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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:15 pm
by a fan
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:18 pm From Comer the Gomer; I am sure Old Saltine will lecture Comer on weaponization of politics:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... t-his-dad/

"As House Republicans move toward a floor vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry against President Biden, House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has again mischaracterized evidence of payments from Hunter Biden to his father.

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In an email to reporters, a spokesperson for Comer claimed that the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating Biden, had obtained bank records revealing that Hunter Biden’s law firm, Owasco PC, which had received payments from Chinese-state-linked companies and other foreign companies in the past, made direct monthly payments to Joe Biden. The email claimed the payments “are part of a pattern revealing Joe Biden knew about, participated in and benefited from his family’s influence peddling schemes.”

The three payments of $1,380 that occurred in September, October and November of 2018 — nearly two years after Biden had left the vice presidency — were actually for a 2018 Ford Raptor truck Joe Biden had purchased that Hunter Biden was using, according to an email verified by a Washington Post forensic analysis.

“There Chairman Comer goes again - reheating what is old as new to try to revive his sham of an investigation,” Hunter Biden’s attorney Abbe Lowell said in a statement. “The truth is Hunter’s father helped him when he was struggling financially due to his addiction and could not secure credit to finance a truck. When Hunter was able to, he paid his father back and took over the payments himself.”

Joe Biden signed for the truck and had it in his name — at a time when Hunter was in the depths of addiction, had a low credit score and couldn’t make the purchase himself, according to a person close to the Bidens, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private matter. The truck was used only for a limited time, going back to the dealer about a year after the purchase.

Other expenses listed in the email verified by The Post included payments for health insurance, college and high school tuition for Hunter Biden’s children, the Yale Club and a storage unit.

A spokesperson for the Oversight Committee used the fact that the payments came from one of Hunter Biden’s accounts that also included money from a Chinese energy conglomerate to suggest something more nefarious than they have so far proved.

“There is now a pattern of members of the Biden family using their bank accounts that have been funded by Chinese and other foreign entities to send money to Joe Biden,” the spokesperson said. “Based on witness testimony, Joe Biden knew and participated in his family’s influence-peddling schemes. The checks and payments we’ve uncovered reveal Joe Biden benefited from them.”

Comer has consistently oversold or misrepresented the committee’s investigative findings as he has argued to initiate impeachment proceedings. Last month, Comer trumpeted a $200,000 loan repayment Joe Biden received from his brother James Biden. Comer sought to paint the personal check in nefarious terms, alleging without evidence that it showed that Joe Biden had indirectly received payments from his family’s foreign business dealings.

When presented with a bank record of the wire payment that showed the $200,000 payment to James Biden had originated from the president’s attorney trust account, Comer baselessly accused the law firm representing Joe Biden of money laundering."
The very best part of Old Salt, VDH, and FoxNation's drool-in-your shoes-stupid logic is: this all happened on Bill Barr's watch. He could investigate all he liked. "til his heart's content.

He. did. nothing. So if you want to yell and scream about "cover up".....that all lands squarely at the feet of Trump and his team, who had four years to investigate all they wanted.

It's all so freaking stupid. We're dealing with the dumbest America has to offer. The part that's so irritating is that these are grown men, pretending that they're idiots who can't pass freshman logic if they're given ten tries.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:26 am
by Farfromgeneva
a fan wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:15 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:18 pm From Comer the Gomer; I am sure Old Saltine will lecture Comer on weaponization of politics:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... t-his-dad/

"As House Republicans move toward a floor vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry against President Biden, House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has again mischaracterized evidence of payments from Hunter Biden to his father.

Keeping up with politics is easy with The 5-Minute Fix Newsletter, in your inbox weekdays.
In an email to reporters, a spokesperson for Comer claimed that the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating Biden, had obtained bank records revealing that Hunter Biden’s law firm, Owasco PC, which had received payments from Chinese-state-linked companies and other foreign companies in the past, made direct monthly payments to Joe Biden. The email claimed the payments “are part of a pattern revealing Joe Biden knew about, participated in and benefited from his family’s influence peddling schemes.”

The three payments of $1,380 that occurred in September, October and November of 2018 — nearly two years after Biden had left the vice presidency — were actually for a 2018 Ford Raptor truck Joe Biden had purchased that Hunter Biden was using, according to an email verified by a Washington Post forensic analysis.

“There Chairman Comer goes again - reheating what is old as new to try to revive his sham of an investigation,” Hunter Biden’s attorney Abbe Lowell said in a statement. “The truth is Hunter’s father helped him when he was struggling financially due to his addiction and could not secure credit to finance a truck. When Hunter was able to, he paid his father back and took over the payments himself.”

Joe Biden signed for the truck and had it in his name — at a time when Hunter was in the depths of addiction, had a low credit score and couldn’t make the purchase himself, according to a person close to the Bidens, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private matter. The truck was used only for a limited time, going back to the dealer about a year after the purchase.

Other expenses listed in the email verified by The Post included payments for health insurance, college and high school tuition for Hunter Biden’s children, the Yale Club and a storage unit.

A spokesperson for the Oversight Committee used the fact that the payments came from one of Hunter Biden’s accounts that also included money from a Chinese energy conglomerate to suggest something more nefarious than they have so far proved.

“There is now a pattern of members of the Biden family using their bank accounts that have been funded by Chinese and other foreign entities to send money to Joe Biden,” the spokesperson said. “Based on witness testimony, Joe Biden knew and participated in his family’s influence-peddling schemes. The checks and payments we’ve uncovered reveal Joe Biden benefited from them.”

Comer has consistently oversold or misrepresented the committee’s investigative findings as he has argued to initiate impeachment proceedings. Last month, Comer trumpeted a $200,000 loan repayment Joe Biden received from his brother James Biden. Comer sought to paint the personal check in nefarious terms, alleging without evidence that it showed that Joe Biden had indirectly received payments from his family’s foreign business dealings.

When presented with a bank record of the wire payment that showed the $200,000 payment to James Biden had originated from the president’s attorney trust account, Comer baselessly accused the law firm representing Joe Biden of money laundering."
The very best part of Old Salt, VDH, and FoxNation's drool-in-your shoes-stupid logic is: this all happened on Bill Barr's watch. He could investigate all he liked. "til his heart's content.

He. did. nothing. So if you want to yell and scream about "cover up".....that all lands squarely at the feet of Trump and his team, who had four years to investigate all they wanted.

It's all so freaking stupid. We're dealing with the dumbest America has to offer. The part that's so irritating is that these are grown men, pretending that they're idiots who can't pass freshman logic if they're given ten tries.
Some people took sides on media. Totally dumb but it’s happened. The Post isn’t his media. Unless we’re talking the toilet paper backup NY post-then it’s legit.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:34 am
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:25 am Nice to know that Old Saltine and Sammy Gravano agree on Hunter Biden. Jesse Waters and Fox News chose to platform the convicted felon and admitted mass murderer to accuse Hunter Biden of treason- a crime punishable by death.
:shock: Treason ? I have no idea what you are ranting about.
I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do.

The Biden family finances are a challenge to unravel. Too bad millions in foreign influence payments don't provide a credit rating sufficient to buy a pickup truck. Maybe Abbe Lowell is working pro bono.

The size of Hunter's "loan" from his Hollywood sugar-bro continues to grow.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/05/news/hunt ... tleblower/
Hunter Biden received a whopping $4.9 million from Hollywood lawyer Kevin Morris in a three-year period, according to an IRS agent who investigated the president’s son for alleged tax evasion.

The revelation signifies a substantial increase in the known amount that Hunter, 53, got from his so-called “sugar brother” after the men reportedly met for the first time at a December 2019 campaign fundraiser.

IRS agent Joseph Ziegler shared the jaw-dropping figure and additional documentation Tuesday with the House Ways and Means Committee in a follow-up appearance... Prior reporting indicated Morris paid about $2 million in tax debts for Hunter and purchased some of his novice artworks.

As part of his Tuesday testimony, Ziegler provided legislators an email showing that as early as Feb. 7, 2020 — two months after they met — Morris was contacting accountants on Hunter’s behalf and warning them to work quickly to avoid “considerable risk personally and politically.”

Ziegler, who investigated Hunter’s taxes for five years before he was removed from the case this year, said the first son’s income from Morris — at least some of it deemed loans — resembled Hunter’s practice of trying to avoid paying taxes on other income by describing it as loans.
“Hunter appeared to follow a pattern of attempting to avoid paying taxes on relevant income. This first started with Hunter not reporting the [Ukrainian gas company] Burisma income in 2014 and allegedly falsely claiming that it was a loan to him,” Ziegler said in his opening statement.
“He, again, tried to claim the millions in [Chinese] income earned from Hudson West III was a loan to him, which was refuted by the evidence and was not allowed by his tax accountants.
“This continued into 2020, 2021 and 2022, in which Hunter received approximately $4.9 million in payments for personal expenses, again in the form of a loan and gift from Democratic donor Kevin Patrick Morris.”
...Ziegler was asked to confirm the $4.9 million figure for Morris’ contributions and did so.
It’s possible that Morris gave even more in 2023 that’s not included in the total.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am
by MDlaxfan76
Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:07 am
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:34 am Treason ? I have no idea what you are ranting about.
Your preferred media source (Faux News) put this criminal on in prime time (Newsmax, too).

Actually surprised the your iconic NY Post didn't give Sammy the Bull and Op-Ed spot.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:27 am
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:34 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:25 am Nice to know that Old Saltine and Sammy Gravano agree on Hunter Biden. Jesse Waters and Fox News chose to platform the convicted felon and admitted mass murderer to accuse Hunter Biden of treason- a crime punishable by death.
:shock: Treason ? I have no idea what you are ranting about.
I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do.

The Biden family finances are a challenge to unravel. Too bad millions in foreign influence payments don't provide a credit rating sufficient to buy a pickup truck. Maybe Abbe Lowell is working pro bono.

The size of Hunter's "loan" from his Hollywood sugar-bro continues to grow.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/05/news/hunt ... tleblower/
Hunter Biden received a whopping $4.9 million from Hollywood lawyer Kevin Morris in a three-year period, according to an IRS agent who investigated the president’s son for alleged tax evasion.

The revelation signifies a substantial increase in the known amount that Hunter, 53, got from his so-called “sugar brother” after the men reportedly met for the first time at a December 2019 campaign fundraiser.

IRS agent Joseph Ziegler shared the jaw-dropping figure and additional documentation Tuesday with the House Ways and Means Committee in a follow-up appearance... Prior reporting indicated Morris paid about $2 million in tax debts for Hunter and purchased some of his novice artworks.

As part of his Tuesday testimony, Ziegler provided legislators an email showing that as early as Feb. 7, 2020 — two months after they met — Morris was contacting accountants on Hunter’s behalf and warning them to work quickly to avoid “considerable risk personally and politically.”

Ziegler, who investigated Hunter’s taxes for five years before he was removed from the case this year, said the first son’s income from Morris — at least some of it deemed loans — resembled Hunter’s practice of trying to avoid paying taxes on other income by describing it as loans.
“Hunter appeared to follow a pattern of attempting to avoid paying taxes on relevant income. This first started with Hunter not reporting the [Ukrainian gas company] Burisma income in 2014 and allegedly falsely claiming that it was a loan to him,” Ziegler said in his opening statement.
“He, again, tried to claim the millions in [Chinese] income earned from Hudson West III was a loan to him, which was refuted by the evidence and was not allowed by his tax accountants.
“This continued into 2020, 2021 and 2022, in which Hunter received approximately $4.9 million in payments for personal expenses, again in the form of a loan and gift from Democratic donor Kevin Patrick Morris.”
...Ziegler was asked to confirm the $4.9 million figure for Morris’ contributions and did so.
It’s possible that Morris gave even more in 2023 that’s not included in the total.
Nobody cares what you want.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:04 am
by Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:27 am
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:34 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:25 am Nice to know that Old Saltine and Sammy Gravano agree on Hunter Biden. Jesse Waters and Fox News chose to platform the convicted felon and admitted mass murderer to accuse Hunter Biden of treason- a crime punishable by death.
:shock: Treason ? I have no idea what you are ranting about.
I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do.

The Biden family finances are a challenge to unravel. Too bad millions in foreign influence payments don't provide a credit rating sufficient to buy a pickup truck. Maybe Abbe Lowell is working pro bono.

The size of Hunter's "loan" from his Hollywood sugar-bro continues to grow.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/05/news/hunt ... tleblower/
Hunter Biden received a whopping $4.9 million from Hollywood lawyer Kevin Morris in a three-year period, according to an IRS agent who investigated the president’s son for alleged tax evasion.

The revelation signifies a substantial increase in the known amount that Hunter, 53, got from his so-called “sugar brother” after the men reportedly met for the first time at a December 2019 campaign fundraiser.

IRS agent Joseph Ziegler shared the jaw-dropping figure and additional documentation Tuesday with the House Ways and Means Committee in a follow-up appearance... Prior reporting indicated Morris paid about $2 million in tax debts for Hunter and purchased some of his novice artworks.

As part of his Tuesday testimony, Ziegler provided legislators an email showing that as early as Feb. 7, 2020 — two months after they met — Morris was contacting accountants on Hunter’s behalf and warning them to work quickly to avoid “considerable risk personally and politically.”

Ziegler, who investigated Hunter’s taxes for five years before he was removed from the case this year, said the first son’s income from Morris — at least some of it deemed loans — resembled Hunter’s practice of trying to avoid paying taxes on other income by describing it as loans.
“Hunter appeared to follow a pattern of attempting to avoid paying taxes on relevant income. This first started with Hunter not reporting the [Ukrainian gas company] Burisma income in 2014 and allegedly falsely claiming that it was a loan to him,” Ziegler said in his opening statement.
“He, again, tried to claim the millions in [Chinese] income earned from Hudson West III was a loan to him, which was refuted by the evidence and was not allowed by his tax accountants.
“This continued into 2020, 2021 and 2022, in which Hunter received approximately $4.9 million in payments for personal expenses, again in the form of a loan and gift from Democratic donor Kevin Patrick Morris.”
...Ziegler was asked to confirm the $4.9 million figure for Morris’ contributions and did so.
It’s possible that Morris gave even more in 2023 that’s not included in the total.
Nobody cares what you want.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:13 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.
You have no idea how stupid you sound.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:51 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.
And that's why we need to fund the IRS and DOJ so that they have the manpower to enforce the law. Especially in cases of high value offenses and those which potentially implicate public corruption.

You'll note that there really isn't anyone on here who doesn't want Hunter to have to pay all of his taxes.

But your "I just want" is very obviously not about Hunter. You needn't deny it.

You certainly haven't been wailing about Trump's fraud, tax fraud through the decades, or his invitations to public corruption. Nor his family members. We get it.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:57 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:13 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.
You have no idea how stupid you sound.
:mrgreen:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden- ... y-d77f2eb5

Joe Biden’s Assist to Hunter’s Business
New emails suggest what Burisma really wanted from the Bidens.
By The Editorial Board, Dec. 6, 2023

House investigators keep digging into the Biden family business, and this week comes new evidence of the ways Joe Biden helped his son using alias email accounts.
Internal Revenue Service agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler provided to the House Ways and Means Committee more information from their multiyear investigation into Hunter Biden’s taxes and business.

The documents include an 11-page log showing a list of 327 emails that Joe Biden sent or received from 2010 to 2019 under pseudonyms that included “robinware456” and “robert.l.peters.” Mr. Biden was a big user of these shadow accounts, with the National Archives and Records Administration disclosing that it has up to 82,000 pages of emails and documents sent or received under Biden aliases while he was Vice President.

The 327 emails listed in the log are exchanges between Joe Biden and Hunter or Eric Schwerin, a former Hunter business partner who handled Biden family finances. The committee says 54 of the exchanges are between Joe Biden and Mr. Schwerin.

Five emails were exchanged within five days of Mr. Biden’s June 2014 trip to Ukraine, while another 27 were exchanged prior to his return trip to Ukraine in November 2014. Those trips coincided with Hunter’s lucrative board position at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.

The trips preceded then Vice President’s Biden’s 2015 role in forcing the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma and its CEO, Nikolai Zlochevsky, for corruption. Another 38 emails originated from within the White House and were sent to Joe Biden aliases, with Hunter Biden copied.

The committee doesn’t know the contents of the emails, but further evidence provided to Congress raises questions about Hunter’s role at Burisma, the political access he was peddling, and Joe Biden’s knowledge of that work. Hunter’s former partner, Devon Archer, previously told Congress that “Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the [Biden] brand attached to it.”

Ways and Means also received new emails from Mr. Ziegler that are revealing about what Burisma wanted from Hunter. One email is from Vadym Pozharsky, an adviser to Burisma, to Hunter in April 2015. The Ukrainian thanked Hunter for “the opportunity to meet your father and spent (sp) some time together.”

Another Pozharsky email to Hunter (which copies Mr. Schwerin) in November 2015 asks Hunter for thoughts on a proposal for a contract for a U.S. lobbying firm, Blue Star Strategies. Mr. Pozharsky worries about the lack of “concrete, tangible results” listed in the proposal, including how the firm will improve Mr. Zlochevky’s “case.”

Mr. Pozharsky says it’s okay if the omission was to be on “the safe and cautious side,” so long as “all parties in fact understand the true purpose” of the contract. He then spells that out, saying the Blue Star work needs to include arranging a visit of “widely recognized and influential current and/or former US policy-makers to Ukraine . . . to close down for any cases/pursuits against [Zlochevsky] in Ukraine.”

An October 2016 email between a Blue Star employee and Mr. Schwerin includes the news that the Ukrainian government had ended its probe into Mr. Zlochevsky (about eight months after the Ukrainian prosecutor was fired). Mr. Schwerin congratulates the team on its “awesome work.” The Blue Star employee writes: “Thanks. U brought us in so take a victory lap.”

All of this suggests Joe Biden was fully aware that Hunter was selling the family “brand,” and that the Vice President was helping with the sale. It also raises new questions about the connection between Hunter’s job at Burisma and Joe’s work getting the Ukrainian prosecutor of Mr. Zlochevsky fired. None of it looks good.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:58 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:51 pm You certainly haven't been wailing about Trump's fraud, tax fraud through the decades, or his invitations to public corruption. Nor his family members. We get it.
I don't need to. It's being adjudicated in the courts & we're getting copious reporting on it. His family members also testified before Congress.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:15 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:58 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:51 pm You certainly haven't been wailing about Trump's fraud, tax fraud through the decades, or his invitations to public corruption. Nor his family members. We get it.
I don't need to. It's being adjudicated in the courts & we're getting copious reporting on it. His family members also testified before Congress.
mmm, Hunter's issues are being adjudicated as well, and way beyond just the average tax avoider.

Trump's skated on tax fraud for decades, now beyond statute of limitations, his various businesses and charity have been found fraudulent, and yet he has nowhere near paid an appropriate price for all of this.

His invitations to public corruption were blatant and egregious and yet he's been sheltered by a GOP in thrall. His family members "testified before Congress"??? Willingly, openly and honestly??? Really?

Which Party is openly trying to defund the IRS and has quietly been trying to do so for decades?

Seriously, why do you think that is? Do you think the GOP is enthusiastic about billionaires and large corporations paying all their taxes due? Tax cheats forced to pay up?

Which is now trying to defund DOJ ?

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:29 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:15 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:58 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:51 pm You certainly haven't been wailing about Trump's fraud, tax fraud through the decades, or his invitations to public corruption. Nor his family members. We get it.
I don't need to. It's being adjudicated in the courts & we're getting copious reporting on it. His family members also testified before Congress.
mmm, Hunter's issues are being adjudicated as well, and way beyond just the average tax avoider.

Trump's skated on tax fraud for decades, now beyond statute of limitations, his various businesses and charity have been found fraudulent, and yet he has nowhere near paid an appropriate price for all of this.

His invitations to public corruption were blatant and egregious and yet he's been sheltered by a GOP in thrall. His family members "testified before Congress"??? Willingly, openly and honestly??? Really?

Which Party is openly trying to defund the IRS and has quietly been trying to do so for decades?

Seriously, why do you think that is? Do you think the GOP is enthusiastic about billionaires and large corporations paying all their taxes due? Tax cheats forced to pay up?

Which is now trying to defund DOJ ?
Hunter is well beyond "the average tax avoider", unless you consider Manafort to have been the average.

Are the IRS whistleblowers still receiving government pay & benefits ?

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:57 pm
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:29 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:15 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:58 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:51 pm You certainly haven't been wailing about Trump's fraud, tax fraud through the decades, or his invitations to public corruption. Nor his family members. We get it.
I don't need to. It's being adjudicated in the courts & we're getting copious reporting on it. His family members also testified before Congress.
mmm, Hunter's issues are being adjudicated as well, and way beyond just the average tax avoider.

Trump's skated on tax fraud for decades, now beyond statute of limitations, his various businesses and charity have been found fraudulent, and yet he has nowhere near paid an appropriate price for all of this.

His invitations to public corruption were blatant and egregious and yet he's been sheltered by a GOP in thrall. His family members "testified before Congress"??? Willingly, openly and honestly??? Really?

Which Party is openly trying to defund the IRS and has quietly been trying to do so for decades?

Seriously, why do you think that is? Do you think the GOP is enthusiastic about billionaires and large corporations paying all their taxes due? Tax cheats forced to pay up?

Which is now trying to defund DOJ ?
Hunter is well beyond "the average tax avoider", unless you consider Manafort to have been the average.

Are the IRS whistleblowers still receiving government pay & benefits ?
https://www.propublica.org/article/the- ... income-tax
He has some company in pay no taxes club

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/ ... s-n1270069

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:05 pm
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:57 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:29 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:15 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:58 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:51 pm You certainly haven't been wailing about Trump's fraud, tax fraud through the decades, or his invitations to public corruption. Nor his family members. We get it.
I don't need to. It's being adjudicated in the courts & we're getting copious reporting on it. His family members also testified before Congress.
mmm, Hunter's issues are being adjudicated as well, and way beyond just the average tax avoider.

Trump's skated on tax fraud for decades, now beyond statute of limitations, his various businesses and charity have been found fraudulent, and yet he has nowhere near paid an appropriate price for all of this.

His invitations to public corruption were blatant and egregious and yet he's been sheltered by a GOP in thrall. His family members "testified before Congress"??? Willingly, openly and honestly??? Really?

Which Party is openly trying to defund the IRS and has quietly been trying to do so for decades?

Seriously, why do you think that is? Do you think the GOP is enthusiastic about billionaires and large corporations paying all their taxes due? Tax cheats forced to pay up?

Which is now trying to defund DOJ ?
Hunter is well beyond "the average tax avoider", unless you consider Manafort to have been the average.

Are the IRS whistleblowers still receiving government pay & benefits ?
https://www.propublica.org/article/the- ... income-tax
He has some company in pay no taxes club

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/ ... s-n1270069
Using loopholes in the tax code makes it OK to cheat ?
obtw -- you posted the propublica link, I didn't.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:14 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:13 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.
You have no idea how stupid you sound.
:mrgreen:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden- ... y-d77f2eb5

Joe Biden’s Assist to Hunter’s Business
New emails suggest what Burisma really wanted from the Bidens.
By The Editorial Board, Dec. 6, 2023

House investigators keep digging into the Biden family business, and this week comes new evidence of the ways Joe Biden helped his son using alias email accounts.
Internal Revenue Service agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler provided to the House Ways and Means Committee more information from their multiyear investigation into Hunter Biden’s taxes and business.

The documents include an 11-page log showing a list of 327 emails that Joe Biden sent or received from 2010 to 2019 under pseudonyms that included “robinware456” and “robert.l.peters.” Mr. Biden was a big user of these shadow accounts, with the National Archives and Records Administration disclosing that it has up to 82,000 pages of emails and documents sent or received under Biden aliases while he was Vice President.

The 327 emails listed in the log are exchanges between Joe Biden and Hunter or Eric Schwerin, a former Hunter business partner who handled Biden family finances. The committee says 54 of the exchanges are between Joe Biden and Mr. Schwerin.

Five emails were exchanged within five days of Mr. Biden’s June 2014 trip to Ukraine, while another 27 were exchanged prior to his return trip to Ukraine in November 2014. Those trips coincided with Hunter’s lucrative board position at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.

The trips preceded then Vice President’s Biden’s 2015 role in forcing the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma and its CEO, Nikolai Zlochevsky, for corruption. Another 38 emails originated from within the White House and were sent to Joe Biden aliases, with Hunter Biden copied.

The committee doesn’t know the contents of the emails, but further evidence provided to Congress raises questions about Hunter’s role at Burisma, the political access he was peddling, and Joe Biden’s knowledge of that work. Hunter’s former partner, Devon Archer, previously told Congress that “Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the [Biden] brand attached to it.”

Ways and Means also received new emails from Mr. Ziegler that are revealing about what Burisma wanted from Hunter. One email is from Vadym Pozharsky, an adviser to Burisma, to Hunter in April 2015. The Ukrainian thanked Hunter for “the opportunity to meet your father and spent (sp) some time together.”

Another Pozharsky email to Hunter (which copies Mr. Schwerin) in November 2015 asks Hunter for thoughts on a proposal for a contract for a U.S. lobbying firm, Blue Star Strategies. Mr. Pozharsky worries about the lack of “concrete, tangible results” listed in the proposal, including how the firm will improve Mr. Zlochevky’s “case.”

Mr. Pozharsky says it’s okay if the omission was to be on “the safe and cautious side,” so long as “all parties in fact understand the true purpose” of the contract. He then spells that out, saying the Blue Star work needs to include arranging a visit of “widely recognized and influential current and/or former US policy-makers to Ukraine . . . to close down for any cases/pursuits against [Zlochevsky] in Ukraine.”

An October 2016 email between a Blue Star employee and Mr. Schwerin includes the news that the Ukrainian government had ended its probe into Mr. Zlochevsky (about eight months after the Ukrainian prosecutor was fired). Mr. Schwerin congratulates the team on its “awesome work.” The Blue Star employee writes: “Thanks. U brought us in so take a victory lap.”

All of this suggests Joe Biden was fully aware that Hunter was selling the family “brand,” and that the Vice President was helping with the sale. It also raises new questions about the connection between Hunter’s job at Burisma and Joe’s work getting the Ukrainian prosecutor of Mr. Zlochevsky fired. None of it looks good.
:mrgreen: Republican nominee for POTUS seeking to work with Russians to get elected and lied to government officials didn’t bother you but Hunter not paying his taxes did. On what planet is that not stupid?

:mrgreen:

Oh its the Crime Family thing not Hunter not paying taxes? You are also a liar.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:30 pm
by cradleandshoot
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:14 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:13 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.
You have no idea how stupid you sound.
:mrgreen:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden- ... y-d77f2eb5

Joe Biden’s Assist to Hunter’s Business
New emails suggest what Burisma really wanted from the Bidens.
By The Editorial Board, Dec. 6, 2023

House investigators keep digging into the Biden family business, and this week comes new evidence of the ways Joe Biden helped his son using alias email accounts.
Internal Revenue Service agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler provided to the House Ways and Means Committee more information from their multiyear investigation into Hunter Biden’s taxes and business.

The documents include an 11-page log showing a list of 327 emails that Joe Biden sent or received from 2010 to 2019 under pseudonyms that included “robinware456” and “robert.l.peters.” Mr. Biden was a big user of these shadow accounts, with the National Archives and Records Administration disclosing that it has up to 82,000 pages of emails and documents sent or received under Biden aliases while he was Vice President.

The 327 emails listed in the log are exchanges between Joe Biden and Hunter or Eric Schwerin, a former Hunter business partner who handled Biden family finances. The committee says 54 of the exchanges are between Joe Biden and Mr. Schwerin.

Five emails were exchanged within five days of Mr. Biden’s June 2014 trip to Ukraine, while another 27 were exchanged prior to his return trip to Ukraine in November 2014. Those trips coincided with Hunter’s lucrative board position at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.

The trips preceded then Vice President’s Biden’s 2015 role in forcing the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma and its CEO, Nikolai Zlochevsky, for corruption. Another 38 emails originated from within the White House and were sent to Joe Biden aliases, with Hunter Biden copied.

The committee doesn’t know the contents of the emails, but further evidence provided to Congress raises questions about Hunter’s role at Burisma, the political access he was peddling, and Joe Biden’s knowledge of that work. Hunter’s former partner, Devon Archer, previously told Congress that “Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the [Biden] brand attached to it.”

Ways and Means also received new emails from Mr. Ziegler that are revealing about what Burisma wanted from Hunter. One email is from Vadym Pozharsky, an adviser to Burisma, to Hunter in April 2015. The Ukrainian thanked Hunter for “the opportunity to meet your father and spent (sp) some time together.”

Another Pozharsky email to Hunter (which copies Mr. Schwerin) in November 2015 asks Hunter for thoughts on a proposal for a contract for a U.S. lobbying firm, Blue Star Strategies. Mr. Pozharsky worries about the lack of “concrete, tangible results” listed in the proposal, including how the firm will improve Mr. Zlochevky’s “case.”

Mr. Pozharsky says it’s okay if the omission was to be on “the safe and cautious side,” so long as “all parties in fact understand the true purpose” of the contract. He then spells that out, saying the Blue Star work needs to include arranging a visit of “widely recognized and influential current and/or former US policy-makers to Ukraine . . . to close down for any cases/pursuits against [Zlochevsky] in Ukraine.”

An October 2016 email between a Blue Star employee and Mr. Schwerin includes the news that the Ukrainian government had ended its probe into Mr. Zlochevsky (about eight months after the Ukrainian prosecutor was fired). Mr. Schwerin congratulates the team on its “awesome work.” The Blue Star employee writes: “Thanks. U brought us in so take a victory lap.”

All of this suggests Joe Biden was fully aware that Hunter was selling the family “brand,” and that the Vice President was helping with the sale. It also raises new questions about the connection between Hunter’s job at Burisma and Joe’s work getting the Ukrainian prosecutor of Mr. Zlochevsky fired. None of it looks good.
:mrgreen: Republican nominee for POTUS seeking to work with Russians to get elected and lied to government officials didn’t bother you but Hunter not paying his taxes did. On what planet is that not stupid?

:mrgreen:

Oh its the Crime Family thing not Hunter not paying taxes? You are also a liar.
It was when Al Capone tried to get away? Of course way back then the IRS had no hesitation about prosecuting people and sending them to jail. Refresh my memory here, did the government ever offer Scarface a plea deal?

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:45 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:30 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:14 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:13 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.
You have no idea how stupid you sound.
:mrgreen:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden- ... y-d77f2eb5

Joe Biden’s Assist to Hunter’s Business
New emails suggest what Burisma really wanted from the Bidens.
By The Editorial Board, Dec. 6, 2023

House investigators keep digging into the Biden family business, and this week comes new evidence of the ways Joe Biden helped his son using alias email accounts.
Internal Revenue Service agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler provided to the House Ways and Means Committee more information from their multiyear investigation into Hunter Biden’s taxes and business.

The documents include an 11-page log showing a list of 327 emails that Joe Biden sent or received from 2010 to 2019 under pseudonyms that included “robinware456” and “robert.l.peters.” Mr. Biden was a big user of these shadow accounts, with the National Archives and Records Administration disclosing that it has up to 82,000 pages of emails and documents sent or received under Biden aliases while he was Vice President.

The 327 emails listed in the log are exchanges between Joe Biden and Hunter or Eric Schwerin, a former Hunter business partner who handled Biden family finances. The committee says 54 of the exchanges are between Joe Biden and Mr. Schwerin.

Five emails were exchanged within five days of Mr. Biden’s June 2014 trip to Ukraine, while another 27 were exchanged prior to his return trip to Ukraine in November 2014. Those trips coincided with Hunter’s lucrative board position at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.

The trips preceded then Vice President’s Biden’s 2015 role in forcing the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma and its CEO, Nikolai Zlochevsky, for corruption. Another 38 emails originated from within the White House and were sent to Joe Biden aliases, with Hunter Biden copied.

The committee doesn’t know the contents of the emails, but further evidence provided to Congress raises questions about Hunter’s role at Burisma, the political access he was peddling, and Joe Biden’s knowledge of that work. Hunter’s former partner, Devon Archer, previously told Congress that “Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the [Biden] brand attached to it.”

Ways and Means also received new emails from Mr. Ziegler that are revealing about what Burisma wanted from Hunter. One email is from Vadym Pozharsky, an adviser to Burisma, to Hunter in April 2015. The Ukrainian thanked Hunter for “the opportunity to meet your father and spent (sp) some time together.”

Another Pozharsky email to Hunter (which copies Mr. Schwerin) in November 2015 asks Hunter for thoughts on a proposal for a contract for a U.S. lobbying firm, Blue Star Strategies. Mr. Pozharsky worries about the lack of “concrete, tangible results” listed in the proposal, including how the firm will improve Mr. Zlochevky’s “case.”

Mr. Pozharsky says it’s okay if the omission was to be on “the safe and cautious side,” so long as “all parties in fact understand the true purpose” of the contract. He then spells that out, saying the Blue Star work needs to include arranging a visit of “widely recognized and influential current and/or former US policy-makers to Ukraine . . . to close down for any cases/pursuits against [Zlochevsky] in Ukraine.”

An October 2016 email between a Blue Star employee and Mr. Schwerin includes the news that the Ukrainian government had ended its probe into Mr. Zlochevsky (about eight months after the Ukrainian prosecutor was fired). Mr. Schwerin congratulates the team on its “awesome work.” The Blue Star employee writes: “Thanks. U brought us in so take a victory lap.”

All of this suggests Joe Biden was fully aware that Hunter was selling the family “brand,” and that the Vice President was helping with the sale. It also raises new questions about the connection between Hunter’s job at Burisma and Joe’s work getting the Ukrainian prosecutor of Mr. Zlochevsky fired. None of it looks good.
:mrgreen: Republican nominee for POTUS seeking to work with Russians to get elected and lied to government officials didn’t bother you but Hunter not paying his taxes did. On what planet is that not stupid?

:mrgreen:

Oh its the Crime Family thing not Hunter not paying taxes? You are also a liar.
It was when Al Capone tried to get away? Of course way back then the IRS had no hesitation about prosecuting people and sending them to jail. Refresh my memory here, did the government ever offer Scarface a plea deal?
You also sound stupid.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:05 pm
by cradleandshoot
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:45 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:30 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:14 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:13 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:46 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am Salty: "I just want Hunter to declare his income, file & pay his taxes, like I do." :roll:

Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Of course, that's the point of this...there's no 'do over' for Hunter. He was a mess, a drug addict, and he parlayed his name and presumed access to fund his profligate lifestyle, avoiding paying taxes ("like I do") along the way. A mess. Guilty of tax evasion and then scrambling to get them paid up...just like any admitted tax avoider is allowed to do as part of their cooperation with the government. Not "like I do", but just like lots of other tax avoiders. He'll live with the shame of his past for the rest of his life.

But this is not about Hunter, much less "wanting" him to pay taxes...see Salty's "want" turn to obsession with the pivot to "Biden family finances".

We've been waiting for years for even a shred of evidence that Joe Biden is corrupt, that he did anything illegal. Nada that holds up to scrutiny. Lots of wild-eyed claims, but then they turn out to be bupkis. Nada.

But Salty and his MAGA kin want to pretend the the "Biden (Crime) Family" are dirty, or at least dirty enough to excuse an actual Criminal who wants to be re-elected POTUS and is currently the run away front runner for nomination by the past party of law and order...

Disgraceful.

But...squirrel....!
Try to divert & fuzz it over, but it's real simple. What were the sources of Hunter's income ? Did he declare ALL that was taxable & pay taxes on it ? Did he follow tax laws when transferring income to other family members ? I comply with the law on gift taxes, does he ? Loans I made are documented & interest declared & taxes paid on it. I've documented it. If audited, & my bank records examined, I expect to be questioned on it & am prepared to answer. I just want Hunter to be held accountable to the same tax laws that I am.
You have no idea how stupid you sound.
:mrgreen:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden- ... y-d77f2eb5

Joe Biden’s Assist to Hunter’s Business
New emails suggest what Burisma really wanted from the Bidens.
By The Editorial Board, Dec. 6, 2023

House investigators keep digging into the Biden family business, and this week comes new evidence of the ways Joe Biden helped his son using alias email accounts.
Internal Revenue Service agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler provided to the House Ways and Means Committee more information from their multiyear investigation into Hunter Biden’s taxes and business.

The documents include an 11-page log showing a list of 327 emails that Joe Biden sent or received from 2010 to 2019 under pseudonyms that included “robinware456” and “robert.l.peters.” Mr. Biden was a big user of these shadow accounts, with the National Archives and Records Administration disclosing that it has up to 82,000 pages of emails and documents sent or received under Biden aliases while he was Vice President.

The 327 emails listed in the log are exchanges between Joe Biden and Hunter or Eric Schwerin, a former Hunter business partner who handled Biden family finances. The committee says 54 of the exchanges are between Joe Biden and Mr. Schwerin.

Five emails were exchanged within five days of Mr. Biden’s June 2014 trip to Ukraine, while another 27 were exchanged prior to his return trip to Ukraine in November 2014. Those trips coincided with Hunter’s lucrative board position at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.

The trips preceded then Vice President’s Biden’s 2015 role in forcing the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma and its CEO, Nikolai Zlochevsky, for corruption. Another 38 emails originated from within the White House and were sent to Joe Biden aliases, with Hunter Biden copied.

The committee doesn’t know the contents of the emails, but further evidence provided to Congress raises questions about Hunter’s role at Burisma, the political access he was peddling, and Joe Biden’s knowledge of that work. Hunter’s former partner, Devon Archer, previously told Congress that “Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the [Biden] brand attached to it.”

Ways and Means also received new emails from Mr. Ziegler that are revealing about what Burisma wanted from Hunter. One email is from Vadym Pozharsky, an adviser to Burisma, to Hunter in April 2015. The Ukrainian thanked Hunter for “the opportunity to meet your father and spent (sp) some time together.”

Another Pozharsky email to Hunter (which copies Mr. Schwerin) in November 2015 asks Hunter for thoughts on a proposal for a contract for a U.S. lobbying firm, Blue Star Strategies. Mr. Pozharsky worries about the lack of “concrete, tangible results” listed in the proposal, including how the firm will improve Mr. Zlochevky’s “case.”

Mr. Pozharsky says it’s okay if the omission was to be on “the safe and cautious side,” so long as “all parties in fact understand the true purpose” of the contract. He then spells that out, saying the Blue Star work needs to include arranging a visit of “widely recognized and influential current and/or former US policy-makers to Ukraine . . . to close down for any cases/pursuits against [Zlochevsky] in Ukraine.”

An October 2016 email between a Blue Star employee and Mr. Schwerin includes the news that the Ukrainian government had ended its probe into Mr. Zlochevsky (about eight months after the Ukrainian prosecutor was fired). Mr. Schwerin congratulates the team on its “awesome work.” The Blue Star employee writes: “Thanks. U brought us in so take a victory lap.”

All of this suggests Joe Biden was fully aware that Hunter was selling the family “brand,” and that the Vice President was helping with the sale. It also raises new questions about the connection between Hunter’s job at Burisma and Joe’s work getting the Ukrainian prosecutor of Mr. Zlochevsky fired. None of it looks good.
:mrgreen: Republican nominee for POTUS seeking to work with Russians to get elected and lied to government officials didn’t bother you but Hunter not paying his taxes did. On what planet is that not stupid?

:mrgreen:

Oh its the Crime Family thing not Hunter not paying taxes? You are also a liar.
It was when Al Capone tried to get away? Of course way back then the IRS had no hesitation about prosecuting people and sending them to jail. Refresh my memory here, did the government ever offer Scarface a plea deal?
You also sound stupid.
Fooled you, not like that is hard to do. ;) Actually I'm very dog gone smart. A big plus for me is I always pay my taxes. Unlike some people who try to cheat the government out of what is rightfully theirs. Uncle Sam doesn't play that game. You pay your taxes there slick, I'm just asking for a friend.