definitely deserving. I think Terp Nation is going to like her next year.