LaxPower Back-Up Stick

holmes435 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:24 pm

I'm certain this one isn't photoshopped.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:19 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:06 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:44 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:32 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:50 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:23 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:19 am Just curious: If we lived hundreds of millions of years ago how would some of you propose we’d have kept Pangaea from eroding and separating?

The same way we will deal with part of California separating from the mainland - just let it happen.

Of course the timescale is _completely_ different, and the net effects quite gradual compared to climate change...

And you know this how?

Different aspect to think about. Science has theorized, with strong evidence, that the earths poles have shifted.

Would THAT effect the weather?

1. I know about Pangaea and how gradual things are from teaching Astronomy for a quarter century. Plate techtonics are well-known and quite well understood.

2. Shift of poles - magnetic (happens quite often on a geologic time scale) or rotational axis? Each _does_ affect the weather to quite different degrees, but generally not a huge effect. But understanding the rotational "wobbles" and how that changes the seasons has been used to understand some of the past ice ages vs. warm spells. (Milankovic cycles, which also include changes in eccentricity - how elliptical the Earth's orbit has become - and axial tilt are the basis for these calculations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles)

Time scale for both kinds of shifts are quite slow. Rotational precession has a period of 26000 years.

Geomagnetic reversals are even slower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal) - as fast as 50,000 years and can be many millions of years.

Not talking wobbles .........talking actual shifting of the poles (over a thousand miles in the last 100 years. )

Appreciate the normal response.

Then you are referring to the magnetic pole shift. Probably very little change in weather for such a shift - the effects of the magnetic poles on the weather are fairly small. And still to slow to account for any of the recent climate shifts...

When deniers can demonstrate a "coupling mechanism" between magnetic fields and the atmosphere, apart from atomic fine level splitting have them get back to you.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:48 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:19 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:06 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:44 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:32 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:50 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:23 am

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:19 am Just curious: If we lived hundreds of millions of years ago how would some of you propose we’d have kept Pangaea from eroding and separating?

The same way we will deal with part of California separating from the mainland - just let it happen.

Of course the timescale is _completely_ different, and the net effects quite gradual compared to climate change...

And you know this how?

Different aspect to think about. Science has theorized, with strong evidence, that the earths poles have shifted.

Would THAT effect the weather?

1. I know about Pangaea and how gradual things are from teaching Astronomy for a quarter century. Plate techtonics are well-known and quite well understood.

2. Shift of poles - magnetic (happens quite often on a geologic time scale) or rotational axis? Each _does_ affect the weather to quite different degrees, but generally not a huge effect. But understanding the rotational "wobbles" and how that changes the seasons has been used to understand some of the past ice ages vs. warm spells. (Milankovic cycles, which also include changes in eccentricity - how elliptical the Earth's orbit has become - and axial tilt are the basis for these calculations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles)

Time scale for both kinds of shifts are quite slow. Rotational precession has a period of 26000 years.

Geomagnetic reversals are even slower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal) - as fast as 50,000 years and can be many millions of years.

Not talking wobbles .........talking actual shifting of the poles (over a thousand miles in the last 100 years. )

Appreciate the normal response.

Then you are referring to the magnetic pole shift. Probably very little change in weather for such a shift - the effects of the magnetic poles on the weather are fairly small. And still to slow to account for any of the recent climate shifts...

When deniers can demonstrate a "coupling mechanism" between magnetic fields and the atmosphere, apart from atomic fine level splitting have them get back to you.

Too bad we lost the search function on the Old Laxpower where you also poo-pood this.

Seems you have an argument to take up with the scientist "deniers"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topst ... d=msedgdhp

Researchers found that the reversal led to "pronounced climate change." Their modeling showed that ice sheet and glacier growth in North America and shifts in major wind belts and tropical storm systems could be traced back to the period of the magnetic pole switch, which scientists named the "Adams Event."

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:22 am When Pres Biden visit's Texas, he can explain how he intends to winterize their 90% carbon free elec grid, which he envisions, ...by 2035.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... y-n1234528

Biden's plan spans four years and includes some lofty goals — including achieving a 100 percent clean electricity standard by 2035.

A report released last month by the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy said the U.S. can achieve 90 percent carbon-free electricity by 2035 with technologies that exist today.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:51 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:22 am When Pres Biden visit's Texas, he can explain how he intends to winterize their 90% carbon free elec grid, which he envisions, ...by 2035.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... y-n1234528

Biden's plan spans four years and includes some lofty goals — including achieving a 100 percent clean electricity standard by 2035.

A report released last month by the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy said the U.S. can achieve 90 percent carbon-free electricity by 2035 with technologies that exist today.

Does that mean the planet has been saved? That means the polar bears can breath a sigh of relief.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:44 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:51 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:22 am When Pres Biden visit's Texas, he can explain how he intends to winterize their 90% carbon free elec grid, which he envisions, ...by 2035.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... y-n1234528

Biden's plan spans four years and includes some lofty goals — including achieving a 100 percent clean electricity standard by 2035.

A report released last month by the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy said the U.S. can achieve 90 percent carbon-free electricity by 2035 with technologies that exist today.

Does that mean the planet has been saved? That means the polar bears can breath a sigh of relief.

Nope, needs to be implemented.
And there's a whole lot of resistance to doing so.

And of course, not just in the USA.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:21 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:44 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:51 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:22 am When Pres Biden visit's Texas, he can explain how he intends to winterize their 90% carbon free elec grid, which he envisions, ...by 2035.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... y-n1234528

Biden's plan spans four years and includes some lofty goals — including achieving a 100 percent clean electricity standard by 2035.

A report released last month by the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy said the U.S. can achieve 90 percent carbon-free electricity by 2035 with technologies that exist today.

Does that mean the planet has been saved? That means the polar bears can breath a sigh of relief.

Nope, needs to be implemented.
And there's a whole lot of resistance to doing so.

And of course, not just in the USA.

I bet the Chicoms don't give a flying fig. That is in spite of the BS they throw out there to the contrary. Why else would they be helping all those developing nation's build coal fired plants? Why should that family living in a mud hut in indonesia have expectations of having an electric light in their hut. Maybe Joe should fly Air force one over there and explain it to the people who have never had electricity in their lifetime. Got It..

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:21 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:44 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:51 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:22 am When Pres Biden visit's Texas, he can explain how he intends to winterize their 90% carbon free elec grid, which he envisions, ...by 2035.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... y-n1234528

Biden's plan spans four years and includes some lofty goals — including achieving a 100 percent clean electricity standard by 2035.

A report released last month by the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy said the U.S. can achieve 90 percent carbon-free electricity by 2035 with technologies that exist today.

Does that mean the planet has been saved? That means the polar bears can breath a sigh of relief.

Nope, needs to be implemented.
And there's a whole lot of resistance to doing so.

And of course, not just in the USA.

I bet the Chicoms don't give a flying fig. That is in spite of the BS they throw out there to the contrary. Why else would they be helping all those developing nation's build coal fired plants? Why should that family living in a mud hut in indonesia have expectations of having an electric light in their hut. Maybe Joe should fly Air force one over there and explain it to the people who have never had electricity in their lifetime. Got It..

You can can stick with oil and coal....the world is moving forward... https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/23/americas ... index.html

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:59 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:21 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:44 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:51 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:22 am When Pres Biden visit's Texas, he can explain how he intends to winterize their 90% carbon free elec grid, which he envisions, ...by 2035.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... y-n1234528

Biden's plan spans four years and includes some lofty goals — including achieving a 100 percent clean electricity standard by 2035.

A report released last month by the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy said the U.S. can achieve 90 percent carbon-free electricity by 2035 with technologies that exist today.

Does that mean the planet has been saved? That means the polar bears can breath a sigh of relief.

Nope, needs to be implemented.
And there's a whole lot of resistance to doing so.

And of course, not just in the USA.

I bet the Chicoms don't give a flying fig. That is in spite of the BS they throw out there to the contrary. Why else would they be helping all those developing nation's build coal fired plants? Why should that family living in a mud hut in indonesia have expectations of having an electric light in their hut. Maybe Joe should fly Air force one over there and explain it to the people who have never had electricity in their lifetime. Got It..

You can can stick with oil and coal....the world is moving forward... https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/23/americas ... index.html

That world at least as far as the Chicoms are concerned still leans heavily on oil and coal. Maybe you should write Xi a stern letter? Your power of persuasion will certainly change his mind. Do it for the polar bears. Have you adopted one yet? I know it is only symbolic, but they need your help.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:41 am If one can't answer this question, " what climate are we changing too ".....why are you here. You don't wanna solve crappe. You just wanna argue that your mythical side is right.


SO....what climate, was Texas predicked to be, 10 years ago.

Look in the mirror, wrong kind of greenies, YOU caused the Texas infrastructure collapse. Oh, whats that...you haven't been screaming, for years and year and years......that record HIGH temps....blah blah blah.

SO.....if most of Texas fits one climate criterion/classification (science, write ? ....and YOU, the liars.....jhu72, docB, AFAN, etc. have been saying that that CLIMATE, in Texas, is going to CHANGE to "warmer"

unless, you, the liars, haven't been doing a good job educating us idiots, and we don't understand that what YOU really mean by climate change IS this:

"shutTupF and do what you are told......."

YOU....have been saying that Texas would be way warm, by 2021, right.

No, no, NOT warm, idiot (referencing myself, I just called myself an idiot ).....but, changed.....

changed to what ?

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:52 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:21 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:44 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:51 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:22 am When Pres Biden visit's Texas, he can explain how he intends to winterize their 90% carbon free elec grid, which he envisions, ...by 2035.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... y-n1234528

Biden's plan spans four years and includes some lofty goals — including achieving a 100 percent clean electricity standard by 2035.

A report released last month by the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy said the U.S. can achieve 90 percent carbon-free electricity by 2035 with technologies that exist today.

Does that mean the planet has been saved? That means the polar bears can breath a sigh of relief.

Nope, needs to be implemented.
And there's a whole lot of resistance to doing so.

And of course, not just in the USA.

I bet the Chicoms don't give a flying fig. That is in spite of the BS they throw out there to the contrary. Why else would they be helping all those developing nation's build coal fired plants? Why should that family living in a mud hut in indonesia have expectations of having an electric light in their hut. Maybe Joe should fly Air force one over there and explain it to the people who have never had electricity in their lifetime. Got It..

You can can stick with oil and coal....the world is moving forward... https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/23/americas ... index.html

Checked with many, many people and appears this post you provided is fictional. At least, regarding use in domestic settings, let alone in the business world. I think AFAN did mention installing this kind of power system at his distillary, but covid made it too expensive.

Very clever, you didn't include gas, in you oh so quippy "world...forward" remark. Isnt' that how YOU heat your home

If you can provide ASTM numbers, and other such related, would be glad to push this world moving forward product.