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a fan wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 3:18 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 2:11 pm You miss the point, as ever. You sure you attended an Ivy?

The point, to be very clear, is when your brethren of the Left descend on the board and falsely claim 'blue states pay for red states' (insert Howard Dean scream), that payment imbalance is caused precisely because of blue state-favored entitlement policies. Federally mandated entitlement policies were proposed and passed, and today are favored, by blue state voters, the same ones here making the charge. A little honesty here?

So you're telling me that you think Republicans from Red States didn't vote for all these programs?

Whew. Good one. Want me to start listing the bills and the votes for you? Pre Covid, Trump signed four massive spending bills totaling just under $4 Trillion in NEW spending. Only $800 Billion went to the military. So that's over $3 Trillion in social programs that are stuffed with handouts to all walks of life in America.

And this, of course, doesn't include a few hundred Billion in cash payments to farmers for...wait for it....nothing.

And you want to pretend that both Republicans and Republicans didn't vote for this money, and don't actually want this money. So your University of Florida last year got $776 million from the Federal government in one single year....and what you're telling us is....they don't want that money.

Great news. Let me know when I can have my tax dollars back!

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 2:11 pm By the way, it's hilarious to read true Democrat posts where you fall completely for the extremely lazy canard of 'red states would let the poor die'. Red states, far more than blue states, rely on charity and church to rectify perceived income or poverty gaps, not government.

Where do you think the NGO's and Charities get a ton of their funding? The Federal government cuts checks for dozens of programs that sends money to NGO's that help, for example, get Florida residents work training to get them back into the workforce.

https://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/file ... ing_fl.pdf


You don't understand what your Republican representatives are doing. You're, sadly, buying into their political nonsense. "Gee whiz, we don't actually want this Federal money...but whoops, we keep accidentally voting for it". Riiiiight.

Look, it's simple, but you don't want to hear it. All you have to do is pretend there isn't a Federal Government, and each State is its own country.

What would that look like? Stop with your R's and D's thing, and simply think for yourself for five freaking minutes.

And remember----the Federal government has borrowed Trillions of dollars the last few years, and sent it to all 50 States. So picture that money getting cut off, and each State having to go it alone.

This would be a complete catastrophe for just about every State, and yep, that would include a few Dem States.

But by and large? R States like Mitch McConnell's Kentucky would be beyond hosed. Which, of course, is why ol' Mitchey gleefully signed all of those 4 massive spending bills. His State cannot function without that money.

But you want to ignore all this, and pretend like each State wants to go solo. And part that you don't get it----the more that liberals figure out what it would look like if NY, IL, CA et. al. got to keep allllll that money that they normally send to DC for themselves? The more they are going to want what you are asking for....

And if that happens? Lights out, rural America. And good luck to you and your fellow Floridians who have to figure out how to provide health care to 4 Million+ seniors. What's the first thing you'll do? Raise taxes, of course. And yet you keep claiming that this is what you want.

As many of us here keep saying: great news, when can we start your plan?

a fan wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 3:19 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 2:57 pm My belief in federal hurricane funds and insurance is they should not exist. Buyer beware, and pay your own way. That goes for Florida and New York New Jersey (Sandy). Pricing of everything is normalized when the government steps out of the ring. Even if it would hurt some Floridians.

And what do you suppose is the reason that Trump and the Republicans didn't kill FEMA during the first two years of Trump's reign?

Think it through, and get back to us.


Because where do I sign to end FEMA and all insurance subsidies? Let me know.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 4:43 pm

Only Democratic-run states...interesting. Is Idaho seeking assistance? Wyoming? Florida? Hello? Is anyone there?

a fan wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:41 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 4:43 pm

Only Democratic-run states...interesting. Is Idaho seeking assistance? Wyoming? Florida? Hello? Is anyone there?

Maybe only the Dems can add and subtract.

Or do you think that other States won't have massive fiscal shortfalls? Florida doesn't need all those lost tourist dollars?

Great. Don't bail anyone out. Problem solved. Works for me.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:29 pm For some reason, I always thought the people who ‘can’t add and subtract’ are the ones who go bankrupt, like, say, Democratic cities and states. But now it’s the states that have rainy day funds set aside too!

CU88 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 pm hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahaahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhahahahahahha



Bloomberg@business
Republicans say the U.S. deficit is becoming problematic

GOP Rekindles Deficit Concerns, Adding Snag to Talks on Aid
The flood of pandemic-relief spending from Washington has rekindled deficit concerns among Republican lawmakers, one of several hurdles facing the next round of stimulus many economists say is needed...

bloomberg.com
6:49 AM · May 11, 2020

a fan wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:41 pm

CU88 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 pm hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahaahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhahahahahahha



Bloomberg@business
Republicans say the U.S. deficit is becoming problematic

GOP Rekindles Deficit Concerns, Adding Snag to Talks on Aid
The flood of pandemic-relief spending from Washington has rekindled deficit concerns among Republican lawmakers, one of several hurdles facing the next round of stimulus many economists say is needed...

bloomberg.com
6:49 AM · May 11, 2020

You could see this coming from 1,000 miles away, couldn't you? Odd, they didn't care when Trump was having his little RichMan party, and adding $4 Trillion to spending.

Works for me, though. Don't do anymore bailouts. But if I were an incumbent, I sure as *hit wouldn't want to try and get reelected with unemployment at 20%+

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:35 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:41 pm

CU88 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 pm hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahaahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhahahahahahha



Bloomberg@business
Republicans say the U.S. deficit is becoming problematic

GOP Rekindles Deficit Concerns, Adding Snag to Talks on Aid
The flood of pandemic-relief spending from Washington has rekindled deficit concerns among Republican lawmakers, one of several hurdles facing the next round of stimulus many economists say is needed...

bloomberg.com
6:49 AM · May 11, 2020

You could see this coming from 1,000 miles away, couldn't you? Odd, they didn't care when Trump was having his little RichMan party, and adding $4 Trillion to spending.

Works for me, though. Don't do anymore bailouts. But if I were an incumbent, I sure as *hit wouldn't want to try and get reelected with unemployment at 20%+

Stop bureaucrats pay checks. States would open their economies so fast head woulds spin.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:41 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:35 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:41 pm

CU88 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 pm hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahaahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhahahahahahha



Bloomberg@business
Republicans say the U.S. deficit is becoming problematic

GOP Rekindles Deficit Concerns, Adding Snag to Talks on Aid
The flood of pandemic-relief spending from Washington has rekindled deficit concerns among Republican lawmakers, one of several hurdles facing the next round of stimulus many economists say is needed...

bloomberg.com
6:49 AM · May 11, 2020

You could see this coming from 1,000 miles away, couldn't you? Odd, they didn't care when Trump was having his little RichMan party, and adding $4 Trillion to spending.

Works for me, though. Don't do anymore bailouts. But if I were an incumbent, I sure as *hit wouldn't want to try and get reelected with unemployment at 20%+

Stop bureaucrats pay checks. States would open their economies so fast head woulds spin.

I'd propose that Illinois stop paying all government officials, especially that jelly donut glutton Pritzker. Illinois is sliding really fast now (see my post above this; today was a big day)...which is a good thing. Not good if you work for the state government, but they need to fail in order for someone who has some brains to reset all the pension schemes and other outrageous spending by the state.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:43 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:41 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:35 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:41 pm

CU88 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 pm hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahaahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhahahahahahha



Bloomberg@business
Republicans say the U.S. deficit is becoming problematic

GOP Rekindles Deficit Concerns, Adding Snag to Talks on Aid
The flood of pandemic-relief spending from Washington has rekindled deficit concerns among Republican lawmakers, one of several hurdles facing the next round of stimulus many economists say is needed...

bloomberg.com
6:49 AM · May 11, 2020

You could see this coming from 1,000 miles away, couldn't you? Odd, they didn't care when Trump was having his little RichMan party, and adding $4 Trillion to spending.

Works for me, though. Don't do anymore bailouts. But if I were an incumbent, I sure as *hit wouldn't want to try and get reelected with unemployment at 20%+

Stop bureaucrats pay checks. States would open their economies so fast head woulds spin.

I'd propose that Illinois stop paying all government officials, especially that jelly donut glutton Pritzker. Illinois is sliding really fast now (see my post above this; today was a big day)...which is a good thing. Not good if you work for the state government, but they need to fail in order for someone who has some brains to reset all the pension schemes and other outrageous spending by the state.

Be careful what you wish for. When the states fail, it provides more fuel for the Feds to run the show....not sure we really want that.