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Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:44 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:05 pm
Kismet wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:56 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:24 pm
So will the NFL turn its back on Pat Tillman? He could have stayed home and played football and made a comfortable living. Those bastards sent him home to Dover with an American Flag draped on his coffin. One thing about patriotism it's a great recruiting tool. Pat Tillman gave his life so CK had the freedom to make his gesture. I wonder if CK ever once thought about that sacrifice?
We are one of the few countries that sing the national anthem before a domestic sporting event. It doesn’t seem stupid. It is stupid.
Also the country that advocated the use of the Bellamy Salute to accompany the Pledge of Allegiance in 1892. :oops: :oops:
That is until Hitler made it unfashionable in the 1930s.. :lol:
The best part? Ask the average American Conservative what they think of the Federal Government. When they get done with the swearing and telling us how horrible it is, ask them why they think we should MANDATE the celebration of the flag the is the literal representation of the Federal Government. Or a song dedicated to the Federal Government.

It makes ZERO sense.

What WOULD make sense? Is if they made up a State song for Texas, and play THAT during TX football games. Same for OK, MT, GA, etc.

What they have done is made the Stars and Stripes the symbol of our American Military. Nope. We've got flags and symbols for every branch of our armed forces. The Flag is about the Federal Government. the UNITED states.


That said I LOVE standing for the anthem. And wouldn't give a second thought to someone sitting or kneeling.

Newsflash to Americans: the ENTIRE point of the anthem is that we're FREE to stand, sit, whatever, when it's on. This isn't commie Russia. Please stop acting like it is.
I stand and take my hat off as do my children. It’s become a custom here but I don’t hold it against anyone that chooses not to. This is America. The State songs is a good idea. Sing the school song before college games and state songs for HS and professional sports. Quick question, is the Anthem played before golf tournaments?

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:39 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm For you -- it has to be ALL or NOTHING. That's why you will never understand.
That's your half-*ssed response to anything I write.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm You can love your country & appreciate the Federal govt, even be a part of it, & still understand when it is best limited & when it is better to defer to state & local govt, or the private sector. Limited Fed govt does not mean NO Fed govt.
Never said it did. Pay attention.

Ask the Average conservative RIGHT NOW what they think about the Federal Government. You're moving the goalposts to some projection of what America CAN be. Not what it is.

Ask them about what it is now. Right now.

And again, when they stop swearing? There's my simple point: they do not like the Federal Government. And that is PRECISELY what the flag represents. Directly. Literally. Not my fault that others give their own reason as to what they think American Flag is.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm There is no MANDATE to do anything regarding the flag.
:lol: Tell that to Colin K. And to your own political party who wants to mandate the Pledge of A.

If what you say here is true? No one would have so much as noticed Colin, or anyone else kneeling, protesting the American Federal Government's actions.

The same Federal Government you and your fellow R voters CLAIM to despise. You just don't like that I'm right about this. It's why your crew despised the BLM, who dared to tell America that the Government (run by Dems, not less) wasn't working for them. Instead of rallying to support them...what did you do?

Says it all, if you ask me.
All or Nothing again. No nuance. Maybe Kapernick was washed up, not worth the salary & definitely not worth the dissension he brought on himself. If he could have helped a team, somebody would have signed him.
:lol: Right. I didn't say a word about Football. Did your team lose their minds over Kapernick's kneeling, or not?

The answer is yes. So.....naturally, you want to pretend that that never happened, because it's not possible that your team ever does anything wrong, or does anything that you disagree with. So you ignore that it happened, or twist it around enough in your mind that you think "that doesn't count".

You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:39 pm Does the GOP platform Mandate the Pledge of Allegiance or standing for the NationaL Anthem ?
You say your wife was a teacher. Ask her about laws FORCING the Pledge at public schools. Then when you get your answer, come back and tell me that you disagree with these laws mandating the singing of the Federal Government song.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:59 pm
by OCanada
Think it makes him weak??? He is weak

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:55 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:39 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm For you -- it has to be ALL or NOTHING. That's why you will never understand.
That's your half-*ssed response to anything I write.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm You can love your country & appreciate the Federal govt, even be a part of it, & still understand when it is best limited & when it is better to defer to state & local govt, or the private sector. Limited Fed govt does not mean NO Fed govt.
Never said it did. Pay attention.

Ask the Average conservative RIGHT NOW what they think about the Federal Government. You're moving the goalposts to some projection of what America CAN be. Not what it is.

Ask them about what it is now. Right now.

And again, when they stop swearing? There's my simple point: they do not like the Federal Government. And that is PRECISELY what the flag represents. Directly. Literally. Not my fault that others give their own reason as to what they think American Flag is.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm There is no MANDATE to do anything regarding the flag.
:lol: Tell that to Colin K. And to your own political party who wants to mandate the Pledge of A.

If what you say here is true? No one would have so much as noticed Colin, or anyone else kneeling, protesting the American Federal Government's actions.

The same Federal Government you and your fellow R voters CLAIM to despise. You just don't like that I'm right about this. It's why your crew despised the BLM, who dared to tell America that the Government (run by Dems, not less) wasn't working for them. Instead of rallying to support them...what did you do?

Says it all, if you ask me.
All or Nothing again. No nuance. Maybe Kapernick was washed up, not worth the salary & definitely not worth the dissension he brought on himself. If he could have helped a team, somebody would have signed him.
:lol: Right. I didn't say a word about Football. Did your team lose their minds over Kapernick's kneeling, or not?

The answer is yes. So.....naturally, you want to pretend that that never happened, because it's not possible that your team ever does anything wrong, or does anything that you disagree with. So you ignore that it happened, or twist it around enough in your mind that you think "that doesn't count".

You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:39 pm Does the GOP platform Mandate the Pledge of Allegiance or standing for the NationaL Anthem ?
You say your wife was a teacher. Ask her about laws FORCING the Pledge at public schools. Then when you get your answer, come back and tell me that you disagree with these laws mandating the singing of the Federal Government song.
My team ? :roll: I don't care if anyone stands for the National Anthem.
I don't care if it's performed by Rose Ann Barr or drag queens jerking each other off.
Maybe we'll do it that way for the '28 Olympics in LA.
Ask my wife about the PoA in school ? Unlike you, she doesn't sweat the small sh!t.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:55 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:39 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm For you -- it has to be ALL or NOTHING. That's why you will never understand.
That's your half-*ssed response to anything I write.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm You can love your country & appreciate the Federal govt, even be a part of it, & still understand when it is best limited & when it is better to defer to state & local govt, or the private sector. Limited Fed govt does not mean NO Fed govt.
Never said it did. Pay attention.

Ask the Average conservative RIGHT NOW what they think about the Federal Government. You're moving the goalposts to some projection of what America CAN be. Not what it is.

Ask them about what it is now. Right now.

And again, when they stop swearing? There's my simple point: they do not like the Federal Government. And that is PRECISELY what the flag represents. Directly. Literally. Not my fault that others give their own reason as to what they think American Flag is.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:12 pm There is no MANDATE to do anything regarding the flag.
:lol: Tell that to Colin K. And to your own political party who wants to mandate the Pledge of A.

If what you say here is true? No one would have so much as noticed Colin, or anyone else kneeling, protesting the American Federal Government's actions.

The same Federal Government you and your fellow R voters CLAIM to despise. You just don't like that I'm right about this. It's why your crew despised the BLM, who dared to tell America that the Government (run by Dems, not less) wasn't working for them. Instead of rallying to support them...what did you do?

Says it all, if you ask me.
All or Nothing again. No nuance. Maybe Kapernick was washed up, not worth the salary & definitely not worth the dissension he brought on himself. If he could have helped a team, somebody would have signed him.
:lol: Right. I didn't say a word about Football. Did your team lose their minds over Kapernick's kneeling, or not?

The answer is yes. So.....naturally, you want to pretend that that never happened, because it's not possible that your team ever does anything wrong, or does anything that you disagree with. So you ignore that it happened, or twist it around enough in your mind that you think "that doesn't count".

You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:39 pm Does the GOP platform Mandate the Pledge of Allegiance or standing for the NationaL Anthem ?
You say your wife was a teacher. Ask her about laws FORCING the Pledge at public schools. Then when you get your answer, come back and tell me that you disagree with these laws mandating the singing of the Federal Government song.
My team ? :roll: I don't care if anyone stands for the National Anthem.
I don't care if it's performed by Rose Ann Barr or drag queens jerking each other off.
Maybe we'll do it that way for the '28 Olympics in LA.
Ask my wife about the PoA in school ? Unlike you, she doesn't sweat the small sh!t.
:lol: :lol: your mind is in the gutter. You think drag queens jerk each other off😂😂😂. That’s for you and people like you.. :lol: :lol:

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:27 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:55 pm
Ask my wife about the PoA in school ? Unlike you, she doesn't sweat the small sh!t.
Sigh. It's a law in multiple States to recite the pledge in school every day.

The goalposts are going to fall on your head and crush you, you move them around so much.

You're telling me right here that you're against FORCING kids to recite the pledge. We agree here, and yet you're STILL trying get mad at me.


You're in dire need of a dram. Or a nice walk. Or both.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:40 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:27 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:55 pm
Ask my wife about the PoA in school ? Unlike you, she doesn't sweat the small sh!t.
Sigh. It's a law in multiple States to recite the pledge in school every day.

The goalposts are going to fall on your head and crush you, you move them around so much.

You're telling me right here that you're against FORCING kids to recite the pledge. We agree here, and yet you're STILL trying get mad at me.

You're in dire need of a dram. Or a nice walk. Or both.
Why do you continue trying to tell me that this matters to me ?
How many times & ways do I have to tell you --
my wife & I don't give a sh!t about whether or not the NA or PoA are performed.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:50 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:40 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:27 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:55 pm
Ask my wife about the PoA in school ? Unlike you, she doesn't sweat the small sh!t.
Sigh. It's a law in multiple States to recite the pledge in school every day.

The goalposts are going to fall on your head and crush you, you move them around so much.

You're telling me right here that you're against FORCING kids to recite the pledge. We agree here, and yet you're STILL trying get mad at me.

You're in dire need of a dram. Or a nice walk. Or both.
Why do you continue trying to tell me that this matters to me ?
How many times & ways do I have to tell you --
my wife & I don't give a sh!t about whether or not the NA or PoA are performed.
Sigh. I'm simply telling you: it's LAW to recite it in Missouri. That's it. If she didn't notice, okie-dokie.

Forcing kids to do that is the opposite of 'not sweating the small sh*t". Again, we agree....that's it. We're done. Relax.

BTW...the "your team" stuff comes from YOU, remember?

You said, and I quote "I had to pick a side". Well...this is your team now. You will never call them out. You will never criticize them. You spend 100% of your time here criticizing "the other side"...instead of discussing ideas, and ignoring sides. You CHOSE this.

So, yes. That's your team.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:09 am
by old salt
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:50 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:40 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:27 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:55 pm
Ask my wife about the PoA in school ? Unlike you, she doesn't sweat the small sh!t.
Sigh. It's a law in multiple States to recite the pledge in school every day.

The goalposts are going to fall on your head and crush you, you move them around so much.

You're telling me right here that you're against FORCING kids to recite the pledge. We agree here, and yet you're STILL trying get mad at me.

You're in dire need of a dram. Or a nice walk. Or both.
Why do you continue trying to tell me that this matters to me ?
How many times & ways do I have to tell you --
my wife & I don't give a sh!t about whether or not the NA or PoA are performed.
Sigh. I'm simply telling you: it's LAW to recite it in Missouri. That's it. If she didn't notice, okie-dokie.

Forcing kids to do that is the opposite of 'not sweating the small sh*t". Again, we agree....that's it. We're done. Relax.

BTW...the "your team" stuff comes from YOU, remember?

You said, and I quote "I had to pick a side". Well...this is your team now. You will never call them out. You will never criticize them. You spend 100% of your time here criticizing "the other side"...instead of discussing ideas, and ignoring sides. You CHOSE this.

So, yes. That's your team.
How many times did you harangue me with "your team" before I threw it back at you.
My wife knew it was the law in MO, TX, CA, MD, & DoD schools. She just didn't give a sh!t.
She was just happy to land a job, since we had to move so often.
I discuss ideas plenty. You just don't like my ideas, opinions or perspective.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:36 am
by a fan
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:09 am
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:50 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:40 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:27 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:55 pm
Ask my wife about the PoA in school ? Unlike you, she doesn't sweat the small sh!t.
Sigh. It's a law in multiple States to recite the pledge in school every day.

The goalposts are going to fall on your head and crush you, you move them around so much.

You're telling me right here that you're against FORCING kids to recite the pledge. We agree here, and yet you're STILL trying get mad at me.

You're in dire need of a dram. Or a nice walk. Or both.
Why do you continue trying to tell me that this matters to me ?
How many times & ways do I have to tell you --
my wife & I don't give a sh!t about whether or not the NA or PoA are performed.
Sigh. I'm simply telling you: it's LAW to recite it in Missouri. That's it. If she didn't notice, okie-dokie.

Forcing kids to do that is the opposite of 'not sweating the small sh*t". Again, we agree....that's it. We're done. Relax.

BTW...the "your team" stuff comes from YOU, remember?

You said, and I quote "I had to pick a side". Well...this is your team now. You will never call them out. You will never criticize them. You spend 100% of your time here criticizing "the other side"...instead of discussing ideas, and ignoring sides. You CHOSE this.

So, yes. That's your team.
How many times did you harangue me with "your team" before I threw it back at you.
My wife knew it was the law in MO, TX, CA, MD, & DoD schools. She just didn't give a sh!t.
She was just happy to land a job, since we had to move so often.
I discuss ideas plenty. You just don't like my ideas, opinions or perspective.
:lol: I've agreed with them MULTIPLE times just this month, and have put it in writing. And agree in this very topic....that it should NOT be a law to recite the pledge.

You're SO desperate for a fight, you don't notice. I'm the most centrist person here, and it's not even a close call.

Have a good night.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:41 am
by old salt
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
Because their businesses were being looted & their cities burned down around them by BLM peaceful protesters.
...while the BLM founders made off with the donations & Kamala raised bail money for the rioters.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:44 am
by Kismet
Not to interrrupt the local conflict going on here - but apparently the Israelis may have dropped the hammer on Ismail Haniyeh, a top Hamas leader and lead hostage/cease fire negotiator while he was visiting Tehran to attend the new moderate President's inauguration.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/worl ... ehran.html

Rut Roh.

In unrelated activity

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us ... r-BB1qVkpm

"Unlike previous U.S. airstrikes in Iraq and Syria that were in retaliation for the attacks on U.S. bases, Tuesday's airstrike was described as defensive and targeting militants preparing to undertake an attack."

I'm sure that Cradle's phone was ringing off the hook on this news ;) .

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:49 am
by cradleandshoot
Kismet wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:44 am Not to interrrupt the local conflict going on here - but apparently the Israelis may have dropped the hammer on Ismail Haniyeh, a top Hamas leader and lead hostage/cease fire negotiator while he was visiting Tehran to attend the new moderate President's inauguration.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/worl ... ehran.html

Rut Roh.
It makes you wonder how Israeli intelligence is able to track these people while in Iran? At face value any bad actors should feel comfy cozy while in Iran.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:33 am
by Kismet
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:49 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:44 am Not to interrrupt the local conflict going on here - but apparently the Israelis may have dropped the hammer on Ismail Haniyeh, a top Hamas leader and lead hostage/cease fire negotiator while he was visiting Tehran to attend the new moderate President's inauguration.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/worl ... ehran.html

Rut Roh.
It makes you wonder how Israeli intelligence is able to track these people while in Iran? At face value any bad actors should feel comfy cozy while in Iran.
Actually, they knew they couldn't get him in Qatar, so they apparently waited for him to travel to Iran to nail him.
Qataris are not happy.

Reports now coming in that the Israelis used a air to surface missile which destroyed his residence in Tehran. Will be interesting to see from what distance Israeli AF launched the missile.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:30 am
by a fan
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:41 am
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
Because their businesses were being looted & their cities burned down around them by BLM peaceful protesters.
...while the BLM founders made off with the donations & Kamala raised bail money for the rioters.
:lol: So did the Jan 6th rioters. Those that didn't break laws had the FULL support of the Republican party. And my support to, if you'll recall.

Try again. Hundreds of thousans of peaceful protesters, OS. You can't answer the question.

And that's fine. We all know why your party didn't so much as listen to them, and hear them out.....you don't have to answer.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:41 am
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:30 am
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:41 am
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
Because their businesses were being looted & their cities burned down around them by BLM peaceful protesters.
...while the BLM founders made off with the donations & Kamala raised bail money for the rioters.
:lol: So did the Jan 6th rioters. Those that didn't break laws had the FULL support of the Republican party. And my support to, if you'll recall.

Try again. Hundreds of thousans of peaceful protesters, OS. You can't answer the question.

And that's fine. We all know why your party didn't so much as listen to them, and hear them out.....you don't have to answer.
That’s his tell. Black people don’t own any business and aren’t “Republican” and if they do, they can’t support BLM…. Also, you asked about the Republican Party and Old Seaman infers that the republican party owns those businesses and that is why they didn’t listen to the grievances and widen the tent…. It’s a consistent tell by him.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:39 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:30 am
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:41 am
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
Because their businesses were being looted & their cities burned down around them by BLM peaceful protesters.
...while the BLM founders made off with the donations & Kamala raised bail money for the rioters.
:lol: So did the Jan 6th rioters. Those that didn't break laws had the FULL support of the Republican party. And my support to, if you'll recall.

Try again. Hundreds of thousans of peaceful protesters, OS. You can't answer the question.

And that's fine. We all know why your party didn't so much as listen to them, and hear them out.....you don't have to answer.
How much damage was done to the Capitol on Jan 6 vs the damage done in all the BLM/Antifa riots.
How many injuries & deaths in the comparison.

If the BLM rioters were pursued & punished with the same zeal & thoroughness as the Jan 6 rioters, I'd be satisfied.
For which group of rioters did Kamala help raise bail money ?

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:17 pm
by old salt
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:49 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:44 am Not to interrrupt the local conflict going on here - but apparently the Israelis may have dropped the hammer on Ismail Haniyeh, a top Hamas leader and lead hostage/cease fire negotiator while he was visiting Tehran to attend the new moderate President's inauguration.

* https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/worl ... ehran.html

Rut Roh.
It makes you wonder how Israeli intelligence is able to track these people while in Iran? At face value any bad actors should feel comfy cozy while in Iran.
* Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin said on Wednesday that the U.S. government, which has also been mediating the talks along with Qatar and Egypt, would “work hard to make sure that we’re doing things to help take the temperature down, and address issues through diplomatic means.”

Translation : Biden will release a few more billion$ to Iran to buy & distribute more weapons to their proxy fighters.

Hamas needs a better travel agent.

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:21 pm
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:17 pm Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin said on Wednesday that the U.S. government, which has also been mediating the talks along with Qatar and Egypt, would “work hard to make sure that we’re doing things to help take the temperature down, and address issues through diplomatic means.”

Translation : Biden will release a few more billion$ to Iran to buy & distribute more weapons to their proxy fighters.

Hamas needs a better travel agent.
The usual fantasy garbage from you...TROLL ON :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
Explains why you love Orange Fatso so much :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Israel and the West Bank Settlements Issue

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:50 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:39 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:30 am
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:41 am
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm You STILL can't explain why your party didn't tell BLM: welcome to the party, we think the Government isn't working well, either. And the reason you bail from that question is that you don't want to simply admit your party made a mistake there. Because you think admitting a mistake makes you weak. Everyone makes mistakes. Well...not you, obviously....but the rest of us do.
Because their businesses were being looted & their cities burned down around them by BLM peaceful protesters.
...while the BLM founders made off with the donations & Kamala raised bail money for the rioters.
:lol: So did the Jan 6th rioters. Those that didn't break laws had the FULL support of the Republican party. And my support to, if you'll recall.

Try again. Hundreds of thousans of peaceful protesters, OS. You can't answer the question.

And that's fine. We all know why your party didn't so much as listen to them, and hear them out.....you don't have to answer.
How much damage was done to the Capitol on Jan 6 vs the damage done in all the BLM/Antifa riots.
How many injuries & deaths in the comparison.

If the BLM rioters were pursued & punished with the same zeal & thoroughness as the Jan 6 rioters, I'd be satisfied.
For which group of rioters did Kamala help raise bail money ?
Knee jerk reaction that makes my point.

To answer the question you refuse to answer.....

The reasons the Republicans didn't embrace the citizens of Minneapolis, who told the entire world that their local government wasn't listening to them, and was actively killing them, are:

1. Republicans only care about their own tribe's personal rights. They don't care if "other people" don't get them. To wit: your defense of the Jan 6th folks, because that's your tribe. So you'll do everything to tell us it was no big deal, lawbreaking is fine, the damage wasn't that bad, and trying to overthrow an election is no big deal.

You're the poster boy for this way of thinking. So long as your rights are secured, you don't care. But the millisecond you think you lose even a fraction of your rights? You lose it. Hence your DEI comments, where you think white guys like you and me aren't getting all their rights. Has NOTHING to do with fairness.

2. They think the police aren't the government. They think the police are managed by....well, honestly I don't know where they think the employees and managers at police departments come from, but the CLEARLY don't think they're the government. Because Republicans, to a person, think that the government can't do anything right.

Except the police and the military. I don't get it, but that's how they think. So they don't see the man how was killed as a systemic failure of the Minneapolis Government...even though, hilariously, it's ENTIRELY run by Democrats.

3.Racism. Happy to admit that I believe----rightly or wrongly----- that's a small percentage of the Republican party. It's still worth mentioning.


You guys missed a generational opportunity to crush Dems at the voting both. Pretty easy to condemn the violence, yet embrace the message of BLM.

Just one man's opinion.