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youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:37 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 6:30 am For a guy who has tried to erase President Obama's legacy at every possible turn, and was cheered on by the r's, Trump reached a major milestone yesterday.

All those jobs President Obama created are gone.

Logical fallacy. Did you spend the night at Doc B's last night? That's the kind of silly argument he would project.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:03 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:37 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 6:30 am For a guy who has tried to erase President Obama's legacy at every possible turn, and was cheered on by the r's, Trump reached a major milestone yesterday.

All those jobs President Obama created are gone.

Logical fallacy. Did you spend the night at Doc B's last night? That's the kind of silly argument he would project.

Youth: you don't understand how Democrats view Presidents.

First and foremost, Presidents to Democrats are establishment father figures (similar ironically to how Russians view their presidents; read this article and substitute 'Obama' for Putin and you'll understand: https://www.newsweek.com/2014/12/05/put ... 86464.html ). Naturally a Dem will say 'but Trump', failing to understand that 'Trump' (and the adulation of him) is less about a father figure and way more a metaphor for sticking it to the establishment; Trump is not the establishment by any stretch nor is he anyone's father figure.

Second and nearly as importantly, they assume that Presidents 'create' jobs, not the people who actually create jobs, entrepreneurs. This shows a fundamental disconnect with capitalism, and why (as I repeat too often) Democrat policies are the antithesis of what America is all about.

It's an odd thing to read anyone who thinks a President 'created' a job; its' amusing and scary at the same time.

The best thing a President can do for actual job creators is get out of the way. Too often, they don't.

Obama is responsible for all of 4 jobs in his entire life; those are the cooks and cleaners in his various houses. However, Obama is a net job destroyer, since he utilizes the services of taxpayer-paid (that is, it comes out of your pocket, not his) Secret Service employees numbering 12. Obama's post-presidency life has been about one thing: fattening his own bank account, and that's fair; really, who cares if people are dumb enough to pay to listen to him give a speech.

Meanwhile, CU77 thinks Obama created jobs.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:48 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:20 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am A bull market requires hands-off from politicians. A pandemic requires hands-on.

Guess what happens to markets when politicians are hands-on?

You mean like Trump blowing $4 Trillion in borrowed money, and pumping it through the economy in his first 3 years?

Oh totally. That had ZERO effect on the US economy.

Just poorly educated.

When you say "educated"....do you college degrees?

And yet.....we listen to the billionare NON college degree creep.......Billy at the Welfare VAPE machine keeping the Gates open....

oh, he's different

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:41 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:48 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:20 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am A bull market requires hands-off from politicians. A pandemic requires hands-on.

Guess what happens to markets when politicians are hands-on?

You mean like Trump blowing $4 Trillion in borrowed money, and pumping it through the economy in his first 3 years?

Oh totally. That had ZERO effect on the US economy.

Just poorly educated.

When you say "educated"....do you college degrees?

And yet.....we listen to the billionare NON college degree creep.......Billy at the Welfare VAPE machine keeping the Gates open....

oh, he's different

Don’t know how many times I have to say it, you don’t have to go to college to be educated. A willingness and interest in exercising one’s intellect can go a long way.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:03 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:37 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 6:30 am For a guy who has tried to erase President Obama's legacy at every possible turn, and was cheered on by the r's, Trump reached a major milestone yesterday.

All those jobs President Obama created are gone.

Logical fallacy. Did you spend the night at Doc B's last night? That's the kind of silly argument he would project.

Youth: you don't understand how Democrats view Presidents.

First and foremost, Presidents to Democrats are establishment father figures (similar ironically to how Russians view their presidents; read this article and substitute 'Obama' for Putin and you'll understand: https://www.newsweek.com/2014/12/05/put ... 86464.html ). Naturally a Dem will say 'but Trump', failing to understand that 'Trump' (and the adulation of him) is less about a father figure and way more a metaphor for sticking it to the establishment; Trump is not the establishment by any stretch nor is he anyone's father figure.

Second and nearly as importantly, they assume that Presidents 'create' jobs, not the people who actually create jobs, entrepreneurs. This shows a fundamental disconnect with capitalism, and why (as I repeat too often) Democrat policies are the antithesis of what America is all about.

It's an odd thing to read anyone who thinks a President 'created' a job; its' amusing and scary at the same time.

The best thing a President can do for actual job creators is get out of the way. Too often, they don't.

Obama is responsible for all of 4 jobs in his entire life; those are the cooks and cleaners in his various houses. However, Obama is a net job destroyer, since he utilizes the services of taxpayer-paid (that is, it comes out of your pocket, not his) Secret Service employees numbering 12. Obama's post-presidency life has been about one thing: fattening his own bank account, and that's fair; really, who cares if people are dumb enough to pay to listen to him give a speech.

Meanwhile, CU77 thinks Obama created jobs.

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:41 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:48 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:20 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am A bull market requires hands-off from politicians. A pandemic requires hands-on.

Guess what happens to markets when politicians are hands-on?

You mean like Trump blowing $4 Trillion in borrowed money, and pumping it through the economy in his first 3 years?

Oh totally. That had ZERO effect on the US economy.

Just poorly educated.

When you say "educated"....do you college degrees?

And yet.....we listen to the billionare NON college degree creep.......Billy at the Welfare VAPE machine keeping the Gates open....

oh, he's different

Don’t know how many times I have to say it, you don’t have to go to college to be educated. A willingness and interest in exercising one’s intellect can go a long way.

Just poorly educated.

This is what you wrote.

I would agree. Bill Gates is poorly educated in the life sciences. VERY POORLY educated. Last we checked ....no one was putting Peter Brown on the tv infotainment shows.

What is wrong with being fixated with Bill? He controls what's going on. You devour all things orange man, or whatever you call him. ALL things. Why the obsession? taats is feeding you nibbles, but still, NO room for you in the ark, tld. Do you get to play with some of bill and friends money?

exactly

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am (omitted)

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

How can you, the collective you, speak out of one side of your mouth that the v-19 virus is SERIOUS. That shutting down the ecomony is needed to stop the spread. And, out of the other side, blame the President......for a naturally occurring virus outbreak/pandemic, which necessatates the need to shut the economy down, that it's the POTUSA's fault that 50 million US residents are unemployed? It's moronic. If not hypocritical.

Unless, you feel that tRump should NOT have shut the economy down

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:15 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am (omitted)

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

How can you, the collective you, speak out of one side of your mouth that the v-19 virus is SERIOUS. That shutting down the ecomony is needed to stop the spread. And, out of the other side, blame the President......for a naturally occurring virus outbreak/pandemic, which necessatates the need to shut the economy down, that it's the POTUSA's fault that 50 million US residents are unemployed? It's moronic. If not hypocritical.

Unless, you feel that tRump should NOT have shut the economy down

My beef with Trump is he fumbled the response - and that means that the death toll we are likely to see is orders of magnitude above what it would be if he had taken decisive action early (but was too concerned with how it would wreck the only thing he could sell for re-election - the economy). We could have had less than 10K deaths at this point if the federal government had launched a massive response early.

And he continues to screw it up.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:03 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:41 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:48 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:20 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am A bull market requires hands-off from politicians. A pandemic requires hands-on.

Guess what happens to markets when politicians are hands-on?

You mean like Trump blowing $4 Trillion in borrowed money, and pumping it through the economy in his first 3 years?

Oh totally. That had ZERO effect on the US economy.

Just poorly educated.

When you say "educated"....do you college degrees?

And yet.....we listen to the billionare NON college degree creep.......Billy at the Welfare VAPE machine keeping the Gates open....

oh, he's different

Don’t know how many times I have to say it, you don’t have to go to college to be educated. A willingness and interest in exercising one’s intellect can go a long way.

Just poorly educated.

This is what you wrote.

I would agree. Bill Gates is poorly educated in the life sciences. VERY POORLY educated. Last we checked ....no one was putting Peter Brown on the tv infotainment shows.

What is wrong with being fixated with Bill? He controls what's going on. You devour all things orange man, or whatever you call him. ALL things. Why the obsession? taats is feeding you nibbles, but still, NO room for you in the ark, tld. Do you get to play with some of bill and friends money?

exactly

The subject of the “poorly” educated comment is a guy that claims anything in the public sector is BAD and the private sector is GOOD.... That is from the guy that went to a public college. Not only did he go to an ( in his words) inferior college, he just chased skirts while at Football U in the south. My comment was “sarcasm”... pay attention....as for Bill Gates, you are entitled to your opinion.

# Defending Trump is your Choice

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:15 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am (omitted)

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

How can you, the collective you, speak out of one side of your mouth that the v-19 virus is SERIOUS. That shutting down the ecomony is needed to stop the spread. And, out of the other side, blame the President......for a naturally occurring virus outbreak/pandemic, which necessatates the need to shut the economy down, that it's the POTUSA's fault that 50 million US residents are unemployed? It's moronic. If not hypocritical.

Unless, you feel that tRump should NOT have shut the economy down

My beef with Trump is he fumbled the response - and that means that the death toll we are likely to see is orders of magnitude above what it would be if he had taken decisive action early (but was too concerned with how it would wreck the only thing he could sell for re-election - the economy). We could have had less than 10K deaths at this point if the federal government had launched a massive response early.

And he continues to screw it up.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:40 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:03 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:41 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:47 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:48 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:20 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am A bull market requires hands-off from politicians. A pandemic requires hands-on.

Guess what happens to markets when politicians are hands-on?

You mean like Trump blowing $4 Trillion in borrowed money, and pumping it through the economy in his first 3 years?

Oh totally. That had ZERO effect on the US economy.

Just poorly educated.

When you say "educated"....do you college degrees?

And yet.....we listen to the billionare NON college degree creep.......Billy at the Welfare VAPE machine keeping the Gates open....

oh, he's different

Don’t know how many times I have to say it, you don’t have to go to college to be educated. A willingness and interest in exercising one’s intellect can go a long way.

Just poorly educated.

This is what you wrote.

I would agree. Bill Gates is poorly educated in the life sciences. VERY POORLY educated. Last we checked ....no one was putting Peter Brown on the tv infotainment shows.

What is wrong with being fixated with Bill? He controls what's going on. You devour all things orange man, or whatever you call him. ALL things. Why the obsession? taats is feeding you nibbles, but still, NO room for you in the ark, tld. Do you get to play with some of bill and friends money?

exactly

The subject of the “poorly” educated comment is a guy that claims anything in the public sector is BAD and the private sector is GOOD.... That is from the guy that went to a public college. Not only did he go to an ( in his words) inferior college, he just chased skirts while at Football U in the south. My comment was “sarcasm”... pay attention....as for Bill Gates, you are entitled to your opinion.

# Defending Trump is your Choice

How is pointing out the taats world of Bill Gates defending anyone? Just knock it off....there are more than two choices, opinions....in the world.

Why you fall for Peter Browns pretend act of faux love for tRump......or that Government is bad. Isn't HE just being sarcastic

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:57 am Sure.....I brought up tRump....only me

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:46 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:15 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am (omitted)

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

How can you, the collective you, speak out of one side of your mouth that the v-19 virus is SERIOUS. That shutting down the ecomony is needed to stop the spread. And, out of the other side, blame the President......for a naturally occurring virus outbreak/pandemic, which necessatates the need to shut the economy down, that it's the POTUSA's fault that 50 million US residents are unemployed? It's moronic. If not hypocritical.

Unless, you feel that tRump should NOT have shut the economy down

My beef with Trump is he fumbled the response - and that means that the death toll we are likely to see is orders of magnitude above what it would be if he had taken decisive action early (but was too concerned with how it would wreck the only thing he could sell for re-election - the economy). We could have had less than 10K deaths at this point if the federal government had launched a massive response early.

And he continues to screw it up.

Lots of "could's. But, be specific. What timeline/response SHOULD he have followed? The list of people you respect, from you twitter/event 201 list. COULD they have taken this v-19 a little more seriously? What part of EVENT 201's seven recommendations do you like, RED from ? COme on, these are the people YOU respect. Their recommendations are to NOT shut the economy down. Are they stupid ?

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 11:07 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:46 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:15 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am (omitted)

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

How can you, the collective you, speak out of one side of your mouth that the v-19 virus is SERIOUS. That shutting down the ecomony is needed to stop the spread. And, out of the other side, blame the President......for a naturally occurring virus outbreak/pandemic, which necessatates the need to shut the economy down, that it's the POTUSA's fault that 50 million US residents are unemployed? It's moronic. If not hypocritical.

Unless, you feel that tRump should NOT have shut the economy down

My beef with Trump is he fumbled the response - and that means that the death toll we are likely to see is orders of magnitude above what it would be if he had taken decisive action early (but was too concerned with how it would wreck the only thing he could sell for re-election - the economy). We could have had less than 10K deaths at this point if the federal government had launched a massive response early.

And he continues to screw it up.

Lots of "could's. But, be specific. What timeline/response SHOULD he have followed? The list of people you respect, from you twitter/event 201 list. COULD they have taken this v-19 a little more seriously? What part of EVENT 201's seven recommendations do you like, RED from ? COme on, these are the people YOU respect. Their recommendations are to NOT shut the economy down. Are they stupid ?

He should have ramped up testing earlier - and used more than just the CDC to get things going (in late January). Screening in airports for all international arrivals, same time frame.

PPE supplies - start production earlier, use federal law to force earlier.

Do things correctly and you don't have the kind of shut downs we have now. That does not mean we escape unharmed, or that we would not have economic effects. And we still would be forced to practice SD, and modify behavior. But the current administration clusterf**k is actually holding us back. They have continually intervened with their own experts to minimize the problem.

Trump still keeps saying this will magically go away. Thinks daily testing in the WH is bad because one day someone passes a test and the next day they don't. Gotta be one of the densest statements made by any president EVER. But of course this is the guy who wanted to keep a cruise line offshore so the US "numbers" would not look bad.

And you continue to spout out about that no one could have done it correctly. Blame someone else when the problem mostly is sitting in the White House.

You keep screaming about BS.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:03 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:37 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 6:30 am For a guy who has tried to erase President Obama's legacy at every possible turn, and was cheered on by the r's, Trump reached a major milestone yesterday.

All those jobs President Obama created are gone.

Logical fallacy. Did you spend the night at Doc B's last night? That's the kind of silly argument he would project.

Youth: you don't understand how Democrats view Presidents.

First and foremost, Presidents to Democrats are establishment father figures (similar ironically to how Russians view their presidents; read this article and substitute 'Obama' for Putin and you'll understand: https://www.newsweek.com/2014/12/05/put ... 86464.html ). Naturally a Dem will say 'but Trump', failing to understand that 'Trump' (and the adulation of him) is less about a father figure and way more a metaphor for sticking it to the establishment; Trump is not the establishment by any stretch nor is he anyone's father figure.

Second and nearly as importantly, they assume that Presidents 'create' jobs, not the people who actually create jobs, entrepreneurs. This shows a fundamental disconnect with capitalism, and why (as I repeat too often) Democrat policies are the antithesis of what America is all about.

It's an odd thing to read anyone who thinks a President 'created' a job; its' amusing and scary at the same time.

The best thing a President can do for actual job creators is get out of the way. Too often, they don't.

Obama is responsible for all of 4 jobs in his entire life; those are the cooks and cleaners in his various houses. However, Obama is a net job destroyer, since he utilizes the services of taxpayer-paid (that is, it comes out of your pocket, not his) Secret Service employees numbering 12. Obama's post-presidency life has been about one thing: fattening his own bank account, and that's fair; really, who cares if people are dumb enough to pay to listen to him give a speech.

Meanwhile, CU77 thinks Obama created jobs.

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 11:35 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 9:03 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:37 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 6:30 am For a guy who has tried to erase President Obama's legacy at every possible turn, and was cheered on by the r's, Trump reached a major milestone yesterday.

All those jobs President Obama created are gone.

Logical fallacy. Did you spend the night at Doc B's last night? That's the kind of silly argument he would project.

Youth: you don't understand how Democrats view Presidents.

First and foremost, Presidents to Democrats are establishment father figures (similar ironically to how Russians view their presidents; read this article and substitute 'Obama' for Putin and you'll understand: https://www.newsweek.com/2014/12/05/put ... 86464.html ). Naturally a Dem will say 'but Trump', failing to understand that 'Trump' (and the adulation of him) is less about a father figure and way more a metaphor for sticking it to the establishment; Trump is not the establishment by any stretch nor is he anyone's father figure.

Second and nearly as importantly, they assume that Presidents 'create' jobs, not the people who actually create jobs, entrepreneurs. This shows a fundamental disconnect with capitalism, and why (as I repeat too often) Democrat policies are the antithesis of what America is all about.

It's an odd thing to read anyone who thinks a President 'created' a job; its' amusing and scary at the same time.

The best thing a President can do for actual job creators is get out of the way. Too often, they don't.

Obama is responsible for all of 4 jobs in his entire life; those are the cooks and cleaners in his various houses. However, Obama is a net job destroyer, since he utilizes the services of taxpayer-paid (that is, it comes out of your pocket, not his) Secret Service employees numbering 12. Obama's post-presidency life has been about one thing: fattening his own bank account, and that's fair; really, who cares if people are dumb enough to pay to listen to him give a speech.

Meanwhile, CU77 thinks Obama created jobs.

What nonsense. Trump has been trumpeting how many jobs he (and Ivanka!) have created for some time.

Most Ds would not say any president "created" the jobs - but helped to guide the conditions conducive to job creation. You really have a misinformed and warped opinion of those who are not in your tribe. I guess it is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance...

Here are CU77's words: "All those jobs President Obama created are gone."

Could you let me know how else to interpret that?

Also, anyone who supports Trump is in on the joke and laugh alongside him. What Democrats do is what CU77 did; they actually think he created jobs.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 11:00 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:57 am Sure.....I brought up tRump....only me

In your response to my post.....only you is right.

# Defending Trump was YOUR choice.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:08 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 11:00 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:57 am Sure.....I brought up tRump....only me

In your response to my post.....only you is right.

# Defending Trump was YOUR choice.

Tell me how you lying about me defending tRump is only me bringing his name up We should ALL be as HIGH

Why do you defend your taats Connecticutt Congress folks?